Kings lose out on Super 15

2009-11-11 19:46

Johannesburg - SANZAR has announced Melbourne as the 15th Super Rugby Team to join the competition when expansion occurs in 2011.

An Expert Determination Panel was asked by the SANZAR Executive Committee to decide on the location of the 15th Super Rugby team. The Experts were former Rugby World Cup-winning captain David Kirk and retired New Zealand High Court Judge, the Hon Barry Paterson QC.

The key reasons for the Experts selecting Melbourne over the other applicant, the Southern Kings from South Africa, were:

· The Experts commented that both applicants were able to point to excellent infrastructure support, and both provided sound business plans and financial forecasts, with the support of their National Unions, guaranteeing financial viability.

· The Southern Kings proposal was more advanced with regard to business and financial planning and organization structure and governance. The Southern Kings were also able to point to a strong rugby tradition, a large playing base and presented a stronger case than Melbourne as to their rugby readiness.

· These strengths of the Southern King’s Application did not, however, offset the benefits in geographical location and commercial value to SANZAR (both of which criteria the Experts were asked to place considerable weight on) that the Melbourne Application was able to deliver.

· The 15th Super Rugby team will play in the Australian Conference under the new Super Rugby competition format from 2011. This means they will play both home and away against the other four Australian Conference teams. As a result the Southern Kings would be required to make two crossings of the Indian Ocean in a season.

The local derby aspect of matches in Australia, an important issue for generating attendances and broadcasting value, would also have been diluted and it would not have been possible to schedule at least two matches in each country each weekend. In addition having the team resident in South Africa introduces additional costs to SANZAR of around NZ$720 000 per annum.

· The Melbourne Application provided considerably greater commercial benefit to SANZAR than the Southern Kings Application. Evidence was provided that revenue from the sale of broadcasting rights to Australasian broadcasters would be reduced by US$15-20m over the course of a five year agreement should the 15th team be resident in South Africa, with little or no commensurate rise in the value of South African broadcasting revenue.

© SA Rugby


  • NGS - 2009-11-11 19:53

    At least that gets us of the hook of having more teams at the bottom of the log. Let them have it I say!!

  • Tshepo - 2009-11-11 20:05


  • Leon - 2009-11-11 20:05

    Yeah once again it is all about the money, forget the fact that it is actually about rugby.

  • Gerhard - 2009-11-11 20:07

    Currently, these are the number of teams per country : SA 5, NZ 5, Aus 4. From 2011 : SA 5, NZ 5, Aus 5. If the Kings had gotten in : SA 6, NZ 5, Aus 4. Currently its not fair to Aus. From 2011 seems fair to all. Last option is unfair to both NZ and Aus.

  • Brett - 2009-11-11 20:23

    Are u guys that silly. Of course it is about money, they would have to be as silly as u if they were not thinking about money. All sport is based on money. And I am glad the Aussies got it. Watson and co are a bunch of thick idiots who just want to play the race card and use all funding for ep and not the rest of the provinces.

  • THINUS - 2009-11-11 20:35

    Aalthough I agree with the decision taken, it will probably be bad news for either the Cheetahs or the Lions,as SARU will ( or the goverment will force SARU to ) drop one of these teams from participating in the S15, thus making way for the KINGS....

  • anonymous - 2009-11-11 20:37

    I think Southern Kings were quite cheeky to apply. No matter how good their presentation was, it would be entirely unfair for South Africa to have a sixth team in the competition - and this from a franchise which did not even make the play-offs for the second division of the Currie Cup. They must try to get promotion within the local ranks - which seems quite impossible at present - and lift one of the other five teams. As far as I see it, we do not deserve another team in the Super Rugby competition. Why? Just to fill another position at the bottom of the log...?

  • Jannas - 2009-11-11 20:41

    If the Southern Kings start playing rugby instead of politics, they may have a future chance. Cheeky will probably dirty his pants in the media when he hears this.

  • Dup - 2009-11-11 21:01

    Correct decision - Eastern Province can't even put a decent curry cup side together, what makes you think they'll survive super rugby!?

  • Geejay - 2009-11-11 21:16

    Good decision. Now lets get the Elephants and Border back on top of their games and ensure they feature in the Currie cup.

  • ImpartialCanuck - 2009-11-11 21:17

    @Tshepo - welcome to the world of professionalism! If you don't like it, don't play!! Is also the reason your SA squad needs to be your best, as the global players are now professional and the quality is improving - pick on merit from the best of your provincial teams. Argentine is a great example of how a small country is producing tremendous growth in the sport..... Would be wonderful to make a living playing sport, whereas I sadly have to work to pay the bills - would prefer professional sport!!

  • CraigMac - 2009-11-11 21:32 take that Cheeky!!

  • trev2 - 2009-11-11 21:35

    It is the correct decision. SA always has a couple of teams at or near the bottom of the log. How can we then have another team in the competition?

  • Denése - SHARKS SUPPORTER - 2009-11-11 22:37

    Thank goodness Australia got it! I'm a private Maths teacher. It makes mathematical sense to have 5 each. If someone had a decent 6th rugby team to put forward ( SA or NZ ) it may have made sense to do that. Why put a sixth team from SA which couldn't get into !st division rugby nevermind Premier Division!? --- and which has to be linked to Aus anyway.

  • Rudi - 2009-11-11 22:50

    @Tshepo & Leon: You are missing the point. Playing rugby is no longer firstly a sport, it is a profession before it is a sport. Although I cannot stand the arrogance of the Aussies, I cannot see anything wrong with the reasons provided for the choice that has been made.

  • Cheeky - 2009-11-11 22:56

    Absolutely the correct decision. SA don’t deserve another franchise in the S14.Although it was NZ people making the decision Cheeky will now,again,jump on SARU and the whites to make a noise. The sooner Cheeky and other politicians accept that the rest of the world doesn’t listen to their tantrums about racism etc the better. The rest of the world evaluate things on merit and make decisions on facts and what and how they believe the best is. SARU did make a huge mistake not to include the Spears in the CCup Premier division to try and uplift their game. What do they want to do at the end of 2010 to decide who will be the 5 teams from SA in the 2011 S15? Even if 1 of the SA teams end up at no 14 at the end of 2010(which happens almost every year) on what grounds will SARU decide that the Spears will be a better prospect for the next year? Watson shouts local black talent for the last 2 years BUT where are this talent? They buying players in and use guys like De Wet Barry. The Spears is just another political game and the “chiefs in charge” is hoping to make a few quick and easy dollars.

  • AussieBhoy from Melbourne - 2009-11-11 23:59

    Good decision..

  • michael - 2009-11-12 01:16

    I'm glad SA didn't get it, however it was a decision between 2 rubbish options, Australia don't have the depth to field another team, this team will be mostly NZ, SA and islanders based in melbourne...and then eventually playing for australia...

  • Neville Howard - 2009-11-12 07:01

    go Melbourne Rebels!! Looking forward to the games!

  • kurt - 2009-11-12 08:09

    good end of the pathetic lions in comes the kings

  • Dude - 2009-11-12 08:12

    I am somewhat dissapointed (That we lost out against the Ausies, cant stand them) and secondly also happy we didnt get it. It would always come down to broadcasting rights as it generates more cash than attendance. EP now kick your development into gear get into the premier division and do it the right way. Nothing inn life is for free we cant just get thing cause sshame we are South Africa and previously dissadvanced - work now

  • junsau - 2009-11-12 10:20

    no surprises there.

  • Bloues - 2009-11-12 12:45

    Kick the Sharks (chokers) out en give the Kings a chance!

  • JasonG - 2009-11-12 13:40

    Best way to do it: every year take the top 5 performing teams from the previous years Currie Cup for the Super 15! .... Job done.

  • scipio - 2009-11-12 13:53

    hahaha @ dude. You summed it up nicely... That's the story of our country mate.

  • Sharkie - 2009-11-12 20:47

    @ Bloues and all other idiots who agree with him. Just because the sharks work hard all season and choke at the end doesn't mean they should be thrown out. that's such a stupid arguement. It's like me saying that the bulls have won super 14 too many times i think they should be chucked out to give other teams a chance. Can't belive i'm actually replying to someone with such pathetic opinions. obviosly you're scared that the sharks might not choke next time and beat you!

  • The Lion from Potch - 2009-11-13 16:21

    T G, what does the Kings have to offer? ok, other than political back-up? Nothing! If the Kings wants to be in the BIG leage, they must first be big in the Vodacom cup and the Currie Cup, isn't that fair? Go through yhe ranks and earn your place!

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