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Dalglish: We're not racists

2012-01-09 22:25

London - Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish insisted on Monday that it is "utterly rubbish" to suggest that defending Luis Suarez against racism accusations showed the club is not interested in fighting racism.

The Uruguay striker is serving an eight-match ban for repeatedly racially abusing Patrice Evra during a match and has been criticised for failing to apologise to the Manchester United defender.

Liverpool were condemned by anti-racism groups for resolutely backing Suarez and allowing the squad and Dalglish to wear T-shirts featuring Suarez's picture in a show of solidarity ahead of a match.

After facing weeks of criticism, Dalglish has issued a statement on the club website to say that the Reds "don't want racism anywhere near football."

"Over the past few weeks there has been a perception that the football club isn't doing what it should be doing (to fight racism), but I don't think the football club would ever go down that road," Dalglish said. "We will always support the official campaigns related to racism. Obviously there was a big issue with Luis.

"The players showed support for Luis which was fantastic, but then some people interpreted that wrongly as the players saying they're not interested in the fight against racism. That is totally and utterly rubbish."

Liverpool's attempts to move on from the Suarez case have been hampered by another racism investigation involving the club.

Oldham defender Tom Adeyemi was reduced to tears by insults from Liverpool fans during Friday's 5-1 loss at Anfield in the FA Cup and had to be comforted by team-mates and opposing players.

Police have arrested a 20-year-old man from the Liverpool area on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence. He was released on police bail on Sunday pending further inquiries.

"The person who shouted whatever he shouted at Tom that upset him, if we can help the police find out who it is and he gets charged, then whatever we can do to make the punishment as severe as it could be will be done," Dalglish said.

A year after returning to the manager's job after 20 years, Dalglish insisted that Liverpool would not be one of the world's most popular clubs if it had failed to help combat racism.

"I can guarantee to the supporters out there that there is no way I would have come back to this football club if I thought it was in any way, shape or form racist or discriminatory," the 60-year-old Scot said. "I wouldn't be here."

Preparations have already begun at Liverpool for the first visit of United since Suarez's confrontation with Evra in October during a Premier League match.

The northwest rivals were drawn together on Sunday to meet in the fourth round of the FA Cup on the weekend of January 28 and 29.

"There were definitely a few raised eyebrows from everyone after that draw," Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre said Monday. "With all that's gone on, people will talk about it and talk about it but I think the most important thing for us is to make sure that we make it a great day and a great game.

"We need to make sure that we all work together to make sure that everybody concentrates on the excitement of the football and the FA Cup and not on anything else."

AP

Comments
  • Gunner - 2012-01-10 07:34

    The problem is that Dalglish and his team were backing Suarez after his racist incident on the pitch. What do you expect the rest of clowns that support them to do???.....This was an ideal opportunity for Dalglish and team management to stamp it out....

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 09:03

      Suarez was not found guilty - he was found "PROBABLY GUILTY" - they chose Evra of all people as the more credible witness. If this was one of your club's players, being charged for something he didn't know would be a problem at the time, would you not support him ?

  • Sagren - 2012-01-10 08:06

    Kenny Daglish is one off the biggest IDIOTs footbal management has ever seen - he is goinf to mess Liverpool up even more than Souness. Did he honestly think that his stupid actions would not rub off on the racists in Liverpool and elsewhere. The man is in denial and now he has taken the "idiot tag" away from Sebb Blatter. Way to go King Kenny .... All Haill King Kenny ...Lord of the Idiots and mentor to every racist and biggot in the world.

      Brett - 2012-01-10 08:27

      We know that not everything has been published in the FA's report. The first line in their own report states that the FA does not believe Suarez to be a racist. His grandfather is black for goodness sakes. An expert in the Spanish of South Americas has confirmed that the word he used ONCE by Suarez's own admission is not a racist term in Uruguay. Evra is the one saying he repeatedly used the word. Evra, by the way, has cried wolf twice before about racist remarks and the cases were thrown out. I know Luis is no angel, but surely you would be reluctant to take his word for it?? There are no first hand witnesses. Evra was speaking Spanish to Suarez. Evra then tells the hearing what Suarez said to him. Unfortunately for him, the Spanish expert confirms that a Uruguayan would not say those exact words because their dialect is different. Of course, nothing is made of Evra saying, "Don't touch me, you South American". THat can just as easily be construed as racism. Don't get me wrong, Luis should've been more aware of what words are not acceptable. Racism is not acceptable. I just think that this whole fiasco is a sham because Evra has not been handed the same charge. Liverpool were also not allowed to appeal the verdict, only the sentence. Smacks of a kangaroo court. And you may laugh because Liverpool are getting kicked in the teeth...but it could just as easily have been YOUR club.

      Deon - 2012-01-10 08:59

      When exactly did Evra cry wolf before. And actually the Linguistic Experts found Saurez Guilty of using the word 7 times in the space of 2 minutes, hence why he was handed an 8 game suspension.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 09:06

      Sagren you sound like a manc "fan" who started watching football yesterday - IF you actually READ the statement before commenting, you will see that he is saying that LFC DO NOT condone racism & any individual, IF found guilty of it, will be severely dealt with LONG LIVE THE KING !

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 09:09

      well said Brett - infact, Evra started the whole argument by saying "your sister's p%^&y", and get's away with it completely because he said he didn't actually realise that's what it meant (yeah right !) Suarez admits he says something that is common where he comes from, and says he didn't realise it was an issue, but then gets severely charged ! Talk about double standards ...

      Deon - 2012-01-10 09:43

      @aadil.esack Evra i'm sure isn't completely innocent but neither is Suarez. It doesn't matter whether it's common in Uruaguay, he isn't in Uruaguay plain and simple. Nobody said he was racist, he simply made reference to Evra's colour in an attempt to wind him up. We can argue about Evra's statement and it's literal translation but whats the Literal translation of Suarez's comment "Negro". Very much the same as that god awful afrikaans saying Hout kop (Wood head), The problem now is LFC could ban a supporter for calling someone a black b8stard but Suarez gets the full support when saying I "don't talk to blacks" or "come on hit me blackie, come on blackie etc etc" which is basically the same. This whole situation by this idiotic fan has put LFC in a horrible situation.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 10:07

      the difference being that to Suarez, what he said was not said in a negative way, but as a term of reference, and Evra MEANT the horrible things he said. As for the supporter, IF he is found genuinely guilty, i would ban him for life if it were me

  • Lennon Chenga - 2012-01-10 09:00

    Brett has highlighted a couple of facts I was not aware of. It always helps to justify your actions, something that Kenny Dalglish should have done before seeming to support his player without reason. Racism is a sensitive matter that if not handled as such can be blown out of proportion. I am an Arsenal fan but I feel it's a shame that a club like Liverpool would have a manager who would handle a situation like this so recklessly. I can now understand Kenny's support for his player after the points that Brett raised, but the question is, how many blindly supported Suarez without knowing these facts? Is this not where the problem and future problems are going to come from?

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 09:26

      I can't speak for ALL Reds, but the majority of us would have never supported him until we knew the facts first, whether he is our player or not. But now, given the "facts", millions of Reds are 110% behind him ! Kenny chatted to Luis as soon as he heard he was accused, and has stood by him since, which we (majority) are also more than happy with

      Deon - 2012-01-10 09:30

      You guys also stood behind your fan Michael Shields ( And worn T-Shirts to get him freed) after he was convicted for attempted murder after servely beating up and Turkish fan and was sentenced to 15 yrs. Were you also 110% behind him aswell,

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 10:11

      That kid spent a few years behind bars for nothing, as he was granted a full pardon & released was he not ? Guess we'll never know what actually happenned, but as Kenny said in the full statement, "For us, the football club is more important than any one individual, whether that person be a supporter, a player or the owner. It's not about the individual, it's about the football club and we should be very proud of this football club"

      Deon - 2012-01-10 10:39

      Kenny is dead right, aadil.esack. LFC is a club that has a rich history and these recent events haven't done the club any favours and it's disappointing. Suarez for me should of used his common sense by not using those words, Don't get me started on that fan, he was just stupid. Yes Michael Shields was given a royal pardon but because of time already served and the massive finacial contributions he is making to the victim. No different to Bees Roux.

  • aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 09:00

    well said Kenny - people are too quick too comment without reading ALL the facts first. e.g. the FA's 115 page document may be flawed, but it starts with saying that Luis IS NOT a racist. Evra himself said that Luis is NOT a racist. The guy, in gamesmanship, said something he didn't know was wrong, and got severely punished - no warning, nothing During those exchanges, which the report says Evra STARTED, Evra was pretty disgraceful himself, but faces NO punishment ? The idiot fan on friday night does not reflect the opinions of MILLIONS of us Reds across the globe either, and as Kenny said, IF he is guilty, "then whatever we can do to make the punishment as severe as it could be will be done". NO ONE will condone racism at LFC, and wrong is wrong, and should be punished But we know the truth, and no matter what spin the anti-scouse media try to put on it, we will stand by LFC, the King & Luis - that is what YNWA is all about !

      Deon - 2012-01-10 09:09

      I agree with you on certain things Aadil.esack but have your read the report regarding Evra's comments? Where Suarez admitts he never heard Evra's comment, so then how can he be quilty for starting. The FA also acknowledge that suarez deliberly kick Evra but haven't charged him for that either.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 09:28

      i've read all the interesting parts Deon, and I stand by what I said, MANY flaws in it. Suarez knew something "aggressive" was said, but didn't known what - Evra admits he started it, so why no punishment ? I agree Suarez should have got a yellow for the kick, but isn't that what the ref is there for ?

      Deon - 2012-01-10 09:48

      While there isn't any rule that says one can't say offensive things to other players, but it does say that one is not allowed to make reference to ones culture and race. Anybody who has ever played the game, swears and calls people names but racial contetations will always spark issues more than any other words or statements.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 10:13

      so Evra said in the very same incident "don't touch me you South American" - is that not discrimination as well ? Should he not be charged ?

      Deon - 2012-01-10 10:18

      Ha ha ha ha, How is that racist or even remotely offensive.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 10:30

      YOU just said that reference to culture or color is not allowed ...

      Deon - 2012-01-10 10:51

      @Aadil.esack maybe your right, but Would you be offended if someone call you South African?

      Byron - 2012-01-11 18:43

      @aadil.esack whatever you say in defence of Suarez is totally a biased opinion in favour of the club you support. To say you can be nuetral in this case is ridiculous. The report is not a FA document is an investigation by an independent report that included video and interviews with players from both sides including Kuyt. It is a comprehensive report that if challenged will only lead to failure and Liverpool know that.

  • Brett - 2012-01-10 10:30

    @Deon You just said in your previous post: it does say that one is not allowed to make reference to ones culture and race. I really do believe it falls under culture and race. Please understand. Both players are wrong...whether it be through malice or ignorance. Both should have been reprimanded. It's consistency that is the issue at hand...for me at least

  • aadil.esack - 2012-01-10 10:33

    Please look at table 9 in this report - notice that LFC had ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NIKS arrests for racism last season, whereas the likes of Man Utd & Chelsea had TWO arrests each - how come it's only news now that one idiot on the Kop "apparently" did it ? http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/football-arrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary Wake up mense ...

      Deon - 2012-01-10 10:44

      Simply came down to timing. I never said other clubs were innocent, and any fans that stoops that low doesn't deserve to be at the ground, be it Anfield, Old Trafford, Stamford bridge etc. Football doesn't need it.

  • nhlanhla.nyembe - 2012-01-10 21:02

    OK, someone please explain to me how this is not racist. The FA's case, in short, was as follows: In the goalmouth, Evra and Suarez spoke to each other in Spanish. Evra asked Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the foul five minutes previously. Suarez replied; "Because you are black". Evra; “say it to me again, I’m going to punch you”. Suarez;"I don't speak to blacks". Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Suarez. Suarez; "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie". As Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Evra's arm, gesturing at his skin. Kuyt then intervened. I'm confused how someone can claim this is not racist, please help me out resident experts on race relations.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-11 09:30

      Because Evra didn't "ask" - he FIRST said to Suarez "your sister's pu$%y", to which Suarez asked "why, negrito ?" Negrito is not a racist term in spanish, which they were speaking in. The fact is all this is based on one man's word over another's, and we will never know the entire truth. Suarez has been banned & fined while Evra has walked away free. Nothing anyone can do about it now, unless Suarez decided to take Evra to court & sue him for defamation of character. What Kenny is saying is that no matter what ONE individual may do, be it a player, supporter or owner, it does NOT reflect the views of LFC

      Deon - 2012-01-11 09:44

      @aadil.esack, Still find it funny that you take the Literal translation for Evra's comment (Which Suarez never Heard) nut you don't take the literal translation for Suarez comment.

      nhlanhla.nyembe - 2012-01-11 11:04

      aadil, I am not going to enter into this he said, she said debate or that Suarez did not hear the first statement, not is my question. My question to you an everyone else is, given the exchange I posted how can you say the exchange was not racist? Even if the use of the word "negro" was a reference to race and not a racial slur does the exchange above not qualify as an attack on Evra based on his race which by definition is racism?

      nhlanhla.nyembe - 2012-01-11 11:14

      Had a quick look at your profile Aadil, clearly you are a big fan of Liverpool. I’d like to know though do you put your love for the club before humanity? Is support for club and an individual more important to you that people being treated with dignity and respect?

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-11 11:29

      Suarez admits he said it, but in a non-racial way. Evra also said "don't touch me you South American", so could Luis not also take that as an attack ? It's kinda like when Juju referred to South African "indians" as "coolies" - he said it's the word used to refer to "indians" in his native tongue, and not racial, no ? Double edged sword I guess. Point is, why was only one person punished when both were "guilty" of using apparent abusive language ? Why is the media picking on LFC, who had NO racial incidents at all last season, when other prominent clubs had fans arrested for racist behavior ? We can all argue about this until we are blue in the face, but what's good for the goose should be good for the gander ....

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-11 11:42

      by the way dude, this has NOTHING to do with the fact that I am a supporter of LFC - even if this was a Utd or Everton player, i honestly would have felt the same way. But the media are unjustly having a field day against my beloved club, and that makes me a bit more angry I suppose. If Luis, or even our beloved Stevie G was clearly wrong in any incident, I GLADLY would accept the punishment, but there is too much bias & questions marks in this case in my opinion I come from a poor backround, but in March 2011 I finally achieved my dream of being at Anfield & got to watch us play (and beat) Utd, our lifelong enemies. But the sweetest part of the trip was how AWESOME I found the city & people of Liverpool to be - I was honestly a bit wary of how I would be seen by the local "scouser's", as I am a person of color, on all the stories over the years about how "rof" scouser's were, especially from my Manc friends & family had me slightly nervous. I can honestly say that after home, which is Jozi, I have never been to a place where I have felt more welcomed & at home. I even said to my wife when I came back that if things ever went real bad here & we were forced to move, we should consider it, but "no go", as you see, she is a die-hard Manc. So yes, I am biased, but not blind

      nhlanhla.nyembe - 2012-01-11 11:46

      You are using the argument why should Malema be punished when most of the leadership is corrupt; the point is not how is corrupt and how isn't but rather what kind of behaviour to you want to encourage and what should be punishable. I have little interest in defending Evra, my focus is on the racist allegations for I believe no amount of provocation or lack thereof justifies racism. My question to you is do the comments I posted not qualify as a racist attack inspite of what may or may not have been said? Should we not treat this exchange on its merits and come up with a conclusion that makes sense? What exactly does "I don't speak blacks" mean if not to demean an entire race. Do you think he would have said, "I don't speak to whites" had he been confronted by a white player? How can you sit there and defend if not justify racism aadil? Are we blacks that inconsequential to your life you couldn't be moved by racism?

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-11 12:21

      you expect me to condemn someone even though he admitted to saying something in a non demeaning way ? read again, there are too much flaws in the report with the fa's so called "evidence". Evra got to give statements 3 times, and Suarez only once - the fa chose Evra's side of the story, and Luis was punished. Nothing any of us can do. But like Tupac said, "only God can judge me", and since I wasn't there I'm not going to label Luis a "racist" or Evra a "liar" - what I'm saying is that based on their own report, Evra should be punished as well. Also, the media should be fair, but we know that won't happen As for the second part of your statement - you don't know me so how the hell can you make assumptions like that ? I remember my elder siblings being arrested when I was a child for supporting the then banned ANC. My late Dad was also involved in many anti-racial projects in the community, long before it was fashionable to do so. My best mate's Mum was part of the ANC before you were probably born & only retired recently. I was brought up in town, opposite the taxi rank in Selby, and most of the people I grew up with were "black". I was the one driving around Tembelihle late at night daily to drop off my basketball team mates in the 90's, even though they themselves told me I was at risk. You don't know JACK about me, so don't assume !

      nhlanhla.nyembe - 2012-01-11 12:53

      It was not an assumption, it was a question hence the question mark at the end. I am glad your family has a long history fighting racism but I think you’ll do well to condemn an obvious racist act. Try as you may to justify your position it still does not change the fact that the exchange posted was indeed racist, if you don’t understand that then you have no legitimate claim of doing everything you can to stamp out racism. You see aadil, had Liverpool come out and said this incident was unfortunate perhaps blown out of proportion but still unfortunate and they will try everything in their power to ensure it does not happen again I would have been happy; the fans would have got the message. But by wearing those t-shirts and showing blind loyalty to a Suarez whom we both know is guilty as charged a wrong message was sent out to the fans. Liverpool cannot claim to be surprised by the subsequent racial taunts. In total there are three cases of racism against the team in a space of a shot period prompting government to want to have a closer look at what is happening in the club. I am not going to tell you how to react or behave but I would have hoped we all place principle above all else, that is all I can say to you beyond that it is up to you how you accept my statement. Have a good day kind sir.

      aadil.esack - 2012-01-11 13:22

      if you read my comments on this article, you will see i said many times that I will gladly condemn anyone if they are PROVEN wrong. One man's word over another's is not proof in my books. Read this article again, it sums things up perfectly I think. We are saying we will not condone racism, and anyone, IF they are found guilty, will receive severe punishment. That is all, thank you, and to you as well

  • Paul - 2012-01-11 09:50

    Nobody should comment on this issue if they haven't read the 115 page report. I read it and was shocked to see the 'evidence' which was used against Suarez. The report also clearly states that Suarez was not found to be racist.

  • Christian - 2012-01-11 23:59

    Suarez admitted to calling Evra a "negrito" which can be an insult or a term of endearment. He said it was the latter. I have been living in South America for more than a decade and one would never call anyone outside of one's family or one's best friend , or in my case my cat that. He meant it as an insult and a serious one at that. The suspension was a slap on the wrist and should have been more severe.

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