Khune: Bafana were ignorant

2011-10-10 11:29

Johannesburg - Itumeleng Khune admits Bafana Bafana were blindsided by ignorance after failing to qualify for AFCON 2012 at the weekend.

Bafana, who are appealing their elimination with CAF, thought they were in next year's showpiece after drawing 0-0 with Sierra Leone on Saturday night.

The result left them, Niger and the Leone Stars locked on eight points in Group G, with Bafana enjoying a superior goal difference - helped largely by Egypt's 3-0 thrashing of Mena on the same night.

Wild celebrations immediately followed the final whistle at Mbombela Stadium before CAF revealed Mena were the group winners - as per the regulations - as they enjoyed a better head-to-head ratio against their rivals.

Khune is still battling to reconcile the disappointment and incorrectly asserts the rules were changed after Saturday's clash.

"The truth is we didn't know anything about this rule," he said in the Cape Times.

"It's an unfair rule. We fought so hard to be top of the group, and then when we checked afterwards we were indeed top. We thought we had succeeded in making the nation proud.

"Look at where we come from throughout all these qualifiers. How can they (CAF) just change the rules at the end of the game? If we had been told about this rule before the game, we surely would have had a different approach."

The Kaizer Chiefs goalkeeper was accused of time-wasting in the dying stages of the encounter after repeatedly requesting medical attention.


  • Leviathan - 2011-10-10 11:38

    even though i dont like the rule. rules r rules!u r a football player and need 2 know wat needs 2 b done. Plus u should apologize 4 ur terrible behavior on saturday

      DoktaPhill - 2011-10-11 14:11

      Agreed Leviathan. Khune's behavior was SHOCKING and he should be banned (for at least 3 games). And if SAFA won't do it, FIFA should. "...blindsided by ignorance..." - Yeah, that about sums it up!!! On a slightly different note: - Although he has been the number one Keeper for some time now, Khune has had a bad start to the Season, and the "In-Form" Keeper, Wayne Sandilands, sat looking on in Horror - knowing his beliefs! Khune needs to wake up, stop talking bull and get his act together.

  • Cullen - 2011-10-10 11:40

    your time delaying tactics cost us a spot on AFCON you chop

      LiciousDee - 2011-10-10 14:02

      @Cullen I'm sorry to burst your bubble but even if the referee gave us another 2 days extra time bafana bafana still wouldn't have scored.

      Ephraim Bogopa - 2011-10-10 14:04

      the time khune was delaying, it was 89 minutes (few minutes left). Then how can we expect our strikers to score in 4-5 minutes, while they failed in 85+minutes? Khune is not guilty, he saved a dangerous ball of the day

      DoktaPhill - 2011-10-11 15:09

      OK Ephraim, to help clear it up "his time delaying tactics (and bad attitude), CONTRIBUTED to us losing a spot at AFCON". Not much better is it and he is still a CHOP. We could score a Goal in the last minute, remember Egypt at Home at Ellis Park. But I agree, after the first half, which was at least a little bit up tempo and enterprising, there seemed very little Motivation or Will to score!!! What happened (at half time)? Was this under instruction from Management or Couching staff? Was it just the Player them selves? Was this some bad Intel from certain (SABC) journalists? Pitso, to his credit, at least look animated enough in trying to get his team to score! Was it as case of you can take a horse to water...? Whoever was responsible for this dismal turn of events, individually or collectively, should be held accountable.

  • Thought - 2011-10-10 11:42

    The rule was applicable for quite some tim now. SAFA administrators shoul've been aware of all the rules and what was required of us to qualify. sad indeed.

      clark - 2011-10-10 14:38

      - Come on - All SAFA administrators worry about is their pay cheques. Symptomatic of the mess this country is in.

      DoktaPhill - 2011-10-11 15:20

      Thought - you are quite correct. Sports Journalist and Author, Neal Collins, who was on "Sunrise" on Etv the Monday Morning after SA's black sporting weekend, had phoned SABC, et al, and offered to explain to them and their viewers (and SAFA) the permutations of the "Dead-Heat-Mini-League" elimination system (14.1). Why it was introduced sometime ago and why it was so important, BEFORE the Game even took place later on the weekend - To which, of course, He got no response. Go to his Link below, On why we failed to qualify for AFCON 2013? Worth a read, anyway.

  • nosiphom - 2011-10-10 11:43

    There is only one rule to always remember - bang in the goals and let the officials worry about the rules ! As a goalkeepr, ensure no goals are scored against you. If you worry about competition rules, you are confused.

  • GHT - 2011-10-10 11:52

    Khune, you went from being 1 of my favourite players to being 1 of my least favourite. Almost in the same group as a certain Suarez. Your actions were disgraceful.

  • matubeng - 2011-10-10 11:52

    Game is about winning boy, not what you do with VV at Chiefs. Draws are for the weak minded men like you and Bafana Bafana. Your coach Pitos, should have known better.

      Spade - 2011-10-10 13:04

      Agreed. Playing for a draw should never have been the goal. I think it is a reflection on how we do things in this country - mediocre has become good enough!

      geewiz - 2011-10-10 18:21

      Pitso knew they didn't make it. He has stated from the day the lost to Niger that winning their last game was the only way they would qualify. Even when he was interviewed, he knew they fell short, although the so-called pundits were celebrating like lunatics. Mission: win. They drew. Mission failed. Tough!

  • Jon JJ - 2011-10-10 11:54

    Banana Banana - what a bunch of losers!!

      samaritan - 2011-10-10 13:19

      johannes jacobus,why don't you suck a egg

  • MAXIMUS - 2011-10-10 11:58

    Is this guy stupid? When did CAF change the rules? I really hate it when people rush to point fingers before doing some introspection. Can Bafana really say they deserved to go to AFCON after that dismal display, which we have now become accustomed to each time they take to the field. I for one have watched every Bafana game in the last few years and I cannot remember a performance that left with a smile on my face. If you are thinking about Guatemala game please dont waste my time and yours by replying to this comment.

      AjAxxxx - 2011-10-10 14:38

      France in the world cup?

      Jaco - 2011-10-10 18:31

      Yes, this guy is stupid.

  • jojo - 2011-10-10 12:01

    You Guys should quit soccer and take on fishing

      PSquare - 2011-10-10 12:50

      or dancing...that was the only highlight of the afternoon....LOL

  • fireman - 2011-10-10 12:11

    Yet another South African embarressment.........we are rapidly becoming the laughing stock of the world. Even in something so simple as football.

      King Solomon - 2011-10-10 13:49

      We are not becoming, we are.

  • Flynn - 2011-10-10 12:18

    Soccer is a global sport & FIFA should have ensured that all the rules for all the organizations in the world is the same, that is what the ruling body is there for. By right Bafana Bafana should have went through seeing that they had a better goal difference than Niger & SL but if thats CAF's rules, SAFA should abide by them and go back to the drawing board. On that note maybe if Khune concentrated on winning the game rather than wasting time - the outcome might have been different. SA is the only team in the world that has prepared to fail to progress into the next round of a tournament, hell they were so happy that they even danced to their fans, lol

      BK Ramaretlwa - 2011-10-10 13:34

      Most Nations around the world are members of the United Nations yet have different laws governing their states, don't you see similarities here? Just saying...

  • leonard.w.gray - 2011-10-10 12:20

    what a clown

  • Craig - 2011-10-10 12:21

    Sad Sad'ld think that after the Proteas Duckworth Lewis disaster all those years ago, that SA sport administrators and national set up's would have a clear view before each game of what is required. Apart from the fact that as the NATIONAL team, you should ALWAYS be playing for a win. I can't believe the diatribe coming out of these players and the management about late rule changes and not knowing what was required. There is only one rule...PLAY FOR THE WIN...EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!

  • AthosZA - 2011-10-10 12:22

    You should have played for a win, not for a draw. What type of team aims to draw the match to go through. Worst tactic ever!

  • Terence - 2011-10-10 12:23

    With a population the size of SA`s and the infrastructure etc that we have we should be so far in front of the other countries in our Group that this rule would not even matter. What kind of management have we got that they don`t even know the rules!! Get some educated people with a decent work ethic and you might have a chance of returning to the top of the pile in Africa.

  • renny.ashley - 2011-10-10 12:24

    Khune don't embarass us any further. Who changed the rules at the end of the game? These rules have been there ever since. Do you remember what happened in AFCON 2006? Nigeria failed to qualify because of the same criteria used, Angola went through instaed. Blame your officials to read between the lined when it comes to competition rules. You're embarrassing us by saying you where ignorant about the rule. South Africa is the only country in the world that embraces ignorance as defence.

  • OLIBO - 2011-10-10 12:25

    We have Konti "away goal rule" Kubheka, and now we have added Pitso "qualifying rule" Mosemane. Any coach who cannot understand the rules of a continental football competition and opt to play for a draw does not deserve to take Bafana Bafana to the Worl Cup in Brazil. Thanks Pitso - but your time is up!

  • Robert Cerff - 2011-10-10 12:28

    Lets face it... it does seem bizarre that any team can top a group and still not qualify. That said, if you win your games you don't need to worry about these things. When said and done however, I hope some sort of action is taken against Khune for those antics! Shocking really.

  • Sandy - 2011-10-10 12:29

    Maybe if the team played to win there would be something to complain about. Drawing on home soil to "minnows" is not acceptable !

  • McDaNife - 2011-10-10 12:31

    You idiot rules dont change during a game, what kind of excuse is this. You are one of the causes of Bafana bafana not making it because of your time wasting tactics. But I will admire one thing, you dances are better than your goalkeeping and so are are your team mates.

  • Mr.S - 2011-10-10 12:32

    This confirms what the opposition coach said after the game" the hosts new about the other results and set back for a piont". which makes this loss directly related to Pitso's actions. In my view Pitso failled us and he must take full responsibity and go back to school(assistant coach) he did his apprenticeship and this was a trade test and he failled.I fully agree that we should promote our own and give them an oppotunity to show case what they are capable of, but this is pure stupidity and should not be tolerated.we must stop waisting money and time on this apeal and accept our failer and move on. I propose that Shakes must come back.

  • Marx - 2011-10-10 12:40

    He is claiming that they fought hard to be on top or they pretended hard? Now it's a good lesson learned, now Khune must be suspended for atleast 3 months for bad sportmanship, that was being snobbish.

  • Nathan Blows - 2011-10-10 12:42

    No Khune. Bafana weren't ignorant, they were arrogant.

      BJ - 2011-10-11 09:07

      can't you be both?

  • mbulelo - 2011-10-10 12:44

    the caf excetive have their political agenda in this regard which might involve safa officials as it was the case with the broadcast of bafana games

      Jaco - 2011-10-10 18:40

      Eish Mbulelo ... our management (& players) not reading the rulebook becomes "the caf executive"s political agenda...? Hau!

  • Twich - 2011-10-10 12:46

    It seems a culture is developing in sport in South Africa, if we can draw and go through thats fine, rather than let us dominate and stamp our dominance on others by having a winning philosophy. This philosophy needs to be bred into our players, everttime we pull on a South African national team shirt we are in it to win it and not play on tactics of let us just get a draw. So the tactic of holding back on attack and putting on a more defence backfired in our faces, so no ignornace but rather lack of wanting to win.

  • MadMax - 2011-10-10 12:52

    If you win the games you don't need to worry about these rules do you??? I mean seriously, drawing to a much lower ranked team than you? come on.

      KFACTOR - 2011-10-10 15:48

      at home nogal

  • Musa Ngubane - 2011-10-10 12:53

    It is unfair to blame the players for this, or Khune in particular. All our players and us as fans, did not know about this rule. Players would have come up with a different plan should they have been told before the game about this rule. We all knew that we would top the group with a better goal difference and qualify automatically. Whether SAFA was suppossed to know or not, but it is harsh to blame the players for something they were not aware of. We all celebrated at the end of the match, even in the news night bulletins it was written "Bafana qualifies for AFCON", even Sunday newspapers had similar headlines. Players were confused when told about these rules, the same way we were confused.

      Real_Issue - 2011-10-10 13:47

      @Musa Nugubane: You will be confused if if you don't read well to understand rule especially by leaders/captain/managers. Also why should you even think of a draw to qualify instead of a win. That is bad attitude which you must not train your children to adapt. I like Germans attitude bcos they will score you 101 gaols even if you bring your wives to represent you in any competition.

      LiciousDee - 2011-10-10 14:22

      they should have gone in that soccer field with the intent to score goals not to flippen draw Musa...their negetive attitude cost us and its not only this game, all the games that bafana bafana plays are such a bore, they go in there with zilch positiveness.....I'm sorry but we blame them for not doing their best, the coach for having the mentality that he had, he put defenders instead of strikers because he thought we didn't need a goal.

      Jaco - 2011-10-10 18:44

      They did not know about the rule because nobody did their job and bothered to READ THE RULEBOOK, Musa! But yeah, blame blame blame everybody... it's da culture.

  • Bokbaard - 2011-10-10 12:59

    Sorry Khune, but if you've won only two from six games you can neither complain about not qualifying nor claim that "we fought so hard".

  • viman - 2011-10-10 13:01

    Bafana is a waste of taxpayers money, they must play to win not play 2 waste time like what they have done on Saturday "to hell with this micky mouse bafana"

  • Mister - 2011-10-10 13:10

    Come on seriously man!!!! In ANY sport/game any team must PLAY TO WIN. Blaming a rule book is no excuse... SAFA Needs to get itself together. The like of Ivory Coast. Ghana etc are way ahead of us in football and administration. Get rid of Pitso now and give the job to Gavin Hunt, Gordon Igesund or Shakes Mashaba. This is an absolute disgrace!!!

  • lynchy27 - 2011-10-10 13:16

    "we surely would have had a different approach." Whatever!

  • amaru shakur - 2011-10-10 13:22

    The same rule applies in La Liga. Head to Head instead of goal difference. Only a stupid team plays for a draw while at home. Suckers!!!

  • malemaforever - 2011-10-10 13:22

    Khune you deserve this. Your unprofessional tactics cost Bafana a place in the AFCON. How can you say you are a professional player when you are not update with regard to the rules of the game. I think SAFA must open an academy to educate the players on the rules of this game.

  • Thabani - 2011-10-10 13:24

    Sorry Khune. You are a soccer player, yet you don't understand the rules. This rule was put in place some years back. If you remember in 2006 world cup, Angola went to the world cup ahead of Nigeria because of that same rule and Nigeria never complained. Check that group again. Angola had a goal difference of +6 yet Nigeria had a goal difference of +14. The head to head results were as follows between the concerned teams.Angola 1-0 Nigeria and Nigeria 1-1 Angola. Angola had 4 pts while Nigeria had 1. It didn't matter that nigeria had a better goal difference by far. That the rule Khume, Pitso, Nematandani and other. Group 4 Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Angola 10 6 3 1 12 6 +6 21 Nigeria 10 6 3 1 21 7 +14 21 Zimbabwe 10 4 3 3 13 14 -1 15 Gabon 10 2 4 4 11 13 -2 10 Algeria 10 1 5 4 8 15 -7 8 Rwanda 10 1 2 7 6 16 -10 5 Good luck SAFA for you appeal, but you won't win this case. Also note that the same rule is applied for the Euro 2012 as well. So we can't cry now.

  • Proudly South African - 2011-10-10 13:28

    Everything about Bafana Bafana is a joke. What an embarrassment. Probably a direct reflection on the poor administration within SAFA and the amateurish way that they run the sport in South Africa. You can just shake your head is disbelieve.....

  • nn.prv - 2011-10-10 13:29

    SAFA To the SWORD !!!

  • Niekie - 2011-10-10 13:33

    Khune, you are a disgrace to SA! Your antics cost us the game! Please do all of us a favour and stop playing soccer!

  • BlackWhite - 2011-10-10 13:35

    Pitso and Nematandani should just do the honourable thing... RESIGN... you have made SA and yourselves a laughing stock in the world of football... Heads must roll... If you get paid so much money and fail to interprete the rules of the game you are in charge of, then you dont deserve to lead in that game... Pitso and Nematandani must go... they are an embarassment to the nation...

  • Mlu - 2011-10-10 13:36

    Ignorant to the point of being stupid. The team should have played to win and not to draw and that is the essence of sport. The Bafana clowns celebrated a draw and not a win - how stolid could that be?

  • Thinker - 2011-10-10 13:41

    Does Itu really believe the rules were changed during that game? That alone says a lot about his intellect or lack of it rather. This very same rule is also used by EUFA for the EURO 2012 qualifiers. SAFA are just finishing off what the players started and that is making us look like fools to the rest of the world.

  • Real_Issue - 2011-10-10 13:50

    You will be confused if if you don't read well to understand rule especially by leaders/captain/managers. Also why should you even think of a draw to qualify instead of a win. That is bad attitude which you must not train your children to adapt. I like Germans attitude bcos they will score you 101 gaols even if you bring your wives to represent you in any competition.

  • Els01 - 2011-10-10 14:04

    I call on all south africans to unite in banning the SABC/DStv from broadcasting this games. failure for these two to do that, will result in us not paying a cent for the forthcoming season of paying TV licences. The reason for this stance is that SABC and DStv/MNet will use our hard earned cahs to buy broadcasting rights of this games. I (we) am a robbed soul and I will not let those who feel entitled to take this opportunity from us get away with it. Phansi ke CAF 2012...Phansi!!!!

  • Deandre de Bruin - 2011-10-10 14:09

    They need to get more COLOURED & WHITE players in the team who WILL SCORE GOALSSSS!!!! That is all I have to say since they prefer to play for a draw and more draws that is all one ever hears...

  • tebogo phora - 2011-10-10 14:11

    Khune sies ur behaviour on Saturday was pure chicken you showed us just how low you can the same thing you also @ Kaizer Zebra ssies man you should be ashamed of yourself, dont you think we could have @least scored one goal during all those minutes you wasted i think you are partially to be blamed as for your coach NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Musa Ngubane - 2011-10-10 15:08

      I thought we were commenting about Bafana Bafana. Just leave Chiefs out of this!

  • Henry - 2011-10-10 14:11

    Comments from Khune regarding bein ignorant are laughable in this regard - it's a pure and simple case of administrative malpractice ! Our Soccer administrators along with their Cricket counterparts are the laughing stock of the sporting world and an acute embarrassment to all of South Africa !! The way that Khune himself tried to waste time in a thoroughly unprofessional and very childish way was in itself an embarrassment to himself as well as South African Soccer in general ! Just another example of the joke that Soccer has become !! :(

  • Jasog - 2011-10-10 14:14

    We are the Champions of mediocrity! Remember when Jomo and his weaklings were given a standing ovation in parliament for failing to make the knockout stages in the 2002 world cup.

  • shrink - 2011-10-10 14:15

    no no... haikhona itu, you are the ones who changed your tactics during the game , please guys the more you try to defend or justify your ignorance the more the embarrassment, seems to me like the dancing was not enough for an embarrassment.

  • KFACTOR - 2011-10-10 14:16

    These knuckle-heads are doing (in national colours) what they do in their clubs... they continue to play without any objective, they don't know how to mark, they can't finish passes. Khune had a good game and messed it up by pathetic delay tactics and he has a nerve to say "if we knew the rules, we would have played better". He's admitting to playing cr*p deliberately. As painful as it may be, but we don't deserve to be in the AFCON next year. They must stop wasting more money on appeals.

      shrink - 2011-10-10 14:57

      ....and millions have been wasted already for broadcasting the same cr*p, anyway who advices this guys to appeal...... jrrrrrrrrrr.

  • Henry - 2011-10-10 14:21

    Khune, like the administrators of both Soccer and Cricket need to grow-up ! We have become the laughing stock of the sporting world with our Cricket CEO, who is allowed to 'borrow' money from the sport and now Soccer administrators who haven't even got a clue of what the rules are ! Khune's attempts to waste time only served to underline his immaturity and lack of sportsmanship - not sure what he is doing playing at the highest level ? He is a chop of the highest order !!

  • davegcolley - 2011-10-10 14:22

    This already happened a couple of years ago in a game against Zambia, in effort to qualify for the AFCON. Again the administration thought it was on goal difference, not head to head. How has the same mistake happened again?