We are beyond quotas - Paulse

2010-09-22 22:38

Stephen Nell

Cape Town – Black rugby players should be brought into teams systematically and not be rushed.

That is the view of former Springbok wing Breyton Paulse, whose 26 tries in 64 Tests still places him as the fourth leading Test try-scorer in the history of South African rugby.

“It’s not good when things are forced. Quotas are out as far as I’m concerned. We have progressed well beyond that point. Coaches should create opportunities for players that show potential,” said Paulse.

“As a player of colour you already have to deal with a lot of pressure. I had the experience at Western Province in 1996 when I suddenly had to play against a Transvaal side full of World Cup Springboks. Guys like Pieter Hendriks and Japie Mulder ran circles around me.”

Paulse was chatting to Sport24 in a discussion about some of the promising players of colour that had put up their hands on the wing over the past season.

He praised the likes of Lwazi Mvovo, Bjorn Basson and Gio Aplon, saying that they had all marked themselves as contenders to tour Britain and Ireland with the Springboks in November.

“Many of the players of colour, especially those that come from the country areas, come with an inferiority complex. That is already not a good start. They should take the initiative and use their chances,” he said.

Paulse lauded the talent across racial lines and believes Blue Bulls wing Gerhard van den Heever should also be a tour contender.

While the decision is yet to be confirmed, the expectation is that a number of senior players will be rested for the tour at the end of the year.

This could give the Bok selectors the chance to give the likes of Basson, Aplon and Mvovo regular game time.


  • Koos - 2010-09-22 23:48

    Its sad that the SA players of colour that are putting up their hands are all playing on the wing. This makes them their own biggest competition. And eventually there can be only 2 wings in a team. Now when there suddenly appears a truly great wing in SA and he is white, he might as well go and play overseas due to the lack of black/brown players in the team and the only semi-good ones being wings. This is how SA will CONTINUE to lose their talent due to politics and ABSA quotas.

  • garth - 2010-09-23 00:44

    wow, very honest paulse. lets not hold our breathe for the line-up for the eoyt. but hopefully div bloods these youngesters and bring back peter grant where he deserves to be.

  • Louis - 2010-09-23 01:05

    Mooi so Breytie! Dankie vir jou gebalanseerde en volwasse mening omtrent hierdie netelige saak.

  • Emile - 2010-09-23 01:51

    Hope you are not an ABSA client Breytie.

  • Tom via Richardsbaai - 2010-09-23 03:06

    Dankie Breyton, baie dankie

  • Joe - 2010-09-23 05:17

    Nee regtig, ek wens alle Suid Afrikaners wil nou die verlede en rassisme vergeet. Wit of swart, as jy KAN rugby speel dan verdien jy n plek, nie as gevolg van vel kleur of die verlede nie, ons wil wedstryde vir SA wen, watter kan toe okal. Tyd dat reverdigheid seevier!!! en politiek uit die sport verdryf, dit geld vir alle sport soorte, dan sal ons weer bo aan die leer kom!

  • Brendan - 2010-09-23 05:43

    Any true sportsman would say that, and well done to Breyton. Any player who feels they can't make it and want quota's to help them don't deserve the socks on their feet. And I can't imagine there are many. However, I do think there may be some who may think they aren't making it, because of (in their minds) racist white coaches and therefore support quotas. And some of of them.... may be right? But then you get Ralepelle, who you can see tries his darndest, but really must know he's not the 2nd best hooker in the country. How does he feel, since he accepts it (and how many of us would say no in that position?)...

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  • Os - 2010-09-23 07:10

    Well said. i doubt very much that there are many people who don't want players of colour in the team as long as the 1st team is playing. The past was wrong does 2 wrongs make it right? This whole thing is to cause a devide and disrespect between the people of South Africa. The adversity that is generated from the mendling in sport is so unnecessary.

  • Bull - 2010-09-23 07:43

    The problem is not finding quality wings. There's always been at least 4 quality wings of colour to choose from. The problem is finding players of colour to play in the front row, second row etc. The only lock in the country worthy of a shot is Fudge Mabeta. I can't think of any black loose forwards that could make the cut. Floors has been tested and didn't make the step up. Ashley Johnson...maybe. Gurthro and Beast compete for the same spot, and so does Maku and Chilliboy. Saru should focus on getting black players interested in rugby, and KEEPING them interested.

  • please - 2010-09-23 07:50

    Breyten, ..please tell that to ABSA (k@ksa) ...and Fat boy von Zeuner...!!

  • Nixon - 2010-09-23 08:08

    I miss this guy! what a wonderful player he was.

  • Herrie - 2010-09-23 08:09

    Dankie Breyton. Jy sê ons is verby die stadium van kwotas. Probleem is die administrateurs bly onder druk sodat al die unies moet pryse beding vir spelers van kleur, wat hierdie groep nou van die duurste spelers maak om te bekom. En asseblief, almal is al moeg vir die "bring back peter grant" campaign, garth.

  • mountaingoat - 2010-09-23 08:09

    van den heever lyk soos cheerleader nes wynand...hoort glad nie in Bok jersey nie!

  • THE VOICE - 2010-09-23 08:40

    Agree Breytie ... GIO, BASSON and MVOVO are certainly - purely on merit - red hot ... GIO APLON (in particular) is simply in a class of his own ... his blistering pull away speed, swift feet and AMPLE GUTS are going to ensure (if he is not struck down with serious injuries) him to be a future GREAT! Stories about him being "too light for international rugby" is pure NON SENSE!

  • Noitol - 2010-09-23 09:00

    Well said Breyton - a welcome dollop of good sense for a change!

  • Chris - 2010-09-23 09:00

    Thanks Breyton , like a lot of us you are a true rugby player and play to win. I don't think you wanted a "quota" on your inside in a game , only the best, so leave rugby to the players that want to win and not the goverment , and now Absa that is not interested in winning.

  • Jay - 2010-09-23 09:13

    Bull! i agree with you, but the problem lies here, blacks in SA cant watch rugby, especially young kids, because they cant afford DSTV. At R529 a month DSTV is too expensive for most whites even. The limited DSTV package doesnt include any of the rugby channels because all the whites would go to it instead. We want development in rugby, which i have no problem with, then we need to make the game accessible. SARFU chooses the TV broadcaster, so where is their commitment to bringing this beautiful sport to the masses?

  • greg - 2010-09-23 09:17

    Just image being black knowing you are not good enough and still playing for a team. HOW stupid do you have to be to see other players are better than you, -Botha - Rallepele?? Always want some thing for nothing. Free ride when is everybody going to be taught that you have to put in honest work for honest wage!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pieter - 2010-09-23 09:23

    So n bek moet jem kry

  • darkwing - 2010-09-23 09:25

    The truth, pure and simple. Someone mentioned that the sport will not grow unless it is televised on SABC. Greed should be set aside and the sport shown to all the people of the country. That is best first step to making it accessible to everyone. And then, who knows, a proliferation of black kids wanting to be a Springbok. And the more role models grown, the greater the interest.

  • Sonny@mountaingoat - 2010-09-23 09:33

    En jy hoort op 'n berg want jy bler!

  • SYDNEY - 2010-09-23 09:35

    Ek stem nie saam met die Quotas @#$%^& nie, maar as jy kyk in die Wes-Kaap is daar 87 Rugby Klubs waarvan net 11 wit is. EK KAN NIE VERSTAAN HOE DAAR NIE SPELERS IS NIE Tyd dat reverdigheid seevier!!!

  • Westley - 2010-09-23 09:40

    We need more people like you who can see beyond the confines of colour. You the man Breyton. One more thing: F absa

  • james - 2010-09-23 09:48

    Well said, just wish our administartors and govt had the same common sense.

  • Sher - 2010-09-23 10:36

    Why all the fuss when it comes to rugby? What about the Bafana lot - with the world cup games, it was mainly BLACK - Booth sat on the bench and so did Lance Davids - SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE EVERY TIME WITH QUOTAS IN RUGBY??? STOP BRINGING RACIAL ISSUES INTO SPORT - ABSA UPS TO YOU FOR STANDING YOUR GROUND!!!

  • Sher - 2010-09-23 10:37

    Why all the fuss when it comes to rugby? What about the Bafana lot - with the world cup games, it was mainly BLACK - Booth sat on the bench and so did Lance Davids - SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE EVERY TIME WITH QUOTAS IN RUGBY??? STOP BRINGING RACIAL ISSUES INTO SPORT - ABSA UPS TO YOU FOR STANDING YOUR GROUND!!!

  • Sher - 2010-09-23 10:38

    Why all the fuss when it comes to rugby? What about the Bafana lot - with the world cup games, it was mainly BLACK - Booth sat on the bench and so did Lance Davids - SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE EVERY TIME WITH QUOTAS IN RUGBY??? STOP BRINGING RACIAL ISSUES INTO SPORT - ABSA UPS TO YOU FOR STANDING YOUR GROUND!!!

  • COMMON SENSE - 2010-09-23 10:42

    I wonder if any politician will ever read this article and these comments, I like what is being said here, there is a positive energy amongst true rugby players and supporters and it shows when we chat and discuss these issues. Politicians on the other hand (including ABSA-lutely k@K) are known through history for there hidden agendas, thats why they have no honor, backbone, values and integrity. I'm white and I do care who the players are that represent our local and international teams, black, white, brown..... I don't see colour when it comes to being the best , it's about wining ( wierd consept for a politician to grasp, cause they all lie and cheat there way to where they are now ). I'm a proud South African and a proud supporter of South African sport, but very dissapointed in the way that politics medels and creates diversions amongst the citizens of this country through sport to gain favour with groups of voters....... Why don't they spend the money that they waist on all kinds of bull that we are constantly reading and hearing about and use it constructively to gain favour with ot's citizens and develop rugby in areas where it is surely needed and put to good use ?. Somehow I believe that a politician is the lowest form of life known to the human race, and has a negetive and destructive force towards positive growth. Rugby players and suporters of SA UNITE !!! and lets drive these unworthy people and organisations out of our sports society. Oh !! and by the way I'm glad to say that I have ended my 22 year relationship with ABSA entirely...... suck on that !!!

  • rugbylover - 2010-09-23 10:53

    Well said, Breyton. I'm so sick and tired of the word "quota player". Why can't they choose players on merit. Maybe they don't know what it really means.

  • JODY - 2010-09-23 11:50

    GET RID OF HOSKINS>>>>>>>>>>NOW.

  • Raka13 - 2010-09-23 12:43

    Paulse should be Pdiv's spokesperson.

  • rk - 2010-09-23 13:53

    ABSA, i also ended my 17year relationship. Suck on that 2!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Zion Pay - 2010-09-23 14:39

    Gary, do you moonshine for ABSA? This time you have really put your foot into your mouth. I daresay you know like the rest of us that this is not a case of racism or anything else but muscle from a bank with an over inflated ego. Why dont you go support a team like Zim if they still exist that is. Or you could go canvass potential account holders for that bank. Please don't write crap.

  • Steve - 2010-09-23 15:19

    Breyten is what i call a coconut. He always talks in favour of whites. Get lost Breyten. You meant nothing to the coloured community. You have always followed the way of the white man. Quotas can stop, and yes they can pick the best person, but we all know when it comes to coloured players, he always drinks to much, is too fat, is too small, and what other excusr in the book, he can only play wing. Yes pick the best person, if the best person is a coloured then pick him. We all know whites rugby players have been riding on their fathers backs for many years.

  • Rico - 2010-09-23 16:27

    Breyten, what you say makes very good sense. But it totally misses the point! Afriforum and Solidarity are openly lying via the media to the public about what ABSA said. Furthermore, people here just make their own deductions without fully thinking things through. Real issue is not quotas. It never was. Real issue at hand is the FACT that unions are BLOCKING the development of non-white players, by NOT giving the same amount of opportunity as white players. THATS THE POINT. How can you have under 21 teams and under 23 teams who are more than 60% non-white, and you end up with only a handful of non-white players in top teams in SA. This has been going on for a decade or more now. Something is wrong. I'm all for quotas, if it is applied to coaches and selectors! Also the springbok emblem must GO!

  • garth - 2010-09-23 23:45

    @steve.. what are you on about? maybe you been drinking with breyton? you his best friend?

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