Three to debut for Springboks

2011-07-19 06:53

Sydney - South Africa, who travelled to Australia without 21 Test regulars, have included three uncapped players in their team for Saturday's Tri-Nations opener against the Wallabies.

The Springboks will award Test debuts to props Dean Greyling and Werner Kruger as well as number eight Ashley Johnson on Saturday at Sydney's Olympic stadium.

While both sides will hope to avoid injuries on Saturday, they also recognise the importance of building momentum ahead of the September 9 to October 23 Rugby World Cup in New Zealand.

"The new caps had outstanding Super rugby seasons and this is an exciting opportunity for them," coach Peter de Villiers said in a news release.

"We have got some new combinations, but there is a lot of potential in this side and the players are hungry for this chance."

Captain John Smit will win his 103rd cap at hooker alongside four other members of the squad that won the last World Cup - centre Wynand Olivier, scrumhalf Ruan Pienaar, flank Danie Rossouw and lock Johan Muller.

Morne Steyn has been selected at flyhalf in preference to young gun Patrick Lambie, who starts on the bench, while the Wallabies will have to be on the alert for flying wingers Bjorn Basson and Lwazi Mvovo.

Openside flank Heinrich Brussow was unavailable because of a knee injury but he is at least part of the travelling squad.

Key players like scrumhalf Fourie du Preez, centres Jaque Fourie and Jean de Villiers, flank Juan Smith, locks Victor Matfield and Bakkies Botha, and props Gurthro Steenkamp and Tendai Mtawariria all missed the tour through injury.

"Those guys back home would love to be here and if these guys do well, it will put more pressure on them," De Villiers told a news conference.


Springboks: 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Bjorn Basson, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Ashley Johnson, 7 Danie Rossouw, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Johann Muller, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 John Smit, 1 Dean Greyling

Substitutes: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Alistair Hargreaves, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Adrian Jacobs, 22 Patrick Lambie

Wallabies: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 James O'Connor, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Ben McCalman, 7 David Pocock, 6 Rocky Elsom, 5 James Horwill, 4 Rob Simmons, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Sekope Kepu

Substitutes: 16 Saia Faingaa, 17 Pek Cowan, 18 Nathan Sharpe, 19 Matt Hodgson, 20 Scott Higginbotham, 21 Nick Phipps, 22 Anthony Faingaa


  • Serias - 2011-07-19 07:07

    6 and 12 will be our downfall........

      Lehan - 2011-07-19 07:39

      I am a Bulls supporter and I actually agree with you unfortunately. Stegman gives away WAY more penalties than he is "worth" and the only thing Wynand will do is stop the ball from reaching the potentially match winning wings. I hope they prove me very wrong.

      Gomez - 2011-07-19 10:09

      If we can just not give away silly penalties and keep our composure for the first 25,the gaps will come.For this young side to egnite we cannot allow ourselves to fall behind on the scoreboard.

      Andre - 2011-07-19 10:25

      I Agree, whilst Olivier is no more than average, Stegman is pathetic and I cannot understand how he could make the Springbok team. He not only give away penalties but the most of the time he runs around like a headless chicken.

      Marx - 2011-07-19 10:56

      With comments like these, most of them negative, I wonder why players would give their all for a Nation that really really doesn't deserve it !!! You lot are truly pathetic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      GraemeBB - 2011-07-19 11:55

      @Marx - agreed. I bet these guys have a limited rugby knowledge. How can we take them serias?

      GraemeBB - 2011-07-19 12:09

      Let me add that I think this team can do the job. I am happy for Johnson, Greyling and Kruger - well done men. You go make us proud. Even old Adi - if he can make an impact in the last quarter like he has done all year for the Sharks, then I am happy. This is our team, so back the boys. By the way, Steggies is a good fetcher, and some of the penalties against him was dodgy. I will support the boys with all I have.

      Robert B - 2011-07-19 13:47

      If Wynand Olivier spends all his time stopping the ball from reaching his wings then how come Bjorn Basson ended the top try scorer in the Super 15? And Olivier himself the top try scoring centre in the competition? See

      Bigboet - 2011-07-19 15:06

      @Robert, i don't know if you noticed but whenever Basson scored a try Wynand didn't touch the ball, most of his tries were from kicks.

      Steyts - 2011-07-19 15:31

      @Gomez - Sttegmann is playing so noty giving away silly penalties is IMPOSSIBLE!! He is tthe penalty machine and does not think for one second as soon as he runs onto the field!

      Robert B - 2011-07-19 16:13

      Bigboet, no, I can't say I noticed.

      dominik - 2011-07-19 22:00

      god alleen weet wat adrian jacobs nog daar doen. as mens dink aan die eberson broers en hulle seisoen.

      hawk - 2011-07-20 15:29

      Lehan you are what we call a BSINO (Bull Supporter In Name Only). You are one of the first to run away when they start losing, but when they win you open your loadmouth first. Go away you twat

  • Ruggerman - 2011-07-19 07:09

    Why oh why is Wynand Olivier there? He has been given opportunity after opportunity and failed....

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-07-19 07:38

      Olivier deserves to be there,Smit however,,,,,,,not so sure,Ad on the bench????????,,,,,why is he in the team?

      docraven - 2011-07-19 07:48

      Stop moaning about the selection all the time.Wynaand came right towards the end of the S15 so lets hope he continues with that form right the way through.On paper its a good side and i would not exactly call that a "B" side but rather that we have great depth.Their are no true leaders other then Smit in that particular squad so you have to play him.

      MB1810 - 2011-07-19 08:02

      @Bloody Agent: my guess about Ad is, that he is there as a specialist 15 minute player, I wouldn't trust him enough to give hime a start, but with our first choice centres sitting at home, I think he is a good guy to have on the bench. He mostly came on as a sub for the sharks as well, and in their pretty ordinary midfield he managed to inject just a little extra when needed. I don't feel to bad about him being there as long as he starts from the bench.

      Durasmart - 2011-07-19 08:04

      To make sure he fails again. They always pick him behind the second string pack of forwards and then expect him to do miracles with crap ball. At least he is one inside centre that knows how to tackle.

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-19 08:46

      Durasmart, that was brilliantly put.

      Hanjo - 2011-07-19 09:06

      maybe because he was the best SA IC in the Super15, he started every game, he was consistent, and was the top centre try scorer, with 6 tries, he deserves his call-up, between him , Jacobs, and de Jongh, the best combo was chosen, now lets hope they combine well.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 10:03

      At least some Bulls supporters know class and crap when they see it. Steggies is not the best fetcher in SA and Wo had 32 tests to prove his worth. The comment that he is playing behind a back going backwards is rubbish. In 32 tests that was not the case. Lets hope he passes the ball to a class outside centre who know how to step. I am looking forward to the frontrow combination since I believe they could hold their own at international level at scrumtime.

      Dan the Man - 2011-07-19 10:27

      Hanjo, Wynand was by no means anything close to consistent - the first half of the super 15 he was absolutely awful except for his tackling, which is maybe only a quarter of what a good centre does. A good 12 should be able to (1) catch, (2) pass and (3) organise the defense. He was totally lacking in those skills up until the last 5 or 6 games. Think Lambie at 12 would have been the far far superior option

      Marx - 2011-07-19 11:08

      Maybe you lot should give these guys you so like to critisize the chance to run on to the field before tairing them apart, Stegman played the end of tour last year when he CAME BACK FROM A LONG INJURY, he wasn't at his best, but he did recover and the last 7 games for the Bulls he was outstanding, you try to tag him as a yellow card player, what utter rubish, the same was said for Burger, what know, how many chances did Burger get over the years ??? Wynand has always been a solid centre, you bunch of hypocrytes, who are you calling for know, AD?? You wanted AD out and Wynand in not so long ago, no Wynand should go??

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 12:22

      Marx I think you missing the point. You cant compare Burger and Steggies.. Burger is a far better player.. Of course flankers will get carded however Steggies need to get wax removed from his ears. The referee coaches him and he still doesnt listen.. that my friend is stupidity. As for AD he plays outside centre and may not be as solid defensively, but far more creative than WO will ever be. AD has NEVER started in 32 tests and played as crap as WO.. Doppies is a better bet 12 than WO.

      Marx - 2011-07-19 13:36

      Right, you can't compare Burger/Stegman, Stegman played a couple of tests coming from a injury, how many tests have Burger played, and a lot of them definitely not deserved when looking at form. How can you judge Stegman on a hand full of tests?? He is one of our top fetchers in SA, how could he not be in the team, your provincial biased opinion doesn't by chance have anything to do with this?? You are prepared to leave Wynand out of the team and put Doppies in, who haven't played a test??? Wow, you should become our next Bok coach......or maybe NOT ! You're saying Wynand played crap in all his Test matches?? Wow you are a real "rugby brain", they should get rid of the Super Sport crew, and get you and you're kaapie friends in there, cause apparantly the rest of us knows f**kall....

      chappy - 2011-07-19 13:43

      I agree 100% - Wynand Olivier always has a good Super Season, but has not been able to convert it at test level. I think that 32 tests and 1 try shows that he has been given more than enough opportunity without delivering. There are far more deserving centers in SA. Even Adi Jacobs has 7 tries in the exact same number of tests (32), although his defence isn't up to scratch, so he also would not be in my squad. Nobody plays badly on purpose, so I'm not having a dig at anyone, but I can't understand the Boks persistence with him.

      Robert B - 2011-07-19 13:55

      Oliver was the top-scoring South African centre in the S15 (by far) and his wing Bjorn Basson the top try scorer in the competition. If Olivier is a failure, I'll take failure any day.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 14:16

      So Robrt are saying bjorn succes at scoring tries is directly related to WO performance at centre.. If so how come Jaco had a pretty ordinary season.. Marx ...Steggies aint that good. he gives away far more points than he creates. In the pecking order he Flo steals more than he does and arguably Brussouw is is the best fetcher in SA and amongst the best world rugby. What I am saying is that WO has had 32 tests to make his point and failed. Perhaps it would have been more prudent to play Le Grange who has been playing good rugby in a not so good side. You seem to think that everything that wears a bulls sweater is a great player. This is not about provincialism but Springbok rugby.

      Robert B - 2011-07-19 14:28

      Kaapie, I'm saying that Wynand Olivier is not as bad a distributor of the ball as some people seem to think, and that he scores lots of tries too - far more than any centre playing for the Stormers, Sharks or any SA franchise. That's good enough for me.

      Marx - 2011-07-19 14:37

      Funny, you're promoting Burger, Flo and you're calling me "provincial" The two top fetchers in SA is Stegman and Brussouw, many "test tries" did Jean score that wasn't intercepts? Robert makes a valid point, how can Basson be top try scorer if Wynand never passes the ball, 'cause then Basson would never have seen any ball, same goes for Habana when he was playing for the Bulls, both wings.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 18:53

      Marx dont talk to me about provincialism.. why would i say Brussouw and Le grange hardly provincialism. frankly JDV didnt have a great season and seemed shell shocked opposite SBW( WO wansnt exactly convincing against the Crusaders either). Perhaps its time to play Steyn(F), who I dont really fancy or it was time to give Doppies that opportunity. WO had 32 opportunities and he fluffed his lines..

      Ruggerman - 2011-07-20 08:45

      The issue with Olivier is that he is fine at Super rugby and CC levels - he has consistenly failed to step up to Test level - and he has been given many chances

  • - 2011-07-19 07:11

    actually I think our backs look potentially matchwinning. but will our untested forwards win the ball for us?

      Johan - 2011-07-19 08:20, I think our forwards is ok...My concern is our wings! They are fast but on defence I don't think they are up to it! The Wallabies have a great team...we will contest but Cooper and Guinia will dictate...they have to catch us only off guard for 2 minutes and they will score! Thats what happened in the Super 15 final!

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 10:04

      Agree with Basson not being as defensively sound but Mvovo is ok..

  • stephen.eriksenmiller - 2011-07-19 07:12

    The Boks should hold their own in the scrums, but the Wallaby backs are awesome.

  • Paul - 2011-07-19 07:13

    Go Bokke... you can do it

  • Mike@CapeT - 2011-07-19 07:17

    Not a bad Aussie team either!

      Kok - 2011-07-19 07:51

      No Giteau!!! No Davies!!!

  • theunsvw - 2011-07-19 07:24

    These new caps have already proven themselves in the Super Rugby series, they are first choice according to current form. I trust no 6 1nd 12 as they bring some experience to the side. I would NOT write this Bok team off! Only thing that count against them is that they do not know each other as a unit, this could be overcome if they execute a basic game plan and keep it simple...!

  • Peter - 2011-07-19 07:29

    2 blondes are having coffee together. Which one knows the least about rugby?................................Answer Wynand Olivier

      WhySoAngry? - 2011-07-19 09:46

      nee man dit was snaaks die eerste 100 keer maar is n bietjie afgewater nou!

  • Liam - 2011-07-19 07:30

    What a joke. Pienaar and Steyn playing behind a terrible loose trio. What do Kankowski and Vermeulen (injured but wasnt part of squad to begin with) have to do???? Worse than Spies and Johnson?? Are you kidding me?? We will loose at 6, 8, and on the bench!! Aplon deserves a spot on the wing without doubt, and Lambie should be fullback!!!

      MB1810 - 2011-07-19 07:55

      Lambie is talented, but I worry about his positional play at fullback, he has not had much rugby there so I would rather not stick him in an unfamiliar position against a classy team like Aus.

      kosie - 2011-07-19 08:47

      @mb1810: lambie is actually a fullback, the sharks play him at flyhalf because we don't have a decent flyhalf.

      MB1810 - 2011-07-19 09:55

      I have seen him at fullback, but he hasn't consistantly played there at S15 level - so in my opinion he is pretty much untested there and I wouldn't like to experiment with him at 15 in a test match against Aus. They'll kick bomb after bomb on him and I'd feel much more comfortable with him on the bench or at 10. I would hate to see another young guys carreer ruined because coaches and management cant decide where they want to play him. In my opinion he should play at 10 or not at all, it afterall his performance at 10 that earned him his first test cap last year.

      Grant - 2011-07-19 10:29

      Come on people! Lambie STARTED at fullback, was moved to center to be closer to the action, and then to flyhalf when it was realised how well he distributes the ball, makes decisions, and composes himself. He is always solid at fullback, but flyhalf is the most pivotal position in the backline - so you want to have your best playing there. Lambie has distribution skills like no other South African flyhalf.

      hawk - 2011-07-20 15:54

      Mr Liam perhaps you didnt watch the games when the Bulls destroyed the Sharks on their own field and beat the Stormers at Newlands. In both games all of your candidates were given a rugby lesson. Perhaps you should take up Lawn Bowls

  • Peter - 2011-07-19 07:32

    Two blondes are chatting in a coffee shop. Which one knows the least about rugby?.....................................Answer Wynand Olivier

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-07-19 07:39

      wow im impressed and you thought it out all by yourselves

      Carl Muller - 2011-07-19 08:01

      Are you sure you are not blond....

      BlouBos - 2011-07-19 08:50

      Peter Peter Peter. It is one of those senseless Blond Jokes that can only told by a Blond himself.

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 10:10

      jealousy makes you nasty... oh yes, flou flou grappie dai hoor! Probeer maar weer

  • thefeather - 2011-07-19 07:42

    Oh dear. Deon Stegmann. Walking yellow card if ever there was one. What a poor selection. Rest of the team looks OK though, but 2 props on debut against the Aussie scrum is probably suicidal too.

      Whoosa - 2011-07-19 08:10

      Take off your freaken blue and white striped glasses and get behind the boks. If you dant have a positive input, rather shut the f up

      BokBru - 2011-07-19 08:24

      @Whoosa. thefeather is right Stegmann has a reputation for giving away far to many penalties. So it's not unreasonable to believe he might get a yellow. Got nothing to do with blue and white. Oh and saying the rest of the team looks OK is negative? Come on. Everyone here is entitle to their own opinion and preferences. I'm sure there are a couple of guys you would like instead of the ones that's playing.

      Will2.0 - 2011-07-19 09:44

      Two props at debut, yes. But two props who held their own when tested against the best the Aussies and Kiwis have to throw at us. Unlike the tested, experienced front rows in the last two Super 15 matches that SA teams took part in.

      Agile - 2011-07-19 14:19

      Stegmann only has a reputation because uninformed and casual fans make it so.

      thefeather - 2011-07-19 17:49

      Ha ha what a pity I only saw Whoosa's response now. Where did it stipulate that I was a Province supporter? Check out Stegmann's record in the S15 and come back and let's chat. Probably the highest penalty conceding loosie in the country and most likely the deafest because he doesn't seem to listen to the refs cotinuously warning him. And ANY 2 props on debut is a tough ask, the fact that these 2 are from the Bulls has absolutely nothing to do with it. Perhaps wind your scrawny Pretoria neck in before you get all flustered, there's a good lad.

      Whoosa - 2011-07-20 06:55

      @ Bokbru and feather - Stegman in the past was a "walking yellow card" but improved alot. Acording to stats the bulls were the SA that gave away the least amount of cards this S15. So feather i presume that Schalk Burger also would be a poor selection in your eyes cause he was a walking yellow card 5 years ago??? And feather ha ha who said anything about me staying in Pretoria?

      hawk - 2011-07-20 15:57

      Nobody seems to talk about the Elephant in the house. Namely OUPA Smith. He is slow and old. Chilliboy should play. He has been outstanding. What more does he have to do?

  • Caveman28 - 2011-07-19 07:44

    Go Bokke; make us proud!

  • Kobus - 2011-07-19 07:44

    Saturday is going to be very interesting... Everyone is expecting them to loose but this is not a bad bok side by any means... If they loose it would have been expected, but what if they win?

      BokBru - 2011-07-19 08:25

      True Kobus. I'm not writing them off at all. I think they might have a good chance of winning. Specially if the Ausies take them lightly. Enjoy.

  • Rumbler - 2011-07-19 07:44

    The Aussie team looks like a South Seas Barbarian team these days with all the South Sea Islanders in it. They are just like the Kiwis, pick a player, any player as long as it strengthens the national side.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 07:55

      Rumbler: Did you know that Australia also has indigenous people; just like NZ; just like SA and every other country. The fact that there are players with a dark complex in the NZ or Aus team does not necessarily mean they are from Samoa, Tonga or Fiji. Plz bru, in all your getting, get some knowledge.

      Rumbler - 2011-07-19 07:58

      Ok Kok, please enlighten us - exactly how many players in both teams were born in Aus and NZ??

      Kok - 2011-07-19 08:00

      1. John Afoa - born Auckland NZ 2. Ben Atiga – born Auckland NZ 3. Graeme Bachop – born Christchurch NZ 4. Stephen Bachop - born Christchurch NZ 5. William Birtwhistle – born Auckland NZ 6. Andrew Blowers – born Auckland NZ 7. Frank Bunce - born Auckland NZ 8. Christian Cullen - born Paraparaumu NZ 9. Michael Jones - born Auckland NZ 10. Josh Kronfeld - born Hastings NZ 11. Pat Lam - born Auckland NZ 12. Keith Lowen – born Huntly NZ 13. Lelia Masaga - born Wellington NZ 14. Aaron Mauger - born Christchurch NZ 15. Nathan Mauger - born Christchurch NZ 16. Keven Mealamu - born Tokoroa NZ 17. Brad Mika - born Auckland NZ 18. Dylan Mika - born Auckland NZ 19. Ma'a Nonu - born Wellington NZ 20. Kevin Senio – born Auckland NZ 21. Benson Stanley – born Auckland NZ 22. Jeremy Stanley - born Auckland NZ 23. Joe Stanley - born Auckland NZ 24. Neemia Tialata – born Wellington NZ 25. Filo Tiatia – born Wellington NZ 26. Ofisa Tonu'u – born Wellington NZ 27. Mose Tuiali'i – born Auckland NZ 28. Richard Turner - born Auckland NZ 29. Tana Umaga – born Lower Hutt NZ 30. Victor Vito – born Wellington NZ 31. Bryan Williams – born Auckland NZ 32. Sonny Bill Williams - born Auckland NZ

      Kok - 2011-07-19 08:02

      Sosene Anesi – born Samoa played schoolboy rugby in NZ 2. Olo Brown - born Samoa arrived in NZ during primary school 3. Eroni Clarke - born Samoa arrived in NZ aged 3 4. Jerry Collins - born Samoa arrived in NZ aged 6 5. Alama Ieremia born Samoa arrived in NZ as a teenager 6. Jerome Kaino - born American Samoa arrived NZ at young age 7. Casey Laulala – born Samoa, arrived in NZ at young age 8. Chris Masoe - born Samoa arrived in NZ at young age 9. Mils Muliaina - born Samoa arrived in NZ aged 2 10. John Schuster – born Samoa arrived in NZ at young age 11. John Schwalger – born Samoa arrived in NZ at young age 12. Dave Solomon – born in Fiji schooled in NZ 13. Frank Solomon - born in Fiji schooled in NZ 14. Rodney So'oialo – born Samoa arrived in NZ at young age 15. Isaia Toeava – born Samoa arrived in NZ at young age 16. Va'aiga Tuigamala – born Samoa arrived in NZ at young age 17. Rudi Wulf – born in Samoa arrived in NZ at very young age

      Kok - 2011-07-19 08:04

      Both the Faingaa brothers are born in Aus. Don't know about Kepu and Ioane. Genia not from Aus. Cooper is a Moari from NZ.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 08:05

      Why is it anyway a fuss???!!! Boks are full of Zimbabwians. The Beast even played without a SA passport.

      jk - 2011-07-19 08:19

      kok- this long list that you gave us, do you think we actualy read it?? who cares if the guy is born in sudan for that matter!??

      MB1810 - 2011-07-19 08:38

      That long list of Zimbabweans in the SA side still only amounts to one (The Beast). The only other Zimbabwean who had Bok colours is Chavanga. Brian Mujati is also from there, but has never been picked for the Boks in a test match. Jip, I guess thats a really long list, and while we are on the topic of Zimbabweans, isn't Pocock from there too? Point is, who cares where the guys were born, if they play thier rugby in Aus for long enough they should be able to play for the National side. Same applies to SA, same applies to NZ.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 08:39

      I am Khoisan jk. Do you know who we are? We were here before Jan van Riebeeck came here. And before the blacks came from the north and before the slaves from the east. I am not mix. Jou ma is mix.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 08:45

      Thanks MB1810. Hope the two iditiots, jk & rumbler, get the message.

      jk - 2011-07-19 08:56

      kok- where is the koisan from kok, durban?

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-07-19 09:02

      Hey KOK omdat jy n hottie is is nie te se jy is n Maori nie - 2011-07-19 09:17

      @ Kok why are you giving us all the NZ team info. Its Aus on Sat? What info you got on their bloodlines? you seem to be quite an authority on it.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 09:19

      Wat is 'n hottie?

      Kok - 2011-07-19 09:23

      @Herb77: Are you smoking some herbs or what?? Lol. Plz refer to Rumbler's comment. He actually ask me to do it.

      Rumbler - 2011-07-19 10:08

      Kok, look these up on Google.,124961.html Four out of the starting line up not born in Aus! Recon that this is close to being Barbarians. Will google the NZ team when it is announced. Have a nice day - i'm off to work.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 10:21

      Rumbler: If those guys run out on that rugby field with an Australian rugby jersey on, they are Australians. Same apply to all the other nations.

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 12:46

      actually jk and kok let me clarify this for you both. Kok is a South African. So jk stop your racial remarks it is in very bad taste. As for you kok, support any team you like, truth is you will always be a South African, like it or not.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 14:07

      @jk: Ek is te ordentlik om vir jou beledigende name te noem. Ek sal sleg voel agterna en dan moet ek weer verskoning. So ek sal liewer maar vir jou jk noem. @Blueraven: Dankie. ek besef ek is 'n SAffer en wil nooit 'n kiwi wees nie. Dit beteken nie ek kan nie vir die All Blacks skree nie. It is a matter of choice.

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 14:08

      jk it has everything to do with me and every other South African who is proud of our new democracy and wants to move on from our sorted past. Your racial remarks reflects your ignorance.

      jk - 2011-07-19 14:24

      ek se jou wat raven- bly jy hier uit, ok , democracy smokary, bla bla bla. een groot family??...

      Kok - 2011-07-19 14:34

      Stadig jk. Daars 'n spreekwoord wat sê: Kwaadrakens speel nie saam nie.

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 14:50

      ag kok los die kind hy het geen benul waarvan hy praat nie... sou dink sy ouers sou hom darm iets leer maar nou ja.

      Bandleader - 2011-07-19 14:59

      Rumbler, are you doff? Obviously pick any player to strengthen the national side. You make it sound like every nation has to only pick certain people. A bit one-sided in your pale view, maybe? Volk en vaderland works only to a point.

      Dan - 2011-07-20 12:11

      @ Kok. If Malema reads this, you are in big trouble. According to him he was first in SA and everything you were stolen from him and his familiy. Maybe he can also list his entire family tree for you

  • Krugga - 2011-07-19 07:45

    This team is much better than the 2nd stringers we sent to the Tri Nations in 2007. Explosive backs in De Jong, Mvovo, Aplon and Basson. How the loose trio will function as a unit is gonna be interesting, 2 ball carriers Slash and Roussow and a fetcher. Just hope defence is sorted.

      Raka13 - 2011-07-19 08:54

      True Krugga, I think the backs as individuals can cause real havoc. It would've been interesting to have Hougaardt in this team. The defence is a problem for me too, don't think our wings are that good defenders. Wynand and Morne will have to have their communication worked out. I think they will have the most difficult task come defence. Aplon also will have to be sharp at the back with cover defence and chip kicks from Quade. Danie will proof again what valuable player he really is.

  • Kok - 2011-07-19 07:50

    Go Bokke!!!!!

      kiwi - 2011-07-19 09:14


      Kok - 2011-07-19 09:26

      @Kiwi: When I watch a game where the All Blacks are not involve, I like to support the weaker team.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 12:26

      Daai is nog worse..Jy's nog steeds 'n cullart. dont try to be something youre not. You aint a NZ. You remind me of the cullarts at varsity that we called wannabee's wannabee NZ lander. Stick to rugby and stop making stupid remarks. Otherwise stay on NZ sites. Clearly youre missing home. Funny thing is home is not missing you

      Kok - 2011-07-19 14:13

      Kaapie my ou maat. Is jy nog op varsity? Moet jy nie leer nie? Hou op op die internet sit, jy sit seker noual 3 jaar met eerstejaarsvakke, omdat jy heeldag op die internet sit. Ek is 'n khoi - griekwa - gri-griqua. Groot verskil tussen 'n griekwa en 'n cullart. Cullart is 'n beledigende naam wat op ons mense gedwing was deur jou apartheidsregering. Griekwa is n trotse volk en nasie op sy eie, met sy eie tradisies, lewenswyse, ens. Maar jy is te dom om ons te verstaan, want dis duidelik dat jy ook gebrain wash is.

      Grey B - 2011-07-19 15:18

      Kok. PLEASE F-off.

      Staalbal - 2011-07-19 16:14

      @ Kok Tog so trots op jou griqua heritage, maar support die all blacks. Hoekom trek jy nie jou koppie uit jou gat uit nie. Support jou volk, kyk net na Bjorn.

      Kok - 2011-07-19 16:17

      Scared of the truth Grey B????

      Kok - 2011-07-19 16:49

      As Bjorn daai groen trui oor sy kop trek, dan is hy onmiddelik opposisie. In die gees van rugby - nie vyandigheid nie.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 19:03

      KoK for me cullart isnt derogatory.. Finished varsity long time ago before you learned to clean your own arse. I aint ashamed of who i am.. Clearly you are,thats why you trying NZ. Fact is you were oppressed one way or the other so makes no difference to me. i dont carry logs around. What 'lewenswyse' are you talking about.. They have the same social issues that tha cullarts, blacks and whites have. Have spent enough time in the Northern cape to see what happens over a weekend there.. and you call it 'lewenswyse'. Very few of your people practice the tradition that your speak of. Clearly you choose to ignore and run away, completely brainwashed. nee ou maat dom is ek nie.. But you are an excuse for a Griekwa/south african.

      Kok - 2011-07-20 07:59

      Ag Kaapie. Bugger off!!!!

      Kaapie - 2011-07-20 09:59

      Nay broer , you buggered of. Be happy on the NZ websites and if you made your bed mate , sleep in it.

  • MB1810 - 2011-07-19 07:51

    Pretty much as expected, but where is Brussouw?, why all the hype about him being ready to tour and then you don't even put him on the bench, the guy needs game time! My Loosies would have been: 6. Brussouw 7. Johnson 8. Rossouw

      Kleinboet - 2011-07-19 20:40

      Brüssow is not fit enough to play, yet; that is why he is not even on the substitute bench. I would also have liked to see hom play, but we cannot risk another injury to this man because we are overhasy.

  • - 2011-07-19 07:58

    Dont know what the hell Stegmann is doing there another Affrimitive Bulls player.....

      BokBru - 2011-07-19 08:30

      He is there because he's a very good player. If he can only sort out his discipline he can be very good. - 2011-07-19 08:38

      But is he really better than Daniel or Louw?

      Vaughn Jacobs - 2011-07-19 09:01

      ...because the idiot Bakkies is not there, so they need a new idiot !

  • Carl Muller - 2011-07-19 07:59

    Good luck and all the best for our boys......may they win.

  • Lebogang - 2011-07-19 08:05

    Steggmann is gonna cost us. But hope he does well. Danie is no more a loosie, he's a lock. But otherwise good side to shout for. Exciting backs but with so much brawn in the team, I don't see the backs getting ball because a 10 men rugby game plan is on the cards.

      David - 2011-07-19 12:27

      I quite like the team, given the , um, injury list. Stegman is a pretty good player, but plays too close to the edge. Unless your name is Richie, you won't get away with it. If he can get his timing better, he will compete. I hope Squeaky is teaching Meisie how to pass. He did play a lot better towards the end of the S15.

  • The_Fox - 2011-07-19 08:07

    Good backline, just a shame about Meisiekind. Perhaps Lambie should get a shot at 12 with JDJ @13 - could be interesting. Go Bokke!!!! (and Stegmann, try not to get a card for a change, we need you to CONCENTRATE)

      Kaapie - 2011-07-19 10:13

      Lambie at 12 could be a good option since he has played there for Sharkies with aplomp

  • duncan.willis - 2011-07-19 08:17

    Good luck Boks, I'm right behind you!! Team could be better, but doesn't look as bad as I thought it would be. We gonna have lots of Morne's brainless kicks in the first half though. Hopefully we can get the backline moving in the second half when Lambie comes on.

  • Staalbal - 2011-07-19 08:33

    Good team, just not sure about Stegmann and prince charming. Both can play a very good game, but steggies gives away more penalties than winning turnovers. If Wynand can just put JdJ in space then I see difficulties for the Aussies. There is a hell of a lot of pace in that Bok backline and needs to be properly utilised. A solid pack, I like the two bulls props in there and Danie at 7 is a good move. I'm very happy for Ashley, he has been the form 8th man in the SR season and deserves his spot. GO BOKKE!!!!!!

  • BlouBos - 2011-07-19 08:47

    Ja jong, let the Bulls save the day for SA yet again.

      WhySoAngry? - 2011-07-19 09:54

      funny...die enigste ding wat julle kan save is julle gras op loftus met al die k@K wat julle daar speel!!!! hahahahahaha GO BOKKE!!!!

  • The_Lil_Wizard - 2011-07-19 08:48

    Would everyone stop hating on John Smit already! Who would you honestly pick as captain out of this squad, or for the world cup squad for that matter? As a hooker at the moment he is definitely not the best in his position, but as a captain, no player in the country can touch him! His presence on the field in invaluable, and if you have watched any Bok rugby over the past 6 years you would have seen that with the games he never played, or where he was substituted and the team fell to pieces! I also think we have a very exciting running backline for the weekend, even with the inclusion of Wynand "I have no vision and 'have never passed a rugby ball in my life" Olivier! I think this is going to be a good game, as both backlines are going to run the ball, a lot, so the question will be defence, and unfortunately some of the Boks players defence is a bit questionable. I pick the Aussies to win, as they will be out to prove a point after last week, but make no doubt this is a very young Bok squad with loads of potential for the future!

  • ken.borain - 2011-07-19 09:00

    A total mismatch!.........look at the Aussie backline........all BIG playmakers. Our wings will never see the ball! I also agree with Nick.

  • Plato - 2011-07-19 09:06

    Find the team very interesting. Most of these players were on the ‘experts’ team selections during the S15. Did Snorre take note or is he clever and try to show us why he is not going to pick some of them for the World Cup? I believe it is an excellent team and is a good base to start from. The players at home better sit up and take note. I can think of a number of old hands that is sweating it out..!

  • Vaughn Jacobs - 2011-07-19 09:08

    Its not fair ! The Aussies will have 17 players on the field......Olivier and Smit also plays for them !

  • chrismtb007 - 2011-07-19 09:10

    This team actually looks good, might just make the Aussies eat their words!!! lets hope!!

  • Anton - 2011-07-19 09:15

    Nee wat die bokke kan hierdie een maklik wen hul moet net inhulsef glo

  • chris.stander1 - 2011-07-19 09:16

    Lehan, did you miss the super rugby games, Wynand is back with force and spreading the ball better than Jean.

  • Shnez - 2011-07-19 09:19

    At least he got the wings right!!! some potential there!

  • chris.stander1 - 2011-07-19 09:23

    Gavin, Nick. Missing most of the games lately? Wynand is back with a force and has made and scored more tri's than J and J. Get behind the Boks or get one way tickets to Aus.

  • Sandile - 2011-07-19 09:44

    SA doesnt have a fetcher in the starting XV or on the bench, I see Pocock having a field day!

  • Dal2000 - 2011-07-19 10:01

    15 and 14 are a defensive liability...sadly

      MB1810 - 2011-07-19 10:21

      I'm also concerned about the defense, our backline has a lot of speed, but that does not say anything about their tackling ability. I've seen Aplon make some good hits on guys much bigger then him, so of the back three I'm most comfortable with him. Mvovo has made some try saving tackles for the Sharks in the past and if he can manage it at test level we should be okay, but neither him or Bjorn Basson inspires much confidence where the defense is concerned. I'm also worried about Morne Steyn, he's an average defender in my opinion, but I'm hoping the fact that Olivier is playing outside him and they know each other pretty well helps improve that. It kind of makes me wish we had at least 2 guys that goes for the bone crunching tackles like the Samoans did, the rest of the team can try to rip the ball. Big hits make a difference, the look on Rod Davies' face all through the Samoa match said it all, by the 75th minute I could have sworn he was scared to get the ball.

  • BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 10:07

    not bad for a "B team" Go Bokke! We behind you all the way!

  • piet4545 - 2011-07-19 10:13

    Stegman worries me, and Olivier! yet another chance hes had 30 something already, only scoring 1 try, which is nothing given he never passes the ball, compare to Jaques Fourie scoring about 32 tries in 64 games. thats class! Would have liked to see Lambie at 10, we know what we got in Morne Steyn. Looking foward seeing Greyling play he deserves he chance.

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 12:41

      you worry me

  • Aldrich - 2011-07-19 13:12

    The bok side looks like a decent bunch....I can't wait for them to kick Ausie @ss - my bloed is Groen!!!

  • twincamsam - 2011-07-19 13:31

    3 blonds sit in 'n bar. Wie weet die minste van rugby af? Wynand Olivier.

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 14:11

      yawn! boring....

  • Robert B - 2011-07-19 13:46

    Lehan: if Wynand Olivier spends all his time stopping the ball from reaching his wings then how come Bjorn Basson ended the top try scorer in the Super 15? And Oliver himself the top try scoring centre in the competition? See

  • Bandleader - 2011-07-19 15:02

    I'm rooting for an upset in which this team rises to the occasion to knock the Aussies for six! There's a blend of youth and crocks (some may say experience), and once they replace Stegman, we may have a fighting chance. Ever the optimist, I know...

      BlueRaven - 2011-07-19 15:12

      give this man a Bells!!!

  • Kapnschtaten - 2011-07-19 17:34

    Can't wait to see the "young guns" take on the Aussies at Test level. It's going to be CRAZY. Sure this is a team without the usual suspects, but hey these are the guys that are going to be filling the boots in the future! If the Aussies think the Samoan's were tough, then they're in for a rude awakening!!! Ashley Johnson and Lwazi Mvovo 2 tries a piece, John Smittie man of the match for leading by example. Its going to be AWESOME. I don't mind who wins the Tri-Nations as long as its the Boks.....GO BOKKE!!!!!!!!

  • Raymond - 2011-07-19 19:41

    It's a Sharks and Bulls combination team. @Lehan and Andre,I agree with absolutely.Stegman and Chiliboy are the two most over rated players in South Africa.The question is not whether Australia is going to win,it is how much they are going to win by.

  • Kleinboet - 2011-07-19 20:52

    Boys, you now are officially Springbokke and I salute you one and all! I will support you this Saturday, no matter whether I like your background or your style of play. Please, please, please play out of your skin and obliterate the Ausies! Make us proud! GO, BOKKE!

  • dominik - 2011-07-19 21:58

    god alleen weet wat adrian jacobs nog daar doen. as mens dink aan die eberson broers en hulle seisoen.

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