Steyn out of All Blacks Test

2011-08-15 14:42

Port Elizabeth - Springbok fullback Frans Steyn will not be considered for Saturday’s Castle Tri-Nations Test against New Zealand in Port Elizabeth.

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Steyn injured his hamstring against Australia last Saturday in Durban and will not be fit to play this weekend at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium. He will remain with the squad to do his rehabilitation.

Furthermore, Bok captain John Smit sat out training on Monday morning because of flu.

Springbok conditioning coach Neels Liebel confirmed that the elbow injury Smit sustained is not serious. Both Smit and Bakkies Botha, who is also struggling with a light bout of flu, should be ready to play. The team for Saturday’s Test will be named on Tuesday.

Springbok coach Peter de Villiers said the team is looking forward to play in the new Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium.

“It will be our first Test in Port Elizabeth in a number of years and the first time we’ll face New Zealand here since 1970. It’s going to be a big occasion and one we’re looking forward to,” said De Villiers.

“We weren’t happy with defeat against Australia last weekend, but we did a lot of things right in the Test - small things we’ve really been working hard on - and that was good to see. This weekend we have to be even better in our execution.”


  • Makutu - 2011-08-15 14:45

    France has not done this guy's rugby any good. Please return to SA and re-learn how to play rugby boet. Thi sis not 2009 or 2007, people are actually moving on. Danie Russouw must just retire ASAP! John Smit can come help me with duck hunting. He'll add value there.

      Travie - 2011-08-15 15:01

      Thank goodness we might stand a chance now

      Mojojo - 2011-08-15 15:24

      Can Morne Steyn join you also? He seems to think that the ball belongs in the hands of the opposition. Why else would he spend 15 minutes kicking the ball back to them so that they can run at us?

      Happybloke - 2011-08-15 16:43

      At least he done better van Aplon who was so scared and poor in form it seems he was playing grade 4 rugby boet

      roboman1 - 2011-08-15 16:52

      Frans Steyn just needs to shed 15kg's and then he will be fine, he is talented. Rossouw must definitely go, his handling is terrible. Morne must stay, he is the best kicker, and as for Jon, well what can we say, he needs to play less minutes

      flat bier - 2011-08-15 16:56

      We do not see the fullback coming into the line anymore creating the space for the wing. Jouba and Percy did it so beautifully...

      Makutu - 2011-08-15 17:40

      Have you seen Jaco Taute of the Lions? Have you seen Joe Pietersen? Come on!!! Have you even seen Lionel Mapoe???

      Riaan - 2011-08-15 17:51

      Hell he needed the exercise..

      Henk - 2011-08-16 09:44

      France, please do something about your attitude. You are playing for your country! Get in shape! Think on your feat! Consider when to pass, when to run and when to kick! Rugby is a team game! Even if you have all the talent you still need to work hard at it. Woeker met jou talente boetie!

  • Bulldozer - 2011-08-15 14:46

    Ek hoop die aap gaan nou n bietjie sy hare sny.

      jk - 2011-08-15 14:49

      dozer- hou tog op om so verkramp en konserwatief te wees...

      MaanDonkie - 2011-08-15 14:53

      Sy hare lyk nie so sleg soos die res van hom nie....die ou het n weigh less consultant dringend nodig. Profesionele sportman se gat....dis hoekom hulle so sleg gedoen het teen oposisie wat behoorlik gekondisioneer is.

      Sh@rks Fever - 2011-08-15 14:59

      Het julle HD PVR. Op HD lyk hy eintlik goed. Weet nie hoekom almal dink hy lyk vet nie.

      sc? - 2011-08-15 14:59

      moet gewig verloor en baie ook!

      jk - 2011-08-15 15:00

      swaar gebeente...

      Sh@rks Fever - 2011-08-15 15:01

      EN Bulldozer stem saam. Hy moet sy hare sny en sy baard ook. Soos in die army moet jy respectab;e op die veld lyk. Hy is 'n mop kop.

      Kevin - 2011-08-15 15:05

      @Bulldozer Your beloved Spies played out of his socks on Saturday, and i think he will only get better still.

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-15 15:25

      Jk my kind, daar is n verskil tussen konserwatief en respektabel. Sh@rks Fever, daai mannetjie sou dit nie maak in die army nie. G5 K5 se gat. Kevin I noticed, Pierre played out of his skin.

      jk - 2011-08-15 15:26

      al julle verkramptes- dis nie n mode parade nie...ons gaan nog steeds niks wen as almal deur n ring getrek kan word nie

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-15 16:19

      Nee jk dit is nie, maar iemand moet vir Frans se die dirty French look pas hom glad nie.

      Rob Rabbit - 2011-08-15 16:34

      Is it in your "culture" to be nasty?

  • Sarge - 2011-08-15 14:51

    Hopefully they will consider Lambie at fullback.

      Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-08-15 15:07

      Anyone but Morne, please! Will probably start with Aplon with Lambie on the bench...

      dribble - 2011-08-15 15:18

      are smoking your socks.....lambie at fulback....the last line of defence.....he is a third string flyhalf at best

      Sarge - 2011-08-15 15:28

      @dribble, Considering what you say is complete dribble anyway how do you back these claims? He is one of the best defenders in SA rugby and given ample space to work he is a very dangerous attacker. Considering he still young and has a lot more to learn he is already years ahead of some of the other players we have on offer. He is a true rugby born talent.

      ikey_tiger - 2011-08-15 15:32

      Noo.. Leave Lambie at flyhalf! They are going to do with Lambie what they did with Frans, Brent Russel, Pienaar, and many more.. all of which are Sharks players I might add.. It isn't good for any player to be moved around like that and it has hardly ever been successful.

      Sarge - 2011-08-15 15:40

      @ikey_tiger, Agree they are not doing him any favors switching him around! Lambie was a fullback to begin with, he even debuted @ fullback for the sharks in the S14 and he showed real class in that position. I'm also not saying he is bad at 10, I would like to see what he can do with a proper pack of forwards to support his style of play.

      Durasmart - 2011-08-15 17:24

      @ikey_tiger. All those players you mentioned were natural fullbacks and should have remained there and become legends in that position, but the coaches tried to make all of them flyhalves, which is something they never were and the same with Lambie. He is a natural fullback and can become an iconic player in that position, but he is not a flyhalf.

      StBad - 2011-08-15 17:44

      Sadly we have no standout fullback in this country... we're very focussed on flyhalf and tighthead but we are far too thin in world class fullbacks.

  • H&P - 2011-08-15 14:52

    Plenty of uninformed comments here, if you actually follow the Top 14 in France (their domestic rugby league) you would know that he had a stellar season for Racing Metro He is very highly rated by his peers in France and management. He is having a great time in Paris, he has learned the language, and is pulling in R8 mill a year, (he has completed 2 years of his 3 year contact) not bad for 21 yrd old from Bethlehem.

      bakkebul - 2011-08-15 14:57

      Just feel he is too heavy, I mean 110kg!! No wonder he pulled a hammy!!

      Spider - 2011-08-15 15:06

      Good Comment mate. Some idiots are so ignorent and stupid that they do not seeh point. Our team will come right for the world cup and we will farr much better. The Black chokers are doing it all over again. No wonder they ensured not meeting France in the nock out stages. Frans Steyn is world class, and will gell sooner than later. I would have done the same, was I in his shoes. He is a clever and strong full back, but I will play him inside centre. He will be a good match fore Sunnybill.

      Makutu - 2011-08-15 15:10

      French rugby and South African rugby are miles apart. He is simply not fitting in! I wish someone could bring back that old law that said that no foreign based boks will play for the Springboks. This guy used to to be good in the previous years. In South African terms. He is simply not there anymore! Time to move on and leave this guy with his French Ambitions.

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-15 15:19

      He is as slow as Pienaar, who is also rated highly, but that is only club rugby.

      Rick - 2011-08-15 15:23

      21 years old hey!... born in 1987 and that makes him 21 according to you. what was that you were saying about uninformed? ha ha

      H&P - 2011-08-15 15:26

      FYI - he actually dropped a few kg to 98kg in France - he said that on those heavy fields it helps to be lighter, but now back at the Bokke he is 110, bok conditioning???

      MB1810 - 2011-08-15 15:35

      I like Frans Steyn simply because I think he is our safest option at 15. He did some solid things on cover defense, but did not do much on attack, simply because he did not see much of the ball. I just have a bit more faith in him in the SA setup than our other contenders.

      H&P - 2011-08-15 16:09

      @ Rick I meant he was 21 when he signed his R24 mill deal with Racing, I thought that was obvious, Rick I'll use pictures next time just for you.

      bakkebul - 2011-08-15 16:14

      @ H & P - you'll do well in politics!

      TheTruth - 2011-08-15 16:49

      24 is young. Steyn is a very talented player. I will gamble with him at full back any day, since SA DOES NOT have a recognized established fullback.

      Grant - 2011-08-15 17:30

      Lambie is a top-class fullback, but I'd still rather keep him at flyhalf where he can play pivot...dont mess him around. Frans Steyn I've always rated. Didnt do anything wrong on Sat, and didnt have the opportunity to attack, as we simply werent playing a running game. Having said that, he DID look kinda slow, cos he's DEFINATELY packing some weight... not many are quick out of the blocks weighing over 100kg. Still - he's given no reason yet to lose faith in him...

  • Schweet - 2011-08-15 14:53

    Damn... hope they play pat lambie at 10 and zane/ludick/jantjies anybody except aplon at 15...

  • Sh@rks Fever - 2011-08-15 14:56

    Steyn, well will be glad to see Lambie at Fullback, Alberts back at 7 and Bismarck in for Smit. The rest of the team unchanged. Boy was I right about Spies last week when everyone thought how useless he was. He was probably at 60% of what he is capable of but 200% better than in previous games the last two years. He must now just learn that those big things hanging down the side of his body can be used for tackling.

      Andrew - 2011-08-16 03:03

      Agree with you, Spies and Brussow will be fantastic if they have a Nr. 7 that can make the big tackles, Rossouw was not a good choice, he is a good option to have on the bench because he can cover lock and loosies (preferably lock) but not in a starting line up, I would have picked Johnson at 7 against the Wallabies. My starting team for this weekend might be: Beast – Bismarck – Jannie – Victor (c) – Bakkies – Brussow – Alberts/ Deysel (if Alberts is not fit) – Spies – Du Preez – Butch – JP - JdV – JF – Habana – Lambie. Bench: Guthro – Chilli – Danie Rossouw/ Mostert – Deysel – Aplon – Mvovu – MSteyn I also think a guy like Ashley Johnson should be in the picture, he can cover 7 and 8

  • rosemarie - 2011-08-15 14:56

    Frans - send him to the Stellenbosch Health Farm and keep him there

  • dobo - 2011-08-15 14:57

    He looked overweight (too much buffet....) which brings into question his conditioning training?

      Snys - 2011-08-15 15:23

      Not overweight....just easy to see!

  • ChrisG - 2011-08-15 15:01

    Now I can see why Ricky Januarie is so keen to go play in France. Looks like Steyn hasn't exactly been skipping any meals over there.

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-15 15:29

      Ricky would have given us much needed go forward - FDP was poor.

  • Anneleen - 2011-08-15 15:05

    ...hope to see Lambie play...regarding Steyn, how tall is this player...then maybe his weight is not such a big issue...? Speedy recovery for you, Frans Steyn.

      bakkebul - 2011-08-15 15:10


      Sh@rks Fever - 2011-08-15 15:20

      He is 1.91 and 110kg. Brussouw is 1.81 and 101kg. Nothing wrong with his weight. Normal wide screen TV makes you look bigger. On HD he looked good with lots of defenition in his legs which he never use to have. He needs to play better rugby to be worthy of the 15 jumper though. He didn't have a cracker although he save a certain try when he tackled Beale on the try line in the 40th minute. For that and his long distance kick in a windy Durban he deserves his spot.

      Anneleen - 2011-08-15 15:21

      @bakkebul...dankie...nou kan ek gaan kyk wat se "Body Mass Index"!

      bakkebul - 2011-08-15 15:40

      @ sharkie: It will be interesting to see his stats with regards to sprinting times. If it’s still the same – great, I doubt it however. H & P made an interesting observation re his weight when playing in France – 98kg. Going into the WC all the players should be at optimal condition – I just don’t know about Frans.

      Sarge - 2011-08-15 15:45

      I would play Frans Steyn at center instead of Jaen De Villiers. De Villiers just seemed to be a bit slow for the demands of test rugby. Age is catching up i presume.

      Anneleen - 2011-08-15 15:52

      @Sh@rks Fever...thanks for the info...yip, kicking in the weather that Durbs served on that particular evening, Frans did very well...if my tv wasn't broken, i would have enjoyed the game even more!

  • DeonL - 2011-08-15 15:05

    I hope Smit won't start.

      Makutu - 2011-08-15 16:05

      Me too!

  • JT - 2011-08-15 15:06

    To be honest he wasn't really in the Aussie test either.

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-15 15:33

      My exact thought when I saw that headline.

  • JohannV - 2011-08-15 15:14

    I'm so glad he's out! He really had a bad hair day on Saturday...

  • Desmond - 2011-08-15 15:21

    the Boks are going to win on Sat

  • kiwi - 2011-08-15 15:22


  • The Hock - 2011-08-15 15:22

    I love Frans Steyn but he didn't have a great game on Saturday. He's not fat, but hammie injury is classic for when you're just not quite fit enough. Oz players were so much quicker it's ridiculous. Lambie and Aplon ftw!

  • djg - 2011-08-15 15:25

    maybe weight watchers wont allow him to play

  • dribble - 2011-08-15 15:30

    i was never a frans steyn fan...i thought he was an arrogant pompas prick...but having said that he is the only person i would feel comfortable with having the no 15 jersey. yes he did not have a great game but who did?? but when the chips were down and hes was the only one left to take down Rocky Elsom( i ithink it was him) he stood his ground and took the man aplon fan i am but alon would have been trampled....a lambie fan i am not but he would have been trampled as 2 cents

      jk - 2011-08-15 15:32

      dribble- if he was arrogant(we dont know him personally), then he had/still got the talent to back it up. You cannot go from brilliant to bad- you have the genes or not. i would also put aplon in...

      bakkebul - 2011-08-15 15:44

      dribble - I think Aplon would have made that tackle. Frans did well though.

      Sarge - 2011-08-15 15:52

      Lambie would have also made that tackle and a lot more!!!

      jk - 2011-08-15 16:01

      always easy to talk afterwards...

      Mojojo - 2011-08-15 16:23

      Aplon would have made that tackle. That said, both our Full Backs, Steyn and Aplon had a bad day. Personally I think that Steyn and Aplon should be the only 2 considered for this position, and Lambie for fly half. I like the kid, but in the S15 Quarters, 2 tries were scored because he did not have the maturity to know when to come up into the line. I still like Lambie though, but for Flyhalf. The kids got Talent. Of that there is no doubt.

      Andrew - 2011-08-15 16:48

      I would have made that tackle, but would probably still be in intensive care.

      Andrew - 2011-08-16 03:23

      I met Frans a few times, and he is definitely not arrogant, maybe he left because he was afraid of becoming another professional “versatile” player, same as Ruan Pienaar, Brent Russel, Gaffie du Toit etc. He played Flyhalf, Inside and outside centre, Wing and Full back. I still think he is a better inside centre than full back, some of the YouTube clips show his class, that is only my opinion though.

  • Dries - 2011-08-15 16:11

    Whats the chances of Peter Grant to be called up to the boks. He's in beter form than Morne

      jk - 2011-08-15 16:18


      Mojojo - 2011-08-15 16:27

      100% with you here Dries. I still feel that Lambie and Grant are the best for Flyhalf this year. Butch made another 2 no arms tackles which on another day could have resulted in a yellow card, and besides, both Grant and Lambie are better than him anyway. That said, based on current form, Morne Steyn should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Lambie and Grant.

      wombles - 2011-08-15 16:58

      don't insult bash by using steyntjie's name in same sentence grant 85% success rate tackles and can cover inside centre

  • JVR - 2011-08-15 16:34

    That is not the real reason. Steyn is overweight and his hair is too long to see the attackers.

  • 106SA - 2011-08-15 16:40

    Fattie boom boom Steyn

  • remco mons - 2011-08-15 17:05

    If bok coaches had Fransie in the fullback position since day 1, we would have had a Rolls Royce of a fullback like Andre Joubert in the middle 90's. Let's get rid of Habana and de Villiers in midfield: they play predictably and the opposition will never make a long pass when they're around, thus they can't intercept and score anymore. Play Bismarck first 60 minutes and use Smit only when necessary... and we might have a chance to go past second stage in the RWC.

  • Agent - 2011-08-15 17:11

    He should never haver been selected in the first place he looks like a hooligan with the hairstyle.

  • Aabels - 2011-08-15 17:53

    Superfit All Blacks by 10 this coming weekend.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-15 18:27

      I think the All Blacks will win on Saturday. But who cares. It is only Tri Nations in a World cup year

  • - 2011-08-16 04:29

    Get some comic rugby songs - quality recordings with excellent musicians - on free download off my whacky website - . There's high res versions there too, which you can easily burn a CD from . All 3 have had radio play before and one of them has had radio play in South Africa - that's "Rugby - it makes me the man i am "....and yes, it is as silly as it sounds. But most people like it. There's also 'Waltzing the Football' which had radio play all around Australia in the 2003 World Cup. Though anyone - not just Aussies - can sing it ( great traditional German tune ) . Should be more music about rugby - at home - et the grounds - radio ?

  • Raeez - 2011-08-16 09:40

    He should get some tips by Benni on how to lose a bit of weight. Vet g@t. Bring in Jaco Toate! Infact just select the whole Lions team

  • BB - 2011-08-16 09:45

    Oor sy hare geval? of Hare is sy oe gewees, kon nie sien nie? of Was hy besig om sy hare te kam toe hy getackle was? hhaahah Bad/Sorry maar ons het hom nodig gehad.

  • jan du preeaz - 2011-08-16 18:09

    same for habana and kie boet

  • StangV2_0 - 2011-08-18 12:28

    Get better F Steyn. We gonna need you. More than any of these fools know. Maybe even more than you or your coaching staff think.

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