'NZ getting away with murder'

2010-07-18 16:24

Adnaan Mohamed

Wellington – Springbok lock Victor Matfield believes that the All Black captain Richie McCaw and their fly-half Dan Carter are getting away with murder.

Matfield was speaking after the Springboks 31-17 defeat at the hands of the All Blacks at the Westpac stadium in Wellington on Saturday.

“It seems as if they are untouchable. The refs allow them to get away with murder,” a disappointed Matfield said afterwards.

“It’s sad, but I still don’t believe that Danie (Rossouw) deserved a yellow card.

 “I cannot say much about the ref (Alain Rolland), because I will get into trouble. But there were a few times on attack when we struggled to play because our ball was deliberately slowed down,” said Matfield.

The 97 Test match veteran believes the laws at the breakdowns are not applied the same in the Tri-Nations as it was in the Super 14.

“In the Super 14 things were interpreted a bit differently. We will have to do a bit of video work on the refs to see how we can adapt. We will also have to look at ourselves,” he said.

“Everything is about decision making and securing quick ball. If we can get quick ball and more numbers at the breakdowns, we will be able to convert it into points.

“Against a team like the All Blacks you cannot afford to play with 14 men, especially if it happens early on in a game. It gives them momentum and self confidence and puts us under pressure. I still don’t know why Danie (Rossouw) was yellow carded. We will have to go back and look at it again. Danie himself was very surprised when he was yellow carded.”

Matfield believes it is necessary to at least get one victory from the overseas leg of the Tri-Nations, if they still want to remain in the running in the competition.

“It is a big game for us because we have never won in Brisbane before. It’s never easy to come back from two losses. But the guys know what is expected of them because they have done it before,” he added.


  • Hilda van der Merwe - 2010-07-18 16:59

    Stem 100% saam, wat maak hulle beter as ons vir 'n GEEL kaart. Go Bokke Go, and show the Ausies we are still the strongest. Have a great week

  • davey - 2010-07-18 17:00

    Stop being a cry baby. Rossouw deserved the card (though so did Ranger),but the AB's were stronger,faster,more cohesive,and tactically superior to our kick and run veterans. We are playing with poor numbers 1,2,3,9,11,12 and 14-half the team.

  • hein Cent - 2010-07-18 17:14

    I think Sarvu management and not Oregan Hoskins must take this up with the IRB . This is not the first time that this is happening , clearly the is double standards and if the IRB can only be more spesific about how they will blow a Sprinbok team. If they can be more spesific on their double standards, we can play accordingly.

  • Anton - 2010-07-18 17:15

    Ai another Bull .Thats why they are known as bullies in the game of rugby.

  • BLOUBUL - 2010-07-18 17:16

    Matfield was nowhere in the game, he was ambling all over the show, back pedalling.

  • Emile - 2010-07-18 17:18

    McCaw warned 5 times and no yellow card. Bakkies Botha not warned once and gets sent off (forget about the head butt). Rossouw never warned and frankly didn't do anything, gets sent off. Ranger almost shouldered the living daylights out of Zane, nothing happens. De Villiers, one of the cleanest players in world rugby, gets a 2 week suspension for a spear tackle. On replay, there was really nothing in it, although it could be "interpreted" as half a spear tackle I suppose. Now I ask with tears in my eyes: What the fu@# is going on in rugby!!! It is not fair play and someone (SARU) now needs to step in. Rugby is becoming a joke. I'm not watching Tri-Nations any further, as it is quite evident that the Boks are being targeted. Shouldn't happen in any sport.

  • Fed up - 2010-07-18 17:20

    I think it is time to recall all the current Boks and send an U23 team to complete the rest of the tri nations. We can call it rebuilding for the world cup. Let the current players try and get into their respective Currie Cup teams and learn the basics. Send all the dirty players back to club level to teach them that dirty play will not be tolerated and they are not needed at the highest level of the competition.

  • Norman - 2010-07-18 17:22

    The All Blacks played at a much faster pace and never kicked the ball away like the Bok's.Victor,John and Ricky pipe looked like they just escaped from an old age home.They were just too slow!As great a captain as John Smit is it is time to bring in new blood.Geo also needs to stand in for Brian until the golden boy attains some hunger - he looks like he would much rather be on a Cape Town beach with his new wife.

  • whatbull - 2010-07-18 17:28

    Both teams got 9 penalties against them. In the two test together 13 against the Boks and 23 against the Blacks... now on whose side are the refs?? Now Matfield pulls Carter into the fold with McCaw? Its pure jealosy as the Boks have no one to match those two. Boks were played off their feet by 8 tries to 2. Of those 8 tries 7 by the backs and NOT ONE by the Bok backs.

  • Markie - 2010-07-18 17:35

    Lets put all of this SH*&%$ behind us now and go slaughter the Ausies, because we are still the world champs. COME ON BOYS, LET WIN THE TRI NATIONS FROM HERE WE CAN

  • scud - 2010-07-18 17:40

    Matfield was nowhere-he could not even catch AB kick offs. Our entire front row has no steel. In simple English,the All Blacks bullied the Boks on 2 consecutive weekends. When we did get the ball it was slow,clumsy,with lots of handling errors and aimless kicking. Victor and John were all time greats but are over the hill.

  • Ex Ref - 2010-07-18 17:43

    @ Davey - just shows how little you know about the rules of rugby. Rossouw should not have been yellow carded, but should have been warned and had a penalty awarded against him if that was the refs interpretation of the fraca.

  • Staalburgher - 2010-07-18 18:01

    I am sorry but you posters are getting carried away with 'how well the ABs played'. Yes, Bakkies was stupid in first test and should've been sent off anyway. Yes, the ABs did play well. But otherwise we were not that far off the pace in the 2nd Test. How do you people expect us to play against the All Blacks when we get a yellow card everytime? The point is we can't, nobody can. Same as they will get smashed if it happens to them. We got smashed in the 2nd Test purely because of that ridiculous decision. I am not saying we would definitely have won but losing by a few points and picking up a bonus point is much more reflective of the true situation. To now state that the Boks are useless and our tactics wrong is being very simple-minded. Hell, Carter kicked up-and-unders several times in the 2nd Test. It is viable tactic even they used. The only difference is we were chasing the game the entire 80 minutes because of that muppet, cheese-eating Frenchman, both because of the yellow card and the breakdown interpretation. Last year they were chasing the game against us and look where they ended.

  • davey - 2010-07-18 18:19

    @ex-ref. Absolute nonsense,what sort of ref were you? If you kick somebody in the head,whether hard or soft,its a astraight yellow. We are a great rugby playing nation,but somehow NZ always show us up to be crybabies when we lose.

  • andy - 2010-07-18 18:21

    if butch james made that shoulder charge i guarantee he would have been red carded , cited and given 6 months suspension . lets put him in with instructions to do the same and see the result.

  • Arthur - 2010-07-18 18:49

    Just waiting for the No Front Teeth South African All Black supporters to come on now

  • Kevin Leo-Smith - 2010-07-18 18:53

    Pieter de Villiers must go and buy a whole pack of the same "get out of a yellow card free" cards that the All Blacks have as it is beginning to look like there are ref's for hire - which will turn rugby into the same situation as soccer has found itself in the past with refs fixing matches. Whatbull - your statement In the two test together 13 against the Boks and 23 against the Blacks... now on whose side are the refs?? - this included 3 warnings to McCaw - so your stats prove that lack of yellows for the All Blacks and not the point you think you were making

  • Frans - 2010-07-18 19:04

    Ag pleez get over your self and start playing rugby. Last year the Boks and Nigel Owens were a mean team and you laughed when the AB'S and Wallabies were complaining about the most ludicrous decisions. Remember the current rule interpretations expects a team to play and not wait for mistakes like last season.

  • jerry - 2010-07-18 19:06

    ex-ref,are you saying that the ref was not only biased,he also doesnt know the laws of rugby? Come off it-stop being a sore loser We wuz whipped

  • Mark Nettmann - 2010-07-18 19:41

    Staalburgher - you speak the truth, but you put it too nicely - the ones doubting the bokke are bloody agents. Bloody agents.

  • Lu - 2010-07-18 19:50

    John Smit acknowledged in an interview after the game that the players needed to work on discipline etc. The fact remains the ref wasn't consistent with his decisions!!! The All Blacks were the better team on the day, but I support the Springboks all the way - Proudly South African!!!

  • Ingwe - 2010-07-18 20:24

    Whiney, whiney, whiney. The Bok supporters spend so much time going on about winging Poms yet it seems to me they are the biggest bunch of cry babies who always whine about the ref when their precious team loses. It has become a national institution, blame anyone for their loss give but don't give credit where credit is due, get over it the AB’s played a better game and deserved both wins.

  • Oubaassehonne - 2010-07-18 20:42

    Ingwe. Please, can you write proper English. Your sentences do not read well. It's like living in NZ when I read your stuff. Painful. Its easy to blame Bok supporters for complaining about useless refs, but all forgot about the AB's bitch@ng about the ref when France kicked their sorry behinds out of the 2007 WC. I'll rather complain about the idiot refs now. The AB's will do so after next year's world cup.

  • I sse it and tell it as it is - 2010-07-18 21:20

    Hey Ingwe, if you didn't watch the biasedly ref'd match then don't comment. If you did and you still believe it was fair play from the ref then your judgement is total skewed buddy. Alan Rolland had the worst game by a ref in the modern game 1)McCheat was laying all over the bok ball at ruck time like a chicken on an egg 2) if mcCheat wasn't on the bok ball he obstructed their support players from getting to the breakdown and allowing the All Cheats to steal the ball 3) if that didn't McCheat and the All Cheats tackled the scrum half while still lying on the wrong side of the ruck - and still no YC or penalty from Rolland. How many times did he warn McCheat that the next offence is a player to the bin - still not YC for the All Cheats. Added to that the completely mystifiable YC to Danie Roussouw after McCheat punched him in the groin, Rolland shoudl be baaned for 18months international ref duties and all of you who sing the praises of how great the All Cheats suddenly are should seriously go see a doctor because either your eyes or your brain is malfunctioning. Even S.Fitzpatrick said on sky after the game and I quote "the ref had a bad game, completely inconsistent. As a former All Blacks captain I am telling you now McGaw (Mc Cheat) should have been sin binned at least 3 or 4 times in that game". Even the former All Cheats captain is embarassed at the levels McCheat andCo. had to stoop to to get a win over SA. Truly their "dominance is gone" they now have to cheat and Rolland helped them. Their seems to be a favour for favour system between Ireland and New Zealand - remember Dodgy Honis in 2004 Ireland.

  • Ian - 2010-07-18 21:23

    @Oubaassehonne. I can can see your not exactly an English major. useless refs, but all forgot about the AB's LOL

  • Makes Sense - 2010-07-18 21:33


  • Rob - 2010-07-18 22:06

    Just a simple observation from NZ why does Peter De Villiers always get his wife to do the Voice overs for the Press Conferences? Get a real man to speak! or whinge

  • ET - 2010-07-18 23:22

    Ag please no excuses guys, the bokke sucks and they suck bad.

  • Fairview - 2010-07-18 23:26

    With no time to read the comments of others - let's be blatent: I always wondered at those who didn't like McCaw - until I opened my eyes... Is this mere human a "God"?? But, McCaw wasn't the ref. I believe the AB's should have won by their play. Why do we allow a ref to hash up so much? Objectively, don't care who's toes I graunch, N-H have always been out-dated re: rules. What was ref ever involved in tri-nations for?? Sick. More will come of this.

  • Mike - 2010-07-18 23:29

    For all you whinning Boks. You hold the title of the dirtiest rugby players. You can now also officially take the title of the most sore losers. A title that was proudly held by the Aussies for a long time. Get over it, you were outplayed in all facets of the game. Drastic action is needed, or you will continue down this path of has beens!

  • Birdman - 2010-07-19 00:20

    The next time the Boks are penalised with a card for a questionable decision like that, John Smit should walk up to the ref and tell him to back off or else his team walks from the field. Sounds rediculous, but this conspiracy against the Boks is no joke anymore. The only way to end the IRB's vendetta against the Boks is to let the shit hit the fan! It's no wonder that fans run onto the field and tackle the refs.

  • Blah blah blah! - 2010-07-19 00:33

    Sure enough the referee was pathetic and yes it is a disgrace that McCaw gets away with his cheating BUT what’s up by mentioning Carter? What did Carter do wrong except for kicking like sh#t and by doing that saved the pathetic Boks from losing even further. Stop complaining and do the talking on the field. The Boks sounds more and more like the Aussies and that is bad! Start building a “new” team to win the 2011 WC as this team won’t even reach the semis. Get, whoever he is, the defensive coach from WP/Stormers to sort out the pathetic Bok defence seeing that he is obviously doing a wonderful job in Cape Town. Then get someone from the Bulls to teach the team about scoring tries and being motivated. Give players like Habana, de Villiers, Steyn, Smit, Matfield, Louw and Spies 1 final go against the Aussies. Whoever fails that test, win or lose, should be dropped for the home leg of the Tri-Nations. Forget about quotas. It is not just Januarie that played bad. Chilliboy is even better than Smit at the moment. Get Potgieter into the team from the start or give him 30 minutes, we need his mongrel attitude and start Kankowski at 8 who at least have the basic skills of an international no 8.

  • Steve - 2010-07-19 00:43

    I agree with Emile. Yes the Boks were outplayed at times but when McCaw and carter get away with blatant infingements you have to ask yourself Are they favoured by the ref or are the Boks just being targetted to bring them back down. I feel refs should be held to account for their bad decisons and maybe suspended or even fined like the players. Saturdays ref was an absolute joke. Wake up IRB. Is it possible that the ref decides before the game who is to win the game???? Makes you think.

  • RB - 2010-07-19 00:55

    The boks game style has not changed and running rugby is back (at last) Now PDV is on his own and cannot ride on Whites team that he built. He is not a rubgy tactician neither a coach. Even if the ref made some dodgy decisions, the boks were far outplayed by a mile. (i.e not a 3 pointer) The so called bok invincibility has been shown that its not, and now look at all the whinging....far from the amount of whinging when the All Blacks loose thats for sure.

  • PW - 2010-07-19 03:06

    I have been very concerned about the reffing particularly during the Super 14. The refs on the whole were terrible with Mark Lawrence by a good distance the most accurate and consistent. I also recall how badly McCaw was nailed this past Super 14 by the refs and it was very clear that many of the kiwi players were not getting the new rules and yet SA players were. It seems quite the reverse now. The ABs get it and the Boks don't. It was also quite obvious the new rules were meant to stop McCaw, the best fetcher in the world at that point. And it worked! I don't know which game the rest of you were watching but Rolland DID penalise the ABs and McCaw in particular for slowing the ball down when the Boks were in scoring position about 3 times. Yellow card? Maybe. But Richie was warned and pushed the limit but did not go over. In other words the ABs are back and Boks, particularly Matfield must stop whinging. My god, he is a super player but they were seriously outplayed! When they kept the ball in hand (and got rid of the kicking the new rules have been meant to kill by the way) they threatened but were unable to convert due to their own mistakes. Oh and 'Makes Sense', "A REFEREE IS COMPELLED TO PLAY A FAIR GAME". REALLY!?? Remember Wayne Barnes? ABs vs France..Forward Pass..Barnes standing right in line with it maybe 2.5 metres way..No Call..Completely ignored it...Coming back to you now?

  • Ai Rui Sheng - 2010-07-19 03:20

    Since when did an attempted eye-gouge deserve a warning?

  • Jonny - 2010-07-19 04:42

    Typical... South Africans blaming everyone else but their own team. Face it... your Boks got beaten comprehensively in both tests.... that's what I call a pasting, a thrashing, a wasting, a total demolition

  • Hannes - 2010-07-19 05:39

    Rossouw should thanks Bakkies and Pieter de Villers for this yellow card. In the past week the Boks lost their reputation (again) and is now seen as the Bad Boys of World Rugby. A situation entirely of their own making. Referees presume that the Boks are guilty until proven innocent. If PdV replace Bakkies immediately after the head butt (before the referee had a chance to yellow card Bakkies for a minor infrincement) he would have send a powerful message to World Rugby and the Boks' reputation could have been saved. The Boks cannot complain if they are on the wrong end of a stick that they picked for hemselves.

  • kiwi in oz - 2010-07-19 06:08

    McCaw should have been sin binned. Definitely. Roussow should have only been warned. Absolutely. Would the result be different? Possibly but the ABs played with more cohesion and intensity than the Boks . . . I think the result may have been closer but the better team on the day won. As a side note - don't get too excited by a fresh young player getting the better of some tired players at the end of a game. Daggs try was great to watch, but he isn't a new Cullen just yet!

  • Ingwe - 2010-07-19 06:52

    As far as I remember Allain Roland was the ref when the Boks beat England in the RWC 2007 final I did not hear too much moaning about him then. To all you Bok supporters who always blame the ref when you lose you are nothing but a bunch of cry babies. Even your brain dead coach blames the ref instead of his crazy team selections. Just a bunch of sore losers who believe the hype about their team and look for any excuse when they lose. Remember when the Boks lost to France it was because the way the national anthem was played. Man up you were beaten by a better team, it happens.

  • Frans - 2010-07-19 07:03

    To my dear Makes Sense; you reckon! Shame you are going to eat humble pie.

  • Burgiesburnin - 2010-07-19 07:21

    South Africa now has a new national sport. As well as soccer, rugby and cricket, moaning about the ref [after a loss] is the new one. Get over it and grow up. This is what SA do the best. Lots of BIG JAWS before this competition saying how easy it would be. BIG JAWS DON'T WIN GAMES. No one owes you lot anything, your just not good enough.

  • J - 2010-07-19 07:35

    Ingwe you idiot! Did you even watch the game? Do your homework before making pathetic comments!

  • Ian - 2010-07-19 07:37

    @Burgiesburnin 100@ agree with you. The trouble is I think it has become the No. 1 sport. By the way does anyone know who the ref is for Saturday's game just so the moaners can start now.

  • morne - 2010-07-19 07:51

    Get rid off Januarie and Pienaar both of them are crap and not dping anything for the backs all they are doing is kick away good ball PDV also need to get back to basics we have no game plan or defensice line

  • Mike The Sports Guy - 2010-07-19 08:01

    The reality here is that we are two games down and need to win the next match to stay in the tournament. Have we been here before? Think 2003! Horrible season for SA rugby. Lets look at our team, lets look at where we can improve. Firstly, I don't think we really have the depth that we assume that we have. Scrumhalf has been undermined a few times, Devilliers insists on playing Januarie or Pienaar when Kokkott is by far the most exciting player we have seen since Joost. John Smit has been a great captain but maybe its time to hang up the boots. Brian Habana needs to make way for Gio Aplon. Why isn't Beast starting? So there are some fundementals that the coach needs to look at. Our achilles heel is our speed to react, it's slow at best. "Quick hands" is something we've heard comentators say but have no clue how to execute. As for the second test, the ref was inconsistent. How many warnings does a player have to get before he gets a yellow card? (Mc Caw), No arms tackles, I counted four, most notably the one on Kirchner, no yellow. The infringement by Rosouw should have carried the same sanction, a caution. So yes, the ref did make some bad calls, and yes that did drag the team's morale into the mud. Regardless, our guys should be able to have enough confidence to read the ref and rise above these sort of set backs.

  • hasie - 2010-07-19 08:09

    Victor was een van die sterre wat geval het in al 2 die toetse!!! Dit wil vir my voorkom of hy ook net soos Habana en van die ander ook net kan goed speel terwyl hulle wen, as hulle begin verloor is dit verby, so maak maar vir ou Schalkie die kaptein.

  • Philip - 2010-07-19 08:16

    As a South African, all the comments based on colour, selection and the coach are just hot air from empty vessels of which we seem to have a lot. But there are a few facts here that have got lost. We were (rightly) excluded from the RWC 1987 and 1991 during which the AB and the wallabies got a win each. In 1995 we won, 1999 and 2003 were not good for Springbok rugby but we won in 2007 again. We have therefore won half the WC tournaments we have competed in. Without wishing to make a political statement it was rugby that was isolated through sanctions NOT the Springboks. In my view this is the real source of vitriole from the New Zealanders (and Aussies). We are not bullies, we are just the best rugby country on earth and the facts support it. The refs can be rubbish, the press can be anti, the opposition insulting and everything else you can throw at us. But we stand up as the best rugby nation on the planet and the facts support it. Now all you Aussies and Kiwi's just stand there in awe of the facts because next year we are going to keep what is rightfully ours and then you can whinge and moan like the cotton wool coated bunch of wallies that you really are.

  • Garfield - 2010-07-19 08:17

    and when things change when THE BOKS plays in SA then you will hear nothing of the ref this and the ref that. Like what happened last Tri Nation because of stupid decisions by the refs. You heard nothing cause THE BOKS won....Nobody comments that THE BOKS played spoilt rugby to keep the All Blacks score low...

  • Mveve - 2010-07-19 08:18

    Emile has called it as it was; Now burn the ref's house down and get on with the game.