Misconduct charge against Div

2010-07-29 21:00

Johannesburg - SANZAR has issued a notice of alleged misconduct against Springbok coach Peter de Villiers following comments he made on Australia's Fox Sports 'Rugby Club' programme on July 21.

SANZAR wrote to SA Rugby on July 22 in relation to the comments. 

De Villiers claimed the All Blacks' two recent Tri-Nations victories over the Springboks - 32-12 in Auckland and 31-17 in Wellington - were part of a conspiracy aimed at generating support before next year's Rugby World Cup tournament in New Zealand.

De Villiers, who was been highly critical of the refereeing in both the Auckland and Wellington Tests, said in a television interview that: ''I've got my own observations about the last two Tests, and I can't say it in public, but we do have a World Cup in New Zealand next year, and maybe it was the right thing for them to win the games so they can attract more people to the tournament next year.''

Having discussed the matter with De Villiers on his return to South Africa after last weekend's Tri-Nations match against Australia in Brisbane, SA Rugby has now provided a response.

SANZAR Chief Executive Steve Tew said: "Having considered the response from South Africa we have determined that Peter de Villiers's comments may constitute a breach of the SANZAR Code of Conduct and warrant further consideration by a SANZAR Judicial Officer."

A SANZAR appointed Judicial Officer will conduct a hearing in the next week with details to be advised.

The South African Rugby Union (Saru) sent a press release out on Thursday noting the above documented allegation of misconduct brought by SANZAR against Peter de Villiers, and saying they will make no further comment until the judicial process has run its course.

Saru did, however, issue a statement on 23 July in which De Villiers clarified his remarks and categorically denied that he had said the All Blacks were being favoured because New Zealand were going to host the World Cup.

“I have stated many times during the past weeks that the All Blacks were better than us in their victories in Auckland and Wellington. Whilst I have also expressed unhappiness over some refereeing issues, this is a separate matter altogether and has no bearing on what I said.

“My comment during the Rugby Club interview was based on the general view that part of the success of any World Cup event rests on the fact that the host nation has a winning team.

“This view has been misinterpreted and I wish to make it clear that I had no other intention than to make that specific point. Nevertheless, I regret that this may have created the wrong impression and raised undue concern for Sanzar and the RWC 2011 organisers.”


  • Bongo - 2010-07-29 21:23

    Expect nothing less from a go Snor !!!!!

  • BB RUGS - 2010-07-29 21:25

    Kry vir jou snorre

  • Charlie - 2010-07-29 21:32

    What a heap of junck when all the man said was what we were feeling and in some cases even more if we had the chance to have a mouth base like he has. I think that most of the supporters in SA feel the same way and that is that Ref at this point in time only see what the Bok's do wrong and in most cases no warning just a yellow. Why is it not the same for the other teams maybe they should investigate that and have the Ref on the stand for the truth commision and to explain there calls in full and why. DIV WE STAND BEHIND YOU

  • George - 2010-07-29 21:32

    With any luck they will give him an eight match suspension !

  • Kaballas - 2010-07-29 21:33

    Whatever.......... dis die auzzie allblack conspiracy om ons te probeer afbreek voor hulle hier hul gat anyways kom sien. Hulle is skerp ek moet dit vir hulle gee. Hulle gaan aanhou deur die jaar om ons planne te ontwrig, Hou dit dop. Hulle is kak bang vir ons volgende jaar.

  • Rusty - 2010-07-29 21:34

    Ban him for life PLEASE!!!!!

  • Neilson - 2010-07-29 21:42

    What we REALLY need is a Misconduct charge against two certain Irish referees.

  • BLOUBUL - 2010-07-29 21:43


  • Johno - 2010-07-29 21:48

    What the betting his judge will be one of his cronies and the stupid idiot gets clean away with it

  • Steven - New Zealand - 2010-07-29 21:49

    About time they shut this guy up. Fine him and fire him.

  • Trevor - 2010-07-29 21:54

    Wonderful. I suppose this will mean that all the video evidence of the fair play will have to be reviewed by the Judicial officer. Hopefully that officer will have an eye open when reviewing the evidence!

  • james - 2010-07-29 21:55

    His mouth runs away with his brains.

  • DB - 2010-07-29 21:58

    Typical. Criticize the ref and it's your fault. They should not be this untouchable.

  • JP - 2010-07-29 22:06

    We have 2 clowns with the Springboks Clown 1 : P divvy Clown 2 Zane Crusty the clown" Kirschner. Get rid of these clowns

  • Ref - 2010-07-29 22:07

    Yes Div that is what you get for saying anything about the brotherhood of gods. They would rather attack you than their little friend with the whistle. The refs will remain untouchable for the sake of "conduct". Such a joke. I wonder to what extend the sponsors are in on this? Do they approve of rugby being managed like this? Four weeks for Jacque, but only two weeks for Cooper? Clowns.

  • Grant - 2010-07-29 22:19

    Right, who's year is it for ruling SANZAR, New Zealand! Figure's! Helium Piet was still a clown for opening his mouth though. We need a decent coach and soon, Jake, Heineke and Rassie are waiting.

  • Lekker - 2010-07-29 22:21

    Nail him!! He deserves this. Never has there been a clown like this in our rugby fraternity ever, We had bad coaches, but bad mixed with clown, nail him!! For f!#% sake, please just fire him - he is a total disgrace for our country. We had an exceptional fantastic SWC where the whole world realised that we are not just a back street country but in fact a world class country - and then PV enters the stadium. PdV, you will always only be remembered for the LAST thing you did!! PdV are a hero in the eyes of NZ and the Aussies because you are their biggest 'mate' helping them winning the RWC next year. PV ,

  • Harrybaby - 2010-07-29 22:30

    This gentleman is becoming a major embarassment to South African Rugby. Surely somethingcan be done to control these outlandish comments. it makes one wonder about Div's decision making process after reading this.

  • ROB THE KIWI - 2010-07-29 22:45

    From a Kiwi perspective Please leave DIV where he is. We just love his coaching non style.We definetly want him in charge of the BOKS next year. We also really enjoy the added xtras you get with DIV ie The Clown Acts, The voice impersanations, The Fact that he has a new fairy tail for every opposistion team that he faces. This man will go down in the annuals of rugby history, he will never be forgotten LEST WE FORGET!!

  • WAIT4IT - 2010-07-29 23:04


  • Dave Naude - 2010-07-29 23:15

    It is sad to say that world rugby has become like this. I support P de Villiers 100%. The refs are busy to target SA. Any normal person that understands the laws, can see it. Yes the Bokke didnt play like they should have, but any team will be in the dumps if they blow them the same as they blow SA. One example: Look at McCaw. How many times must he be warned. How many times did NZ played the ball on the ground. If it was an SA player. JA!!!!! Then look at Cohan at the start of the match with the Bakkies incident. If the ref blew Cohan when the incident happened, Bakkies would not have done what he did. I would say, if a ref can be pointed out after the game that he made a mistake, he must be banned and fined like the players. Then only will they handle the game fairly. The refs has to much power now and for that reason are they doing what they are doing because they get away with it. And this will just carry on and on. Thank you for the time. Dave Naude.

  • TonyM - 2010-07-29 23:22

    SANZAR have missed this by a mile and this will blow back to hurt them even further. Their energies are misdirected as SANZAR are complicit and culpable in the appalling refereeing that took place and their tacit refusal to remedy this lack of professionalism - so of course it can be interpreted in multiple ways - including the possibility that the NZRU are on the ropes with the Rugby World Cup being too high priced and an unmitigated financial flop. Peter de Villiers is not in the wrong here - it is SANZAR's tawdry application of the standards of refereeing. They have allowed the standards to slip and refereeing to be inconsistent.

  • Richard - 2010-07-29 23:25

    So now Helium finds out that the brothers who protect him in South Africa are not the gods of the whole world.

  • Hen Derkse - 2010-07-29 23:37

    Dis erg genoeg as die media die ref blameer, maar hoe onprofessioneel kan 'n nasionale afrigter wees om sy floppe af te maak as 'n sameswering tussen internasionale skeidsregters en NZ rugby unie. Die man is 'n grap, en hy laat ons almal soos 'n klomp narre lyk. Gly Div nou wragtag dat sy afrigting skills die bokke daardie games sou wen met enige ander ref.

  • johno - 2010-07-29 23:54

    De Villiers is an idiot, just like the Aussie commentator said. He should keep his mouth shut and let those who know about rugby get on with the job. Pity the Aussie was forced to apologise for telling the truth. Of course De Villiers will blame the media, as always...

  • Mike B - 2010-07-30 00:11

    Don't hold your breath. S A Rugby will support De Villiers to the death. To hell that he has reduced South African rugby to the lowest ever level and that it is now the laughing stock of the world. They don't care as long as they are in charge and get their fat pay cheques at the end of the month. De Villiers takes the "small man" syndrome to another level. It is really sad to see a proud nation brought down to this and let's wait for the comments that I am sure will come and you can see just how low the country has stooped.

  • Johnno - 2010-07-30 00:24

    Good! Just because these AA apointments can get away with anything in SA because they can't be touched, doesn't mean they can get away with it in the rest of the world. He is out of his depth and once he has embarrased SA rugby completely and made us the laughing stock of world rugby, SARU might appoint someone who can actually do the job and the Springboks can take their place again with pride instead of embarrassment.

  • Henk - 2010-07-30 00:45

    Give him YELLOW or should it be RED.......don't know now ,for a moment....!!

  • ROB THE KIWI - 2010-07-30 00:55

    I note that the Forbes list for the Worlds Happiest countires are out You will be pleased to note NZ 6TH Australia 8th . South Africa came in at 73rd place and heading down. We can all tell how unhappy you lot are from the way you write on these boards. So much hatred and Vennom ,cant take a loss dont know how to lose gracefully. My thoughts for you cheer up you will come right one day. Here is the link for you

  • Reds - 2010-07-30 01:05

    Its amazing that this weekend's game bewteen the All Blacks and Wallabies are been ref by a South African. How come its not REf by a Northern Hemisphere Ref. For this Tri-Nation Series all the games should be Ref by the Northern Hemisphere Refs so that there is some sort of consistancy. When SA play the All Blacks we have another NH Ref. On paper is definately looks like there is some preference to other teams at the moment.

  • PDivvy - 2010-07-30 01:27

    How many times would they have had to replay what was said - Lets be honest who can make hide or tail of what this oke says? I would not go as far as to say there is a conspiracy but the refereeing was certainly skewed...SA are still playing badly and should have certainly lost all games and I would suggest a new approach is certainly required. Oh...when he is ready, bring back Brussouw - the new rules demand a top class fetcher and one that can play close to 'the line' as our antipodean compatriots so fondly refer to when defending Richie McAwsome. The other worrying thing is the depth that was spoken of last year when we were on top of the rugby world appears to have a little less depth than thought at international level? This has been exposed by all the injuries and suspensions...Whatever happens to PDivvy please don't break out the arm bands, its as bad as they poisoned us!!!

  • sean - 2010-07-30 01:29

    SANZAR ! `` You bloody agents`` !!! Why , what did PDV do wrong ?? Aren`t CLOWNS suppose to be funny ?? Why doesn`t Saru appoint a bergie as the next coach , as long as he is not white !

  • Bok fan - 2010-07-30 01:42

    Considering the 3 warnings given to McCaw and no yellow cards I'm not surprised by PDV's statement. The Boks are down granted but there were real evident inconsistencies in the reffing. Our boys weren't even given warnings. McCaw breaks and enters the ruck from the side, he joins the front row of scrumming as another prop and openly admits to pushing the boundaries to lie within the sanctuary of the ref's mood for the day. Not impressed at all with the reffing. Instead of looking at PDV's comments, the IRB should be looking at how huge the grey areas in rugby have increased.

  • glennm - 2010-07-30 02:56

    As much as I dislike the NZ and AUS teams I agree on this one. Dont blame the refs. Its plain and simple. You are out of your league and there is currently no game plan because you have no idea of how to implement one. So the easiest way out is to blame the refs. Sign of poor losers.

  • madarab hasab omb - 2010-07-30 03:09

    This is just racism. SANZAR are only picking on DIV because he’s black. The Springboks need a better quota system to ensure more proportional representation of South Africans. Attacking the black participants like this wont help matters. Why are there so many white faces in the boks when 90% of the country is not white?

  • Chris in Oz - 2010-07-30 03:32

    Will this clown's antics ever stop embarrassing SA Rugby and their supporters. It's time to fire him. Where is Louis Luyt and his fax machine?

  • Robert - 2010-07-30 03:50

    Fire him. He is a misfit not worthy of wearing the green and gold. Once again, where did he get his qualifications?

  • RBT - 2010-07-30 04:02

    Surely SANZAR couldn't have taken PDV's comments seriously. He talks nonsense all the time - so why would his latest fanciful theory about the world cup be anything other than the ramblings of a man totally out of his depth.

  • Rugby Fan - 2010-07-30 04:36

    Div, .., & you thought they were calling you names before! LOL!!!

  • George - 2010-07-30 05:21

    I fully agree with DIv, why do the Aussies and Kiwis always get shorter sentences. It is time that someone from SA Rugby stands up against SANZAR. Go DIV ... you have our support and thanks for standing up for SA Rugby

  • Klaus Bohm - 2010-07-30 05:22

    SANZAR must wake up and smell the coffee! The referees should not be wrapped in cotton-wool as they are!! There should be a refereeing panel whose findings are made public after every match. After all, we, the rugby viewing public, make an important contribution to rugby - we PAY to see our teams play. There should be accountability to us as well!

  • Clive Goss - 2010-07-30 05:22

    Suck FANZAR and the horses they rode in on.They can rather go and recruit refs that will "blow" in the spirit of the game and we can lose fairly

  • Mark Dubai - 2010-07-30 05:28

    Frankly - there is a conspiracy by the refs against South Africa - come on guys - its not just these last 3 tests - remember the Welsh Doos, Clive Norling - in 1981 final test in NZ - deeeeep into @refs@ time - an inexplicable penalty to giveNZ the match and series...dont be so naieve to think the rest of the world like SA. They like the money we generate for them - period. They dont like South Africa, it's people or its Rugby. Wake UP! I see it all the time - as a South African living in Dubai on a temporary basis.

  • Ash - 2010-07-30 05:54

    It was only a matter of time before his mouth got him in trouble. "....I can't say it in public but......" (on TV) hahaha. It's all rather comical, really. Keep it up DIV, you are amusing a whole bunch of people in A-NZ.

  • AJ - 2010-07-30 05:56

    Ooh, boo hoo. Cry me a river.

  • SJ1 - 2010-07-30 06:11

    SANZAR should rather spend time to ensure that refereeing standards are adequate. Currently the referees are not consistent and make too many mistakes. Rolland is a compulsive prima donna who thinks the crowd is at the stadium too see him. The rest of the northern hemisphere refs are not much better. Can't we just fire SANZAR? Pleaseeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Clown-at-Risk - 2010-07-30 06:16

    of losing his job, thecircus needs a new ring master. Pieter needs to keep his mouth shut, every time he opens his mouth it sounds like a vuvuzela.

  • william - 2010-07-30 06:22

    Its so ironic, when a previous coach - complained about test rugby ticket prices he was fired, but our famous ''snorre'' can say the most stupid of things, so stupid that the whole rugby world is laughing at us, but will still have the support from saru..... and yet the best of all....our best coach in the history of springbok rugby with his useless assistants destroying our rugby is still seen on par with the fired coach after winning the world cup... this is all one big joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Michael - 2010-07-30 06:27

    Ja Old Snor. Now you will have to learn not to speak out of school when things dont go your way. I did think your comments were born out of frustration more than malice. Yet, in the professional arenia of rugby one cannot make schoolboy comments without getting ones wrist slapped. Maybe a good slap on the wrist will put a muzzel on your very silly comments.

  • Hasie - 2010-07-30 06:37

    I am flabbergasted that anyone could defend PdV's inappropriate comments. They are the types of comments that one might expect from a 16 year old on a high school rugby field, not from a grown man, and definitely not from a national coach. His words expose both emotional and intellectual immaturity. Regardless of the language, regardless of his voice quality, the words that come out of his mouth are what make him a clown - and the rest of the nation with him by association.