Losing Bok coach a clown - Div

2010-08-03 10:58

Sydney - Under-siege South African rugby coach Peter de Villiers continues to wheel out the gems, likening himself to a "clown" after a run of three defeats to open the Tri Nations.

Which is ironic considering the Springboks demanded former Wallaby hooker and Fox Sports rugby analyst Brendan Cannon publicly apologise for using the same term to reference the controversial coach prior to their Tri-Nations Test in Brisbane last month.

Though you couldn't fault De Villiers's honesty, it was a strange choice of terminology for the Boks coach as he answered fans' questions in the latest South African Rugby Union electronic newsletter, Bokzine.

De Villiers has been criticised for some of his media comments during and after the back-to-back defeats to the All Blacks and one-off loss to the Wallabies in Brisbane, and faces a SANZAR disciplinary hearing on Friday over a televised assertion in Australia that his team had been caught up in a World Cup conspiracy in New Zealand.

De Villiers has been roundly bagged since returning from the unsuccessful Tri-Nations tour and answered a fan question in the newsletter about how he handled the criticism.

"I was always saying the greeting 'even the bad days are good' and there have been some bad days just now, that we can't deny," De Villiers answered.

"But I keep myself motivated because I believe in this team and what we are doing and know that we have the answers within ourselves to the problems that we had overseas.

"It's not like other years where we were bad and had no solutions in sight - we definitely know we can beat anyone in the world when we fix the small things that add up to a bad defeat.

"As for the criticism, I have had it since before day one! But it goes with the territory - a winning Bok coach is a superman; a losing Bok coach is a 'clown', I've learnt to take both with a pinch of salt. But thanks for your support."

Rugby Heaven

  • Met uysh! - 2010-08-03 11:07

    Come now, he is not referring to himself OR likened himself to either a clown or a superman. For goodness sake does the media really not have any brains anymore!? He was simply retorting the view that in the eyes of the media and public the Bok coach is great (superman) when he wins and then when he loses he is incompetent (a clown).

  • Come on! - 2010-08-03 11:09

    Come on mate can’t you see the sarcasm in de Villiers comment about the “clown?” If I read your idiotic comments I wonder who the real clown/clowns in this story are! Don’t worry, we know the Aussies struggles a bit when it comes to brain power! Remember SA is still a better team than the Aussies and you still have to play the Boks twice in SA mate. Things are not looking good for the Boks but I don’t think it looks any better for the clowns from down under either!

  • Dogmatic - 2010-08-03 11:11

    Hey. Thats the way. Called a clown then maybe I am a clown. I have beautiful. clowns in my marine tank. Good luck to to our courlorful/coloured clown. Show them shorty show them, how badly Jack's elite team can mess up and then fix it.

  • Michael - 2010-08-03 11:14

    OK old Snor, now that you have admitted that you are a clown - now go.

  • George - 2010-08-03 11:18

    A total idiot!

  • Poelie Smith - 2010-08-03 11:21

    If I were in Cape Town I would have march to the offices to protest to the treatment of Div and arranged a massive toy-toy!

  • Nick - 2010-08-03 11:25

    "As for the criticism, I have had it since before day one! But it goes with the territory - a winning Bok coach is a superman; a losing Bok coach is a 'clown', I've learnt to take both with a pinch of salt. But thanks for your support." ... and de Villiers is a "Superclown"

  • RugbyLover - 2010-08-03 11:26

    Don't take it with a pinch of salt, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY YOU TWAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The little problem you were talking's YOU. You of all people know you got the job for a reason, and it's got nothing to do with your CV.

  • Gail - 2010-08-03 11:27

    Kan ons coach asb kyk na die springbokke en 'n beter keuse maak, of wil hy he ons moet verloor, moenie 'n clown wees nie, wees 'n hero !!!!!!!

  • Johan - 2010-08-03 11:29

    Jy is n blerrie clown.... Of jy nou wen of verloor... Soms moet jy net minder praat, dan kan jy miskien die pos van "main clown" betree. Speel jy vir Victor op heelagter die volgende game?????

  • BasilT - 2010-08-03 11:33

    Whatever all the experts say or believe - we should recognise one thing for sure. Div is respected by the players and is liked by the players. If this was not the case, there would be lots of "off the record" stories coming out and maybe even the odd negative comment from players at the end of their careers. But it doesn't happen. Why? Because they are happy. The senior players have always made positive statements - if they did not mean it, surely it would just be better to keep quiet? And Div stands by his players through thick and thin - even when they have disappointed him. He has a great "fatherly" touch and I am happy to support him. Surely, it's the least we should be doing? When we win all 3 home tri nations games will he then be ok? Let's all sing off the same hymn sheet until the 2011 RWC is over.

  • Saam met uysh - 2010-08-03 11:40

    You may not agree with him; you may not like him and you may even want him to go BUT for goodness sakes guys, read what he is saying - NOT what you want to see or hear!! @Met uysh is perfectly correct. Support the Boks - winning or losing.

  • Sipho_CT - 2010-08-03 11:41

    Let me say this - culture, race, prejudice aside. Talking strictly rugby. I read an article that PDV is the amateur in the professional era. As the mouthpiece for SA Rugby, we cannot have someone who falls for the bait every time a journalist ropes him in. Journalists know he will say something ridiculous at some point during a press conference and they tempt and lure him into it every time without fail. He is a public relations disaster. Enough of the excuses, dubious selection policies and questionable tactics (remember when we scraped through against the Lions when PDIV inexplicably make a host of changes round the 60 minute mark). This is the professional era. Of all the international coaches, his conduct is unprofessional and in other instances, just stupid.

  • Johan - 2010-08-03 11:42

    Jy is n blerrie clown.... Of jy nou wen of verloor... Soms moet jy net minder praat, dan kan jy miskien die pos van "main clown" betree. Speel jy vir Victor op heelagter die volgende game?????

  • Richard - 2010-08-03 11:46

    If we want the boks to win, its simple we need a decent coach. Look what Robbie Deans has done for the Wallabies, lokk what Nick Mallet did for the boks (until he undid it) and Kitch Christie and Jake White - would you ever have expected anyone of them to have such stupid remarks?

  • Lee - 2010-08-03 11:47

    Coach Div used the word "clown" deliberately. It's sarcastic. You can't see that?

  • thumbs up for Div - 2010-08-03 11:51

    PDV is a great coach last year he won us the trinations, and because of baised refs now he is suddenly not good enough. The boks will be ready for the RWC just think when fourie du preez and frans steyn is added to the squad we'll be unbeatable. Go bokke and ignore these sh#t heads Div they are the same ones that always insult and complain, but never have something positive to say. go make us proud bokke, eat he wallabies and allblacks when they come here with their cheating ref.

  • Anti - 2010-08-03 11:51

    There is an example the use of those colourful expressions that Peter De Villiers uses, and that I, for one, enjoy! Too bad the Aussie (and some local) media like to take them so much out of context. The fact is - the Springboks had a very tough away draw this year, against a very strong NZ lineup. The Kiwis softened them for the Aussies at the Boks bogey ground - and now for the home leg.... When last did Australia win in Pretoria or Bloemfontein? Believe me it aint gonna be 2010!

  • P Diddy - 2010-08-03 11:55

    Okay fair enough P Divvy show us you are not the village idiot and pick a side for the next 3 games based on form. Even if we lose you can walk away with your head held high and send out the message that we are working towards the WC by blooding younger players against the best in the world. The time is now to start moving forward.

  • Robert - 2010-08-03 11:58

    How embarressing!!! Allister Coetzee must be rolling on the ground at your clown jokes! And when whites criticised you they were being racist, yet I doubt there is one that would give 100% support to a decent black coach as Allister Coetzee...

  • Bob Smith - 2010-08-03 11:59

    Geez guys, quit moaning about the headline and blurb - it's YOU lot who don't understand. Brendon Cannon said Peter de Villiers was a clown whether the Boks were winning or losing. No where did he say Div was ONLY a clown over the past 3 weekends when the Boks lost! So either Div is a complete fool and didn't understand the comment in the first place, or he has a terrible sense of timing using the word "clown".

  • ek&rugby - 2010-08-03 12:03

    Tong in die kies. Ek dink Div het 'n wonderlike hurmor....waar is julle s'n. As 'n afrigter het ek vir hom net die grootste respek

  • KOSIE - 2010-08-03 12:07

    i say notting , just now i mite also face a zanzar disaplinary hearing.

  • tseliso - 2010-08-03 12:09

    hahahahahahahahaha!! classic!!

  • Shaheen - 2010-08-03 12:09

    Seems that for all the journalists the new catch phrase is "clown". Don't you have anything better to write about, especially in Australia? The guy has a sense of humour, give him that, and he uses it to deflect criticism on his players, and takes it upon himself. The leader taking the fall for his troops not so?

  • JP - 2010-08-03 12:12

    Mr De Villiers is the coach of the boks! Last year (when we were on the winning side) nobody had any problems with him. Wait until the return matches of the Tri-Nations. If things do not turn for the good, then start asking questions...

  • glen - 2010-08-03 12:13

    What a ridiculous and dishonest spin you are putting into what he said.Why do you not report that he also called himself Superman?

  • VAD - 2010-08-03 12:13

    His play on words, in this instance, would indicate that he’s anything but a clown. Any intelligent person would understand his intentional use of the word “clown”. A very disappointing article that has no substance. Reading the comments, I’m encouraged to see that not all rugby fans are so gullible as to fall for this drivel.

  • Ryan - 2010-08-03 12:15

    Div is not a good coach, makes stuff ups whenever he goes on record. He basically relied on what Jake White built.....and slowly but surely....that is falling apart... Bring Jake White back.....we are NOT GOING TO WIN THE WORLDCUP WITH THIS CLOWN!!!!!!

  • hanswors - 2010-08-03 12:19

    In all honesty, if you look and listen to de Villiers' comments regarding the refereeing being biast to assure a New Zealand victory because of the world cup being there next year, I have absolutely NO objections to Brendan Cannon's remark. I witnessed the Fox sports studio discussion and Brendan Cannon rightfully said that "...You cant tell me that John Smith and Victor Matfield listen to this clown". Pieter de Villiers (irrespective of his coaching ability) embarrasses us as a nation with these silly comments. He is the laughing stock when you put him next to Robbie Deans or Graham Hendry for that matter. It will be incredibly interesting to see what becomes of Pieter de Villers subsequent to his Springbok coachin tenure is up - how many Clubs and/or provinces (local and European) are going to be fighting for his services and how he will transform an average squad by virtue of his coaching prowess. My gut feel is nobody will really want him but only time will tell.

  • Mr B - 2010-08-03 12:21

    I don't blame Div for the mess... it's the SARU management who are to blame... they picked a transformation coach with no real experience at the top level(S14 or International)... while other transformation candidates were available with the right credentials... like Allister Coetzee... so Div is a pawn in the hands of SARU... they pull the strings!

  • Shrek - 2010-08-03 12:23

    Better a clown than a sheep shagger!!

  • Johan - 2010-08-03 12:23

    Yes for all who say he have a sence of humor. You can see it every game with his player selections...

  • Bernard Visagie - 2010-08-03 12:27

    "But I keep myself motivated because I believe in this team and what we are doing and know that we have the answers within ourselves to the problems that we had overseas." What he does not understand is that the problem is not really the players! (Apart from Habana's defense) but him and his silly tactics - HE is failing as the coach! We have quality players that can do the job, if coached correctly. He has been riding on Jake's coat tails for far to long and finally when it is completely up to him he fails horribly!

  • Rugby101 - 2010-08-03 12:28

    @ Sipho_CT............................As a white south african can i buy you a beer and call you my's so refreshing to hear someone not talking race, culture and all that crap. And make a very valid point..............well done

  • Number13 - 2010-08-03 12:30

    When is SARU/SPRINGBOKS going to realise that NZ & AUS will do anything to upset SA players. they cant beat us on the field of play so they upset us mentally, which of course is working(as per the results). They have been doing it in cricket and now rugby as well. Stop getting caught up in the whole admin issues and hurt them where it hurt most, between the posts, it has been proven already. Springbokke!!!!!

  • STORMER - 2010-08-03 12:31

    I fear the biggest clowns are the SA rugby "supporters".....Those morons who pretend to have supported the Boks all along when they win....but churn out copious amounts of anti-Bok drivel on forums when the Boks lose.... Now those rats, are the true clowns.

  • Falcon - 2010-08-03 12:33

    @ Sipho_CT, I'm with you! I'm still stinging from those stupid substitutions. The man makes the most ridiculous decisions and let's not talk about the selections. Time to bring in some new young talent.

  • Stan - 2010-08-03 12:35

    Helium is not a clown. When I was young I went to the circus. The clowns made me laugh. Snor makes me cry!!

  • Learn to read! - 2010-08-03 12:35

    Unfortunately, irony is a subtlety that is lost on most people. One would imagine that the joarnalist understands that pdv's comments were based on the fickleness of the public (and press) who turn on the easiest target during tough times. Let's face it - even the title of the article is misleading! Poor journalism aside - the beauty of the game is that it is fluid and ever-changing... and a fit side that can keep ahead in the tactical planning department (and rule changes) is always going to prevail. Despite the "nay-sayers", we have risen above the rest before - and we will again... what we need is loyal supporters who love and appreciate the game (even if we lose)... and we will prevail! You just watch, wait and see!

  • Webb - 2010-08-03 12:35

    @Sipho-CT. Not trying to be presumptious, but from your name I assume you are a black south African. My point being that you are 100% correct in what you've written about PDV. Sadly when we as whites write exactly the same thing, it's taken as being a racist attack on a non-white. Well it's not. we are equally passionate south African who love our boks and couldn't really care less if they are coached by a purple martian as long as the best person is doing the job. PDV is not that person and is an embarrasment to SA rugby. This has nothing to do with the colour of his skin and everything to do with his poor credentials to coach our national team.

  • JK - 2010-08-03 12:39

    What a chop, can't you see what he is referring to? he is having a go at Cannon. At least he has a sense of humour and let him get on with the job.

  • Jez - 2010-08-03 12:47

    Remember what Nick Mallet got fired for - suggesting the ticket prices might be a little too high? Then think about what this cl... er, buffoon has being saying and you tend to wonder about whether the same standards are being applied.

  • rayale - 2010-08-03 12:54

    Damn he may be a good coach but his head needs rewiring because clearly what he thinks if he thinks does not communicate with the tongue and all he spews out is bullshit. Can't blame Cannon for calling him a clown. And Div stop sucking that helium it makes you sound like a clown too.

  • Robert - 2010-08-03 12:56

    Um... yeah, half of these comments on here belong on Failblog, seriously. I'm no Div fan... but if you can't see the sarcasm, in his comments then you're the "clown".

  • John - 2010-08-03 12:57

    I find rugby more and more becoming like the WWE. It seems to be more about what is said to the run up of the match. More gets reported on what happens of the the field than on. That said I still believe there to be minor problems in the squad and nothing majar the way things are reported. While the Boks were winning very little credit was given to the coach, infact most sports writers were raving about the team being coached by the senior players. Now this very writers are calling for the head of the coach. Now shall all the player coaches please stand up and be fired. Like I said rugby is becoming to much about what gets reported in the news.

  • Sam - 2010-08-03 13:00

    He didn't call himself a clown idiots. He is saying that when a bok coach looses he is called a clown. Stop misquoting him for the sake or having something to write about.

  • SOS - 2010-08-03 13:00

    Div' and Julius should start a new board game = CONFUDDLED. The one who goes nowhere the fastest is the winner. Bonus points for confusing yourself, befuddling others and for bona fide circus acts.

  • Ronel - 2010-08-03 13:01

    Aggh! just get on with it already! Div is fine, ons weet almal hy's nie die geseende een as dit kom by kommentaar nie. Let it go and get on with the game.

  • Sipho_Lover - 2010-08-03 13:03

    @Sipho_CT .. It's when I read comments like yours that I come to realise just why I love this country so much! I'm with Rugby101.. Lets get together and watch the next game with a beer in hand! Cheers to the South Africa!