Jones: Dropping Lambie harsh

2011-08-08 14:00

Tokyo - Former Wallaby coach Eddie Jones has criticised the Springbok coaching staff for dropping Patrick Lambie and for playing him at flyhalf against the All Blacks.

The former Springbok assistant coach, who was part of the Springboks successful 2007 Rugby World Cup campaign, has come out in support of the versatile young Springbok.

The Springbok management left Lambie out of their 24-man squad for the home leg of the Tri-Nations, releasing him to the Sharks for Currie Cup duty last week, despite Peter de Villiers calling him “the future of Springbok rugby” before the Springbok Test against the All Blacks in Wellington.

Speaking from Jake White’s RugbyXV website, Jones said he felt the player had been treated unfairly.

“I can't work out why the Boks dropped Pat Lambie. For me, Lambie looks more like a 15 at this stage of his career. He's definitely not a 10 at this point in his development. To play him at 10 behind a weakened pack against the All Blacks away, and then leave him out is a bit harsh for me.”

Jones believed that Lambie’s exciting attacking talents could be best utilised if he was given more space to run the ball and said that the  Bok management would be making a mistake if they left him out of their World Cup squad selection.

“He could start at 15 in this World Cup and the next and do very well for the Boks. He reminds me of Kurtley Beale in many ways - who also started his career at 10 but was exposed a little there. They're both instinctive runners from the back and are dangerous. I'd definitely have Lambie in my 30-man World Cup squad.”

Looking ahead against the Boks Test against the Wallabies in Durban, Jones fired a warning to the Springboks:

“Australian sides traditionally play well after a loss. They very rarely play two bad Tests consecutively - that's part of their mentality.”

“The first 20 minutes will key, and Australia will be very physical. They'll be up for it after being embarrassed by the All Blacks.”

“The gain line battle will decide the result. If the Boks aren't on top of their game, they could be in for a long day.”

The Springboks face Australia in their third Tri-Nations clash of the year at 17:05 in Durban on Saturday.


  • Bulldozer - 2011-08-08 13:21

    I agree Eddie, the laaitie is a fullback.

      MaanDonkie - 2011-08-08 14:11

      Is it my imagination or is Eddie starting to look like a Japanese

      Sheriffff - 2011-08-08 14:19

      @MaanDonkie - hahahahaha

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-08 14:33

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's the funniest comment of the day.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-08 14:42

      ....give Eddie Jones a bells....!!!!!

      ZotBot - 2011-08-08 15:48

      I'm not sure the wooly lamb is a rugby player. Average at best, just like Peter Grant

      StBad - 2011-08-08 16:11

      Partly agree, but if he's making Steyn look ordinary at flyhalf... well then, he should be a flyhalf...

      FJ2 - 2011-08-08 17:30

      @ZotBot:You need only one thing to get to be a selector or coach - knowledge of the game of rugby.

      Hayden - 2011-08-08 20:08

      Wow, if a well recognised coach as Eddie (and the rest of the nation) critisizes Div's team tactics by not including Lambie in the team..... gewizzzzz then our management is screwd. "In Lambie i put my trust at no 15"

  • Jay - 2011-08-08 13:22

    thanks Eddie! What you say is so true about Lambie and the advice to the Boks. Wish you were here to assist PDiv!

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 13:26

    Dear Eddie, he was played at 10 because the "experts" in SA (I include fans and couch potatoes in this category = experts) pretty much demanded it. Lambie has become the poster child for "Bok rugby's future - no fault of his own...) and the hordes demand that he be elevated before he is ready - which is what we do in good old SA. I am a fan of the man, but like you and many others, believe he is a 15 at this stage. Skin me & kick me for saying this, but I want Morne Steyn as our No 2 at the WC if Butch starts. You need a points machine in your squad to win a WC - klaar. (Especially with Daniel slotting frikkin drop kicks now......we need a player to counter that - end of)

      docraven - 2011-08-08 14:16

      Just hope PDV knows what he is doing.He has thus far dragged our name into the gutter.I have to admit his tactics thus far are looking a bit strange!

      sharkbait - 2011-08-08 15:20

      I disagree... I feel that Lambie has a lot of potential as a flyhalf but agree that it was not fair to judge him behind that back. Dan Carter would look hopeless behind a reversing pack. give a chance behind a full strength bok pack and watch him shine... The laaitie reminds me a bit of Henry Honiball...

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-08 16:10

      Sharkbait I think Eddie is right, Lambie is a natural fullback, not a flyhalf.

  • Malcolm - 2011-08-08 13:27

    Perhaps Butch can play 10 and Lambie 15. Our backline will look a lot more threatening. Then provided the forwards do their bit we could actually have a chance at the World Cup.

      Kaapie - 2011-08-08 14:40

      And where would you play Frans Steyn before everybody screams for his inclusion

      sharkbait - 2011-08-08 15:38

      He has had some great games in France at outside centre... i would love to see him outside eith Jean or Juan... pick a vowel...

  • Anneleen - 2011-08-08 13:39

    Thank you, Eddie...i feel like distributing a petition requesting Lambie to be re-instated for the remainder of the Tri-Nations...also, would like to mention Lambie's positive in the newspaper he said he will still give the game of rugby his best...go Lambie!

  • sopdrol - 2011-08-08 13:45

    Being a passionate shark supporter i couldnt agree more with Eddie, however i do think its a must to see how Frans Steyn goes from the back, both boys are match winners and i will play them in any Bok 22 any day of the week. Lambo def the future of SA rugby. Butch to start at 10, Morne has no clue in general play and he will be exposed again in Durbs should he be picked this weekend

  • Bill - 2011-08-08 13:48

    With our coaching staff who knows what is next? Biggest surprise so far was Morne Steyn at fullback.

  • htiek - 2011-08-08 13:51

    Lambie needs more Super Rugby time - he isn't ready for Test rugby...look how Cooper wilted under the pressure this weekend. One good Super Rugby season is streaks away from test rugby.

      Malcolm - 2011-08-08 15:16

      Lambie and Cooper cannot be compared. Cooper is more flashy and will try the outrageous. Such play is prone to failure at times and that's what happened on Saturday. Lambie is a solid player who directs play well. He has shown already that he is capable of doing well at test level.

      ZotBot - 2011-08-08 15:56

      Oh please sharkie, Lambie is not even that good. He's a flash in the pan wannabe, hardly 'solid'. All sharkies think their players are just brilliant. Take off the glasses and you'll see how useless most of the sharks players are ...

  • Johann - 2011-08-08 13:57

    Mr Jones, it's not rocket science to figure out our PdeV is a sort of an idiot, he probably still have morne steyn pencilled in at fullback (LOL)

  • Josh Brown - 2011-08-08 13:58

    Look at the REDS now Edward, Super Rugby Champions 2011....REDS came good when you left ..Mr Jones, you are a MUPPETT !! ..Does anybody really listen to what he has to say??? DIE ROI MASJIEN!!!....GO YOU WALLABIES :))))))))))

  • - 2011-08-08 13:58

    Eddie, go and shave your diff! Like your opinion though.

  • RL - 2011-08-08 14:02

    why wont this tiny jap go away? logically there was not going to be another chance to decide who we would start with i.e. morne or butch. so im pretty sure div had a sit down with the "young michael knight" and explained the game plan. lambles has booked his wc spot, and unfortunately it will be as a utility back but he will be there and he will be awesome.

  • dave.cohen2 - 2011-08-08 14:05

    Eddie, what you have said is so true, but you cannot expect the three goons who should be taking the responsibility for our poor performances to realise what you have said. I don't think these three idiots (ostriches) even know how to bury their heads in the sand! By the way, the way in which the Western Province pack of forwards played against the Cheetahs on Saturday, I could have sworn that Gary Gold had a coaching session during the week. That is just how they played when he was in charge of their pack a couple of years ago. They way in which they played is the way in which our Springbok pack now plays. Why do I and the rest of the country have to put up with all of this? Surely the country deserves better!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 14:26

      Did Gary Gold swing by a Sharks training session last week as well? Just asking...considering the Sharks beating at the Griqua's started up front?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 14:28

      'Sharks beating at the Griquas hands' I meant to type......

  • Fats - 2011-08-08 14:20

    1-Coenie 2-Bismark 3-Beast 4-Bakkies 5-Victor 6-Burger 7-J.Smith (C) 8-Alberts 9-F.du Preez 10-Butch 11-Habana Villiers 13-J.Fourie 14-JP Peterson 15-F.Steyn Bench: Brussow, Lambie, J.Smit, D.Rossow, F.hougard, J.du plessis, Aplon/De Jong My starting 15...Feel free to comment

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-08 14:47

      ...Beast is a loose-head... ......why play him out of position...??

      Fats - 2011-08-08 14:57

      if PDV can play guys out of position, why am I not allowed to do it? Thank for correcting me

      boyd.lance - 2011-08-08 15:53

      Good team, but I'd start with Brussouw and play Burger at 8. I'd bring Alberts and Danie on as impact players. I like the fact that John Smit will play off the bench

  • cristiano - 2011-08-08 14:22

    Can someone tell me if these guys are seriuos? Who cares about a Tri-Nation trophy played 1 month before a World Cup? Rugby became a professional sport, professionals prioritise. A world Cup is surely more important then a Tri-Nation. Losing to the Aussie and to the Kiwis AGAIN will be a pleasure if we then beat them AGAIN for the big one!! Mr. Jones, Mr. White, when you were running the show at the Boks you took any interference very badly, why don't you now shut up and wait for the boks to be out at group stage before chatting and judging? regards, Cristiano Sassoli

  • Drewka - 2011-08-08 14:27

    Agreed Eddie, Lambie should be in the squad. This squad is chosen on experience and not on form, otherwise guys like Pienaar, Morne Steyn, G Steenkamp, D Rossouw, P Spies would have been dropped. I just hope that they include him in the WC squad. He deserves the Green and Gold

      Fats - 2011-08-08 14:30

      @Drewka- I agree 100% with you, accept for Danie, I think that he brings a lot of fire to any bok team and always give 200% for his country. As for Pienaar, Steyn and Spies, they should hang up their boots for good!

      Drewka - 2011-08-08 15:14

      @fats... Dont read this wrong, they are all great players, but on current form they won’t make it against the AB's or Walabies. Danie is a very physical player, so is Spies and Steenkamp, but the boks need some flair in the trio with players that can question the oppositions defence. Spies is not half the player he was back in 2008, and Guthro not as strong this season.

  • colin - 2011-08-08 14:29

    Lambie competes with Aplon, Ruan and Frans Steyn all versatile players - difficult for PDV but there is only place for so many players.

      HanHan - 2011-08-08 14:49

      That's why Ruan should stay!

  • coenie.koch - 2011-08-08 14:52

    Play Frans Steyn at 12. Lambie at 15. J. de Villiers is overrated!!

      ZotBot - 2011-08-08 15:53

      The Wooly Lamb is overated, and needs a freakin haircut !!! Staal wol

  • GMAN - 2011-08-08 15:22

    Butch too old.... Morne too slow...Grant to timid, Ebersohn way too youg......... Lambie too inexperienced... (like Houghaard was last time down South) So no one good enough in a world cup year ...... poor management??? Or simply arrogant. You should be S U R E by 2 months before WC piet snorre! (Gaan vra vir naas wie kies jy eerste as jy span kies... beteken jy moet 3 flyhalves he teen die tyd wat mekaar opdreun!)

      ZotBot - 2011-08-08 15:52

      Agree with you 100%. The other top tier nations have been buildilng for 4 years. Quota De Villiers and his two excuses for coaching staff, have tried to ride off the back of Jake White's success, hoping that the old dinosaurs have got a little fight left in them. Well now it's 4 years later, the RWC a month away, and we've done NOTHING !!! We don't have a world class match-winning number 10, that's the truth !!!

  • Jack Turner - 2011-08-08 16:54

    MaanDonkie...Are you basically too stupid to ask a question...seeing that you dont know..or maybe you do know Ediie Jones' mother is Japanese.............

  • Sbuda - 2011-08-08 18:33

    I support Pat Lambie 100%. If it means he must play 15 so be it but for goodness sake can we not do another Brent Russell/Ruan Pienaar/Frans Steyn on the boy. If he's a flyhalf let him compete with other flyhalves and if he's a fullback likewise. I'm starting to feel all this talk will do more harm than good on him. Next thing we complain of loosing talent when he goes and play overseas where they only play in one position week in and week out without too much pressure. Not to mention the big bucks!!!!!

  • Andre - 2011-08-08 18:51

    Eddie for Bok Coach !!!

  • TheDuck - 2011-08-08 19:30

    Why did you ever leave? Such a wise man.

  • BardofAvon - 2011-08-09 08:01

    Agreed. Bambs for fullback!

  • Thami Fraser - 2011-08-09 16:36

    You're spot on Eddie. But our provincial franchises must play ball by selecting these young players in a position where they can develop confidence and consistency. The Sharks are the biggest culprit in this department. Ruan Pienaar, Pat Lambie, John Smit. South African franchises must learn to do things with the bigger picture in mind. In the national interest.

  • BokSharky - 2011-08-09 16:54

    Eddie(MR Miejuggy)Jones ,we will have Lambie at 10 thank you very much ..............Form SA flyhalf this year......He defends well he attacks well can kick as well i see 3 more world cups for the lad enough time for him to become the best in that position ask John Plumtree ............. As for Cooper looked very ordinary last week hey .....Lets see him stop our rush defence for Saturdays game

  • dageewe - 2011-08-10 01:33

    I think Div is way too big for his boots! what are we still doing with this idiot! Hopefully he's out after the World Cup

  • Ozman - 2011-08-10 18:56


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