Carter wrapped in cotton wool

2011-08-08 08:09

Auckland - Dan Carter is set to be wrapped in cotton wool when the All Blacks head to South Africa next week as coach Graham Henry returns the Springboks' favour in a Rugby World Cup year.

According to the website, Henry won't announce his travelling squad until Friday, but confirmed a group of senior players would be left behind with as few as 24 taken to Port Elizabeth for the Tri-Nations return match.

He indicated strongly that Colin Slade would start the match at flyhalf.

"Colin Slade has played well, he's been impressive when he's played. It was a little gem last week against South Africa," Henry said. "But at some stage he has to run the cutter and this may be his chance."

South Africa sent a 'B' team to Wellington two weeks ago and though the All Blacks won't follow suit, Slade's selection would highlight the tactical nature of the tour party.

New Zealanders would not argue with the rationale for leaving Carter at home and denying the Springboks any chance of hobbling the All Blacks' ace before the World Cup.

Henry confirmed that World Cup spots remain up for grabs just two weeks before the final squad is named in Brisbane on August 23.

"We have to finalise that and there are still some areas where people need to produce. It seems ridiculous but that's the facts."

Meanwhile, centre Richard Kahui (hamstring), fullback Israel Dagg (quadricep) and utility back Isaia Toeava, will all travel if fit.

Prop John Afoa is likely to be fit to travel after making a "nine out of 10" recovery from the fractured cheek bone suffered against South Africa.


  • Maori - 2011-08-08 08:15

    Great news! Colin Slade will have a cracker of a game and Piri's goalkicking is above standard. As I said previously, I hope Henry rests key players on the tour to the republic and bring them back for the last game in Aussie land. Cannot wait to see Dagg back as Mils is not producing the same form as last year. Dagg's return will place pressure on Mils to step up his game.

      Nico Rette - 2011-08-08 10:02

      From the 3 injured travellers. Dagg and Kahui will most likely miss out on a RWC spot. Think it's a year too soon for Dagg. He is still very error prone and seems to try the flashy stuff even when it's not required. Might be a risk for them in a tight world cup game. Dagg also only covers wing and fullback. Kahui is "always" injured. no point bringing him along as injury cover. Kahui only covers wing and centre. Toeava. Form fullback this year. He took a crap on every other fullback in the comp. Consistently great. No mistakes that I can remember(no Blues bias). Covers centre, wing and fullback. If he is fit, it's a given that he will be included.

      marco - 2011-08-08 10:06

      @Maori- Mate this is a South African website you on you know that don't you.We're not interested in the what's what of Dagg,Mils and all other what have you K@K you talk.Carter is what matters most in this headline story here as he is the backbone of the All Blacks .Without what he brings and does at 10 for New Zealand,then they becomes a K@K team.

      Maori - 2011-08-08 10:34

      @Marco, shame, i feel it for you. Freedom of expression mate, ask Ferial and Eric! hahahahaha

  • Fiftybucks - 2011-08-08 08:35

    There is no such thing as a "B" All Blacks team I will give them their dues on that. Whatever team they put on the field will be competitive and if we play the same brainless crap we have been dishing up for the last year and a half their U21 team would take us to the cleaners.

      kiwiNZ - 2011-08-08 11:14

      @marco; I must correct you marco, this may be a SA generated site but the world wide web known to you as the internet makes it global & since the subject is tri nations team players it stands to reason that that would include all of those 3 nations players involved. 1) You should remove your "SA only" blinkers and enter the global community for a wider perspective on what is happening in your /our world....& 2) Refrain from your verbal abuse when you don't agree with a comment but rather engage the debate with an intelligent & informative response that will reflect your understanding of the subject. Carter's job like any No 10 is important to the AB's but even he will tell you that its a 15 man game & every player has an important job to do to secure a victory.That's the All Blacks success, well co ordinated team work.Without Carter,that team work still continues with anyone of our three number 10 replacement options like Colin Slade mentioned above by maori, Aaron Cruden , Luke Mcallister etc.So you see for every AB 15 man player position there are several options to choose from to replace them if & when necessary.That is what Henry & Co have been doing this last 4 yrs and now at 32 days before the RWC we are just using Tri Nations teams like your boks & Oz to fine tuning the player combinations.Winning the next game in SA is not important as its only a fine tune exercise & the reality is the 2011 RWC will be played on NZ soil so we have the home advantage.

      marco - 2011-08-08 11:42

      @kiwiNZ mate I'm over here under Maori's comment can you see that with your ****ing World War 2 pilot goggles you biscuit.Don't ****ing put words in my mouth or assume I said or meant anything along those lines.Where did say to Moari "SA only" or put blinkers on that needed to be removed?Also don't ****ing preach to me about "verbal abuse" or "enter the global community" and all the other suchlike K@K you lecturing on here at News24.It might live up to certain peoples expectations,but you'll be none the wiser for it.No harm in telling a KIWI troll like Maori to go **** yourself is there.

      Maori - 2011-08-08 11:46

      @Marco, mind your language girl! Relax, do not be so sensitive, cannot afford to loose you before the start of the world cup!

  • Makutu - 2011-08-08 08:35

    Daniel Carter is the most down to earth sportsman I have ever ever heard of. This guy never says anything. He never fights with anyone and never says any nasty things. He is always cool calm and collected. I really wish we had players of his calibre in SA. Our players are too arrogant.

      pitchblack - 2011-08-08 09:32

      "This guy never says anything. He never fights with anyone and never says any nasty things." Sounds like a pussy to me...

      Shawn - 2011-08-08 09:41

      as an Ab supporter, i have to agree with you however there are quite a few outstanding footballers in SA rugby that are very humble, take Fourie Du Preez for instance...probably the most influential player for both SA and the Bulls but you never see bad press or have anything negative to say about anybody...goes on with his business and very low-key too...what and awesome ambassador for SA rugby...Als removes all stereotypes that all the "Pretoria Boere:" are arrogant and racist...come on people we in the 21st century...Proudly SA and AB fan

      Makutu - 2011-08-08 09:51

      I've read press about Fourie du Preez saying that if Henyeke Meyer returnd to the Bulls, he won't leave the Bulls. Not a very nice thing to read for Frans Ludeke, don't you think. I'm an All Blacks fan and the nastiest thing Daniel Carter has said was how he is trying to improve as a player. How does DANIEL CARTER improve? This man is immense! He deserves to be knighted.

      Crawfords - 2011-08-08 10:08

      He said he would make himself available to SA if Meyer was Bok coach. Meyer is at the Bulls and he is still leaving...

      Makutu - 2011-08-08 10:51

      Oh, a South African down to earth player I can think of is Jaque Fourie. Obviously there is more but that's one heck of a good player that has his feet firmply planted on the ground.

      Jack Turner - 2011-08-08 10:58

      You are 1000% correct "Makutu" for the comment by pitchback...I WONDER WHO THE PUSSY IS.... I wish I knew you personally "Pitch". I'de take every cent you own.The Boks dont stand a chance in hell of winning the R.W.C. Maybe not even making the semi's.

      kiwiNZ - 2011-08-08 11:30

      @Makutu Agree with you 100% on Carters humble demeanour. Isn’t it funny though how the SA media mockingly refer to Carter staying at home as "wrapped in cotton wool" but they had nothing to say about the "21injured" Boks kept at home too? 21 players? That’s 15 players plus reserves, the entire Bok team and then just 2 weeks later the 21 injured miraculously recover and are ready to play again in the CCup & Bok /Oz match. I tell you it’s a miracle! Those Bok sport Dr's are the ones who deserve the medal Pdivvy is demanding. Needless to say that it’s all too little too late for the boks.

      kiwiNZ - 2011-08-08 20:43

      @marco . Sadly its obvious that you lack the ability to converse on an adult level.I said respond with and "intelligent informative response that reflects your understanding". Instead Your response only confirms your negative double digit IQ and childish demeanour. I'm sure your KTV channel has sites that can accommodate your negative double digit IQ level so go play there and leave this site . There are adults speaking here! Dont make me come over there and spank you too. 11000km is too far to travel to teach a child how to behave in public.

      Bumblebee - 2011-08-11 11:08

      100% Makutu. That goes for the majority of the AB's. Wish some of these arrogant japies can be made aware of the word HUMBLENESS!

      Jerome Williams - 2011-08-11 14:25

      so true bra so true

  • Marcus Daily - 2011-08-08 08:41

    Then I guess Div played his cards a bit too early. If an All Black team missing Carter, McCaw an other senior stars can upset a full strength Springbok side at home, then we have serious problems.

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-08 09:42

      Not much Div can do about the fact that NZ "B" can beat us here.

      Makutu - 2011-08-08 10:34

      From what I have seen over the years the All Blacks do not have a B team. They have fileded their so-called B-team and that B-Team has beaten the Bokke on several occasions.They have a B-flyhalf. No Daniel Carter, no All Blacks. Remember 2009 when he was injured?

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 08:59

    After Saturday's game one realises once more just how vital Daniel is to ANY dreams NZ have of winning the WC. He truly is the finest 10 of our time - perhaps all time. Whatever we think or don't think, it would be a travesty if this man (and Richie grudgingly) didn't win a WC in their time. Kiwis can stand on their heads....Slade does not come close, and I would be surprised if the glass jawed/injury prone pretender even makes it to the WC.

      Phelan Wulf - 2011-08-08 09:31

      He is without a doubt the best rugby player that I have ever had the priveledge to see play. It just begs the question, what is going to happen to NZ if he gets hurt again before or during the RWC. He really does make that much of a difference to their team. It speaks volumes for the AB's that they still maintain a team identity, and have not just become the Dan Carter show. The man's humility is probably one of his most appealing personal attributes.

      gooinat - 2011-08-08 09:34

      Morning Saffa,yes Carter is vital to the AB chances at the WC and he had a good game Saturday but I think if McCaw and the rest allow you to get to Carter you can rattle him,I recall a couple of seasons ago here at Newlands he was nailed in the beginning of the game and he was buggered for the rest of the game,same applies to Cooper,on Saturday McCaw was at him and he was rattled and could of cost he's team more points.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 09:50

      @Gooinat - twas Ricky J who hassled Daniel at Newlands.... ) absolute legend performance that day from Ricky J :). That said - Daniel does have 'off' days, but compared to old Razzle Dazzle Cooper (who once more proved he could be the biggest liability in the Aussie team...), Daniel was rock solid. Daniel C is integral to ANY shot the AB's have.....I reckon - but for his 'off days' with the boot :) I like old Daniel. going to cost the Wobblies end of. And yet they still ignore Matt Gits? I knew the Wobblies would make a few selection stuff ups...thats what happens when you want dazzlers in every position in the backline...hehehehe.

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-08 11:18

      You know Saffa as a South African there is only one team for me and that is Green and Gold. But I have to admit the AB's are playing beautiful rugby, and if my beloved Boks can't retain the cup then I would like to see the AB's crowned world champs.

  • Kok - 2011-08-08 10:12

    Not even a choke chain can stop us now.

      Drewka - 2011-08-08 10:22

      The word "Choke" and "All Blacks" are synonyms with each other....

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 10:40

      @Kok - In the case of the AB's and their fanatical fans it should surely be a case of: "Fool me once, shame on you....Fool me twice, shame on me". TWO decades of fooling and you chaps still ride the hype like rodeo cowboys (only to be bucked off violently at the end....)

      Maori - 2011-08-08 10:44

      The saffas are so nervous about their campaign! The Aussies will test them big time in Durbs. cannot wait for Saturday.

      Kok - 2011-08-08 10:47

      Ons B span gaan hulle opneuk in PE. en die Aussies in Durban. Dan wat maak hulle dan? hulle het nie nog spelers nie - slegs veterane en 'n useless B span.

      Stryder - 2011-08-08 11:03

      Enjoyed the All Blacks vs Wallabies this weekend. Was great to see the Aussies get thumped and the All Blacks Peaking prematurely.

      Drewka - 2011-08-08 11:03

      @Maori... Talk is cheap. Over confidence is always the AB's downfall. I respect the AB's for the brand of rugby that their playing at the moment but think we would have the upper hand in the republic. Can't wait for the game.

      Maori - 2011-08-08 11:08

      @Drewka, the AB's are not overconfident, never been. Listen to the players and coaching staff after the games - they need to work on some areas of the game. Humble people unlike the ones I know in the republic

      FJ2 - 2011-08-08 11:23

      Gee kans, Kok, gee kans. Iewers in die afsienbare toekoms gaan ons weer 'n goeie jong span hê, maar spanbou vat tyd, soos die Engelse wenspan van 2003 gewys het. Op die oomblik, reken ek, is die AB's tops en ek dink ook nie hulle gaan hierdie keer 'choke' nie. Maar om SA sommer net af te skryf, is onrealisties, selfs al het die huidige afrigterspan (hetsy PdV en sy twee 'stooges' of, soos soms beweer, die spelers self) die bus oor die afgelope 4 jaar totaal gemis betreffende spelpatroon en aanpassing by die reëls, asook die ontwikkeling van vaardighede. Die AB's sal nie die fout maak om die Bokke te onderskat nie, elfs al doen hulle ondersteuners dit.

      Gomez - 2011-08-08 11:48

      Dis nie jou b span nie kok,dis hulle b span.

      Drewka - 2011-08-08 12:27

      I agree that on paper the AB's is the best team in the TN and the RWC for that matter, but this lovely game isn’t played on paper; it’s played on the field. I believe that the Boks have a good chance to win the AB's in PE, especially if they send a "B" team. In saying that we also know that the boks MUST be 110% up for the task, and we need more consistency in our game to take that to the WC. I have to take my hat off to the Cheetah team that beat the Crusaders in Bloemfontein earlier on, because they had the right mind-set for the game and the Boks need that type of mindset to beat the AB's. That is Springbok rugby at their best, to win against all odds.

  • JohannV - 2011-08-08 10:12

    In stead of doing the Haka, the All Blacks will fly in Natasha Bedingfield so she can perform "I bruise easily."

  • Drewka - 2011-08-08 10:33

    I think Henry is scared that Butch may hurt his blue eyed flyhalf. This will be a pity because we need to see the best of SA against the best of NZ. Springboks should now show their steel, first against the Walabies, then the All Blacks. Restore some pride for the supporters and self believe for the players.

      Maori - 2011-08-08 10:45

      Saffas do not have anything to compare with DC. Worry about Saturday - the rusty boks will have a mountain to climb.

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-08 10:59

      Yes Maori they do, and they will climb that mountain because they can. First for the men from Aus. They must just put a lot of pressure on Cooper, Saturday showed he folds under pressure.

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-08 11:13

      Maori I am keeping the faith, only time will tell, yes the Bokkies are prob rusty, but so were Brussouw and he did not disappoint.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-08 11:29

      @Blueraven - the Boks are going to be rusty.....very rusty. The good news is: most of the combinations in our team are as old and settled as Moses, so I can't see it taking more than 2 games for the boys to start "feeling it". The game against the Aussies, ease in slowly - The game against the Kiwis, 'go a little harder'.... The results of these 2 games once more don't concern me too much, there are more important things at stake in these 2 games than the outcomes (fitness, injuries, combos, defensive pattern etc)

      Drewka - 2011-08-08 13:42

      @Maori... agree that SA don't have a Dan Carter. Dan is a good player and his name should be next to Phillip Bennett's, Naas Botha's, Grant Fox, Andrew Mehrtens of the world. But he is also a key player for the AB's, and like Cooper from Oz, he controls the backline by his decision making on the field, and the last season with the crusaders have shown a little lack of form, in both his decisions and goal kicking. Butch James on the other hand is on form, ball distribution and his ability to read the game is of world class. Not to talk about his defence. I would also like to see Juan de Villiers and Jaque Fourie against your super boy SBW. With all the negative publicity that the Boks have in SA, it’s high time we show South Africans and the world that we aren’t called “the World champs” for nothing, and not going to be a walkover for any one that wishes to take the cup away from us.

  • Lwazi - 2011-08-08 10:35

    All Blacks is miles ahead of the Boks regardless of who they select. Our game needs to change, this tactic of only being effective at the breakdown is limiting us,. We couldn't break the All Black defence simply because we wanted to bulldoze them over. We have young and lean guys who have the skills to play running rugby. After this World Cup, our average age is likely to be between 23 - 25 and this is a great opportunity to change the philosophy - question is which local coach can achieve this.

      Riaan - 2011-08-08 12:56

      I'm afraid no South African coach is up for the job. We need someone to instill a different mindset in the players to what they have been taught there whole lives. Would like to see this task being appointed to John Mitchell.

  • carol - 2011-08-08 10:48

    i agree a real pussy!!!!!!!!!!!! sbw!!!! the best!!!!!

  • Fikile - 2011-08-08 11:09

    pdv what u going to do now, our team does well, u were only playing the AB C's, we loose of it is a close one, ag i can see a lot of us bokkie supports watching the RWC with one eye closed. OR JUST MAYBE it can be another perfect storm, who said that lighting can't strike twice.

      carol - 2011-08-08 12:14

      maybe you shuld switch to watchinh Bowls......

  • Josh Brown - 2011-08-08 14:01

    Poor little princess...."Carter, have a teaspoon of cement & harden up!!"

  • shermyb - 2011-08-09 01:53

    @ Drewka, "I would also like to see Juan de Villiers and Jaque Fourie against your super boy SBW." Didn't you see the Crusaders vs Stormers gam @ Newlands? SBW made them his b!tches.

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