Boks rue tackles, turnovers

2011-07-30 14:32

Cape Town - Springbok captain John Smit says too many missed tackles and turnovers proved to be their undoing against the All Blacks in Wellington.

The Boks were hammered 40-7, after trailing 18-7 at halftime.

The South Africans missed 24 tackles in total and lost possession at the breakdowns on six occasions - a statistic which captain Smit admitted was fatal for his side.

"Even though we played good rugby at stages during the game, you're always going to pay if you turn over possession at this level, and we certainly paid for that against these blokes," Smit was quoted as saying on the website, ESPNscrum.

"You also can't afford to miss so many tackles, which also cost us tonight."

Despite the big hammering, the Bok captain is positive for the future and believes the experienced gained on this tour will stand them in good stead in the future.

"It's always terrible to lose, especially against the All Blacks, but we will learn from this and just have to lift our game when we get back home.

"But we brought some young players over here and they would have grown immensely and would have seen what can be done with ball in hand."


  • StBad - 2011-07-30 14:36

    All Blacks are just miles ahead of where this team is...

      Joe_Public - 2011-07-30 14:45

      Got to say though. The Springbok plan for the RWC is working pretty well so far. The ABs are under pressure from their supporters to perform (as always). After today's game they must be left wondering where they actually do rate in terms of where they are vs where they want to be at this point in time. They were effectively playing against Springbok newbies. With a hollow victory under their belt, the mind games have begun...

      Joe_Public - 2011-07-30 15:17

      So tell me Black Beauty. With your 33 points from today. How will you measure up to our first team of players (of which 21 are missing from the current Tri Nations squad)? I guess you're not bothered that our C team managed to keep you to only 33 points difference and manage to score a try? Definitely reassuring. I'm sure you guys will go all the way. Just watch out for those Aussies and French. They tend to mess with your mind.

      Black Beauty - 2011-07-30 15:46

      Hey JOE, 33 POINTS with that ball in your hand, HEY JOE

      Thouca - 2011-07-30 16:31

      quietly inside we all know this was not our AA team and we all know what the boks are up to...the AB just have to win every game , incl the semi against england '95 and showoff their hand too early......say what u like, these facts are true...............bring it on u wannabe AB world champs

      PurpleDragon - 2011-07-30 16:32

      haha Joe, "only" 33 points.

      Thouca - 2011-07-30 16:34

      further fact not pointed out enough, the ab have not won a wc with the boks participating....say what u like...fact.....

      marco - 2011-07-30 19:44

      The Springboks lack strength in depth.What if any of the 21 socalled frontline Boks gets injured a few weeks before the Woldcup and during the Worldcup itself,then what.There seems to be never a good time to groom or blood upcoming B-team Boks that would cut it at the top level and try and compete with the likes of New Zealand or Australia is there.We seem to go backwards when every other self respecting rugby analyst would say to the powers that be - go the other way mate.Mr De Villers seems to think that by resting players now will do the thing for him at the worldcup in September,but sadly that is not it.There is something fundamentally wrong with South African rugby that makes us lose in such large and embarrassing margins over the past two weekends.

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-07-30 19:49

      @Joe-public..considering that we put on more points than the wallabies, and won by a significantly bigger margin than them, against a bok team that had a one more game under it's belt, while we were missing 4 top line players..I think we did ok?..don't you?..I mean if you compare last weeks result to this week we did better than aussie..yes??

      Werner - 2011-07-30 19:51

      '...just have to lift our game...' Honestly, this is the most abused, tired line you can spit. John, it's yawn-inducing. If you can't come up with a more intellectual/honest response, just don't say anything. I genuinely think De Villiers has had it. He has never impressed me much and from what I can tell from his interviews he doesn't seem like too bright a chap sometimes. What he is busy doing is smearing a very proud, deeply rooted tradition in the mud. Time. To. Leave.

      mozzer - 2011-07-31 01:12

      Thouca - Thats because PDV has never coached the boks for a world cup before

      Captainmorgan - 2011-07-31 06:51

      I only saw highlights of the game on the news & judging by that it seems like a high school team could have given the All Blacks more to contend with.

      Zion - 2011-07-31 11:05

      Joe Public, Australia and the All Blacks played against a SPRINGBOK TEAM And irrespective what you call them it is a Springbok team which played in 2 internationals. You can call them what you want to but this team will be listed in the history books of the game as SPRINGBOKS. And nothing else.

  • StaalBurgher - 2011-07-30 14:37

    At least Smit had a much improved game. Silver lining!

      rockster666 - 2011-07-30 14:57

      How did everyone rate the Boks overall performance with the game tonight against the ABs and the game last week against the Wallabies.

      Northern Stormer - 2011-07-30 15:01

      Stem saam my maat !!!

      Joe_Public - 2011-07-30 15:20

      @rockster666: I reckon it's improved given that last week was the first run of this team. Will take a while for the defence to gel. Our biggest problems at the moment are our inexperienced scrum and the total and utter absence of a fetcher. (Stegmann wouldn't make the Griffons team)

      Andy49 - 2011-07-30 17:28

      "Boks rue tackles, turnovers" says captain (not)fantastic, the TRUE Bok supporters say "we rue the fact that you are still in the team"

      Mr. B - 2011-07-30 19:48

      @Andy49 Earth is full, go home dude. Have some respect - what have you ever played a 100 of ? Games of "Spank the Monkey" Smit was probably one of the best Boks on the park today.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-07-30 20:06

      Generally, I think our play was much better than against the Aussies. Our defence on turnover and broken play was still shocking though and where most of the points came from. We also gave away quite a few unnecessary penalties and should've been given a few more by that muppet Irishman, Rolland.

      Frans Smith - 2011-07-30 20:40

      compared to his opposition Hore, he was nowhere. Compared to chilli boy, he was nowhere. Sorry, he missed crucial tackles again. Mccaw played a captains innings. Ask yourself if Bismark played if he could have done better seeing that Sean Fritpatrick and Michael Lynach rated him the best in the world?

      Alan - 2011-07-30 22:42

      I thought we were very bad but had improved on last week. That could be because the Aussies were genuinly better than the ABs were. ABs had that muppet irishman rolland to thank again albeit only for about 21 points so they would still have beaten the Boks but it would have closer. The Aussie game was extremely well ref'd and they just took their foot off the gas with 25min to go to help us bring some respectability to our game. I hope someone does us a favour and introduces muppet rolland to a bar stool before the RWC - I think I will go search for him.

      Makutu - 2011-07-31 20:32

      I think I saw him missing tackles or not making tackles at all and that resulted in tries. The man walks and jogs the whole game. All he does is talk. I don't think he had such a good game. The man and Danie Russouw do not tackle. Stegman too!

  • Maori - 2011-07-30 14:39

    You make mistakes because you are under relentless pressure - the bokkies cannot handle the intensity and speed of the game - clearly showed tonight

      pswart40 - 2011-07-30 15:55

      Glad you admit its the Bokkies and not the BOKs

      Thouca - 2011-07-30 16:51

      maori dude, only one trophy counts here...........a lot of ab empty-can rattling going on here.....and the world knows u and the rest of yr 4million wannabe champ nation is crapping in their little black pants.......mmmmm no pressure here guys ??? the french are going to remind u a little!!....

  • Black Beauty - 2011-07-30 14:41

    Who cares if a country with 4 million beat a country with 40+ million, it's not as if the Saffas lied let alone CHEATED

      Black Beauty - 2011-07-30 14:43

      Where's Bakkies? apparently he was cleared fit, according to Toulon......................BWAHHHHHHHHHHH

      Black Beauty - 2011-07-30 14:44

      Teflon don, TOULOUSE

      Joe_Public - 2011-07-30 14:47

      You seem to like talking to yourself?

      TrueSaffa - 2011-07-30 15:01

      The one who laughs last, laughs the loudest.....RWC we will be laughing when we win our 3rd world cup.

      Black Beauty - 2011-07-30 15:50

      @Jack, are they the same memories as our history? 33

      pswart40 - 2011-07-30 15:57

      Yeah its 4mil that watch/play rugby, we only about 3mil that watch/play rugby in SA. Remember its a bit of a soccer majority...

      apie - 2011-07-30 16:02

      TrueSaffa the boks will not even reach the quarters. The AA boks are a disgrace and will disappear as a rugby nation in 10 years time. Watch this space.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-07-30 20:09

      40 million? Are we talking about SA? Because last I checked maybe only about 8 million played if you look at rugby support throughout the country. Also, 4 million for NZ doesn't take into account that they have several more in the islands around them. Let us say even 8 million each.

      JDemons - 2011-07-31 05:08

      NZ over 150,000 registered players (total) SA over 600,000 registered players (total) Proof that SAFRU are the most inefficient rugby body, period! There should be no way that the boks would ever have a 'B' side. In fact, they should have at least 3 'A' sides. I find it confusing that some people in these forums accept it. Also, even if France beat NZ in the pool rounds the other teams won’t, which will result in NZ being runner up and playing the winner of pool B (probably England) in the quarters. The French always play out of their skins against the AB’s but I don’t see another upset for the AB’s SA has the hardest pool, with the Samoans and Fijians being extremely physical. The only luck in this pool is that SA are not playing these two teams consecutively, as Wales could have taken advantage of the physical toll on the SA players.

  • Northern Stormer - 2011-07-30 15:00

    Hierdie set-up gaan nie werk nie Die Stormesr se stutte was pateties maar menere Kruger is n palooka - maybe CC materiaal. Hull moes Coenie en Greyling gespeel het !!!. Smit het n great game gehad - het durf getoon en hard gewerk !!! Ons slotte is nie eers middelmatig nie, Tweede game in n ry is Mnr Stegmann net n passasier - Johnston moes daar begin het !!! Rossouw het n great S15 gehad maar was totaal uit sy klas uit vandag - hardloop te reggop en Bulls stampkar rugby om die skrums werk nie teen AB's nie. Pienaar patetsie en moes Nr 15 begin het. Lambie onder onmstandighede n great game. De Jongh, AD, Meisiekind - almnal pateties en verbeeldingloos. Basson - menere hierdie is n flash in the pan - useless en totaal uit sy klas uit. Mvovo het gesukkel maar tot op die einde probeer - en dan - Die No 15 - menere hy is geskuif van 10 na 15, hy pas nie een van die 2 posisies nie - skuif hom 22 toe en gee hom game time in CC - hy het dit nodig - Pateties is n komplement !!!!! Hoop oor 2 weke is beter !!! Nou wag ek vir die GraemeBB,Bulldozer,Marcell, Bloody Agent etc om hulle deel by te dra - dit sal seker weer rondom "10 yrs no cups" of "30 attempts no success " draai - Julle veel besproke Bulls kandidate het gefaal en daar is geen verskonings nie - geen - vergeet die ref etc. - Hulle was swak, pateties en uit hulle klas uit maak nie saak hoeveel S15 cups hulle gewen het nie !!!!!!

      Troep - 2011-07-30 15:29

      Hey this is News 24, julle boere moet gaan na Nuus 24 om kommentaar te liewe.

      Jack - 2011-07-30 15:30

      @NS. Jy's maar lekker deurmekaar ou maat. Niks maak in jou 'posting' sin nie. Al jou stellings omtrent die spelers is slegs venynig. Wag totdat jy konstruktief weer kan wees. Jy moet eers asemskep, en wag totdat jy die skok van hierdie nederlaag verwerk het, voor jy kommentaar lewer. Ons is almal bitter ongelukkig, maar nou is nie die tyd om mense af te kraak nie. Die spelers het is gekies om 'n onbegonne taak te probeer hanteer, en hulle het gefaal, soos wat ons almal in die week voorspel het - ja almal. Ek het nie een persoon teegekom wat 'n wen voorspel het nie. Almal het 'n pak slae voorspel. So, wat is jou probleem?

      Andy49 - 2011-07-30 17:24

      English please.

      Jack - 2011-07-30 17:29

      @Andy49. This is a multilingual country, as enshrined in our constitution, so get knotted.

      Northern Stormer - 2011-07-30 23:24

      @Jack. - Geen probleem nie my maat net gatvol vir onder presteerders wat opgehemel word as ons beste !!! Glad ook nie deurmekaar nie - net objektiewe kommentaar op wat gebeur het - verskil jy van my ?? Indien wel is dit jou voorreg om so te voel !!!

  • bemused - 2011-07-30 15:23

    Another Bok Bashing.....unbelievable......How come the All Blacks are consistently good year in and year out and only really slip up now and again at a world tournament....where as we only seem to be able perform once in a blue moon....and only the luck of the draws saw us win the last world cup? We now have 2 games, against the 2 best sides in the world, to try put a team together, build confidence and have some serious game time before the world cup! So we may peak, get lucky and win the WC again, then what? another 4 frustrating years of doldrums before we try for the next WC. Something's wrong!!

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-07-30 20:09

      That's my point..the same happened to England after 2003, they became very average and for them to continue to call themselves "world champs" whilst true, became a bit hollow after awhile. I wouldn't trade a WC trophy for our dominance between cups..far too much rugby is played in those four years to put up with mediocrity.We may not win the cup this time round, it is sport after all, but to remain no#1 in the world is in reality more important!!!

      Gideon Hanekom - 2011-07-31 04:39

      @bemused ... can tell you why .. i live in NZ and am involved with an ITM cup team .. politicians stay in the Beehive (Wellington) and don't interfere with rugby, except for fully supporting their team .. every child, woman and man has enormous respect for and pride in their AB team .. even when they're playing crap .. their development systems are in place and they appoint competent coaches on most levels .. but when it comes to the ABs, they don't compromise .. if you suck, you're gone ... the same with politicians ironically .. mess with a taxpayer's money like watching porn on your ministerial credit card, and you're gone .. in short .. achieving is still deemed more important than mere equal representation which leads to pride and self-confidence which effectively results in the same goals SA long for like transformation but can't understand why it's so hard to achieve ..

  • Ian Cornelius - 2011-07-30 15:27

    Who cares! I for one, have lost almost total interset in rugy and the reason has been the absolute rubbish overseen by the destruction of springbok rugby the the current bunch of incompetent coaching clowns. Just seeing them in their box on Tv during the match was sickening.

  • proudlyza - 2011-07-30 15:33

    This is basically a new team. So let's admit and say we lost, but any team with the experience of this team will be hammered by any team in the world, escpescailly on int'll scene. We just need to contiune at it and get these guys the exposure they need. And voila We'll come back....No regrets na excuses....John needs to go and so a few others....

  • pswart40 - 2011-07-30 15:53

    Bla bla bla, we will see how you measure up aginst our WC team, these were the youngsters that will succesfully defend the WC in 2015 again... Every WC the AB destroy teams before the WC, every year the the favs, every year the #1 on the rankings and every WC ... They choke, choke, choke... Have idiots not yet learned your lesson about peaking too early!!!

      GP - 2011-07-30 17:59

      Well we are supposed to be playing our best players as per the rules of the tri nations. So if we are really hiding our players that would be totally unethical and I really dont know if I would still want to be a part of this.

      rockster666 - 2011-07-31 01:52

      @pswart40 Is that the team currently in the nursing home habababa. Idiot

  • AA - 2011-07-30 15:57

    Another one for the record books, where is the depth Smith was talking about ? This was like playing Fiji for all the all blacks.

  • BallyAfrica - 2011-07-30 16:05

    Our defense has all of a sudden become poor over the past 2 seasons. Watching the games our players look to be sitting on there heels and waiting for oppostion to run at them. What has happened to our rush defence which worked so well for the boks in the past especially against the All Blacks. We are also not showing enough aggresiveness and urgency at ruck time. Credit to the AB'S they played good rugga and adapted well to the ref on the day. Lets be honest Allan Rowland is a poor ref anyway. But Ritchie and the boys are smart they test the ref early on with some border line play at ruck time and the offside line. if the ref is not picking it up frequently then they will carry on. Yes it might not be honest but winning to the AB'S is everything and every little helps. With regards to the scrums i would like to say that the laws are an absolute F#$*ING mess it wastes between 5 - 10 minutes a game resetting. Plus its a lottery who gets the penalty. The touch.........pause..............................................engage is a guessing game for the front rows. The irb needs to have a serious re think. Cause i reckon in the world cup it could play a huge factor and cost a team a victory. Imagine Semi final BOKS vs AB's boks up by 2 points 1 minute to go scrum on bok 10 meter line. Boks get the poor hit in the scrum from guessing when the ref is going to say engage. Scrum collapses...PENALTY! Dan Carter for three. Thanks very much BOKS go home.

      Kleinboet - 2011-07-31 16:24

      Stormers and WP defence is up to date. It's the rest of the country, who criticise us for not scoring enough tries, that shows no defence at all. Is it coincidence that those were the players who made up the disappointing Bokke team overseas? Defence will win us the RWC2011, but these guys think it is degrading (or something tantamount) to apply good defence! Tell you what: If that scenario should be reversed and it it's "Thanks very much NZ go home" I would not object! It will do us no good to complain about the laws and the referees. We must adjust and become smart like Ritchie and his boys.

  • dachshund118 - 2011-07-30 16:12

    The "B" team is surely missing the likes of Johan Sadie and Deon Fourie.

  • Eric West - 2011-07-30 16:29

    WTF is Helium Pete still doing there? Between him and the interfering ANC politicians, we will surely not even make the WC semis! Mark my words!

      Dave - 2011-07-30 17:09

      as a soccer fan, this to me seems to be the beginning of the end of SA as a rugby force..... lets be honest, football is their true national game....... better fans as well.... well liked in the world of sport, unlike their rugby fans. common ! face the facts!!...any proud rugby country would never put a team out to be humbled and embarassed like the SA were today.....shows compete lack of depth in their international squad.....SA rugby...RIP !

  • Kleinboet - 2011-07-30 17:03

    And don't forget the balls that were aimlessly kicked down filed by MS and were turned into converted tries by the AB's!

  • StephanM - 2011-07-30 17:11

    I cant wait for the 'A' team to fall flat on there asses during the WC. PdV is the end of SA rugby, whether you want to admit it or not!

      Gideon Hanekom - 2011-07-31 04:48

      he is getting help from two equally incompetent assistant coaches though ...

      Kleinboet - 2011-07-31 16:30

      StephanM, don't pray for something … you might just get it! Do you really want the Bokke to fail at the RWC2011 tournament? I also do not like PdV's way of doing things, but I am not prepaired to cut my nose to spoil my face. I keep on hoping that our players will stand tall and make me proud - despite PdV!

  • redeye - 2011-07-30 17:17

    Hey guys I'm not an expert but I thought one of the objects of the game is to tackle the opposition and not to escort them to our try line??????

      Northern Stormer - 2011-07-31 08:12

      Jip like Basson and Steyn did on several occassions - sad affair !!!!

  • redeye - 2011-07-30 17:22

    I can only think that Divs initial success was riding on the previous coach's success. it's now starting to wear of and the pigeons are coming home to roost.

  • Roy - 2011-07-30 17:32

    What a useless bunch of rugby players this team is.There should not be any excuses for the way these guys played. A or B team any player that puts the Springbok jersey on should play more than his best and give his all. These players all looked tired and out of breath in the first half already. Are they going to do better if the rest of the "crocks" join them?

  • Louis - 2011-07-30 18:46

    Don't fotget Black Beauty before the first WC the Ab(Cavaliers) toured SA defying the sports boycott. The Cavaliers at the time were the best AB side and we beat them 3-0 in the tests. The Ab team that went to the 87' WC was not the best AB side. Now just think what would have happened if the Boks played in the 87' WC. no doubt we would have wippeed the floor with them(AB) and won the first trouphy. In my opinion without the Boks at the first WC the AB can thank the sports boycott. Besdies that, the AB should change their name to somthing like All South Sea Islanders because the number of Tongans, Fijians and Samoans playing for the NZ teams and the AB is a bloody disgrace. NZ and Aus should be ashamed of themselves because of the way they are raping these Islanders of their top players. It's a bloody disgrace and that NZ and AUS dominated IRB should do something about it. Don't tell me because these Islanders were born in NZ it's only because the Islanders have not got the medical facilities.

  • Civil - 2011-07-30 20:28

    The Springbok backs need more Boerewors!!!! Why are they so skinny looking against the AB backs? More protein = more muscle.

  • BardofAvon - 2011-07-30 21:33

    "Just have to lift our game". What a pathetic thing to say.

  • Alan - 2011-07-30 22:32

    The boks have been hammered and only have themselves to blame. They were weak and unprofessional in both matches. I expected more. From these last 2 matches I would say watch out for Australia. They played the best against the Boks. The kiwis even though (after watching the game) they were always the better team still have Rolland to thank for 21 points. The boks just never knew what Rolland was going to call next, the idiot truly hates South Africa and picked up where he left off last season. Eg the forward pass try of Colin Slade, Richies tackle on Adi Jacobs to allow the first try in the 2nd half, he cleaned Jacobs out from the defensive line which allowed Jane through the hole and 60m later bam try and so it went with Rolland. The AB tackler never had to release once and that allowed easy as pie turnovers or they simply dived over SA ball mostly slowing it or turning it over. On 1 of the 2 occasions SA looked threatening, the ABs killed the ball in front of their posts by diving over the tackled player. So many erros Rolland just looked the other way and even when the ABs knocked on he was loath to award the ball to SA. I am the first to admit that SA were rightly humiliated in both games but todays would have been much closer (12 points maybe) if Rolland had at least been fair. We have clowns as coaches, our team lacked skill and fire and we had to fight the ref - impossible even on a good day. SA should leave the field if Rollands does this again - ala Aus.

  • horsehair - 2011-07-31 05:41

    I'm so embarrassed

  • Kleinboet - 2011-07-31 16:46

    These are not my favourite players - afterall, the team consisted almost exclusively of Bull and Shark players, and many not even good enough to get into the first teams of their struggling franchises - but we should not brand them as useless and even worse. Even these undergrade players would have done much, much better if they were coached together as a team. Coaching is what turn individuals into a team. Gold, Muir and De Villiers are all lightweight coaches and that let to our downfall. Note: I do not say we could have won overseas; but that we could have given proper account of ourselves. Hopefully Rassie Erasmus has been working with the players who stayed at home and will play a bigger role in events from now until after RWC2011. He could be Peter's Eddie Jones!

  • Nelson - 2011-07-31 19:17

    To address the choking banter that we get all the time, I would say yes we do have this strange choking phenomena, and to be honest I am a little nervous of my team the mighty All Blacks. But my fellow countrymen believe that we can win, we believe that hard work and training will get us through. Graham Henry and his men know the mountain they have to climb. The All Blacks are made from men that have endured hardships. The Crusaders team played their S15 season with their hearts on their sleeve, because of the earthquakes that still continue to rattle our most beautiful city. So many people including players have been affected. But these men can endure, especially world cup year. Many other nations don't realize how much this cup means to us, So to all you AB haters and admirers.. I am telling you! The All blacks are doing everything in their power, to give Canterbury, and the rest of this wonderful nation, a moment of history and a moment to be proud of forever. We are not scared anymore, we have embraced the choker tags, It does not bother us. When our men put on that black jersey, I assure you, they will be playing for the hearts of all New Zealanders. Pressure? No, pressure is succumbing to fear, the all blacks have no fear. This world cup is more than a trophy. Its more than a game. We are bringing that trophy and everything it represents back to its homeland... AOTEAROA, The land of the long white cloud, a nation that is home to 4 million proud people. Haere, kia kaha.

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