Boks buy more time

2011-08-09 14:29

Durban - Injury-plagued world champions South Africa have postponed until Thursday the announcement of the team to face Australia in the Tri-Nations this weekend.

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Coach Peter de Villiers planned to reveal his Springbok side on Tuesday afternoon but changed his mind because of doubts concerning back-row forwards Pierre Spies and Danie Rossouw.

Number eight Spies is battling to recover from a months-old groin injury and Northern Bulls team-mate Rossouw has been on a drip for several days to combat severe gastroenteritis.

If fit, both are set to face the Wallabies on Saturday at Kings Park with Heinrich Brussow, who has spent much of the past 18 months sidelined by various injuries, completing the back row.

Ashley Johnson and Ryan Kankowski, who can play flank or number eight, were called up on Monday as cover and there has been media speculation here that Willem Alberts could also be considered despite not being in the 27-strong squad.

South Africa, who suffered heavy losses in Australia and New Zealand last month after 21 mainly first-choice players could not travel because of injuries, have been particularly hard hit by back-row problems.

Schalk Burger and Juan Smith are training with the Springboks but have been ruled out of the Kings Park showdown and hopes of long-term casualty Duane Vermeulen being available for World Cup selection are dwindling.

Only two of the team outclassed 40-7 by the All Blacks in Wellington late last month - skipper and hooker John Smit and number eight Rossouw - are expected to start against Australia.

A new backline would see Francois Steyn at fullback, JP Pietersen and Bryan Habana on the wings, Jaque Fourie and Jean de Villiers in the centre postions, Butch James playing flyhalf and Fourie du Preez at scrumhalf.

All bar injured De Villiers started in the 15-6 Rugby World Cup final victory over England in Paris four years ago although Steyn was a centre then with now retired Percy Montgomery the full-back.

After playing with rookie props Dean Greyling and Werner Kruger in Australasia, 104-cap Smit is likely to have much more experienced support this weekend in the shape of loosehead Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira and tighthead Jannie du Plessis.

The long-serving lock partnership of Bakkies Botha and Victor Matfield is set to resume active service while, fitness permitting, Brussow, Rossouw and Spies form the loose trio.

South Africa complete their Tri-Nations schedule on August 20 against the New Zealand All Blacks in Port Elizabeth and launch the defence of the world title against Wales on September 11 in Wellington.


  • BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 14:36

    ATTENTION ALL READERS: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE LATEST IS ON PIERRE SPIES' INJURY? We need Pierre back as soon as possible or we can forget about being competitive in the World Cup.

      fullmoon - 2011-08-09 14:46

      pull the other one, it's got bells on it...or are you just talking bull, a whole big lot?

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 14:51

      Please elaborate on your comment. Thank you in advance.

      Uhuru - 2011-08-09 14:54

      wat rook jy ou maat daai ou kannie n afbreekpunt skoonmaak met n trok vol Mr. Min nie. Hy dra niks by tot die vaste-los nie en sy laagvatte kan beter beskryf word as mis-vatte. Bal in hand is hy fantasties, maar die manier waarop die bokke speel sal maak dat hy min na nooit die bal met enige spasie sal he nie. Dissie sy skuld nie, maar hy pas nie in ons patroon in nie en sy verdediging is nie goed genoeg vir internasionale spel nie. Haal daai 3D blou brille van jou kop af jy kan hull weer volgende week dra by JJ harmse se pool paartie.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 15:02

      Uhuru, Pierre gebruik nie Mr Min nie en dis nie nodig om lelik te wees nie.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-08-09 15:06

      WTF....Pierre Spies is a show pony. We need work horses. Loose forwards that are prepared to get their hands dirty.

      Uhuru - 2011-08-09 15:07

      ja ok sorrie dit was onnodig. Ek skuld jou n bier.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 15:12

      Dankie Uhuru, dit vat 'n man om jammer te kan se.

      WP rugby10 - 2011-08-09 15:53

      Pierre Spies is te veel van 'n gentleman, hy moet 'n Richie McCaw/Duane Vermeulen houding kry, dan is hy reg vir die rugby wat in die 2011 RWC gespeel gaan word.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 16:24

      Yes that is all we talked about for years now. The injuries to Spies. How can he not be a disadvantage to the Bok side ?

      SouthernersBKK - 2011-08-09 17:53

      mate honestly, do you have any rugby knowledge, I think you have some weird fetish for him or something. Just cuz he's got big guns and endorses USN doesn't make him a world class rugby player. He wouldn't make my loose trio. Jog on and go watch some youtube videos of him or something while you get aroused.

      jase880 - 2011-08-09 17:58

      I'm still not convinced about Spies - he doesn't seem to get involved like, say, Kieran Reed, Willem Alberts, Ashley Johnson or even Vermuelen (though I'm not a huge Vermuelen fan either). I think our back three should be Alberts, Heinrich and Juan Smith, with Schalk and Deysel on the bench.

      Obama Bin Laden - 2011-08-09 20:35

      @Uhuru - don't apologise for such a brilliant chirp. JJHarmse se pool As for Biggest Bull, I'm so glad you've returned to this forum. If it weren't for clowns like you there'd be no one to take the p**** out of

      Petras - 2011-08-09 23:57

      Biggest Bull, did your parents just buy you a new computer or did you just discover the internet or what’s up man???

      Koos - 2011-08-10 05:29

      I am sorry for Pierre that he is injured BUT has anyone watched Pierre's last 10 games? He is the easiest forward to defend amongst the SA pack of forwards. He is one dimentional trying to run over the opponents and of his last 10 games he had one good game where he actually made a difference. I wil much rather go to the world cup with Ashly Johnson.

      roboman1 - 2011-08-10 06:05

      Well, it is obvious that the majority disagree with you Biggest Bull, by far

  • BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 14:43

    Alberts is extremely injury prone. A bit of a softy to be honest.

      fullmoon - 2011-08-09 14:48

      ja, and spies can't tackle

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 14:51

      I disagree.

      5 slot - 2011-08-09 15:01

      thinnest book in the world? How to tackle, by Pierre Spies

      On the Verge - 2011-08-09 15:35

      Why don't you boys get a room. But I have to agree with fullmoon - that Spies is defensively average, useless at ruck time. Alberts and Russouw are too slow for 8th man, Kanko has lost form and intensity, and doesn't fit into the bok game plan. So I'd say pick our best three loosies. Brousouw at openside, Smith at blindside (when fit), and Burger at 8th man, with Deysel, Alberts and Kanko as subs.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 16:20

      Spies is the same, injury prone, do you agree ?

      realist - 2011-08-09 16:32

      If Spies cannot tackle what do you guys say about our wings? Their defense is non existent.

      Ozymandios - 2011-08-09 16:36

      And Spies is not injury prone?

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 16:50

      Where did i mention Pierre?

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 17:59

      Reading this. Why are we even talking about Spies ?

      Obama Bin Laden - 2011-08-09 20:36

      @Biggest Bull - when we say Spies can't tackle we're not talking about when he tackles you in bed

  • jochem - 2011-08-09 15:00

    Ag tog, Div, playing games again. Why don't you let the Boks rather play a decent games on the field?

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 15:06

      I feel relieved!

  • Ozman - 2011-08-09 15:04

    Bok's are simply not up to scratch...................

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 15:07

      Wait, Pierre Spies is almost back and when that happens he will the necessary impact.

  • BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 15:12

    Mike, SHOW PONY??! Are you being sarcastic?

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-08-09 15:33

      Of course I am not being sarcastic....she would wet her panties if she were to ruin her manicured finger nails....leave the rough stuff to the boys.

  • BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 16:04

    Hi everyone, Let's show our support for Pierre Spies by clicking the Like button below this comment. Thanks!

  • Drewka - 2011-08-09 16:06

    @uhuru ek stem saam met jou ou, Spies se dae is verby. Gee vir Johnson of Kanko 'n beurt.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 17:37

      Dont be a player-hater.

  • Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 16:15

    I think this shows that the injury list that most people were suspicious off was pretty much correct ! Thanks to the coaching staff and management of the Boks

  • Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-09 17:19

    @BIGGEST BULL!! I think you are talking alot of BULL. Pierre Spies needs RED BULL. He was a good player and is currently NOT a good player, FULLSTOP!!!!

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 17:34

      What's your point, Razz?

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 18:02

      Biggest Bull. He means, Spies is not a good player anymore.

      BM123 - 2011-08-09 21:45

      You sure Barry? I thought he was a little vague. Easy to see how BB could misunderstand!

  • jacquesalthea.knotter - 2011-08-09 18:07

    If you look at what Pierre Spies does and how many guys he draws in.Guys just take note .He is not injured for nothing,Please wake up .Let them take Spies out and a few other bulls players and watch SA get a complete hiding again.mark my words..

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 18:24

      Well said Knotter!

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 19:16

      Oh great ! And we carry him him to NZ with all his injuries ?

  • Yoda - 2011-08-09 18:48

    Spies has lost his ability to break the line, we need to realise that most of the RWC XV are not in form, we need to be realsitic that we will not go past the SF against NZ in RWC2011. OR it will be hugely tough going. All teams go through this phase, look at Aust 2005 - lost all the Larkams, Gregons, Eales, Smiths and co, they had to start again with youngsters. We are now facing the same ship. Our war vets are past their prime. We need to feed the youngster in soon, this TN tour was not great, combos and confidence needs to be rebuilt. Pvd needs to think past reputation and field the best we have in the country now. Smit, Spies, Botha (yellow card collector), Habana, need to get sorted. We don't even have a suitable captain after the RWC. SARU is not thinking ahead. The next 2 weeks will determine our RWC year. If we suck, lets go and do what we can in RWC. And build for the next RWC. We have a HUGE talent pool in SA right now, with more than enough world class players, who can win RWC2015. SARU and Pvd have not prepared the boks for this RWC. Lets leave the politics out of it, and please lets get down to business and get SA RUGBY back to what it was.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-08-09 19:05

      I agree with Yoda. Although he is more optimistic than I am. If we get through through the quarter finals we should be relieved and then hope for the best. Of course I want the Boks to be the first country to retain the RWC. I hope it will happen. But lets face it there are three or four sides in the world that can win this thing.

  • Travis - 2011-08-09 19:24

    How about playing Schalk at 8 with Brussow and Smith the flankers. And pick Bismarck. With Schalk, Brussow and Bismarck playing towards the ball we should be able to counter McCaw & Poccock at the breakdowns

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-09 20:24

      That wont work.

      Superfish - 2011-08-10 02:02

      @BB Why?? I think you like the sound of your key board typing away. I say bring in Ashley J he is probably quicker and plays harder than Spies anyway

  • crocowild - 2011-08-09 20:51

    Winning the ball at the breakdown points at worldcup time and the retention of these balls will be key to winning the worldcup .If you don t play Schalk Burger,Heinrich Brussouw and Francois Louw or Derek Minnie if Francois is not available,you can forget about the worldcup.

  • ozzymate - 2011-08-10 05:01

    g/day whats the matter with you boks? your coach cant seem to make up your minds about who is playing us Ozzies or not. then he is embarrassed with your game,then the coach is 90% sure you will win with rwc, , then he selects a team , then he changes his mind due to injuries, or then you have a too young team then have too old crocs coming on.Even ex coaches must tell him what to do ? WTF going on mate, Do you blokes even know what day it is? Why dont you blokes save yourselves the embarrassment this saturday and the next with the alblcks. forfeit the game this saturday, go home have a beer and let it go, huh? we understand. we can wait for you in 2015 rwc by then you blokes should have some idea what day it is huh? huh

  • - 2011-08-10 08:13

    How is Duane Vermeulen doing? Will he be ready by the WC?

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