Noakes has sympathy for Bryce

2012-10-20 11:06

Cape Town - South African sport scientist Tim Noakes has shown retired Kiwi referee Bryce Lawrence some sympathy, suggesting two referees in rugby should be considered.

Retirement was earlier this week forced upon Lawrence after the vitriol he suffered from the fall-out after the Springboks' 11-9 loss to the Wallabies in the quarter-finals at last year's Rugby World Cup. He will now take up a role as the New Zealand Rugby Union high-performance referee reviewer.

Noakes told the Beeld website the idea of having an extra referee on the field - as is the case in American football - may not be such a bad idea.

"You need more than one referee in big games, especially during the Rugby World Cup. World rugby has to consider it - if a guy like Bryce Lawrence can be put under pressure, what prevents it from happening to other referees in future as well?" said Noakes.

This comes after Lawrence said in an interview with the Bay of Plenty Times that he felt pressure coming from the Australian camp after he refereed an earlier game the Wallabies lost to Ireland.

"There was some pretty nasty political stuff going on about that appointment. I refereed Australia versus Ireland and Ireland had won but behind the scenes guys like John O'Neill (the then ARU boss) were kicking up a massive stink.

"I knew a bit about that and it was enough to affect me, and it probably made me freeze on the biggest stage," said Lawrence.

Noakes feels it is important that Lawrence admitted he made mistakes. "It shows Lawrence has a conscience and maybe we can forgive him for his sins. He realised he can't live with it and made it public."


  • ben.spreeth - 2012-10-20 11:25

    Two referees wont solve the problem of poor refereeing. There are already four in attendance at every match. Some are good, some bad but the IRB are sorting the bad ones out now.

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-10-20 11:25

    Bryce is so retired he just refereed the ITM cup Semi today Wellingon v Auckland.

  • - 2012-10-20 11:30

    What a lying bastard.He was doing what he was told to do by the NZRU. Hence the recognition by them appointing him as high performance referee reviewer. Suggest Noakes keep his a..hole mouth shut.

  • tamlin.vanheerver - 2012-10-20 11:33

    2 referees? WTF... why not just have a system like they do in Tennis, each team gets X amount of challenges per game. You can't have 2 referees running around holding hands, and then what happens if they disagree? You would need 3 referees to rule fairly!

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-20 11:33

    Leave the rugby Noakes, stick with your protein vs carbs.

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-20 11:38

      Agreed. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. He had a job to do, like everyone else. If I don't produce, I get my butt kicked. You never did your job, Bryce, so stop feeling sorry for yourself.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-20 11:39

      Yes - maybe he followed an earlier Noakes hi-carb diet before he reffed that (!) game - which makes Noakes a co-conspirator . . . . . .

      hermann.schwindt - 2012-10-20 11:41

      Lol, good one

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-20 11:44

      Sometimes I think Noakes is a big ANC supporter, he loves the comrades!!

  • ryandeansa - 2012-10-20 11:40

    Does news24 have Tim on speed dial?

  • john.loveland.9 - 2012-10-20 11:58

    Tim now a rugby professional? Its just an opinion, why print his opinion as if it holds some sort of "value"

      paddy.carolan.35 - 2012-10-20 14:02

      Jack of all trades, and master of none. He doesn't even know what to eat and now he is a boffin on rugby.

  • sello.r.molefe - 2012-10-20 12:03

    Tim I shall forgive u am sure you do feel sori for cheats like Lance.. Not sure what is he on about, if u froze at that level then go and referee the under 10s.. To Oom Tim Lets go and have beer boet but be warn jus warn don't utter such trash next to a bok fan cos he will perform a bar surgery on ur face...

  • dewald.botha.50 - 2012-10-20 12:12

    Met so statement! Dink jy nie jy moet aftree nie!

  • annelise.vanderschyff - 2012-10-20 12:30

    Noakes please retire we cannot all be wrong

  • nico.prinsloo - 2012-10-20 13:02

    O gosh, save us TWO Bryces in the same game, Tim!

  • robert.reeve.7564 - 2012-10-20 13:08

    He's a reptile and I'm sure well compensated in his retirement by the silver fern rugby mafia that runs deep enough to reward him with NZ's referee of the year after winning the RWC. That made them all accessories after the fact, with him their hero. Bryce Lawrence is about as sorry as a croc that's just eaten the last fat abo...

      calvin.cona - 2012-10-20 14:00

      I like your statement

  • johnnycranko - 2012-10-20 13:22

    Why stop at 2 referees? Go mental, 15 refs a match, all with their own whistles and an x ray machine while they're at it.

  • francois.v.eeden.3 - 2012-10-20 14:38

    why don't he rather stick to his dangerous diet plans...

  • jason.dutoit - 2012-10-20 18:37

    a second ref at scrum time would be good. whichever side of the scrum is hidden from the ref always flouts the law...

  • malcolm.j.patterson.1 - 2012-10-20 19:01

    Very generous Dr Noakes but the man has already confessed to to being incompetent, this of course being the lesser of the 2 evils. If one is incompetent then one would expect the same mistakes to go both ways but seeing as the man was an outright cheat and not just the village idiot it only went one way. BL I'm sure this makes you a hero in both Aussie & NZ .

  • richard.cairns.777 - 2012-10-20 19:07

    Cheating ln sport is unforgivable. Ask Mr Armstrong\r\nIt's the same as steeling.

  • mark.knight.14418 - 2012-10-21 01:00

    As I recall, Noakes explicitly accused Lawrence of cheating after that QF match. Quite a turnaround, this...

  • jason.marshall.1804 - 2012-10-21 06:52

    The wheel turns.

  • thelma.flynn.96 - 2012-10-21 09:10

    What comes round goes round. Ag shame

  • clive.kihn - 2012-10-21 09:32

    Refs have TWO assistants, Tim - they used to be called touch judges. Unfortunately, the majority of them don't manage to keep up with the play - hence the huge number of forward passes missed - and tend to stick their flags out for imaginery foul play (which often turns out to be no more than "handbags at five paces" stuff). TJs need to be fitter, and empowered to tell the ref, over the headphones and mikes they all have, that he is missing a few tricks at breakdowns, etc. Instead, they are too timid in situations when they could make a real difference. We won't miss Bryce, by the way.

  • hilda.jansevanrensburg - 2012-10-21 13:00

    I thought you were a dietician, Tim.

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