Stormers v Bulls fetcher-free?

2012-03-26 13:41

Cape Town - At least in the team line-ups at Newlands on Saturday, we may see some evidence that Jake White is right: fetchers really are placed on this planet simply for getting him his beer from the fridge.

Unless Deon Stegmann is considered properly fit - or worthy - enough to be restored to the Bulls team after his hamstring injury, neither they nor the Super Rugby-leading Stormers are likely to boast a specialist open-side flank in Saturday’s big derby clash (19:10 kick-off).

How each side copes in that reasonably rare event, could go a long way to determining the winners in what is being viewed by some pundits as a fixture almost too tight to call.

Before the 61-8 slaughter of defending champions the Reds at Loftus last weekend, the Bulls reportedly felt Stegmann was touch-and-go for the clash, and eventually opted against including him with longer-range thoughts of the south-north sizzler in mind.

If the Springbok-capped scavenger is deemed ready for action in the Cape, however, a new dilemma presents itself to coach Frans Ludeke and his brains trust: is it advisable to tamper with such a convincing, winning combination?

After all, Stegmann can be even more prone to penalty concession than various other fetchers are in Super Rugby, and there is a case for sticking to the loose forward status quo which fired so impressively against the Queenslanders: revitalised captain Pierre Spies, the rugged Jacques Potgieter and “emergency” No 6 CJ Stander.

Stander is a promising young talent more suited to No 8 and, as another strong ball-carrier, perhaps also blindside flank.

But against the Reds, the home team had so much front-foot oomph and retained their own ball so much better than they did in the earlier defeat to the Blues that having a low-centre-of-gravity, particularly mobile pilferer didn’t turn out to be a major requirement.

In short, Stegmann wasn’t massively missed.

Ludeke may be torn between two views on the Stormers game: fielding a fit Stegmann would give him the comfort of knowing his side possessed the only specialist at No 6 on the day, but by not choosing him he would hardly be losing too much because of the awareness that the opposition will be in exactly the same boat by sporting three more “upright” loosies.

The Stormers are presently soldiering on, unbeaten - and thus fairly successfully - without captain Schalk Burger to patrol the open side.

It has been less of a train smash than some experts might have feared, bearing in mind that they also surrendered the fetching qualities of Francois Louw to Bath after last season.

In the absence of Louw and then also Burger, the Stormers have not too obviously come up short on the deck, with the immense overall work-rates of Siya Kolisi, Duane Vermeulen and Nick Koster and other members of the pack compensating to a good degree.

Still, there were times in the unexpectedly close-shave, exhausting victory over the under-strength Lions on Saturday when the Stormers did look a little vulnerable in 50-50 contesting situations at breakdowns and a “mole” might have come in handy.

One area where the Lions have not been too affected in their injury hoodoo, after all, has been at loose forward, where Derick Minnie led the hungry charge on the floor, Josh Strauss also engineered some turnovers and Warren Whiteley grafted like a Trojan - they also had the luxury of another fetcher of repute in Cobus Grobbelaar available for late deployment off the bench.

The Stormers have been relatively happy, for whatever reason, to largely overlook the match-day squad credentials of someone like Rohan Kitshoff, the nuggety Namibian international and former Griquas open-sider who is much more involved with the Western Province team at Vodacom Cup level right now.

So will Stegmann fight the dedicated fetching cause alone at Newlands on Saturday, or will Ludeke effectively go along with “Jake White theory” and just not bother?

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  • Grant - 2012-03-26 14:03

    This is the one area where Stormers are being beaten on a regular basis.......F Louw is being missed very badly. This is why Stormers are winning ' ugly' and are losing the possession stakes so badly. Put a Brussow in that Stormers set up and that team would be real contenders !!

      Jason - 2012-03-26 16:57

      Completely agree with that. That said we are only playing the bulls, maybe when the big games start we can look to fetchers.

      Jack - 2012-03-26 17:08

      Don't worry - we'll buy him in the off season when the Cheetahs get relegated...

      Nicholas - 2012-03-26 17:14

      Unfortunately for the Stormers, I think they are going to get hurt this weekend.

      Jason - 2012-03-27 08:22

      @Grant, although we are missing an out and out fetcher, I thought when Kolisi is not required to clear out he doesn't do a bad job at stealing a few balls. This means Andries and Eben need to work extra hard to give him that opportunity.

  • Andre - 2012-03-26 14:15

    die papsak mense van Slaapstad het geen rugbyspelers nie

      Lionel - 2012-03-26 14:19

      Great comment,keep it up!!!!!!

      lourens.jordaan - 2012-03-26 14:26

      Ou andre jy het seker nagte wakker gele om die comment uit te dink. Gaaaaaaaaaaaap

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 14:27

      En die 'jean pant', leathers and black 'check me back' shade crew from up north have no taste......

      Elaine - 2012-03-26 15:15

      nie almal van ons is papsak mense nie - van ons drink uit die bottel uit!

      solliebc - 2012-03-26 15:50

      uit die bottel uit want ons kan en ons het al ons rugbyspelers noorde toe gepos want daar is te veel regte rugbyspelers in die noorde

      Jason - 2012-03-26 16:59

      Andre, I dont speak Brickhead but appreciate your desire to drink a papsak whilst watching us whip your miserable blue bum.

  • davieoosie - 2012-03-26 14:39

    Wie de hel het die pienk truie uitgedink? Ek kry skaam man! Ons gaan dit nog kry hierdie jaar. Nogtans is die bulle die beste span en ek sien uit na 'n lekker game Saterdag. Albei spanne speel goed hierdie jaar. Hoop die pienk verwar die vyand.

      WP - 2012-03-26 14:55

      @davieDoosie ,your in denial bru,your one of the tail gunners from Moftus .

      davieoosie - 2012-03-26 17:07

      Ons gesels volgende week weer WPEESTER.

  • hans.vanrooyen - 2012-03-26 14:49

    Sal CJ en kie van die begin af speel! Ek wnder of ons die werklike waarde van n Jacques Potgieter basef?? BRILJANT!!!!!!

      jack.oosthuysen - 2012-03-26 15:04

      Baie slim opmerking Hansie.

  • Saffa - 2012-03-26 14:57

    Well if the Stormers can barely beat the Lions C-team, the Bulls can field their E-team and still win by 20

      Dirk - 2012-03-26 15:54

      Jou rugbykennis is verstommend. Die simbool is seker n FF.

      Priester - 2012-03-26 15:56

      Nee jong Saffa nou wil jy die dam onner die eend se h*l uit ruk!! Die papsakke is k#k maar nie sooooo k#k nie. Blou Bul Groete!

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 16:14

      @Dirk Sorry, the Bulls can field their FF team and win by 20

      Jason - 2012-03-26 16:18

      Fake Saffa you are a sad sad little man. What jollies do you get out of copying Saffa Cats's profile pic and name! Are you Bipolar? Because it astonishes me that you never have any constructive comments to make about rugby, all you do is bad mouth anyone who isnt a Bull. And from what I understand, you ran away from your country to go and live in Canada. So stop commenting on South African Rugby because you are not South African, go and find an Ice Hockey chat room and irritate the Canucks!

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-26 16:38

      Jason, please leave the Psychological mumbo jumbo for us professionals. Bipolar is a mood disorder that causes moodswings, from one extreme to the next. An easy example would be a Stormers/WP supporter before (extremely happy) and after (extremely sad) a play-off game. There are sometimes a 'normal' period inbetween (during the match). I applaud your effort, though.

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 16:41

      @Jason Nou die Blou!!!

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 16:42

      @JasonEye How many chins do you have, is it 10 or 11? Like the amount of years your team has been without a cup

      Jason - 2012-03-26 17:00

      Funny that you say that but I thought the bulls only fielded an E team.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-26 17:23

      Maestro, why did you feel the need to tell us that you have a lot of friends who are doctors? Self-esteem issues perhaps?

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 17:53

      @Maestro Janitors are well paid in Canada. Bulls by 20 at least, drink jou papsakkie ou vettie

      Jason - 2012-03-27 08:05

      @Bulldozer, bipolar wasn't the best word I could use obviously, i realized that straight after posting.........I was pissed off with this Muppet you seem to be defending, which is a concern. Like Izak for the Stormers (embarrassing) we all have supporters who embarrass us. @Fake Saffa, comment all you like about my weight, I really could give a F%$k! I am who i am, no fake here. the pics are me, the Name is my own and I have nothing to hide! When you start commenting under your real name with a real photo of yourself then i might take you seriously! although i doubt it!

      Jason - 2012-03-27 09:11

      @Dozer, just one other thing regarding the Bipolar issue, the word i was looking for but failed to locate was schizophrenia. if you look at other blogs this Muppet says something then answers himself as another Saffa! Im assuming of course that Saffa Spies, Saffa Olivier and Saffa Blue are all the same person. If not then there are more morons out there than i at first thought. Bottom line is he is definitely dancing to a different tune!

  • patrickjasoncawood - 2012-03-26 15:50

    Not a great fan of the Blue Bulls but hope you smash the Stormers this w-end

      jack.oosthuysen - 2012-03-26 16:08

      It will be the safest bet in this tournament. Bulls to win by at least 28 points.

      Jason - 2012-03-26 17:01

      Bulls are going to see the ass this weekend.

      jack.oosthuysen - 2012-03-26 17:17

      JKing , what are you stating. Gay language?

      Jason - 2012-03-26 19:32

      No but some things when viewed through queer eyes may read that way.

  • Ronnie - 2012-03-26 16:50

    Bulls fan! I hope our coach fields Steggies to scavenge at the breakdowns because Derrick Minnie was hurting the Stormerz at the breakdowns, he must bring CJ to close the game owt, the youngster is such a damaging ball-carrier.

      Jason - 2012-03-26 17:02

      A damaging ball carrier to Australian teams, but they gonna take him off the field against quality opposition.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-26 17:07

      We'll have to wait until next week before we face quality opposition.

      Jason - 2012-03-26 19:33

      Hahaha Bulldaisy seems your post from last week only got put up now.

  • mark.nancarrow - 2012-03-26 19:32

    Stegmann wasnt missed at all, Beau Robinson has no effect and he is a specialist fetcher. CJ Stander was incredible and Arno Botha off the bench was pretty impressive to. Obviously Jacques Potgieter deserves his place and sideways Spies will play 8. Leave Steggies at home he really isnt that good. Will be intresting to see Kolisi up against a slightly more physical loose trio tho. Kolisi has springbok written all over him. Should be a humdinger, but Stormers will edge it by about 5.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-26 19:47

      Mark, if you want to talk rugby with the manne and Stormers supporters, you must finish school first. Geniet jou vakansie.

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 19:51

      @Mark Go play with your sister. The Bulls trio will be the Bok trio. There is no place for any Stome (ja sonne tanne) in the current Bok team

      Aubrey - 2012-03-26 19:56

      Kolisi springbok material? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... No wonder you guys don't bring any cups

  • Christopher Zoony De Croes - 2012-03-26 19:53

    its gonna be massive !!! stormers to just win it i say. guys will be motivated to do well, backline will click, hope van den heever plays :) :)

      Saffa - 2012-03-26 20:11

      @Christopher How on earth can you say that?! Are you just looking for attention or are you just f$%n stupid. The Bulls are totally in a different class than the Stormers man. Go breed with your family

      Saffa - 2012-03-27 21:49

      @Maestro How is it that you have been unable to win a Super trophy in the history of the tournament?

  • Johnnie - 2012-03-26 20:21

    Stegmann was missed against the Blues - as was Hougaardt & Morne's accuracy!

  • Lal - 2012-03-31 18:55

    Watch Stormers vs Bulls- Super 15 Live Now! Stormers vs Bulls The Super 15 Rugby 2012 – Week 6 Venue: Newlands Stadium, Cape Town Date: Sat 31 Mar 2012, KO: 19:10 Local, 19:10 SA, 18:10 UK, Sun 1 Apr 6:10 NZ, Sun 1 Apr 4:10 NSW/ACT

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