Stormers set to change gear

2011-05-03 08:01

Gavin Rich - SuperSport

Johannesburg - DHL Stormers coach Allister Coetzee acknowledges that his team will be going into a different phase of the Super Rugby season from this week, with the derby phase being put behind them until the last two league matches against the Toyota Cheetahs and Vodacom Bulls in June.

However, while the Stormers have got it spot on this season by bringing to the derby fixtures what perhaps they lacked in the past, namely physicality and a half-crazed aggressive mentality, Coetzee believes the core ingredients of their approach to derby matches will have to be retained for the long awaited clash with the Crusaders at Newlands on Saturday.

Six of the nine matches played so far by the Stormers have been against fellow South African teams, and only one of those games, the most recent one against the Sharks, saw them pick up a bonus point for scoring four tries. But apart from the opening fixture against the Lions, when the Stormers were at a disadvantage because of a first round bye, all the other wins against local teams have been by quite comfortable margins.

And that includes wins against the Bulls and the Sharks (twice), the two teams that beat them in finals last year where the Stormers were criticized for being bossed physically by their opponents. Coetzee and his staff placed a big premium on upping the physicality of their approach, and they have been rewarded by being able to easily outmuscle and maybe even intimidate both the Sharks and Bulls in three matches.

“Maybe it is a sign that we have now learned how to play derby games, we know how physical you need to be to win those games,” agreed Coetzee.

Coetzee did not say so, but the proportion of derbies to fixtures against overseas teams thus far may be at the heart of his team’s failure until the most recent match to put together the attacking plays that the Newlands faithful appear to demand. Derbies generally don’t produce great attacking rugby, and tend to be dominated by testosterone and play out as an arm-wrestle.

A second look at the Sharks match on video on Sunday brought home just how brutally physical the game was, and the level of aggression, which translated into a number of off-the-ball incidents which in retrospect it was surprising some of them weren’t cited, was something seldom if ever seen from a Stormers or Western Province team.

It was almost as if the Stormers were over-compensating for the way they were man-handled by teams like the Sharks and the Bulls in the past, and Coetzee, when asked about it, referred only to the comments made after the game by the Sharks coach John Plumtree.

“I think Plum summed it up, I don’t think there is any more that needs to be said on the matter,” said Coetzee.

What Plumtree said was that the physicality in the South African game had shifted to the south, and that the Stormers had now opened a wide gap on his team by doing to the Sharks what the Sharks used to do to them.

But while he knows that the matches against overseas teams might bring a slightly different mentality and will be approached in a different way by the protagonists than derby matches are, Coetzee is also clearly mindful of the contributing factor to their solitary defeat so far to the Reds.

Although it was chiefly because they were out-kicked that day that the Stormers lost, the way the Reds unexpectedly fronted them in the physical exchanges and made it impossible for them to get into the game through provision of front-foot ball was a massive part of it.

“We ned to front up with physical intensity against any team, and for 80 minutes. The Force did it for 60 minutes against Crusaders and then disappeared, and look what happened. We cannot afford to do the same against the Crusaders as they are an excellent team, almost a complete side,” said Coetzee.

“You’ve got to pitch up with that physical intensity (of the Sharks match), otherwise you will be bullied and get shunted and shoved around. And when you have the ball, it is up to your ball carriers to run hard and put pressure on your opponents, to get on top of them, imposing yourself physically.

“I suppose the challenge is different, and the mental approach will be different this weekend. But the physical intensity still has to be there.” Of course Coetzee knows from experience how important physical dominance is against the Crusaders as it was the key ingredient in their 42-14 win over the Crusaders last April.

“I think the Crusaders are a lot stronger this time, some of the big name players they have now, such as Sean Maitland and Robbie Fruean, were just starting out back then. And then of course there is Sonny Bill Williams, who brings something completely different to the challenge with his ability to off-load,” said the coach.

“I think that the game against us is a game they have been building towards, and likewise with us. We are looking forward to testing ourselves against such classy players. It is what the sport at this level is all about - testing yourself against the best. It is one of the reasons all the guys have been so looking forward to this game.”


  • Brannas - 2011-05-03 08:24

    Low gear, dit is die enigste gear oor vir die stormakies, van nou af net opdraende vir hulle.

      MoZaHo - 2011-05-03 08:53

      Sharks supporter perhaps?

      gooinat - 2011-05-03 09:08

      Mozaho,Brannas is a Bulls supporter,he gives geniune Bulls supporters a real bad name,even they want to beat the cr@p out of him,need I say more about this village idiot.......

      Howzitekse - 2011-05-04 02:37

      Stormers did not need to be in gear against the Bulls. Freewheeled over them. The Crusaders are however a much classier team than the Bulls, and will be a True test for the mighty Stormers.

  • Lloyd - 2011-05-03 08:29

    Can't wait till the gearbox packs up in the final. Against whoever.

      David - 2011-05-03 08:35

      spoken like a true sportsman. Totally unbiased!

      WPBEFONK - 2011-05-03 08:37

      Go to HELL!!!!! You are a RED BULL, but we'll GRIND the HELL out of you come 11 June 2011....Daai dag hardloop Bryan Habana, Jaque ,Jean, Gio en andere DRAAIE om die ROOI BULLE....

      WPBEFONK - 2011-05-03 08:38

      At least you are BOLD to ADMIT that we(THE SORMERS) will play in the FINAL. Thanks for that, RED BULL...

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 08:44

      BALSAK, to reach the final means nothing. To win does.

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-03 08:45

      @WPBEFONK "Daai dag hardloop Bryan Habana DRAAIE om die ROOI BULLE" NE nogal? Bryan Habana het laas 'n draai om iemand gehardloop in 'n Bulls try, nou val hy net rond en sit sy hande op sy kop, smile vir die kamera en sê vir die manne gee my nog 'n kans. Die ROOI BULLE was 'n once off, jy moet bietjie by kom, want die Bulle kom met daai blou truie op julle party, jou stoep en tafelberg k$k

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-03 08:46

      Glad that you have decided, in your mind, that the Stormers will get into the final! Things are looking just get your mind set right and say to yourself 'there is nothing wrong with the gearbox'. There is hope for you yet!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 09:06

      @Jaque - my but you are a classy chap aren't you?

      WPBEFONK - 2011-05-03 09:10

      Lloyd, that is exactly what is going to happen. We are the next SUPER CHAMPIONS of the WORLD. And you know it, admit it, don't be so arrogant and shy. From BALSAK...

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 09:25

      Ja BALSAK en jy is die champ van wishful thinking.

      WPBEFONK - 2011-05-03 09:34

      But let's face it LLoyd, we are going to win the Title this year. Take my word for it, on SATURDAY we'll beat our opponents by 10. And I think we'll play against the same Crusaders in the final. Your view??

      MaestroX - 2011-05-03 09:47

      Lloyd you are such a tonsil, you even look like one, and your daft comments are about as useful too. Shame, must be so hard for you to see your beloved "red cows" playing such pathetic rugby. One major difference between Stormers and Sharks supporters to your so called supporters is the refusal to support any SA team that make it to the final, given they are playing an non SA side. Your bonehead supporters (all 2000 of them, nice attendance on the weekend by the way) would rather see an Aussie or NZ side beat a Sharks/Stormers/Cheetahs team, just because your team is now not winning. Yes they were fantastic the last 4 years, and as a SA supporter and a Stormers fan, I was very proud of them winning! But do me a favour, grow up, maybe grow some balls you little squirt and give credit when it’s due. I guess the only thing that will shut your little trap is when we have a chat on the Monday after the game between the cows and the Stormers. Till then, grow a set you ignorant little turd.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 09:54

      No Maestro, I support any S.A. team against foreign opposition. It's only the Stormers whom I detest, since birth by the way. It's grow a 'pair' not 'set' for interest sake. BALSAK, the Stormers to lose against the Crusaders or Reds in some play-off game. That's my view.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:05

      Habana se reverse gear is enigste rat wat nog werk,Reverse gear is al die Stormers se voorland van Saterdag al

      bakkebul - 2011-05-03 10:13

      I think the Stormers were absolutely sublime on Saturday and I look forward to watching them for the rest of the series. But and it’s a big BUT: come quarter finals we will see the true character of the teams. Go and have a look at the Vodacom Cup log and see what happened to the Golden Lions in the quarter finals. At this point in time my money is on the Stormers to win the S15. If (and again, a big IF) the Bulls make it to the quarter final I’m not so sure whether I will still back the Stormers.

      Uwe Klopfer - 2011-05-03 10:23

      they wont reach the final, as a south african rugby lover my heart hopes so, but they wont, in the last semis they will face the saders, reds or blues... south africa at this moment does not have the answer to these teams. sharks were lucky to get the blues before they hit form.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:27

      WP BEKONK, SORMERS WTF?jy kan nie eers jou loser choker span se naam regspel nie

      Marx - 2011-05-03 10:32

      LLoyd, ek twyfel of hulle ñ final sal sien, Stormetjies peak hopeloos te vroeg, nes die Sharks elke jaar, Die Bulle gaan by die agterdeur inglip en almal se groot bekke snoer. Wat het die naweek in die Vodacom Cup gebeur, daar sit die klomp grootbek Kapenaars al weer sonder ñ Semi. Hulle was al te groot bek oor ons so min games gewen het, en wie is nou in die Semi's. In die Kaap dink hulle BMT is een of ander vrot wyn !!

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:35

      Marx, ek weet hulle gaan nie die final haal nie. Ek probeer net hulle hartjies bly maak.

      Verbatim - 2011-05-03 11:40

      ja lloyd, jou mentaliteit en jou ik spreek boekdele hier. So jy gaan die springbokke ook dan nie ondersteun nie om dat nie almal van hulle drolle ek meen bulle is nie? Jy is 'n pateet, en jou span SUIG pel.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:53

      Wat is n pateet?

      FatMole - 2011-05-03 11:57

      Lloyd. You know very little about rugby, even for a girl

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 12:49

      Funny Fatmole.

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:27

      @Mike@CapeT You starting to sound like another sarcastic brainless rugby supporter now.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-03 17:11

      @FakeLloyd.......or is it Lloyd or Brannas or whoever other brainless Bull supporter you are.....?

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-03 17:13

      @FakeCliff.....the real Cliff has a bit of class.....something you are lacking!

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 18:35

      What you on about Mike?

  • Henrich - 2011-05-03 08:33

    Stormers to take 5 points and Saders 0!

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-05-03 13:57

      I agree

  • WPBEFONK - 2011-05-03 08:33

    Change of GEARS it will be. This is going to be a season decider, but the STORMERS will take a very tight game by 3...

      WPBEFONK - 2011-05-03 12:26

      ZOLLAZAP, vat dit rustig my Vriend. Jy en LLoyd moet julle se TAAL GEBRUIK reg kry. Dit kan nie toegelaat word op hierdie BLOG nie. Sterkte met die ROOI BULLE se Currie Cup campaign, my manne het nog semi's en 'n final om te speel in die Super 15. BALSAK...

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-05-03 13:59

      Ja DROLLA, en julle gaan nie eers die 8 span play-off's maak nie so druk dit! moroon Go Rooi Bulle!

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:27

      What are you smoking WPBEFONK, jou dom vetgat

  • majoor - 2011-05-03 08:36

    Blah Blah Blah! We have 2 more one sighted, stupid Blue Bull supporters failing to see the big picture. Rugby was not developed in the North dudes. Rugby will go on, regardless of whether the Blue Bulls are kak, like they are now and will be for the next couple of years. Stop living in the past.... The past is nice to know about, but means zero in the present.

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-03 08:48

      Ja, jy't dit seker ook gesê die laaste 10-jaar terwyl die WP/Stormers niks wen nie

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 09:08

      @Majoor - Jacques must have been one of the 250 clutch plates wearing the "free handout" red Vodacom t-shits at Loftus on Saturday. Betya old Jacques still hasn't take his rooi hemp off.

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-03 09:11

      @SAFFA-CAT Not bad, pity I'm not a Bulls supporter

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-03 09:16

      @SAFFA-CAT Not to bad,just a pity I'm not a Bulls supporter!

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 08:39

    Dearest Lloyd and Brannas, Are you Bulls chaps brimming with confidence about having to face the Sharks twice in the near future? Worry less about the Stormers, and more about your own teams immediate future. PS: Congrats on the win chaps, I was happy the 250 fans at Loftus on Saturday weren't disappointed. PSS: Your little prophecies about "the Stormers demise" have been as meaningless as those little 'end of the world prophecies' we are presented with from time to time. Long way to go in this competition chaps, and I for one am on a 'game by game' level of expectation. Now run along and support the Red Bulls.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 08:43

      Our predictions have been correct for the last 10 years. No reason why it should change now.

      gooinat - 2011-05-03 08:51

      200 of the fans received free tickets, the other 50 were wives and family,things are getting bad at Fortress Loftus!!!!!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 09:10

      @Gooinat - hehehehehe, the Loftus "fans" were like a certain political party's supporters on Saturday.....grabbing the free t-shirts and flags then wearing it all with a false pride and gay abandon. 1 yellow t-shirt - 1 Vote..... 1 red t-shirt - 1 loud cheer "Booooooools"

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-03 09:21

      @SAFFA-CAT You go on and on about Bulls supporters, when last have you been to DHL Newlands and had a good look at your supporters. This is rugby we are ALL hooligans, and you have to have a couple of screws loose to be a Die Hard fan. That said I think it's pathetic how you attack people who prefer one team above the team you support as I can remember days not to long ago when the back the Newlands had problems getting 100 fans to come and watch a game never mind 250 fans.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 09:53

      @Jacques - Newlands has NEVER had a problem getting people through the gates :) Phone the WPRFU and ask them for the stats over the years - even the years we performed poorly. I suggest you stop acting like Lloyd and Brannas then if you are NOT a Bulls fan. Very easy to make that assumption, what with you talking about the BLUE Bulls coming to k*k on Tafelberg etc etc. So who do you support? My guess is anyone who plays the Stormers.... PSSSSSSSS: I do support all SA teams over international opposition, that does not mean I have to support a "certain" teams tappit fans. (Apologies genuine Bulls know who I am referring 2)

      Shistirrer - 2011-05-03 09:58

      Jacques, unlike other teams' supporters, the Newlands Faithful will support our team through thick and thin, good times and bad. Even when Stormers/Province goes through a slump, Newlands will still be packed. Sorry, that's just the way we are. We always support our team, because we know they are class and class will come through eventually. As I said, that's very much unlike the Smurfies up north who are very grootbek when their team is doing well, but in bad times they are too ashamed to show their blue faces in public and rather hide behind a brannas bottle (or their overweight wives) on Saturday.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:12

      Hey Saffa never had aproblem to get people through the gates? Daar was n tyd dat almal in die Kaap van die Stormers as n boetie in die tronk verwys het ,lief vir hom maar wou nie oor hom praat nie,Stormers spelers wat wou staak 1380 toeskouers wat hulle uitgejou het,Ek dink hulle het n probleem gehad om pawiljoene vol te kry en ja DHL Newlands is die bymekaarkom plek van n spul voortandlose papsaksuigende hooligans wat hulle self Stormer supporters noem

      Marx - 2011-05-03 11:07

      Ag Saffa Cat, denial is a terrible thing, Newlands do have good crowds, a time not so long ago, your support at the stadium wasn't that great. Loftus wasn't capacity 'cause of the long weekend, the Loftus faithful had money to spend and went on holiday, the losers down in Cape Town had to stay at home!!!

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:09

      Ag nee ZOLLA, nou beledig jy die deursnee voortandlose papsaksuigende hooligans deur hulle met Stormers supporters te vergelyk.

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-05-03 14:05

      Did you notice how many black people filled the stands at Moftus on sat??? It's like they lured them in from the streets with free t-shirts. And they only managed about 150, the other 100 we're the usual drunken wife beating pigs we normally get to see.

      Whoosa - 2011-05-03 15:16

      @ SAFFA. I'm a bull supporter and condmemn all the comments made by Effel, BRannas,Loyd etc etc.I know a thing or 2 about rugby and are much more civilized than these c@cksmokers. Yes my teams performance have been dismall this year and we deserve the spot we are occupieng on the log. However, i have to question your comment about Newlands being packed week in and week out. I lived in Cape Town from 2002-2009. (a period that you couldnt even win the the toss) As a big fan of watching rugby at Newlands, i whent there basicly every saturday. And there were barely a handful of supporters, every Saturday. And as far as claiming the loyalty of your fans, Newlands is the only place i watched rugby, where the homecrowd booooos there own players. So ja, your team are playing brilliant rugby this season and i hope you guys can find some BMT to go all the way, BUT please, be sober in making shuch statements and especialy predictions, still a long way to go!

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:29

      Saffa, you becoming a pretty big c@nt yourself now

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:31

      Amen Whoosa, thank you for a brilliant post

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 16:04

      Whoosa, wat beteken 'occupieng'?

  • Dolittle - 2011-05-03 08:41

    ok, so here we go again! what mr coetzee forgets is that refs are for the moment the Stormers biggest asset. They can dish it out anyway they want, but guys like Bakkies & Bismark get yellowed just for looking skew at the opposition. Scalla can shoulder charge a guy and then still have a nice chat to the ref about how he had to adjust his shoulder to be affective. Forward passes are ignored and obstruction is tolerated. And how they got this draw is beyond me, but be aware mr stormers the cheethas & bulls are waiting for you, unfortunately for you they are starting to peak at the "wrong" time for you.

      GHT - 2011-05-03 08:55

      @Dolittle. "And how they got this draw is beyond me". I'm not quite sure what you mean? Are you referring to the fixtures?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 09:04

      @'Doctor Doo-very-little yet speaks a lot of trash': I have 3 words for you: CRAIG JOUBERT - BULLS.

      SST - 2011-05-03 09:26

      Hi Dolittle I find it interesting how many of us here prefer to look at games with subjective glasses on. I watched many of the Stormers games several times and I'm very critical of silly things the Stormers do and sometimes get away with. As for Saturdays match against the Sharks there was a couple of incidents on both sides which were not penalized and I would have given C.J. a yellow card for twice entering the rug from the side as well as F. Louw lifting Hoffmann in the 77th minute and putting him down just over the horizontally. As for Schalk's shoulder I don't think it should have been more then the penalty it got as it did not seem that hard. I do have to say that Elstadt's physicality is good but he needs to make sure he does not overdo it and leave the off the ball incidents. As for the forward passes if you are refering to the offload by Louw to Fourie I suggest you check it again and you'll realise that it was nothing more than a brillaint offload. There was however a forward pass and knock-on by the Sharks that was missed but refs are human and can make mistakes. Having said that, I have to add that it is easy to see things on TV and make comments about how bad the ref was.

      Shistirrer - 2011-05-03 10:04

      Dolittle - "Bulls are waiting for you" - huh? The only waiting they are doing is waiting for the dinner bell at the old age home. That's apart from the ouks who will be waiting tables after this season.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:13

      Saffa, soos julle Pro Legoate en Freek Burger in julle sakkie het?

      Kaapie - 2011-05-03 10:32

      You obvious watch little rugby. EVery ref makes mistakes. The champs of baulking and obstruction are the Reds, but still play great rugby. The draw is the draw. It is done before the season kicks off. Stormers have the luck of the draw this time after sucking the hind tit for a long time in this area. FYI the Bulls and the Cheetahs have been beaten. The Bulls still have to com to newlands and the Cheetahs wont have an impact on the SA conference I dont think

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 10:43

      @Alwyn/Zollazap: Did you run the Two Oceans this year? Serious question.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:39

      SAFFA, ek het n ou army buddy (van Jo'burg) Goodhope centre to gevat om sy nommer te gaan haal en ek moet sê dat ek in die 10 jaar wat ek in die Kaap bly nog nie soveel classy mense op een plek gesien nie. Seriously. But then again, hulle was van regoor die land.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 12:01


      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 12:04

      @Lloyd - ja jong, hulle kom van oorals. Maar tappit of nie, ek haal my hoed af vir al die mense wat hom draf. @Zollzap/Alwyn - was jy hier die jaar?????????

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 12:05

      @Lloyd - PSSSSS: jy weet die meeste Kaapenaars is classy, thats why you stay here :)

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 12:39

      @Alwyn - Nee, ek is nie 'n runner nie......het dit een keer gedoen, maar marathons not my thing. Ek is meer van 'n MMA type sports person. Fietsry en draf not really for me. Maar soos wat ek kan deduce was daar massive inskrywings die jaar.

  • georgemtem - 2011-05-03 09:34

    poor stormers,,,,,they lack the physical impact saders posses, the flair dagg, sonny, carter and maitland bring to the game.......saders 32 stormers 16:::::thats my score predication....

      Andre - 2011-05-03 10:23

      I appreciate your prediction and I can understand your optimism specially if you're a Crusaders supporter. The only problem for you is that the Stormers will not allow those guys to play their normal running game. Just have a look at the Stormers defense. Only 6 tries against. On the other side the Crusaders have 18 tries against them. The Stormers are very good in scoring tries against attacking sides. This is going to be a massive game between two very good teams. It could go either way and I don't think the points difference will be more than 6 either way. Good luck and enjoy.

      Crusader Man - 2011-05-03 13:05

      @Andre good comments .. I am hopeful the Crusaders will win. bit nervous that Carter/Reid havent played for couple of weeks and they are missing Thorn/Whitelock in 2nd row. Am hoping the Crusaders don't get flogged like last year.. Altho last year was Blackadders 1st as coach. They are more drilled this year.. May best team win on day.. To those who think the Stormers will win the final, I agree if they finish no.1 in conference. Otherwise would back whoever finishes no.1.. Home town is huge advantage in finals. Bulls have won all there home finals/ Als Crusaders have won all their home finals.. Stormers will if they are top.. Altho i personally think they will lose a couple of there away games and havent scored enough bonus points.. Will be interesting to see who finishes no.1.. Could come down to your last derby Bulls/Stormers...

  • thumper - 2011-05-03 09:34

    Well done Stormers. You outplayed the Sharks completely and even their coach can acknowledge this. These few inbred, one-eyed Sharks and Bulls supporters that choose to talk crap are meaningless. No matter who wins the S15 this year, the fact remains that the Bulls and Sharks suffered humiliating defeats at the hands of the much classier, talented and world class Stormers team. PS! Zollazap, wherever you are hiding today...I told you there would be 4 tries for the Stormers this weekend!

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 09:56

      Stormers thumped the Sharks and the Bulls. Still no cups though. (10 years and counting)

      Andre - 2011-05-03 10:05

      GAAAP!! Lloyd with his normal, week in week out comment. Oh so boring.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:14

      CHOKERS Stormers,Hulle ratkas is klaar gestrip

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 10:16

      @Lloyd - chuffed you admit that we THUMPED the Sharks and Bulls.....(but on another forum you were accusing the refs of assisting the Stormers?) - so what is it: We are good enough to THUMP or we were helped by the refs?

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:29

      Hey Andre jy is k-k lelik met Lloyd,Hy maak sin in sy voorspellings,jy is net te onnosel om dit raak te sien

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 10:31

      SAFFA, thumped, cheated whatever. still no cups. Andre, waarheid maak seer, of hoe?

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 10:42

      I heard that, statistically, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than you have of meeting a Bull supporter with an IQ higher than 4. This has now been proven incorrect, as surely, Lloyd must have an IQ of 5.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:42

      Saffa het vroeer gese dat hulle hierdie jaar die Vodacom cup ook gaan wen ,,,raai wat Chokers Bwahahahahahahahahah losers weereens no cups

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-03 10:45

      What, no tampax this morning Lloyd? Is that why you are not thinking straight? Not that you ever do!

      Shistirrer - 2011-05-03 10:49

      @ikilladabull - Lloyd's IQ only improved to 5 when he moved to the Cape. He had to take QuikSlim when his neighbour mistook him for medical waste.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 10:55

      @Zollezap. Nee ek is nie lelik met Lloyd nie. Ek praat graag rugby en bespreek wat gese en gebeur het. Ek stel beslis nie belang daarin belang om ander mense en spanne af te kraak hier nie. Ek los daai maar vir die gewone ouens hier wat dit doen. Ek erken as n span goed speel. Maak nie saak watter span nie. Bulle van die laaste 3 jaar was briljant en ek stry nie. Ek is net bly my span is nou bietjie meer in die prentjie.

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 11:04

      @ Shisterrer....Is it true that when Lloyd moved from Pretoria to Cape Town, their were write-ups in the paper about a huge "brain drain" occuring up north. Apparently old Lloyd is the smartest Bull supporter.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:12

      Thanks ikkilliwhatever.

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 11:21

      Lloyd you dumb-ass. That wasnt meant to be a compliment.....and typing my name correctly would have been less effort on your part. I hear you have to hold your breath while you read because your brain cant handle breathing and reading at the same time. Actually, that would explain the stupid one-liners.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:40

      Die Stormers suck. Big time. Daar is vir jou n 2 liner.

      Verbatim - 2011-05-03 11:50

      lloyd, en die bulle het geen breins vanaf geboorte nie, wat is jou punt? Ons is BO julle op die log, julle speel soos die patete wat julle is en nou gryp jy na grashalms. As dit jy is in jou profiel foto, dink ek jy was met jou kerel op loftus gewees. En ek kon sweer hy het nie voortande gehad nie.....

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:52

      Bo op die cups. He he he.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 12:03

      ikki wat ook al ,met so n naam kan niemand geblameer word as hulle dit nie wil reg skryf nie

      Verbatim - 2011-05-03 12:27

      No cups - 13-23 HIDING at LOFTUS..

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 12:40

      Thats still only one line stupid. Now....take a beep breath, hold until face turns blue and try typing a paragraph.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 12:43

      13-23, 0-100, whatever. No cups.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 12:51

      Stormers suck. Big time. 2 Liner.

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 12:54

      Well done STUPID breeeeeath.

  • Andre - 2011-05-03 10:15

    Bulls had a good game if you take the last 60 minutes only. I've had them winning by 13 on SuperBru so it did not really surprise me that they did win. Bulls at home against NZ weakest, what else do you expect. Now if it was the Crusaders away, that would have surprised me. Good one Bulls but it was expected. Stormers did much better than I expected. I know everyone will say their real test will be this coming weekend but they've been saying it now for the last 8 weeks. Go Stormers.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:30

      Stormers peak te vroeg,Hulle gaan choke op die regte tyd

      Andre - 2011-05-03 10:57

      Miskien is jy reg maar ek hoop van harte nie so nie.

  • Christiaan - 2011-05-03 10:20

    Pity that a lot of people on here have no idea what they are talking about. No one has mentioned our centre combination, probably the best in the world right now. Sonny Bill is amazing, but who better to take him down than De Villiers and Fourie. The Stormers have played well this season, and the Bulls and Sharks supporters that disagree clearly know nothing about rugby, or mathematics, just look at the log idiots. Every week someone else is saying that its time for the Stormers to start playing badly...well Saturday's Shark whipping was testament to the fact that the Stormers are on the right track. We dominated every aspect of the Bulls and Sharks supporters, take your bad attitude and your inability to support a losing team without slagging everyone else off, and shove it!

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 10:32

      Hulle kan Saterdag vir ons wys hoe goed hulle werklik is ,maar ek voorspel hulle gaan maar uiter onder gemiddeld vertoon Saterdag met SBW wat hulle sy bitches gaan maak

      Christiaan - 2011-05-03 10:38

      En laas jaar toe ons hulle gatte geskop het?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 10:42

      @Zollazap - SBW has but one bi@ch........Meisiekind.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 11:13

      Go Sonny Bill!!! Go Robbie!!!

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 11:17

      Nee Saffa,Die twee poefter senter van jou Stormers,maar Saterdag sal dit gewys word

      SST - 2011-05-03 11:22

      Hi ZOLLOZAP, ons sal maar moet sien wat gebeur Saturdag. Soos wat ek voor al die wedstyde gese het kan enige span Saturdag wen. Ek glo die Crusaders gaan heel moontlik die gunsteling wees om te wen, maar ek glo dat die Stormers die vermoe het om die wedstryd te wen. SBW is baie goed, maar soos enige span sport is 'n speler afhanklik van sy hele span en is 'n span net so goed soos wat jou teenstanders jou toelaat om te speel. Die Reds het gewen teen die Stormers, maar hulle kon net 'n drie gedruk het toe die Stormers deur hulle eie sinnelose foute een speler minder op die veld gehad het en 'n skep skop poging van die Reds deur een van die Stormers spelers afgekeer was maar van sy vingers af agter uit was en dit gelei het tot 'n 5 meter skrum vir die Reds. So afgesien van die verloor en sinnelose foute voel ek die Stormers selfs met daardie wedstryd redelik goed gedoen het. Soos hulle se, mens leer uit jou foute.

      Marx - 2011-05-03 11:27

      Saffa. die Bulls kom Kaap toe, dan gaan ons sien wie is wie se bitch.....

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 12:04

      SST wtf ? Saturdag? is dit n Stormers ding?

      MaestroX - 2011-05-03 12:12

      @ Christian, have to agree with you mate, our centres looked great and its going to be one heck of a test for them with SBW on Sat. Interesting how they are the SA centre pairing, yet the likes of ZOLLAZAP says they are poefters when they have the real Poefter who is more interested in his hair style than playing rugby as their hero. Typical bonehead mentality again. Must say old LLOYD actually does have a brain cell or two, you can see he is an educated boy, still needs a set of balls however. (and no Lloyde, the saying goes, "GROW A SET OF BALLS," not a pair. PS do you also have a blue “pair” hanging from you ancient double cab?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 12:42

      @Marx - ek hoop jy kom saam met jou Bulls Kaap toe op die 11de Junie....

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 12:45

      Ek het net n dikwiel, met blou balls.

      SST - 2011-05-03 13:00

      Jammer ZOLLAZAP, ek het eidlik bedoel op die dag van die wedstryd en het vergeet dat ons wel 'n wedstryd al op Saturdag gespeel het.

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 13:12

      SST ,,MY donner ,se stadig S a t e r d a g nie Saturdag nie onnosele boks

      ZOLLAZAP - 2011-05-03 13:13

      SST se stadig EINTLIK nie Eidlik nie,hou asb op om jou naam so gat te maak

      SST - 2011-05-03 13:52

      Hi ZOLLAZAP. Dankie dat jy my reg gehelp het. Ek lees of skryf nie eintlik baie in Afrikaans nie so ek sal soms 'n fout maak met my spelling. Dankie.

  • John - 2011-05-03 11:29

    Pre-match comments when the Stormers play have been about how they are going to come unstuck this week. This regardless of who they are playing. For those of you who don't know by now that this is a very good team I question your knowlege about the game. This is not a side that has suddenly arrived. This is a progression from last season (2 x finals) Yes they will lose a few but for now, apart from the Saders, they are the most feared opposition down under.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 11:41

      @John. I've said it all before. Every week the same but you know what. Sometime they will be right but most of the time not. Who cares. Just watch and smile.

  • Marius Swart - 2011-05-03 12:45

    As Blou Bul ondersteuner moet ek se die Stormers het baie goed gespeel en het geweet Stormers se senters gaan te goed wees vir die Sharks.Sharks sal hierdie een maar op die kennebak moet vat en aanbeweeg.Tot ek sien uit na saterdag se wedstryd tussen Stormers & Crusaders want dan kan ons sien waar staan die Stormers werklik.Vir al SA spanne hoop ek Stormers wen want dan staan Sharks nog kans en die bulle span kry darrem 4 punte hierdie naweek wat kom wat betaeken ons het twee wenne in n' ry.Fantasties vir die Bulle.Mooi gespeel stormers dit was indrukwekkind al hou ek nie daarvan om dit te se nie.

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 12:55

      You get a "thumbs up" from me......

      SST - 2011-05-03 13:10

      Thank Marius. It is good to read what you are saying. I was very happy for the Bulls that they pulled through a convincing win on Saturday. They played like a team in the second half to come back an beat their opposition so convicingly.

      MaestroX - 2011-05-03 14:32

      Nice one Marius, a true Blou Bul supporter. It would be great if the Sharks, Bulls and Stormers got through to the next round, and if the bulls do, watch out!!

  • Oukoos - 2011-05-03 12:53

    Always educational to read the pre-match comments from your guys that really know the game of rugby. To mention but a few in the week before the Storm/Shark game: • hawk - April 30, 2011 at 07:33 Sharks to win by 40. The beginning of the end for the mountain goat chokers • fdhugo - April 29, 2011 at 09:04 DIE STORMERS IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! • thumper - April 29, 2011 at 09:14 When those ragged tooth sharks hit the Cape they're going to realise there are much bigger fish in Cape Waters. • ZOLLAZAP - April 29, 2011 at 09:21 Die Stormers is kaaaaaaaaaaakBaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! • ZOLLAZAP - April 29, 2011 at 09:54 @Thumper,nie? ek kon sweer ek het gese Reds met 12 teen die Stormers ,ok was toe met 1 punt uit ,en dan het ek gese Bulls met 10 teen Hurricanes en ook dat die Bulls die lions sal wen, nou waar val jy uit? En ja die naweek sal die sharks wen met 7 • vicj - April 27, 2011 at 13:09 As a Shark supporter I am confident they can and will beat the Stormers at Newlands. The reason is that the Stormers have collected only one bonus point, compared to 6 by the Sharks this season, so obviously cannot score tries. And if I was a Stormer supporter, I would not read to much in the Sharks 3 losses. Stormers still have to travel to Australazia.

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 13:03

      Oukoos, how much do you think vicj is reading into the sharks four losses? Bring on the Saders !!!! Bring on "Australazia"

      Oukoos - 2011-05-03 13:37

      ZOLLAZAP, al wat beskikbaar is. is Jan Velskoen, my skaapwagter, se dogter. Sy is nou nie iets vir die oog, nie, maar sy kan goed huis skoonmaak en skaapkop ongelooflik braai. . As dit OK met jou is, sal ek jou proposisie aan Jan Velskoen voorlê, maar ek dink die Namakwalandse plaaswerkers is te kieskeurig om jou te laat introu in hul familie in. Hulle is nogal kieskeurig. Laat maar weet na die wedstryd, ou grote.

  • ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 13:12


      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-03 13:21

      @Ikilladabull - they are 2 separate strings of warped DNA. Alwyn aka Zollzap is from Warmbad (where he manages some sort of farm).....and Lloyd aka Pappa Smurf is a Pretoria ex-pat now living in Cape Town.

      Mork - 2011-05-03 13:38

      I agree, it is beyond childish. It would be really cool to see some more constructive criticsim instead of this 5yr old banter which makes up about 90% of the comments. Absolutely nothing wrong with punting your own team, but come on, lets get a good rugby debate going... none of ths TROLL BS

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 13:39

      We have different mitochondrial DNA as well, for what it's worth.

  • Andre - 2011-05-03 13:22

    interesting facts Bulls beat the Lions 1st game: lions BELOW them on the LOG Bulls Beat the Cheetas 2nd game: Cheetas BELOW them on the Log Bulls lost to the Highlanders 3rd game: Higlanders ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the stormers 4th Game: Stormers ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls beat the Lions 5th game: lions BELOW them on the LOG Bulls beat the Hurricanes 6th game: Hurricanes BELOW them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the Crusaders 7th Game: Crusaders ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the reds 8th Game: Reds ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the Force 9th Game: Force BELOW them on the LOG Bulls beat the Chiefs 10th game: Chiefs BELOW them on the LOG Sharks Sharks beat the Cheetahs 1st game:Cheetas BELOW them on the LOG Sharks beat the Blues 2nd game: Blues Above them on the LOG Sharks beat the Force 3rd game: Force are BELOW them on the LOG Sharks beat the Rebels 4th game: Rebels BELOW them on the LOG Sharks Lost to the Chiefs 5th game: Chiefs BELOW them on the LOG Sharks Lost to the crusaders 6th game: crusaders ABOVE them on the LOG Sharks Lost to the Stormers 7th game: Stormers ABOVE them on the LOG Sharks beat the Lions 8th game:Lions BELOW them on the LOG Sharks beat the Hurricanes 9th game: Hurricanes BELOW them on the LOG Sharks Lost to the Stormers 10th game: Stormers ABOVE them on the LOG Most of the games the sharks and bulls won were against teams lower on the log and very few if any against better opposition. SCARY

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 13:41

      Interesting fact Stormers no cup for 10 years.

      Verbatim - 2011-05-03 13:43

      Dankie Andre, nogals insigewend.

      Oukoos - 2011-05-03 13:45

      Dus, die Sharks behoort teen die Bulls te wen??????????

      Oukoos - 2011-05-03 13:48

      @LLOYD, en wat is jou voorspleling vir Saterdag se wedstryd - die Stormers v Crusaders? Of is jy te banggat om 'n voorspelling te waag?

      Verbatim - 2011-05-03 13:48

      Lloyd - no balls or brains for 16 years. I assume thats how old you are. Lets Recap shall we. Bulls LOST to the stormers 4th Game: Stormers ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the Crusaders 7th Game: Crusaders ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the reds 8th Game: Reds ABOVE them on the LOG Bulls LOST to the Force 9th Game: Force BELOW them on the LOG So the no cup losers STILL beats your team to a pulp. Goes to show what pile of sh1t you support.

      ikilladabull - 2011-05-03 13:56

      Interesting fact Stupid Lloyd is a retard.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 13:59

      Lloyd im not disputing that but please remember that currently the Western Povince union has the Craven week,Under 21 and under 19 cups as well as the Varsity cup. The bulls had exactly the same when they started with a good era. Bulls were in the same position if not worse than the Stormers and invested a lot in their Junior ranks as are the stormers doing and if you look at the quality and average age of the Stormers team they are in a far better position. Let us not forget that the BUlls and no other team has won the SUPER 15 yet so Super 14 really means nothing like when the LIONS WON THE SUPER 10 in 95. You see LLoyd people with a inferior complex like the one your having needs to say things like what your saying to "Make yourself feel Better" . People (LIKE YOU) according to leading phsycoligists do this when they have 3 affects. 1.THE CAVEMAN EFFECT: Like a caveman your brain isnt developed and therefore you dont have self control which makes you say things you shouldnt say. 2. THE LIITLE GIRL EFFECT: Deep inside of you there is a little girl just screaming to come out LLOYD. 3, THE SMALL EFFECT: you have a small PEE PEE LLOYD. Are you catching my drift mate

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 14:00

      Oukoos, Crusaders met 8. Klaar my pick gemaak.

      Verbatim - 2011-05-03 14:03

      @oukoos - 34 - 25 Stormers se guns. Gaan nie groot punteverskil wees nie.

      MaestroX - 2011-05-03 14:51

      Andre, you're a champ, great insightful info and stats. Little Lloyd, you are a chump, History is History, you enjoy the occasion when your team wins and then you move on to the next game. It’s also not just about winning the cup. Even if we don't win this year and we beat the Bulls twice, i will smile the rest of the year till we meet them in the Currie cup again etc etc. Also please if History is so your thing, WP 32 currie cup wins, Blue bulls 23. Now who actually gives a toss about those facts? Until we meet again at Newlands, we are the champs over you this year and no amount of cups count for anything buddy. Sadly for you, it’s a disastrous year for the Bulls, resting on your “we’ve won 3 titles” is a very nice scapegoat

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:25

      Het jy op jou kop geval jou simpel m@erskont!! Jou PK is baie naby

      Whoosa - 2011-05-03 15:59

      @andre= "Let us not forget that the BUlls and no other team has won the SUPER 15 yet so Super 14 really means nothing". For a guy sporting a picture with a degree in your hand on your fb profile you sound pretty dum to me - probably a BA degree in pick up sticks. I follow your comments and its pretty obvious that you are a biast stormers supporter that makes no sense and probaply dont now the difference between rugby and F1 racing. Now go back to finishing your peanutbutter and jelly toasties and jacking-off to your sperhero commic books!

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 16:17

      Maestro, if it makes you feel better when your team beats the Bulls 50 times a years while your trophy cabinet stays empty then I'm happy for you.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 16:20

      Andre, kan nie eers psychologists spel nie. 'phsycoligists' Wtf?

      Whoosa - 2011-05-03 16:21

      Andre, You are stating the obvious you numbnut! Thats how it works, teams that beat you generates more points than you and threfore is above you on the logg. Dit you by any chance realise that 90% of the teams the stormers beat were won against teams below them on the logg????? SCARY! HAHA

  • Johan - 2011-05-03 13:27

    Can someone please explain why Francois Louw wasn't carded or even cited for his tip tackle towards the end of the game?

      Andre - 2011-05-03 13:33

      They did have a look at it and the match referee did ask for the video but they decided not to take it forward as it was a dangerous tackle but francois immediatly pulled out of the tackle and put him down.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 13:42

      Because Freek Burger is a corrupt thug.

      Graeme - 2011-05-03 13:57

      Yes, Johan what about CJ in the first 1/4 of the match, elbowing someone off the ball. Why no citing. Against the Aussies and New Zealand teams they will be cited. This is not playing aggressive rugby, this is been a thug! Sorry no place for that in rugby.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 14:21

      Ladies and gentleman: Victor Matfield had a big issue with the REF on Saturday when they were losing even telling him to look on the BIG screen. Victor though never had one problem with the REF when they were winning. Now im not saying that Refs arent making mistakes. My question is just would any sharks or supporter that doesnt support the stormers stiil say the same if they won. Yes guys like Bakkies and Bismarck gets sighted but unfortunatly they have a reputation for doing these things. Would that really have mattered as the Sharks were well beaten as well as any team the Stormers played. Come on Guys lets not have sour grapes.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 14:28

      Funny Fact: Victor Matfield had a big issue with the REF when they were losing against the Chiefs on Saturday even telling him to look on the big screen. When they were winning ,Victor was happy with the ref. If the Sharks won on Saurday,would this be a discussion point? would the yellow cards make a difference as the sharks were well beaten? Bismarck and Bakkies do this week in and week out obviously you will get away with things but it will catch on. Francois Louw hardly ever do it and so he gets away with it when he does it. my question is still would it matter if the sharks won or is it sour grapes because they lost.

  • SuperCooper - 2011-05-03 13:36

    SHAME... i feel so sorry for u sore losers, get a life man. it just goes to show how idiotic u little twats are.... start appreciating good rugby u twits.

  • Andre - 2011-05-03 14:13

    All Im trying to say is that statistically the Sharks and the Bulls are losing games against top oppisition which the stormers are not. When you look at statistics in the past that the same bulls side that won the super 14(although it doesnt matter as super 15 is a different competition and a different format). They were among the top sides at the halfway stage and were regularly beating top opposition. Now the same with the sharks, Cuureently its not happening and sport is a confidence and mental game. Its a big struggle and let us not forget that this is unchartered territory for the Bulls and sharks losing so many games so early on agains top sides. It currently means that with all past cups in your cupboard is going to other teams which means that you are no better than the team thats 15th on the LOG.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 14:22


      Andre - 2011-05-03 14:31


      Marius Swart - 2011-05-03 14:36

      @Andre.Ek dink jy is reg maar die bulle het ongelukkig meeste van hulle wedstryde teen hul self verloor omdat hulle eerstens nie die bal kon vang of behou nie en ongelukkig straf goeie spanne jou as jy nie jou besit beskerm nie.Die stormers sal hierdie naweek getoets word by bal retensie en behoud van die bal want die crusaders is goed in daardie area op verdediging.Ek dink egter as blou bul ondersteuner die crusaders het kans maar tuis veld sal die stormers deur hierdie een kry en hulle verdedig baie goed op die oomblik.Die stryd tussen die 4 senters gaan moerse wees en verseker die hoogtepunt van die naweek.Jy weet die bulle kry ten minste 4 punte hierdie naweek.Fantasties!!!!

      Graeme - 2011-05-03 14:37

      Stormers are about to loose 5 in a row. Crusaders first, then their away games!

      Andre - 2011-05-03 14:50

      @Marius Ek stem 100% saam met jou. sovver die Bulle gaan glo ek net dat jy speel so goed soos jou OPONENTE JOU TOE LAAT. Die REDS he die stormers geklop op Nuweland want hulle he nie die Stormers toegelaat om momentum te kry nie. EK glo wel dat die Bulls en Sharks te laat begin het om hulle jonger spelers kans te gee en dit begin te wys e tqans het hulle ook nie juis beter talent nie want almal het begin opvang met hulle.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 14:54

      Graeme can you tell me what the LOTTO numbers are seeing that you can see the future you big TIT.

      pvdv - 2011-05-03 15:04

      I don't think that losing is unchartered territory for the Bulls as they share the record for not winning a single game in a season of super rugby with the Lions. I they continue on the current trend I suspect that they might achieve this record again next season.

      Andre - 2011-05-03 15:09

      @PVDV: Funny thing is that people forget that stat. History has always repeated itself just ask the bulls side of the early 90's to 2007.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 15:13

      Andre lyk soos Jurie Els.

      gooinat - 2011-05-03 15:21

      After been on this forum for sometime you start to get used to some of the people on here and from what I have seen is that as soon as you get Alwyn(Zollie),LLoyd in a corner they start with the insults,thats the only way they think they can get out of there cr@ppy situations,come on boys talk rugby now man,we know that not much is happening up North but be grateful we keeping the SA flag flying down here.@Graeme,wake up from that dream my boy!!!!!!!!!!!!

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:23

      Andre, jy lyk soos 'n donnerse gay vrugtevlieg man! Gaan huistoe man.

      Oukoos - 2011-05-03 15:35

      Stormers: Still no cups. (10 years and counting)

      Oukoos - 2011-05-03 15:36

      LLOYD: Still no brains (35 years and counting)

      Oukoos - 2011-05-03 15:37

      ZOLLAZAP: Still no brains. (40 years and counting)

      Lloyd - 2011-05-03 16:21

      Oupa, dis 38 jaar.

  • CliffBradley - 2011-05-03 15:21

    Hi All, Sorry I've been quiet for a bit, I've had a marathon masturbating session after I saw Duane on TV. But I'm back, eventhough it's without a voorvel.

      MaestroX - 2011-05-03 15:50

      Ahhh, just another insightful rugby comment for an all knowing Bulls Supporter!! Must be heart breaking for genuine Bulls fans to be on the same side as these wonderful specimens. I take it you lot all have seats in the East stand? As soon as the Bulls start to lose all you can dish out is filth and disgusting comments and cling to your, “we have 3 cups,” wet dream!!!

      gooinat - 2011-05-03 15:54

      @Maestro,this is not the real Cliff Bradley,probably Alwyn(zolhol)or Lloyd,dumb sh@ts

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  • Anneleen - 2011-05-03 16:29

    Sharkies will continue...good story is over and out...for now!! Keep well everybody!

  • CliffBradley - 2011-05-04 02:49

    Hello al julle idiotiese skermunkels, Ek het eerste handse kennis dat die Stormers almal saam sing tydens hul oefeninge. Dis op maat van 'n ou weermag "song', hulle sing wanneer hul om die veld rond bliksem: "Ons is dom maar ons werk hard" (en herhaal) "Ons is dom maar ons werk hard" (en almal saam) "Ons is dom maar ons werk hard..." Duane sing glo die hardste van almal. Man ek is lief vir daai outjie

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