Stormers overpower Bulls

2011-03-19 20:55

Pretoria - The Bulls suffered their second consecutive Vodacom Super Rugby defeat at the hands of the Stormers who on Saturday night recorded a 23-13 victory which is their first in Pretoria since 2003.

In a typically tight contest between two giants in South African Rugby, each of the sides only managed to score one try with the rest of the points added by the respective goal kickers.

The Stormers’ Peter Grant slotted six out of his 10 attempts while the Bulls’ Morne Steyn was only successful in three of his six chances.

The visitors started positively and, after a holding out during the fiercely contested opening stages of the match, had six points to show for their efforts.

In both instances Grant made no mistake with the penalty goals while the Bulls struggled to adapt to referee Keith Brown’s interpretation of the breakdown law.

The breakdowns would remain an area where the defending champions simply could not find their feet during the contest.

What must have further frustrated the home side is that in their first visit to the Stormers 22, a great attacking opportunity was squandered when fullback Zane Kirchner lost the ball in contact to hand hard earned possession back to the visitors.

Instead of creating chances, the Bulls had to rely on their defence to keep the ever attacking Stormers at bay.

As the match started to heat up, the Cape Town side started growing in confidence and will consider themselves unfortunate not to have extended the lead they built-up in the opening quarter of the game.

Eventually the Bulls managed to open their account thanks to a penalty by flyhalf Morne Steyn when the visitors placed themselves under pressure with a poor lineout throw.

Grant then slotted his third penalty - with the Bulls at fault at the breakdown again - and soon thereafter put his fourth through the posts when Bakkies Botha barged his way into isolation with ball in hand.

Botha was penalised for holding on with credit going to Stormers flank Francois Louw for his awareness in the tackle situation.

In a drastic turn of events the Bulls managed to score the first try of the match when wing Bjorn Basson was put into space.

The former Griquas speedster raced past a couple of defenders before chipping the opposition backline and capitalising on a rookie error by Springbok wing Bryan Habana.

The try blew some life back into the game as the sides headed into the tunnel with only two points separating them on the scoreboard.

While the Stormers started the first half well, the Bulls did the same at the beginning of the second but had failed to convert.

Steyn, who is normally on the money, missed two kicks and this played right into the opposition’s hand.

The Stormers didn’t make the same errors.

Instead they scored their only try of the match when Habana showed his class to snatch the ball from under Basson’s eyes to dive over in the corner.



15. Zane Kirchner, 14. Gerhard van den Heever, 13. Jaco Pretorius, 12. Wynand Olivier, 11. Bjorn Basson, 10. Morne Steyn, 9. Fourie du Preez, 8. Pierre Spies, 7. Dewald Potgieter, 6. Deon Stegmann, 5. Victor Matfield (captain), 4. Bakkies Botha, 3. Werner Kruger, 2. Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1. Gurthro Steenkamp

Substitutes: 16. Gary Botha, 17. Rossouw de Klerk, 18. Flip van der Merwe, 19. Danie Rossouw, 20. Francois Brummer, 21. Francois Hougaard, 22. Derick Kuun


15. Gio Aplon, 14. Danie Poolman, 13. Jaque Fourie, 12. Jean de Villiers (captain), 11. Bryan Habana, 10. Peter Grant, 9. Dewaldt Duvenhage, 8. Duane Vermeulen, 7. Francois Louw, 6. Pieter Louw, 5. Andries Bekker, 4. Rynhardt Elstadt, 3. Brok Harris, 2. Deon Fourie, 1. Wicus Blaauw

Substitutes: 16. Ethienne Reyneke, 17. CJ Van der Linde, 18. De Kock Steenkamp, 19. Nick Koster, 20. Ricky Januarie, 21. Gary van Aswegen, 22. Juan de Jongh


  • CapeTownJunk - 2011-03-19 21:00

    I often read comments here by Bulls supporters saying that the Stormers suck. I suppose it sucks to be you tonight. Oh well, no hard feelings.

      Pappa Smurf - 2011-03-19 21:08

      You are right, it sucks to be us. Bulls suck!!!!! Jaco, save me a piece of that pie.

      Ghecko - 2011-03-19 21:30

      Pappa smurf you are a bigger smurf than I thought good luck for the rest of the season the bulls will bounce back

      Pappa Smurf - 2011-03-19 21:45

      Thanks Ghecko, but I'm not that big. Bulls suck!!!!!

      Schumi - 2011-03-21 15:39

      It never sucks to be a bull, we get to go home after each game and look at a trophy cabinet reflecting a decade of being the best ... what do the stormers have? One unimportant match at the start of the Super season? You people are so quick to jump on the Blue Bulls success, that by the time you guys need to close the deal you choke ... I sincerely hope that the Stormers and Sharks actually materialize something for once ... but truthfully the crusaders will dominate this year.

  • gerhardvorster - 2011-03-19 21:03

    Well done Stormers. You derserved the win. Bulls got a hiding from the stripes, Stormers dominated in every aspect of the game. Hard to think this game was palyed at Loftus. My bloed bly blou. Stil a long season ahead. The Bulls will comeback.

      Maddi - 2011-03-19 21:57

      You do your team proud by not resorting to foul language and name-calling. I am a Stormer supporter, and I have to say that the Bulls is and will always be our nemesis. Well played Stormers, next time Bulls!

      BardofAvon - 2011-03-19 22:56

      @ Maddi : Thanks. The respect is mutual. Many of the Stormers old hands had a good run - De Villiers, Jacque Fourie, Bryan. Bodes well for the RWC. We (the Bulls) will be very fortunate to make it into the top 8 this year. Quite frankly, the guys haven't a clue.

  • Jaco - 2011-03-19 21:04

    Geluk Stormers. My vrou het vir my n lekker humble pie gemaak. Ek gaan nou n paar stukkies eet.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-19 21:07

      Kan ek vir jou bietjie eier gee saam met die humble pie? Fried or Scrambled?

      Jaco - 2011-03-19 21:11

      Nee dankie, die pie sal dit doen. Daar is nogal baie humble in. Smurf, come on over, daar is baie.

      MrMojoRising - 2011-03-19 22:58

      Jaco, ek moet sê, jy maak nou dat ek bietjie meer respek het vir die Bulls supporters.

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-19 21:05

    Ans before I continue with the festivities at my home, let me say: STORMERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSS - HABANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Bite me Bulls bastados.......

      gerhardvorster - 2011-03-19 21:14

      Habana? He was the best Bulls player on the park. 1 try and all is forgotten? I think not... I think the comentator had a good name for him.. Habana = ha-"byna" (almost)... Meaning everytime he gets the ball, he almost does something with it, almost catched it, almost passed the ball, almost kicked the ball, but never really does anything with the ball anymore.... I love his rugby, but honestly, he needs to work on his game, not sure what he's been doing the last 12 months. I hope he gets his form back now, scoring against his old team-mates should do something for his confidence, I hope... Congrats Saffa-Cat, your team deserved the win. Bulls forever...

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-19 21:26

      @Gerhard - I agree that Habana has not been much good.....but it was pretty satisfying to see him score the try that sealed the deal. That's all I was implying. Thank you for being such a graceful loser and having the 'you know whats' to at least pitch up here. Cheers!

  • Frisbee - 2011-03-19 21:07

    Ya, I think you'll find it's spelled 'embarrass'. Nice work, sport24!

      Stox - 2011-03-19 22:01

      Irony anyone?

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:47

      It must be pretty embarrasing to realise that you have criticised & corrected an articles spelling when you yourself spell 'spelt' incorrectly, 'spelled' is American, we use UK English in RSA so 'spelt' would be correct.

  • Chris Holtshausen - 2011-03-19 21:09

    En daarsy!!! Uiteindelik 'n NEUTRALE ref wat die Bulle se oortredings raaksien!!! Se mos nou al lankal dit is al wat ons nodig het om die Flouetjies te wen. Uiteindelik kon die eenogige Marius Plonkers, Craigie's en kie nie die een vir die Bulle steel nie. Het mos die afgelope 3 jaar net nodig gehad om op te daag met die kluite aan stuur van sake!!! Een na die ander beker vir hul op 'n skinkbord oorhandig!!! Ja, selfs al het Habana vannaand vir sy ou span uitgedraf, was dit ook nie genoeg om die STORM te stuit nie!!! Go STORMERS!!!!!!

      antonbar - 2011-03-19 21:26

      Neutraal? 300% meer strafskoppe vir 1 span as vir die ander? 14 teen 5? Dis neutraal? OK.... Op 'n stadium vra Peter Grant die ref: "Vir wie is die strafskop?" Ref: "Dis vir ons!"

      MrMojoRising - 2011-03-19 23:12

      Ummm antonbar . . . As die Stormers 3 x meer strafskoppe gekry het, is dit net omdat die Bulls 3 x meer foute gemaak het. Dis obvious is dit nie?

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-19 21:10

    Oh yes - WELL DONE CHEETAHS!!!!! I am so proud of you chaps! It has been an incredible day: The 3 most arrogant teams in World Sport see their jacks :) - England tossed by Ireland.....Australia tossed by Pakistan.......Bulls tossed by US :)

      Tina - 2011-03-19 21:21

      FFS! What are you on? Did you have a futuristic wet dream or what?

      xperdt - 2011-03-19 22:28

      Hey saffa-chicken&kie, is you from de Unieted Styts??or just down unde, at taMatiesland??congrads mate,the croud from robin eiland deserved it, i hope.....??

  • Wagga - 2011-03-19 21:12

    BULLS and STORMERS suck!!!!! My CHEETAHS tops.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-19 21:22

      Wagga, I went beserk with the Cheetahs amazing win today. It was incredible and I couldn't have been happier! Two things from that game: 1) Heinrich Brossow's VALUE can't be underestimated - EVER! 2) The Australian conference is WEAK. Nou moet ek verder gaan kuier - ek het net gehoop ek kry vir Alpyn hier! Damn. At least Pappa and Jaco have guts and grace in defeat. ROCK ON STORMERS - CAPE TOWN IS A ROCKING FOR YOU.....

      Wagga - 2011-03-19 21:37

      Thanks SAFFA, The CHEETAH game was great and I had the pleasure of watching it in Sydney. I am the happiest chappy in Australia at this moment. Congratulation on the Stormers win, they looking good this year, hope they can keep it up and fly the South African flag high. BULLS suck!!!!!!!

      Mark - 2011-03-20 09:08

      my Lions also sucked!

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-03-22 11:09

      How totally useless was Juries??? Does that guy even know what it means to tackle someone?

  • Andy49 - 2011-03-19 21:14

    How sweet this victory is, the more so because for a change we can have sensible, relevant & mature comments instead of the usual insults posted by the losing Bulls foul mouth brigade, you know who you are.

      gerhardvorster - 2011-03-19 21:23

      You mean for a change, the Bulls lost a league game, and here we go again, the Stormers think they won the Cup already. If you see the posts here, who is the foul mouth brigade? Go to the dictionary... find the word "ignorant"… you’ll see a picture of a stormers fan in the description pane… Well done Stormers, see you at Newlands.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 21:41

      @gerhardvorster, sore loser or what with all your posts here tonite? I don't see any comments saying that The Stormers have already won the Cup nor can I find any 'foul mouthed' comments from Stormers supporters but there again that typifies the mentality of you Bulls children, you make up stories to make yourselves look good & big & strong in your feeble attempts to ridicule & insult others. PS. I can't find a dictionary with a pictures as unlike you Bulls bufoons I read stories with WORDS not PICTURE STORIES. looking forward to the return game, until then WP/Stormers jou leekker ding.

  • JanBal - 2011-03-19 21:14

    Ek is nie iemand wat baie moun oor wat in n rugby game gebeur het nie….MAAR….Wat die GROSSSS dink die Bulle, het hulle n kompetisie aan om te sien wie kan die meeste skop???? MY BLIKSKOTTEL…. Ons het seker net 6 keer die bal by die senter’s gekry!..... Baie geluk Stormers, ek is bly vir julle!

      Chris Holtshausen - 2011-03-20 14:52

      @JanBal: Jis my ou, ek dink jy moet tog maar na 'n paar video's van jou Bulle in die verlede gaan kyk... dit is minstens sedert Naas se tyd jul 'gameplan': jy weet, hoog skop en storm en hoop die bal val reg. Moet erken die bal het vir blerrie lank reg gespring. Dit is waarskynlik waarom jy nooit agtergekom het dat dit hul enigste 'plan' nog altyd is nie. Dink jy hul kies Morne Steyn vir sy aanvallende vermoeens?!!!!

      Jacques - 2011-03-20 16:09

      Ja maar as jy Wynand Olivier in jou agterlyn gehad het sou jy ook eerder geskop het. Die bal stop by hom.

  • JanBal - 2011-03-19 21:17

    Ek is nie iemand wat baie moun oor wat in n rugby game gebeur het nie….MAAR….Wat die GROSSSS dink die Bulle, het hulle n kompetisie aan om te sien wie kan die meeste skop???? MY BLIKSKOTTEL…. Ons het seker net 6 keer die bal by die senter’s gekry!..... Baie geluk Stormers, ek is bly vir julle!

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-03-19 21:21

    I have followed bulls rugby for the past ten years BUT the balance of power has shifted the stormers and the sharks are now kings of SA rugby it's a fact. The Bulls era has ended there are problems at loftus huge long as victor keeps chirping the referee then the bulls will still lose again. Fourie Du preez was exposed today he can not keep up with the younger players like duwenage he can only kick francois hougaard is a better scrumhalf than du preez. The weaklink at the team is jaco pretorius he is weak,he can not run....he can not tackle...he falls off tackles...stephan dippernaar is young and i heard dippernaar played well against wp in the vodacom cup.....watermeyer musr surely come to the side olivier and pretorius are finished klaar. Steggman and Potties are penalty machines....... Bulls supporters this is ahuge i mean huge blow for us we are in turmoil....where is Heyneke Meyer he can fix this mess. Stormers deserved the win i was impressed by their physicality i am a fan of the wp boys they smashed us to pieces they made the bulls look like schoolboys. There is a problem up there in pretoria we have lost leadership what is going on guys i have 2 words to describe the bulls right now..... EGO.......And Arrogant Stormers fan's are right to critsize the bulls we are rubbish we look really bad terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well Done Stormers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      gerhardvorster - 2011-03-19 21:44

      Good post Muzi, I agree with most of what you said. I do however believe that the "arrogance" and "ego's" is something that will be rectified in the coming weeks. 2 losses at the "fortress" never goes down well. They should recognize now that it was not just good fortune for the Highlanders and Stormers, but that they “the Bulls” are NOT unbeatable and should get back to playing their game. Only then will we get back our pride and winning ways. I have faith in this team and in the high standards they have set for themselves and the high standards in the Bulls community. They will be back, very soon.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 21:48

      Thank you Muzi, sane comment.

      Leeutjie - 2011-03-19 22:33

      gerhardvorster I hope you are right but i can't see the bulls lift them to the same level they were these last few seasons. We have to get rid of some of the old toppies. Matfield, Rossouw, Olivier must retire and Fourie, Steyn and Kischner must go back to Vodacom cup to learn to play rugby again. This up and unders and then hope for a favourable bounce is no good. I can't see them regain form soon and Snorre will have a huge task to keep the worldcup. Guys i wont pick now are Steyn, Fourie, Matfield,Olivier, Kirchner,Spies,Rossouw, Habanna, James,John Smit,CJ, Jean de V ,

      Kaapie - 2011-03-19 22:45

      Too much of an old boys club. Matfield, Rossouw, Botha, but I cant say Spies.. but geez is he poor

  • Jay - 2011-03-19 21:22

    firstly well done boys you made me proud. Our forwards are very impressive. secondly i seem to remember predicting a Habana try for the win, even though i said an intercept, i am very happy for Bryan........Stormers 4 Life!

  • zainub.gamieldien - 2011-03-19 21:24

    Oh what a feeling!!! First the COBRAS and now the STORMERS. Proud to be a Kaapie right now.

  • Atoombom - 2011-03-19 21:26

    Vandag het die bulle geleer wat senters is. Fourie en De Villiers het daai steroidbespuite blou sentertjies stukkend gehardloop. Victor moet n commentator word, want hy praat meer as die ref, lynregters en die tv ref saam. Basson van die bulle is na my mening een van die beste SA vleuels in n lang tyd. Ek is n STORMER vir life!!!! En om die bulle n ordentlike pakslae op loftus te gee, moet gedoen wees!!!! Mooi stormers

  • Leeutjie - 2011-03-19 21:29

    Why is it an embarrasment if the Bulls loose at loftus but if any other team loses at home it's o/k?? A great concern for me is the fact that the Bulls bokke that must defend our worldcup is completely of form. Their experience will not be easily replaced but we can't take them to the worldcup on present form. Wynand Olivier passed once and a try was scored. Amazing what happens if you use the ball.Spies, Kirchner, and Fourie duP needs to go play Vodacom cup again. Well done to the Cheethas and Stormers this weekend. Both teams played o/k but i think the Sharks will be our only team that stand a chance against an in form Crusaders team.

      antonbar - 2011-03-19 21:35

      Ja ek stem saam - die Bulle is nie eers naastenby op standaard nie - Matfield-hulle begin lank in die tand lyk, Kirchner is pateties en Fourie praat te veel, maar die vreugdevure in Kaapstad is heeltemal voortydig. Voor vanaand kon die Stormers in 160 minute se rugby geen enkele drie aanteken nie. Habana sal vir brekfis opgevreet word deur die All Blacks se vleuels. Die Stormers-apies vergeet ook hoe hulle (nes die Bulle in die semi-finaal) geboelie is deur die Sharks in die 2010 Curriebeker-finaal.

      Atoombom - 2011-03-19 22:00

      @antonbar - jy is die tipiese floubul supporter. Hierdie is 2011, nie 2010 nie. Jy klink nes die ANC - karring altyd aan oor die verlede. Julle het n ordentlike pakslae op MOFTUS gekry. Get over it!!!!!!

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:01

      The reason for the 'embarrassment' unfortunately is more than likely due to the overconfidence/arrogance & inflated ego's portrayed by the majority of the Bulls team & some of their supporters who seem to think that they are invincible. Granted they have had a fantastic run but it has now ended. Thanks for your compliments t both the winning SA teams Cheetahs & Stormers. @ antonbar in a game of rugby a team can win the game without scoring any tries, that is the nature of the scoring system. Your insulting comment regards 'Die Stormers-apies' refers, the 2010 CC final is now history Sharks outplayed us on the day, we are now in the year 2011 get over it & move along.

      daspoort - 2011-03-19 22:40

      @antonbar..."..Voor vanaand kon die Stormers in 160 minute se rugby geen enkele drie aanteken nie.." Wat de f*k man, is die game se naam "Drie Druk" of "Jy is net goed as jy 'n drie druk". Word die beker gegee vir die span wat die meeste driee druk....ekskuus....ek kan nie hoor nie...jou vet doos!!!

      Deon - 2011-03-19 22:48

      ANTONBAR - Ek is 'n Stormer Supporter, maar jy is reg, dis nog 'n laaaaaaang pad. Maar ons is so gewoond daaraan om deur die Bulls opgemoer te word dat ons darem mag vreugdevure brand.

      Chris Holtshausen - 2011-03-20 15:06

      @antonbar: Noudat die 'Stormers-apies' jou 'magtige Bulle' 'vir brekfis opgevreet het', nou plaas jy jou hoop op die All Blacks om dit wat die Bulle nie kon regkry nie, vir jou te doen. Shame, die hoop beskaam nie, ne?!!!

  • GraemeBB - 2011-03-19 21:33

    The Bulls deserved a bigger "pakslae". I have never seen so many penalties, free kicks and handeling errors - not even in a Lions game. I didnt see one Springbok in the Bulls team tonight. Well done Stormers - Grant was superb, the scrum was power, and the backs were looking for opportunities. A well deserved victory.

  • croix - 2011-03-19 21:34

    Me no sappoht Bullies ..... Me no sappoht Stohmies .... but HAAAAhahahaha ! Come raait Shahkies !! Well done, Cheetas.

  • Hellbent - 2011-03-19 21:34

    The Bulls lose, and that with Habana playing for the bulls.

  • Ricky - 2011-03-19 21:36

    The very dramatic act of going down on one knee and praying before the game by some of the Bulls does not appear to have worked. I wonder why ?

      gerhardvorster - 2011-03-19 21:59

      Ricky, please keep this out of sport. Why they went down on their knee for has nothing to do with you. Neither do you have any idea what was said. You really think they prayed for a win? I for one believe the prayer worked. I saw everyone walk of the field tonight. Please keep your comments on religion to yourself, if you have nothing good to say. Please keep you religious comments to yourself.

      Paddy - 2011-03-19 22:22

      Goeie vraag Ricky goeie vraag!Hul gaan nou seker van kerk verander!Bakkies bly n gemors al bid hy hoe hard.Stormers het met hulle gemors veral voor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      burtfred - 2011-03-19 22:27

      @gerhardvorster If the Bulls going down on one knee has "nothing to do" with the paying viewer, they should rather do it in private. Poor God, he must be so confused when opposing teams simultaneously rquest His support. Matthew 6: 5 says, "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full." Pray in private, not in full view of international TV cameras.

      Kaapie - 2011-03-19 22:49

      Fred sooo right, it miffs me when this happens. So when the team loses whose prayers were answered.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:51

      @burtfred you beauty.

      gerhardvorster - 2011-03-20 10:23

      ha ha ha... Julle is almal so inteligent, jong, geen wonder ons land is in die gemors nie. Julle het almal julle pad verloor....

      Paddy - 2011-03-20 11:28

      OMG ou GertjieVOSTER is jy family van ou John?Eers die kerk en nou politiek.Gaan rol n mielie agter die kerk se muur man!

  • Blou - 2011-03-19 21:37

    Stormers, baie geluk. Julle was die beste span. Well done !!

  • vicj - 2011-03-19 21:51

    I'm a Shark supporter. Bulls with their old toppies (Springboks nogal) are finished. Stormers had a good game but what I do not understand, Habana scores one chase down tri and now he is a hero again. I thought he had a very average game.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:23

      @ vicj please show us where the so called comments calling Bryan a 'HERO' are as I can only find 2 posts referring to Bryan in which they say; 1) I am happy for him. 2) It was satisfying to see him score that try. Please do not make unsubstantiated & untrue comments it makes you sound like a wounded Bulls supporter & you don't want that label now do you? I suspect that you think posts are saying that Bryan Habana is a now hero could be due to him having been severely criticised in recent weeks for his lack of performance so for him to score a try tonight was a great motivator for Bryan, the entire team & The Stormers supporters. There are actually more comments posted here that refer to Bryan as having played for the Bulls because he fluffed a few things.

      vicj - 2011-03-19 22:44

      Andy, my open comment was "I'm a Shark supporter" so dont even go there about Bulls. I'm going by TV comentators and not the article.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 23:35

      vicj, I do realise that you are a Sharks supporter, I never denied this in my reply, however I responded to your comments which I strongly suggest you read & digest viz; "it makes you sound like a wounded Bulls supporter & you don't want that label now do you?" Unfortunately I am unable to get a transcript of the TV commentary therefore I assume that your comments relate to other comments posted on this forum.

      Hellbent - 2011-03-20 08:13

      I think that score was an accident. He was meant to miss, but make it look good.

  • Jaco - 2011-03-19 21:52

    Thanks to all the humble Stormers supporters. It really help to soften the blow.

      Chris Holtshausen - 2011-03-20 15:15

      Ja, ou groot bek! Nou is ons skielik baie sag. Sit ten minste 'n 'fake' fight op. Dit is tog na alles waarom ons almal op hierdie forum is!!!! As ons almal nou skielik almal hand om die blaas ophemel...Wat is die 'fun' daaraan?!!!

  • Potyster - 2011-03-19 21:53

    Pappa Smurf suck

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:52

      Why post these comments? it makes you as common as them..

  • dirk.r.carstens - 2011-03-19 21:53

    K@K sal hulle...van K@Kpraat voor die game het niks gekom nie.....Bulls suck.....

      Oukoos - 2011-03-19 23:01

      Jy is die kluts kwyt, DIe Bulls het nooit voor die wedstryd die Stormers afgeskryf nie. Dit was die Bulls ondersteuners.

  • rockster666 - 2011-03-19 21:57

    Very poor ball handling from both teams. Can not afford to do that playing against the 7 time champion the Crusaders they would punish you big time.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:24

      Absolutely spot on the money with this comment.

      Brevan - 2011-03-19 23:43

      In case you didn't notice... it was raining throughout the match. Except for Habanam t

      rockster666 - 2011-03-19 23:58

      @Brevan yes i did notice but you have to adapt to the condition wet or dry. Can not afford to make too many mistake against the Crusaders they love playing in the wet weather as well.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-20 00:00

      @Brevan that is no excuse, these are so called professionals, handling skills were generally at schoolboy level. What's with the 'Except for Habanam t' comment?

  • G.du Plessis - 2011-03-19 22:04

    Well I am interested to see how the two big boys in South Africa do this year: the Stormers and the Sharks!

      Deon - 2011-03-19 22:53

      Nee wat George, Sharks gaan ons rol.

      Oukoos - 2011-03-19 23:44

      Stem saam met Deon - ons Stormers moet nog baie verbeter om met die Sharks te kan saamgesels, maar ons is op die regte pad

      Paddy - 2011-03-20 11:30

      Wat rook julle?Die Sharks is useless man.Het jul nie hul game teen die Chiefs gekyk nie?Moes nooit verlede week gewen het nie en gaan saterdag n mamoerse pak by die Saders kry.

  • crocowild - 2011-03-19 22:04

    And there the men from the Stormers did it.Did i not say the Bulls will try to intimidate the ref?Big mistake.This Bulls,as you know, was not our best team or our A game.On the other hand do not be so hard on your players.Most of them have class and they will regain form.We can not pick the Bok team on the form of the players in March.Things will still change a lot before the World Cup.Congratulations Bulls,you were worthy opponents.

      Daex - 2011-03-20 20:05

      Great Crocowild, I couldn't agree more.....

  • Docmetix - 2011-03-19 22:06

    Nuus: Die Kaap van Storms het oor Pretoria gewaai vroeer vandag en n 15 tal van horingagtige grasvreters verniel. Mooi so Stormers

  • Just_saying - 2011-03-19 22:12

    to all those people that kept writing "Stormers suck!", sucks to be you right now! Well done Stormers and to the Bulls good luck for the rest of the season. WP en Stormers jou lekker ding

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:55

      Thank you @Just_saying, I too cannot understand why they have to stoop to the level of the usual Bulls comments.

      Terrence - 2011-03-20 20:57

      thats if stormers make it in the rest of the season

  • Paddy - 2011-03-19 22:19

    Ou DURASMART moes eintlik ten minste 30-6 gewees het.As die Stormers nog net 1 van hul vele kanse afgerond het en Habana nie vir julle ook gescore het nie!Habana is seker omgekoop met n Hatfield slet!

  • burtfred - 2011-03-19 22:20

    Pappa Smurf- Your beloved Bulls lost a game to the Stormers and now you declare that the the "Bulls suck" This after weeks of you boring everybody with your regular deep, philosophical declaration that "Stormers suck" You are a fickle, support slut. If you don't have anything intelligent to offer towards our online conversation, rather just shut up.

      Michael - 2011-03-19 22:44

      Well said burtfred- very fickle slut supporter

      Mikus - 2011-03-20 07:42

      jeez people, the guy said sorry - what more do you want? I have been and will be a WP supporter all my life but we all seem to be going on like the Bulls were slaughtered yesterday - they were beaten yes but wiped out - I don't think so, write the Bulls off at your peril - A major positive from yesterday's game however was the warning issued to world rugby - there was some really serious power on display.

      Pappa Smurf - 2011-03-20 08:14

      Thanks Mikus.

      BCC - 2011-03-20 08:24

      @mikus, watch the crusaders and you will see some serious power. The Stormers are no threat to them.

      Mikus - 2011-03-20 08:48

      @BCC - true, the Crusaders are exactly that and arguably the best organised team in world rugby - even when comparing test sides! However, what I saw yesterday was an elevated dimension in SA (and certainly Stormers) play - we supported the ball carrier across the advantage line, added significant yards and protected possession into the breakdown - it was purpose driven muscle and not the flimsy, individual, easily stopped crap we've been guilty of for so long. I see good things for SA rugby

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-20 09:18

      @BBC - My Stormers play you chaps at Newlands again this year....(remember last year with Dickinson blowing the Saders off the park?) YES, the Saders as usual look powerful & unstoppable as is the yearly norm....your centres are incredible. However, lest I start giving you the "counting chickens" story, might I add that The Stormers, unlike many other teams have a pretty decent record against allllllllllllll NZ teams...... The game is in May so lets not start throwing punches already.....In fact, lets start throwing punches once we have seen the Saders against a really good defensive team first (they have yet to meet one of those....)

      rockster666 - 2011-03-20 12:28

      @Mikus you must be talking about the power of the Crusader, that is the only team i saw in the last three weeks displaying some serious power. For what i can gather they are trying to knock out the competition leaders one by one. Shame the Chief beat them to their third victim. As for the Stormers did they manage to score a try against the Highlanders???

      Mikus - 2011-03-20 13:22

      @ Rock - Crusaders = great rugby, the chances of coming up against a weak New Zealand side are about nil mate use your example of the Highlanders, like a golf score card, there isn't a remarks column so no matter how unattractive or unconvincing the winners were..... To a lesser extent I think you can apply the philosophy to the All Blacks - undoubtedly the most powerful team in the world for the last 2 world cups but the trophy went elsewhere.... SA has been lagging behind in optimising strengths but yesterday the Stormers took a step up in that regard - a move already made by the Sharks and I'm confident will be followed by The Bulls and others - lookout World Cup, here we come again, only better this time.

  • Hein - 2011-03-19 22:20

    Congratulations to the bergbokkejane - you outscored the Bulls tonight.

  • Rodger Dows - 2011-03-19 22:31

    A sad day for SA Rugby. The Bulls gave it their best. Even took all their AA/BEE players off for the last 20 minutes and played with a super white team. But it just wasn't meant to be. Congrats to players like Aplon and Habana. Aplon played his heart out, and could have been man of the match. Habana will bounch back. It is time that a law is brought in that there must be at least 5 AA/BEE players on the field at all times. Not only sometimes. Last year I watched Bakkies "lafaard" Botha crush Aplon. Today I saw him crush Duvenage. Bakkies, ou grote, (lees lafaard), vat volgende keer iemand jou size!!! For a Bulls team that has bought all the best (read "white") players from all over the country : ouens, julle suck. Big time.

      Andy49 - 2011-03-19 22:59

      your comment was doing fairly well until that last sentence 'ouens, julle suck' why did you have to make this comment?

      Oukoos - 2011-03-19 23:31

      Jy is 'n rassis. Punt. Al vier sogenaamde "EE" spelers van die Bulls was op meriete in die span. Dink jy regtig spelers van kleur is so swak dat reëls en regulasies hul plekke in die span moet beskerm? Jy beledig al die uitstekende spelers van kleur - spelers soos Basson, Aplon en Steenkamp.

      GraemeBB - 2011-03-20 11:31

      Bulls gave it their best? And how must Bakkies treat the smaller guys, softly? Dont insult the smaller men, they are man enough. As for the colour ratio - thanks for pointing it out, I didnt even notice, I was too intrested in watching rugby. Look, the coloured people from WP are rugby mad, and their representation in the team reflects that - but black african representation is also non existant. It is a problem for some people, and will be a topic that will burn for quite some time. Rugby is not their no 1 sport, and I think that it will still take some time before this is resolved. I am no polititian, and I certainly have no power over the make-up of the teams - I support the players of the day. I saw no AA or BEE players on the field, I saw players of merit.

      Zion - 2011-03-20 12:35

      Ja, the bulls gave their best and the rest of the country gave their best to the bulls yet they still loose to a much hated WP side. Now I will not use the word "suck" because it is not soooo original, rather crude but will say the bulle moet gaan popsicles suig.

      GraemeBB - 2011-03-21 11:35

      Zion - thank you. And because you were kind enough not to be a follower and use the term suck, I wont be rude to you about how poor your english is, and how I was barely able to understand what your point was - besides that WP won. Thank you Zion, a true gentleman.

  • Kaapie - 2011-03-19 22:41

    Out of the bulls I can only think of two players that played well maybe three. Basson(great @ chasing kickoffs) Chilli was good and Steenkamp. Jislaaik Spies is kak!! Kannie tackle nie, cant break a tackle and is presently the worst No8 of all the loose forwards playing super rugby! The incessant questioning of the referee by Matfield must surely piss the ref off, and frankly Matfield looked old and tired when he came off. IMO Spies should not go to the WC and Matfiled should be the reserve Lock.. Question has Meyer and Ludeke done enough succestion planning.. me thinks not. While the competition is still young the Bulls look tired and jaded. I maintain that while Habana looked better than last week( what vrot hands he has.. kannie a bal vang nie) Stormers should have signed Basson before bringing Habs to CT.

      Leeutjie - 2011-03-19 23:06

      Agree with you. The bulls will drop to the bottom of the list. They won't have to rebuild from scratch but they need to do some rebuilding. We have two good young locks, Two young props and Hougard will be a name soon at scrummie. We have good young loosies waiting to be seen. The problem is in the backline, I wish Lambie was for sale cause we can surely use him, Steyn is not a running flyhalf anymore like when he was Derek Hougard's understudy. Wynand Olivier should seriously considder modeling. We can always replace the centers with Watermeyer and Dippenaar but they will never see the ball. They will have to go catch it somewhere after it was kicked, again. Bulls, wake up, the game is changing.

  • Oukoos - 2011-03-19 23:40

    Wat 'n kak opskrif. Die Bulls het verloor teen 'n span wat op die dag beter gespeel het - net soos met die S14 eindstryd toe die Stormers deur 'n beter span geklop is. Die Bulls is 'n goeie span, maar nie so onaantasbaar dat dit 'n verleentheid is om te verloor nie. Alle spanne kom dit een of ander tyd oor - sommige spanne net meer as ander..

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  • Crusader Man - 2011-03-20 00:06

    Not a good game to watch i must admit. Enjoyed the intensity of two good teams bashing each other up. The Bulls don't seem to be able to change there game plan. They were getting smashed in the tackle and then resort to illegal tactics to try and get get the ball. Its no point blaming the ref. The Stormers really should be able to do better on attack with their backline. They lacked penetration and haven't really looked like scoring. Great defense tho. Looking forward to both of these teams playing the Crusaders. Can someone tell me what games the Crusaders have in SA.

      Alex - 2011-03-20 07:49

      27 March Sharks (moved to Twickenham) 7 May Stormers 14 May Cheetahs

  • stephen.eriksenmiller - 2011-03-20 03:18

    I just don't get it! My understanding is that you get 4 points for a win, and a bonus point once you score 4 tries, or lose by less than 7 points. So how is it that the Stormers have 20 points after 4 games, but no bonus poins are showing for them (because obviously they havent scored any) Is it a different rule for them? Do they get 5 points for a win? Is this a way of ensuring that they at least get a shot at making the semi's? Confused!!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-20 07:30

      @Stephen.eriksemiller -I think just waking up confuses you.......stupid Tswane rat.

      SirGibbs - 2011-03-20 07:36

      Stormers had a bye the first week and all teams get 4 points when they are on a bye

      Alex - 2011-03-20 07:45

      Every team that has a bye week gets 4 points..

      CliffBradley - 2011-03-20 17:42


  • Berts - 2011-03-20 06:00

    Bulls - Momma Told ya not to come!!!! Mooi Stormertjies. Geweet julle het dit in julle! Baie mooi game! Ja nee - die feite bly staan - Bulle is over rated! Vat ñ perd soos Spies - what a loser. Hy het niks vir sy span beteken. Stormers het ñ KLAS back line! Die beste in die wereld sal ek sê! Wens net hulle wil dai Poolman perd vervang met Jean de Villiers en dalk vir Bryan Habana en Juan de Jongh op of Juan de jong en Jaque Fourie of senters hou. APLON JOU YSTER! Fokkit dai klein mannetjie kan maar enige plek speel. Praat van hart!

  • Zion - 2011-03-20 07:21

    An unspoken law in SA rugby is the referees who must stick to the laws and interpretation thereof. It is common knowledge that the mighty Blue Bulls cannot loose a game especially to the gutless Stormers and on Loftus. This issue and Habana must be investigated because it was loudly proclaimed Habana is like a Supreme chicken - recycled and watered down. Ai, this game has an old man dancing on his toes.

  • Karoobloed - 2011-03-20 08:05

    I am a long time Stormers/WP supporter, but take no pleasure in an RSA beating another RSA team in a competition involving other countries. Let's reserve our glee for when our teams beat Aussie and NZ teams. Let's reserve our petty parochialism for Vodacom Cup time. Grow up guys.

  • BCC - 2011-03-20 08:26

    Reading these comments makes me laugh. Who is this Andy49 muppet. He is a smug son of a bitch that thinks he is some sort of guru. Piss off loser.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-20 09:22

      @BBC - reading the drivel you write, the term "POT - KETTLE - BLACK" comes to mind....muppet.

      BCC - 2011-03-20 09:47

      @SUCKA-CAT, you piss off too chump.

      CliffBradley - 2011-03-20 10:30

      BCC- Seems to me you are worried after Saffa Cat & Andy49's comments , methinks the sheep shagger doth complain too much !!!

      rockster666 - 2011-03-20 12:01

      Yep welcome to the comedian site, you get a good laugh on here.

      zottomike - 2011-03-20 23:33

      Well said BCC. Andy49 has been commenting on all other comments, correcting people's spelling and gramar as if he is so brilliant. He is a real waste of space and is most probably only 5 foot tall and suffers from small man syndrome. Heh, Wanker, if you have nothing positive to contribute, shut the F&@k up.

  • saliem - 2011-03-20 08:54

    The one thing that the Stormers are proving again this season is that the sum of the parts is greater than the whole... what a fantastic TEAM (Together Everyone Achieves More) effort that was. Still plenty to do, but a win is a win. Methinks the Blue Bulls (or VLOU NULLE as my mates call em) will be back, but it's going to be catch-up from now and some of the individuals (Spies, Bakkies, etc) will have to shape up or shift out. Cameo performances by players like young Pieter Louw and Rynhardt Elstadt showed what is possible when you play for the team :P

  • KingSmurf - 2011-03-20 09:00

    Ai! Net weereens gesien dat as 'n onpartydige ref blaas, dan beteken die Bulls f@kkol!! En Fourie du Preez is nou beslis die nr1 Tantrum Queen in SA rugby!!

      RJ - 2011-03-20 09:18


      Kaapie - 2011-03-20 10:21

      Between hima and Matfiled they're always moaning. I dont know what they want to achieve. I

  • Raymond - 2011-03-20 10:03

    Good for SA rugby on the whole, a wake up call for the Bulls and a convincing win for the STORMERS.It appears that the Bulls are not fully committed and the players are holding back for some reason,maybe with the Tri-Nations and World Cup ahead,this could be at the back of their minds regarding injuries.I must say that when Gary Botha,Flip van der Merwe and Danie Roussow came on to the field,they added something extra to the play especially Gary Botha who is such an outstanding hooker and player.I can't understand how he is not in the starting line up.The Bulls over the years have always been very powerful in the front row but this has not been the case since the start of the season.I wish to advise some people that,like an All Black side,don't write off the Bulls team as they will be back. Well done STORMERS, we in Cape Town are proud of you and wish you well for a successful Down Under Tour after the Force game at Newlands on 26th March. Raythestormer.

  • Jacques - 2011-03-20 11:15

    Well done Stormers. Good game. Opportunities missed. As a Bulls supporter I would give credit to the Stormers as they were the better side of the day.

  • Jaco - 2011-03-20 12:13

    Once again congrats to the Stormers.

  • Clive - 2011-03-20 12:17

    As a neutral, I am always amused at the abuse and one-eyed nonsense flying back and forth between the Bulls and Stormers/WP fans - mostly from north of the Jukskei one has to say. The Bulls fans will ALWAYS blame the ref without conceding that their team was outplayed on the night, which they cetainly were last night. As for the Stormers supporters who thought that Habana had a good game - b******t! He was pathetic for 79 minutes, and the only positive aspect is that he is still an opportunist and chases hard - as his try confirms - but he is making far too many basic errors in general play for someone of his experience: missed tackles, knock-ons, breaking the defensive line, etc.

  • Bundy - 2011-03-20 15:15

    Alwyn has just wiped his name both ways through his own ass. STORMERS well done boy's ver big game to win. I think the game plan the bulls have been using has reached its end. Oh Ja and Alwyn is a groot doos

      Alwyn - 2011-03-20 16:16

      Yes Al Bundy,,,,,,your wife didnt call me names when she sucked me dry,,dont bring your personal vendetta to the forum , PS, she was not very good at it,,,,,,Doos

      Clive - 2011-03-20 16:25

      Dear Alwyn and Bundy, Thanks for adding to the quality of the debate, which is supposed to be about RUGBY. If this is all you guys are capable of, it's best to keep quiet.