SBW flattered by Div comments

2011-05-12 11:51

Adnaan Mohamed - Die Son

Cape Town - All Blacks and Crusaders sensation Sonny Bill Williams says he is flattered by Springbok coach Peter de Villiers's comments about the way in which he plays the game.

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De Villiers earlier this week launched a scathing attack on the Crusaders star, describing his flamboyant offloading style as "nonsense" and a "poor example for young rugby players".

“I’ve got a simple reply for him (De Villiers),” Williams said prior to his team’s departure from Cape Town for their Vodacom Super Rugby clash against the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein on Saturday.

“I am flattered that he would go to the lengths he did in dissecting my game. If I can change the face of rugby with the way I play, then so be it,” he said.

Williams was brilliant in the Crusaders' resolute 20-14 Super Rugby victory over the Stormers in Cape Town last Saturday, cutting the competition's best defence open with his off-loads, ball-strips and running angles.

Williams added that his flamboyant off-loads come naturally and were honed during his time as a rugby league player.

“As a forward in rugby league it was required of me to stay on my feet and off-load in the tackle. And if my style of play influences youngsters to improve their skills, it should be seen as something positive,” he concluded.


  • WPBEFONK - 2011-05-12 11:57

    SBW= Brilliant and Intelligent player, But Jean de Villiers is the BEST no.12 in on the PLANET!!!!!!

      GILLBERT - 2011-05-12 12:01

      lol lol lol lol lol only south africans think hes the best....... hes good and above average but nothing special

      WPBEFONK - 2011-05-12 12:03

      @GILLBERT- What do you mean above average? Are you refering to Wynand Olivier??

      KB - 2011-05-12 12:09

      Jean de Villiers, I'm affraid cannot tackle and relies on Fourie to save his mistackles. SBW is by far the better player. De Villiers was shown up a few times in the game.

      Marcell - 2011-05-12 12:18

      I am amased. The stompies are blessed with the best players in the world for quite some time now but their record of winning silverware is below average. Even worse that Wynand Olivier's passing average. I would suggest that they need to get a commitee together to do some inner inspection on why they are so pathetic when it comes to winning the last match of a competition.

      GILLBERT - 2011-05-12 13:01

      jean the de villiers is so good he was second choice centre at munster... like i said only south africans think he is the best in the world

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 13:06

      @Marcell - I am 'amased' (your spelling not mine...) that you manage to breathe without assistance.

      Eugene - 2011-05-12 13:17

      SBW Offloads in a big hit by JDV and pops a pass which is intercepted by Fourie - try! SBW is predictable - he always offlaods in the tackle, how long before he starts giving away not only possession, but also tries. He will have major impact leading into TN and then come RWC he'll be exposed and once they start intercepting he'll look confused and tame. He was vastly superior during Sharks game - a couple of weeks later the stormers made him look a little uncomfortabl and he started to seem more human in the light - watch the space. JDV and Fourie are classy players, they do what they have done for years and are still briliant - time will tell about SBW.

      Grant - 2011-05-12 13:18

      DeVilliers WAS the best in the world, but his injuried have left him shy of where he was. Still a great player though...

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-05-12 13:39

      @Marcell - get a committee together. How very corporate. Then we will be right royally screwed. Considering we are the current World Cup holders I cannot see the reason for an "inner inspection" as much fun as that might sound to the average Capetonian.

      Dan - 2011-05-12 13:49

      Jean is great, but this Williams is just something else. His off-loads are like magic and will create gaps in the RWC where even Rick January will be able to go through.

      Dan - 2011-05-12 13:52

      @WPBEFONK. You have serious mental scars from the Bulls. The last 10 years left its mark on you for life. Everyone enjoys these blogs and then along comes a bastard like you and somehow drags the Bulls into every blog. Doos - this article is about SBW. Get over yourself and stop being so pathetic.

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-05-12 13:59

      I have to agree with one thing that Helium said - that I think that the oppoistion will find a way to counter SBW and his late offload, simply by using rugby league tackling. You tackle the ball not the man. That will result in him losing the ball in the tackle. However .. {sigh} - talent like he is, he will change his game plan and run around you while you are trying to tackle the ball. He is a phenomenon, but he is human. Play him like we played Lomu (who never scored against the Boks) and we can still win the RWC - as we did when Jonah was playing.

      Lennox - 2011-05-12 14:08 are 100% correct because SBW is from another planet my friend!

      Kok - 2011-05-12 14:23

      Jean who????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @Gilbert: That's the problem here, the media and bok fans make their players the best in the world. O'Driscoll is miles ahead of any other centres in the world. SBW needs some time to get that honor, but he will be there soon. Jean Div is the best when it comes to intercept tries and Fourie only scores when there's nobody infront of him. Wynand - no comment. I just wish the most skillfull centre in SA, Adi Jacobs, will get more game time to once again proof himself. But that bosman guy and that ou toppie are chosen ahead of him.

      Ettie - 2011-05-12 14:28

      @WPBEFONK- Jean de Villiers, is good but not CLOSE to SBW!!!!!! Its only the DUMB stormers that think he is the best on the planet. And dont forget the Crusaders played with a B Team on saturday, so SHAME on you Stormers!!!!!!!

      Jack Turner - 2011-05-12 15:41

      Help me WPBEFONK ( What a fuc..*# name) what the hell do you smoke...DeVilliers the best on the planet. Is he family of yours...? you smuck.....

      Taupstar - 2011-05-12 15:49

      shut up ow, crack up !!!

      Jason - 2011-05-12 16:52

      Hmm...I am South African but that's a tough call - I think I would have to choose SBW (if he had trained in our systems that is). But it's close - JDV on form is brilliant. But SBW doing those offloads to Jacques Fourie would be amazing.

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-12 20:20

      HA HA HA HA JdV the best??? I know you just kidding, so I will not swear at you for 9 sentences. JdV is one of the biggest has-beens on the planet, he's slow, poor defence and not the cleverest ever seen on a rugby field. SBW was his master and that in a Crusaders B-team.

      splatgunnz - 2011-05-13 02:01

      @Gungets Tuft... You need more than Rugby league tackling my friend! In league, he was the very best at the offload and that's considering the defence patterns in league are designed in such a way the offloads are quickly snuffed out. If he is the best ever to do it League, what on earth makes you think rugby coaches in Sth Africa are going to come up with an answer when even the best Australian League coaches couldn't snuff them out????

      GJDH - 2011-05-13 07:05

      ag asseblief.. seker 'n WP ondersteuner jy... SWB bring nuwe enrgie na die game, ou snorre se bek is weer grott sien ek...

      Raymond - 2011-05-13 21:47

      Yes,I agree with your comment and you are fully entitled to your views of how you see certain players. SBW is an exceptional player and we take nothing from him in this respect.We can only wait for the Tri-Nations and then make an assessment after the three Tests.I hope that people will offer constructive criticism when certain players are discussed,because any fool can criticize.

  • GILLBERT - 2011-05-12 12:00

    sony is thinking the next time i see bozo the clown im gonna punch him right in his helium inflated mouth

      ChrisG - 2011-05-12 12:59

      He wouldn't risk it, that moustache might swallow his hand.

  • Rod - 2011-05-12 12:09

    Unfortunately he will never get to prove the point against the Boks.Under the guidance of the dumb dwarf the Boks wont make the quarters.

      Spazman - 2011-05-12 12:30

      Tri Nations?

  • Dean O - 2011-05-12 12:20

    What has P de Villiers brought to the Springboks or any coaching level anywhere? What game breakers has he developed? Whose skills has he improved or added too? SBW is the toast of the town and deservedly so! The only SA players to "set the world alight" over the last 2/3 seasons are Sarel Pretorius and Pat Lambie; and Pdivvy had nothing to do with them. Bjorn Basson was the talk of the Currie Cup last year breaking the "most tries in a single season" and where is he this year? Show me one South African in any position that has had so much attention focussed on him over the last 3 years? Pdivvy must one day realise that once you are in a hole you must stop digging. Cuedo's to SBW to adding a new dimension to Rugby union.

      Eugene - 2011-05-12 13:11

      So who do you credit with SBW's skill? Is Pdivvy supposed to develop talent? No everyone knows how ignorant you are.

      Dean O - 2011-05-12 15:37

      @ Eugene. Read the article and you will realise that Peter DeVilliers is criticising SBW. So my concerns were (1) What has PDivvy brought to the party? (2) Which Bok / Provincial / Club / Varsity or rugby player has PDivvy influenced or developed in the last 10 years. (3) Who gives PDivvy the right to slate something he has not tried or achieved. (4) At least SBW is allowed to be creative in his play, the Boks (core players from Jake White2007 squad ) are still playing Jake Whites game plan. FACTS bro, not fiction.

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 12:20

    If I was Graham Henry...I would still start with the tried and tested Nonu at 12. However good SBW is, and whatever he brings to the game, the man has not been tested at international level sufficiently (a few games on EOYT.....yes) to just throw a quality man like Nonu out with the bath water. Relying on SBW toooooooooooooooo much, and throwing out those who have been there/done that could come back to bite.

      thumper - 2011-05-12 12:29

      As good as Nonu was/is he is becoming more of a liability in the Bakkies mould with his yellow cards. Conrad Smith is still their best playmaker.

      darkwing - 2011-05-12 12:45

      If I was Graham Henry I wouldn't loose a minute's sleep. They have THE MAN coaching the Boks.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 12:54

      @thumper - his form hasn't been great etc, and yes, he is copping a few cards etc, but to be fair SBW has been lucky to get away with a few shoulder charges as well thus far (Kanko etc) which could have seen him cop a card or 2 quite easily. I just think many 'desperate to win a WC' Kiwis are relying on one man to do it.......They must think long and hard before naming starting combos in midfield....lets see what they do in the tri-series. SBW and Freuen not the best defensively as a combo. A few tough decisions for that miserable old man to make.

      Gilgamesh - 2011-05-12 13:20

      It still amazes me that SBW got away with that shoulder charge. The mindset of the Kiwis must be that they can get away with most things and the ref just lets them play on. I can't stand it. Hopefully it bites them come WC time.

      Kok - 2011-05-12 14:25

      SAFFA-CAT: The first time I agree with you. GH should stick to Nonu and Smith and play SBW from the bench.

      Coconut Frontier - 2011-05-13 12:05

      I respectfully disagree. I believe SBW will start the Tri Nations. I can understand the 'impact player' point to bring him on as fresh legs. Makes sense. But SBW is extremely fit and makes big plays at any time. By that I mean SBW doesn't need tired players around him to make big plays. He offers so much more in attack than Nonu (nothing against Nonu he plays well for the AB's) I know that these are SR stats and tests are different but SBW tops the offloads and line break assists.He also features highly in try assists (only 5 players have more), tackle breaks (about on par with Toeava, Ranger and Fruen) and run metres (Only 13 players have more ) as well as making the try scoring list. All this and he had played less games than most of them. Some say his defense is suspect.I don't think its as good as his attack but its not terrible. He is improving at a rapid pace. Whoever Henry puts in the 12 jersey I'm sure will play with pride. SBW at least deserves a start in the Tri Nations I reackon. Just my 2 cents. Here's Colin Meads 2 cents when he was asked "Nonu is good, but Sonny Bill's form is irresistable"..

  • Dgs - 2011-05-12 12:24

    I am an ardent Springbok fan but the comments made by PdV smacks of pure jealously. So what if SBW is flamboyant, he gets the job done. He makes and scores the tries which is what the game is about. I bet PdV would love to have someone of of SBW's calibre in the Springbok squad. If he was so lucky, then we wouldn't be hearing criticism from him as he would be continually singing the player's praises.

  • Charnè Anderson - 2011-05-12 12:27

    PDV came out as an idiot... again. Geez does he ever know when to STFU? Give credit where due, learn that lesson PDV.

  • Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-12 12:30

    Yes, PDiddly is prone to making ridiculous statements and needs to keep his mouth all times. However, the author of the above report must have been remembering the 27-0 match. At no stage was Williams 'brilliant' against the Stormers....nor did he 'cut the competition's best defence open with his off-loads, ball strips and running angles'. Should we just refer to the report as 'poetic licence'!

      atoerien - 2011-05-12 12:40

      Mike where did the try come from? SBW pass

      GraemeBB - 2011-05-12 13:35

      @Mike - I didnt see JDV slice the Sader's defence, or threaten it in any way - just an observation. And SBW did quite a few magic passes - if he held onto those passes, the Saders would have been pegged 10 meters back at times. No, SBW is a factor, like it or not.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-12 13:58

      Graeme, I don't remember bringing JdV into my comments. One piece of (dubious) magic doesn't make his match play 'brilliant', as the author would have us believe. Duvenage scored a 'brilliant' (disallowed) try....I don't read of anyone raving over his match play! Face facts SBJ had an average game...his defence was suspect and he certainly did not set the house on fire. Fourie was the best centre on display with his defence and his decisive breaks. As usual, SBW is being hyped up by some of our media (not to mention the New Zealanders, of course!) and by certain sections of our own readers who see nothing good about our own players and more particularly, the Stormers. Having said all that, yes, we can be envious of 'that' skill that SBW does have!

      CliffBradley - 2011-05-12 20:25

      @Mike@CapeT Well, we know you're no IQ giant so I'm not gonna waste my time trying to reply to you. (who laughs at his own comments cuz no-one else does) The Stormers has done ZERO in eleven years, so before you start winning some silverware no-one will take you serious and you'll remain the jokers of world rugby

  • Supapaul - 2011-05-12 12:31

    DIV is 'n dom drol!!!!!!

  • silverflash - 2011-05-12 12:34

    Why cant the Boks unearth a player like Sonny Bill... i think we should import Maori's its the only way... They big Fast Strong , Skillfull ,

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-12 12:38

      We have...they just have different skills.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 12:55

      @silverflash - did you not watch the coverage from Newlands? We have about 20 000 honourary Maoris living RIGHT HERE in Cape Town.

      Wolfgang Andrew - 2011-05-13 01:32

      Silverflash, SBW is Samoan not maori, that's why he hits so hard! I think SA junior fly halfs could benefit from playing a season in nz early on, they would get more exposure to creative, flamboyant fly halfs, the opposite of morn steyn(as good as he is, is very predictable)

      splatgunnz - 2011-05-13 02:05

      He's half white, half samoan. No maori in him bro. Quade Cooper's Maori.

  • silverflash - 2011-05-12 12:35

    The Bok backline lacks a real game breaker ! someone with brute strenght that can carve open defence ! like swb can

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-12 12:39

      I guess you haven't been watching Jacque Fourie recently!

      Johan - 2011-05-12 12:45

      Jacques Fourie.......@silverflash

      GraemeBB - 2011-05-12 13:37

      Agreed - Jaque Fourie is brilliant! One of my favourites!!

  • Jason - 2011-05-12 12:39

    I'm sick of having to defend our coach... The man is a walking mistake!

  • Jason - 2011-05-12 12:41

    Silverflash we have DE Villiers, Fourie and De Jong don't think we have to worry about the talent we have available to us.

  • Northlander - 2011-05-12 12:42

    As a Kiwi I like JDV's style, but would not have him over Nonu, Mcallister, SBW or even a converted Kahui.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-12 12:46

      Spoken like a true Kiwi!

      Northlander - 2011-05-12 12:55

      Yeah 5% heart 95% brains

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 13:05

      As a Kiwi, you must be aware that a brilliant centre pairing in no way guarantees a World Cup winners medal. Silly me, of course you are aware. PS: I like Luke M's style. I would play him as backup 10 though. Thats just me.

      Charnè Anderson - 2011-05-12 13:39

      @ SAFFA, who wants to be "world champs" if you can be no.1? LOL! ABs still no.1; didn't take them long after the WC to grab it from the Boks... again!

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-05-12 14:02

      Northlander, am I missing something? Your second comment describes the make-up ratio of a Nerd!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 14:14

      @Charne - ask the Kiwis what they want more than anything....hehehehehe, and it's not to be No 1......they would trade it all in a flash for a WC winners medal. Fact.

  • BardofAvon - 2011-05-12 12:45

    The headline is misleading. It should say "SBW "flattered" by Div comments".

  • silverflash - 2011-05-12 12:48

    I hear what u guys are saying but where we lack is players who can make a gap from nowhere .. if you have been watching the super 15 closely the N.Z teams have that skill we unfor dont !

      Grant - 2011-05-12 13:23

      I think we have the players who CAN do it - problem is - we have coaches who dont allow it! "Hold onto the ball in the tackle" "No 50/50 passes" Makes us less prone to error, but more predictable, and easier to defend against. PDiv just confirmed this!

  • Marcell - 2011-05-12 12:56

    Sonny Bill Williams: As a South African I want to ask that you forgive and ignore mister de Villiers as he does not have control over the sound that come out of his mouth. Thank you for providing us with a display of your talent.

      majoor - 2011-05-12 13:02

      Marcell, by the sounds of it you might have your eye on a possible, "Pick up the soap" position in the shower?

      Marcell - 2011-05-12 13:17

      I use soap on a rope :)

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 14:44

      @Majoor - what Marcell is saying, is that he 'takes care' of himself.

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-05-12 15:14

      What Marcell wants is the Inner Inspection he spoke about.

  • chrismtb007 - 2011-05-12 13:00

    Im not a Stormer supporter, but I so think that this whole thing stinks, the Crusaders didnt win the game, a clear try was disallowed... now its this big story that the Saders won agains the stormers!!! all points again to how badly the IRB want Kiwi teams to win!!!

      Marcell - 2011-05-12 13:17

      Look at the scoreboard.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-05-12 13:21

      @ Marcell, exactly, it should have been 21 - 20, but the KIWI ref didnt alow the Stormers try.... but clearly, replay after replay shows the try is fine!!!

      maycenz - 2011-05-12 13:31

      hahah madness. how is a south african article written about SBW's response to PDV's rant an IRB conspiracy...hahahah you saffers are awesome!! cue south africans bringing out tinfoil hat to protect from IRB's mind control.

      JuanT - 2011-05-12 13:48

      game was lost so deal with it!!!!! stormer S15 players accept it, but the supporters don't. makes no sense.

      splatgunnz - 2011-05-13 02:07

      The kiwi ref was told not to allow the try by THE STH AFRICAN ASSISTANT REF... Shot yourselves in the foot.

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-05-13 10:27

      @maycenz..classic comment mate!!

  • majoor - 2011-05-12 13:00

    I'm not surprised that SBW feels flattered. I checked him in an interview. He's not the brightest chap around. He possibly misunderstood what Div said...

      JuanT - 2011-05-12 13:50

      ...and if he (SBW) meets you face to face, you'll not be the brightest chap either.

      chrismtb007 - 2011-05-12 13:59

      @ JuanT, im sure you would say that, but he only accepts to box against guys that are on loosing streaks, he is even to darn scared to box much older Lomu... I know of a few saffa's that would knock that poor boy senseless!!!

      Taupstar - 2011-05-12 16:03

      no majoor sbw calls this reverse psychology !!!

  • PMG - 2011-05-12 13:02

    PdV is a complete and utter idiot and SARU is 100% to blame for the upcoming fiasco - who in their right minds would appoint this clown as national coach,please tell me this is a joke.

  • MB1810 - 2011-05-12 13:08

    I love watching SBW play, because the truth be told you never quite know whats going to happen when he gets the ball, he has been the most exciting thing in this years Super 15. As for Div, I think his harsh critics of the man is an ill attempt at hiding his lack of a plan to counter Williams. Jean obviouly couldn't contain him while in a Stormers jersey and I doubt he'll be able to do so in a Springbok jersey. P.S. I had hoped that Div had learned his lesson about badly thought through press releases, I don't need a crystal ball to see that his SBW bashing will be thrown in his face come the Tri Nations.

      majoor - 2011-05-12 13:19

      Interesting comment MB1810. I don't quite agree with you though... After 11 weeks into the super 15 we all know exactly what's going to happen when SBW gets the ball. He's going to draw two defenders and do his signature backhand offload. There is speculation from within the Kiwi camp whether SBW will be selected for the RWC. He's one dimensional style off play, inherited from league, does not fit in with the All Black's free style of playing which focuses heavily on counter attacks and quick ball retention vs. fixed moves.I still want to know what the big hype surrounding SBW is all about. I can name at least 4 cmidfielders in NZ who are better than him.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 14:40

      @Majoor - you are not alone in your sentiment. Thank the rugby gods we have not all fallen for this roadshow. I believe Graham Henry will upset a few "fans" in the next few months. SBW will play some role - but I don't think it's going to be the starring role his fans are hoping for.

      MB1810 - 2011-05-12 14:41

      Actually Majoor I think he has proved himself. He did great for NZ in the end of year tours last year. And seeing as he's played against the top centre pairings in the SH in this Super 15, and come out on top on most occasions, I can only ask who else does he have to play to prove himself? I think his "one dimensional style off play, inherited from league" fits in perfectly with " the All Black's free style of playing", like you yourself said he almost always draws 2 defenders and that always leaves open some space for his team mates to exploit. The thing is, although his little backdoor passes and offloads are quite brilliant, he is just as strong a runner and seems clever enough to read the game. He's not a try machine, but he creates tries, I'm not sure what the stats say, but I'm pretty SBW will come out tops as far as try assists are concerned.

      MaestroX - 2011-05-12 15:03

      Guys please, Conrad Smith and SBW together would be unbeatable, can you imagine how good they will be together?? That with Dan Carter at fly half, throw in the wings at their disposal and with Mills at Fullback, the rest of the world is in for some serious pain. Sorry guys, I am SA and Stormers biggest fan but I am extremely worried about the WC and Tri Nations. I just don't know how we are going to do this. If we are to beat them it’s going to take a '95 type of commitment and guts. Seriously, I played centre and I know a good centre when I see one, Jean and Jacque are not in the same league as SBW, sorry guys! All our centre, bar Jacque and Jean have zero vision, esp the like of De Jong. We can only hope we find something to contain him or a strategy to isolate him somehow. Tackling a man is much easier than tackling him and stopping him from off-loading. When it came to the giant Lomu its was a case of putting your body on the line to stop him, but he never ever looked to off load in the tackle to the man running next to him. SBW is a new threat, a more dangerous one if you ask me. SAFFA your comments are often right on the money and I can see you know the game and the players, but I seriously think you are underrating SBW. I hope I am wrong and you are right, only time will tell.

      majoor - 2011-05-12 15:28

      MB1810. I'm not saying he's not good.But the one dimensional style of play will not be allowed on the RWC platform. I am yet to see him kick,put in a grubber, do some skip passing, use his feet to beat an opponent for pace and his defense is not all that great. With his bulk and speed he should develop into a Rugby great. But due to his predictability players on the International arena will nullify him.It is so obvious that the media is riding the SBW wave. The media loves hype and so does rugby supporters who do not have thorough knowledge of the game or alternatively played on a competitive level. With regards to PDV. He is an embarrassment to SA Rugby and the great game of Rugby.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 15:35

      @Maestrox - I rate SBW frikkin highly, and he is certainly worth 80% of the hype. It's the other 20% I am interested in....There have been 'freakishly' good players before, and there will be again - I am yet to be convinced that this chap is going to be spoken of as a Lomu, a Horan etc etc in the years to come. Me< if I was old Graham, I would, as I have said before, stick to Nonu as my starting 12. SBW to me is not complete - not yet: no kicking game, lacking in defence somewhat etc. If he gets all that right in the Tri Nations and then the WC I might be a convert - but I do know that before the year is out, Kiwis are going to be swearing at him and cheering for him in equal measure - just like with King Carlos.....(who can't be compared to Mehrtens now can he?) Lets just enjoy the SBW circus for now :)

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 16:21

      @Maestro - sorry I wanted to add this: I also think SBW's presence in 'any' squad setup will be cause for disruption. Already noticed a few little things within the Sader setup since SBW's arrival.....He might be a team man, but he is the player carrying all the glory....and adoration. He is also perceived by many to be a 'money man', and I am not 100% convinced the rest of the Kiwi chaps (players) are as keen to embrace him as what his Sader mates and the general public are :) Come World Cup time - this disruption might NOT be the ideal for the AB's. At the moment SBW is definitely a player who can assist a team to win a Super 15 or NPC title. But IS he a player who can help NZ win a World Cup?

      MaestroX - 2011-05-12 16:55

      Fair comment SAFFA, do agree with your comments above.

      Wolfgang Andrew - 2011-05-13 01:56

      MB810 I agree it is exciting watching SBW play, he does bring a different skillset to the table.. Majoor SBW definately reeks of individuality at the moment but remember he is raw and new to super rugby. He admits he is a rookie in the game and says he learns at every training session. In time hopefully he will fit into the all blacks backline as part of a cohesive unit whilst retaining the skills that brought him there. It's also one thing to know what he is going to do, and another thing to stop him- remember lomu? It's funny, I've been watching SBW here in Australia since 2004 in rugby league. He was actually a forward without much pace. Unfortunately, the best league prospect who almost signed for rugby is a guy called Greg inglis. 196 cm, 112 kilo and 1 of the fastest guy in league. Check him on YouTube. ( and also Benji Marshall for a taste of the opposite of morn steyn)

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-05-13 10:08 bit of SBW action from last may have already seen it!!

      Coconut Frontier - 2011-05-13 12:31

      Saffa Cat - Its not SBW's fault that he's getting the glory. Its not like he writes these articles himself. I do agree with you about your 80/20 % hype theory. Even SBW says so himself that the media sometimes gets carried away and that he is just a cog in a system. As for the 'money man' perception thats not the way most of his peers think. All professional sports athletes look for the best deal for themselves and their families. I'm sure almost every worker out there does the same thing. SBW's fortunate that he's extremely committed to his training because I think if he wasn't as committed there may have been issues. As in "this guy gets all the hype but doesn't train as hard as we do" Even the Crusaders comment on his work ethic and it shows on the field with his work rate off the ball. People get sick of hearing this story but I knew a few guys that played Junior League with SBW and they mention how hard he trained for someone so naturally gifted. Most of the gifted guys just did enough but SBW always trained hard to push the limits. Some say thats why he used to get injured alot as well (just a theory that did the rounds). I also agree with you that the AB's shouldn't pin all their hopes on him as well. He will be an important part of the campaign but I don't think they will pin it all on him. It'll be mostly on Carter & McCaw..

  • Martin - 2011-05-12 13:13

    I am a Stormers supporter and I really rate Jean but this Sonny Bill is really something. Man this guy can play!!! As a passionate rugby supporter, I cant wait to see more of this guy. He's attacking skills are really good and he has proved himself in defense. As for our SA coach, the less he says the better.

  • burtfred - 2011-05-12 13:16

    Sonny Boy Who?

  • Ryno Burger - 2011-05-12 13:18

    Div, I can't help but to laugh at your so called "attack" on SBW. He is the best the game has to offer, just get it already!

  • mike mason - 2011-05-12 13:19

    WPBEFONK are perhaps on TIK,did you not see how SBW bump off Jean de Villiers..What Class.Jean is a great player but i rate Fourie as really being the Best Centre in the WORLD.

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-05-13 09:47

      Why do you guys rate Fourie so highly..he's solid at best imo!!

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  • Frederik - 2011-05-12 13:22

    Great comment SBW replied Piet helium, Jean is in no way better than SBW, sad but true, Jean is the best in SA but thats all.

  • Zooma Lema - 2011-05-12 13:31

    Another papsak for Divvy. Shows you he cannot judge talent when he is facing it. We have nothing to compare with SBW in SA. Jean and Jaqui are the best conventional midfielders in the world but lack the flair of SBW. And Divvy vat nog 'n sluk - Habana is plain common useless.

  • Jim - 2011-05-12 13:34

    Peter De Villiers, Jean De Villiers,do you think they are related? SBW is proof that rugby league is by far a more entertaining game compared to union

  • Richie - 2011-05-12 13:34

    Dear SBW, I would just like to apologise on behalf of 99% of rugby fans in South-Africa... unfortunately we have a politically appointed buffoon for a coach. He is way-off-base and we sincerely apologise for his brain-dead and baseless rant. Good-luck, we all enjoy to watch you play and we look forward to a future of unbelievable contests with you. PS: Please note that the confusion you (NZ) seem to have about certain selections stem from the same problems, as mentioned above i.e; John Smit, Ricky January, Chilly boy, etc Enjoy winning the world-cup, just look out for France and Itally (they now have real coach). LOL

  • silverflash - 2011-05-12 13:45

    Where this worldcup will be won and lost is upfront and the interplay of the loose forwards and backs !! Cant Wait !!

      Dean O - 2011-05-12 15:56

      I believe the 2011 Rugby World Cup will be won in New Zealand, that is where they are hosting the tournament. Sorry, just a bit of wit.

  • Dan - 2011-05-12 13:46

    Div is making us the laughing stock of world rugby again. Eish this little funny man simply can't learn. His mouth will again be the Bok's main opposition in the RWC.

  • andrewMAG - 2011-05-12 13:58

    1995: jonah lomu jonah lomu jonah lomu...jonah who? 2011: sonny bill willaims sonny bill williams sonny bill williams....:-) ;-)

  • Hybrid - 2011-05-12 14:03

    We should stop worrying about SBW and rather focus on putting pressure on their pack of forwards. If the forwards are going backwards there's not much the backline can do with that ball no matter how good they are

  • roboman1 - 2011-05-12 14:07

    Snor is right, SBW will make that key mistake which is going to cost the All Blacks the 2011 world cup. He is good, but he tries to many fancy things, it may not even be his own fault, but those fancy moves do not hold under pressure, the French will lick this lot in 2011 and open the way for the Bokke, yet again!

      Kok - 2011-05-12 14:29

      roboman1: He should not concentrate to much on SBW. SBW will play from the bench in the WC. GH is not that dumb to experiment now. He'll stick with Nonu and Smith.

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-05-13 09:44

      @roboman..check the draw mate,the frogs are in our pool so they can not knock us out unless we meet in the final!! guys may have to try and do it yourselves this time!!

  • JBRSA - 2011-05-12 14:10

    Divot realy has a short memory as well as stature...who could forget a guy named Campezi, who with a similar flair in the backline was probably the biggest factor in the Aussies RWC success in the early '90's. A player who can keep the defence always a blessing

  • Kok - 2011-05-12 14:15

    What a man!!!!!

  • Claude - 2011-05-12 14:53

    SBW should not take anything that Div says seriously as I have yet to hear or read an intelligent comment that comes from him.

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  • Cire - 2011-05-12 15:06

    Well said SBW! Most South Africans love the way you play rugby and consider you a worthy opponent. PDV is just a silly little man!

  • cupid1984 - 2011-05-12 15:49

    As good as he is so far, I think Henry will use him as an impact player and keep him on the Bench instead. For me this is the right approach. You dont want him to burn out for a new player to union. Although Nonu and Smith have been poor due to the teams appauling effort this year, they are both my preferred center pairing and will standout come tri nations. The differnce between SBW and Nonu is that SBW can catch and pass the ball on target

  • Taupstar - 2011-05-12 15:59

    why didnt they expose him after the sharks game, came the bulls game then the stormers game so the two latter had ample time to figure out how to stop him and that was b4 your beloved best coach in the world said sonny will get a welcome of all welcomes by the stormers centre pairning and shalk comn in for the smash, well the only one who got smashed were the stormers on there home turf, there were some big hits comn in all from the crusaders, crockettt franks and sonny, you should watch the game again !!!

  • Mark - 2011-05-12 16:08

    SBw is the flavour of the moment nothing more. Just like Lomu was and Habana was. Rugby is above all a team game. Quite soon his style will be analysed, dissected, replicated and neutralised. Then the next SBW will arise hopefully in South africa this time. Lambie????? he is 6 years younger who knows

      MaestroX - 2011-05-12 16:35

      Dude, players like Lomu and SBW come along once every 20-30 years if you are lucky. Lambie is the most overrated player in SA, I think he has potential to be a very good player but will never be a factor like Lomu was. We have not had a world class game breaker for years; our last great was probably Dannie Gerber and how long ago was that? Seriously, name me more than one SA player (past and present) that would walk into an all time world 15? Of our current players i think Bekker has a real chance at becoming the best lock of all time, if he gives it his all. It’s not all doom and gloom, we still have 2 WC's and its testament to our guts, determination and general depth at all levels of the game, also that it’s a team game, and not one determined by a super star. But I must say I am longing for a truly great player again.

  • Mark - 2011-05-12 16:12

    SBW is the flavour of the moment nothing more. We had Lomu then Habana. Rugby is above all a team game. Shortly his style and skill set will be analysed, dissected, replicated and then neutralised. then the next SBW will arise. Hopefully in South africa this time. Lambie??? he is 6 years younger with potentially 4 world cups in him. Who knows

  • Taupstar - 2011-05-12 16:15

    sonny bill is the new modern day archillies all the skills of a gladiator, league is tougher then rugby, you boks should watch it and i dont mean 5minutes either watch the upcomn state of origin series or any of the nrl games youd be amazed of the skills and hits and tackles they make in league, they go out to physically hurt you, and sonny was the best at hurting the oppostion, even the legends are in awe of sonnybill, and theres many legends but none so more talked about then sonny mean kiwis mean !!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-12 18:31

      @Taupstar - I have watched some league, not much, but enough to know that Benji Marshall is a legend.

      Wolfgang Andrew - 2011-05-13 02:42

      Taupster I agree, league is an incredibly tough game, particulary in the head on collision. at rugby training we would often have league defensive coaches to teach us proper tackling technique- hard ball and all tackling which is not common in rugby union. I do have to ask, who are these league legends who still speak of sonny bill? gorden tallis?webke?johns? Who?He never played in state of origin as he was ineligible( as a kiwi)... The wallabies would be fantastic if we had Greg inglis at outside centre, a shame so many tough athletes are running around in league.

      splatgunnz - 2011-05-13 04:06

      @ Wolfgang Andrew... If the Wallabies had Greg Inglis, Jamal Idris, Justin Hodges, Robbie Farah, Darius Boyd, Brett Morris, Jonathan Thurston and Josh Dugan, then as a kiwi I would be very nervous come test time! Imagine a backline wih them in it... 9 Farah 10 Thurston... however, I'd still put Quade Cooper in over him. 11 Morris 12 Idris 13 Inglis 14 Boyd 15 Dugan Will Genia, James O'Connor & Digby Ioane to fill up reserves spots allocated for the backs and then the Wallabies would be awesome, but I'm a kiwi through & through so the All Blacks will do me fine.

  • Jeremy - 2011-05-12 16:44

    Div's a complete idiot. No vocal training will ever curb the mumbo-jumbo he regularly launches. SBW has been a highly acclaimed phenomenon in the league skills he has brought to union. Put talented runners amongst him (i.e. fruean, maitland, guildford, etc. In fact any able ball carrier) and you playing with fire. Let see what SBW ("not suited to test rugby" - cue Div's nosy voice) does to us in the WC. I'm afraid the AB gonna crush us and in the process force Div to once again eat his words.

  • Anthony - 2011-05-12 17:03 needs players like Sonny Bill, it adds a new dimension. Coaches like Pdiv will stifle a talent like that, he wants rugby football to be played in a way he understands the game....with Pdiv in charge I imagine any South African rugby player who shows a bit of individual talent will not even be considered in his much for our chances in NZ!

  • Mark - 2011-05-12 18:05

    SBW is the best centre in world rugby at the moment, look how he made Jean DV & J Fourie look average.

  • David - 2011-05-12 19:47

    SBW - cocky monkey performing monkey skills on a rugby field.

  • derek55 - 2011-05-12 22:40

    I cannot believe that no one in any of the comments I have read in this forum (I have not read them all) gets the point, including PdV. The Crusaders (and New Zealand players in general) won purely because of their ability to PASS the ball and SBW was brilliant at this aspect, no one can argue against this. He barely got tackled without offloading. Check the scoreline as proof. South Africans cannot pass. Why? Maybe they are not taught to from school. The modern game is fast, furious and in a constant state of change. We have to keep up with the times. Watch the videos of all the games we lose, it is obvious that our inability to pass the ball is the cause of the losses!!!

      Crusaderinvader - 2011-05-13 09:37

      I agree with you, how can players reach this level without being able to perform some of the basics of the does my head in. If you can't pass in NZ you either don't make it to the top level or you get taught how to in no time. In saying that, most of the Northern Hemisphere players struggle with this skill also!!