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SARU investigating Kings

2013-03-19 15:52

Cape Town - The South African Rugby Union (SARU) has established an investigation into a suspected breach of its Super Rugby participation agreement by the Kings. 

Jurie Roux, CEO of SARU, contacted Cheeky Watson, the chairperson of the Kings board, on Tuesday to advise him of the inquiry and also to caution him against any potential breaches.

The matter was discussed by an emergency teleconference of the Executive Council (EXCO) of SARU on Tuesday. The EXCO, in accordance with the SARU disciplinary and judicial regulations, decided to appoint a judicial sub-committee to investigate the allegation.

In the event of a breach being proved there is a wide range of sanctions available, starting from a caution to a maximum fine of R1m or a recommendation to the general council to suspend or expel the offending organisation.

This comes after the Kings fielded three foreign players in their 35-24 Super Rugby loss to the Chiefs last Friday.

Captain Darron Nell was injured in the warm-up prior to the game, which saw Argentine loose forward Tomás Leonardi join countryman Nicolas Vergallo on the bench. New Zealander Hadleigh Parkes started at inside centre, which meant the Kings fielded three foreign players in their squad - one more than the two allowed by SARU.

Leonardi was on the field from the 23rd to the 32nd minute as a replacement, and again from the 58th minute onwards, while scrumhalf Vergallo came on in 79th minute. Parkes was substituted in the 72nd minute.

Two other players, prop Jaco Engels (Namibia) and forward Daniel Adongo (Kenya), also came off the bench but are not considered foreigners, as players from the African continent are not regarded as foreign players, according to SARU policy.

All five were also included in the Kings' squad for their current Australasian tour, which starts with a clash against the Crusaders in Christchurch on Saturday (kick-off is at 08:35 SA time).

Kings' squad for their Australasian tour:

Darron Nell (calf), SP Marais (knee) and Luke Watson (throat) stayed behind due to injuries.

Andries Strauss, Bandise Maku, Cornell du Preez, Daniel Adongo, David Bulbring, Demetri Catrakilis, Elric van Vuuren, George Whitehead, Grant Kemp, Hadleigh Parkes, Jaco Engels, Vleis Engelbrecht, Hannes Franklin, Kevin Buys, Marcello Sampson, Nicolas Vergallo, Ronnie Cooke, Rynier Bernardo, Schalk Ferreira, Sergeal Petersen, Shaun Venter, Steven Sykes, Tomas Leonardi, Virgile Lacombe, Waylon Murray, Wimpie van der Walt

Sport24

Comments
  • Sean Diesel - 2013-03-19 15:59

    Well nothing the Kings has done so far is worse than how the Stormers receives games on plates from the refs. Shocking.

      jaco.skalkwyk.3 - 2013-03-19 16:17

      What does the Stormers have to do with this article? Did you watch the 1st game of the Stormers? Even SARU said the ref was wrong, so your argument hold no water, unlike your brain.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-03-19 16:21

      I pity you Sean. Poor deluded kings fan. Grasping at straws, supporting a corrupt system, hoping for the best while knowing failure stares you in the face. Hahahaha....

      Sean Diesel - 2013-03-19 16:26

      @Jaco Skalkwyk Ek is p@&s sterk

      jaco.skalkwyk.3 - 2013-03-19 16:47

      Lol. Mooi man. Daai steriods werk dan. Nou gaan tel jy `n paar boeke op en kyk of jy daai IK kan oefen.

      Sean Diesel - 2013-03-19 17:03

      Weereens dom das, niemand lag nie next

      stirrer.stirrer - 2013-03-19 17:05

      Sean, haal die "sterk" uit en voeg "'n" by na "Ek is". Dan is jou kommint 100% korrek.

      npretorius2 - 2013-03-19 17:12

      @Sean, I dont know if your'e a Kings supporter, but if you are, you are giving us a bad name! Get rid of the Watsons already, let the talent speak for itself!! Bring back Alister Coetzee as Coach, he and Alan Solomons will make a greate Coaching team.

      Sean Diesel - 2013-03-19 18:22

      sjoe stirrer, baie mooi jong, is dit nou jou bydrae vir die dag?

      Sans Blom - 2013-03-19 22:02

      Whahahaha Sean jy is 'n nar behalwe narre gebruik nie sulke commin woorde nie. Kruip terug in die gat waar jy vandaan kom jy kan maar net droom van 'n span so goed soos die Stormers.

      Peter Boettger - 2013-03-20 04:35

      Diesel the surname fits the moment .to take cheap shots shows you what we are dealing with stop picking up STOMPIES

  • riaan.herselman.7 - 2013-03-19 16:04

    The mistake was from the start , 15 local EC players . That was the whole idea ?

      steven.berry.319 - 2013-03-19 16:18

      Do the bulls have 15 players from the the Bulls union, WP have the Cape... ect ect Also its a 27 man squad for the record, some might not even make the subs bench... injury depending! Wake up a lil please

      Godfrey Welman - 2013-03-19 16:36

      @Riaan...do you have proof of this???

      robert.rob.7505 - 2013-03-19 16:40

      Well if a player is in the Bulls side, I guess he must be from the Bulls union. Numerous players are bought from various unions to meet specific quota figures. The big unions - Sharks, Bulls and Stormers have numerous "mercenaries" bought from within the confines of other unions. Rugby is a professional sport. The Bulls are very aware of latent talent and buy unrecognised young players who will be nurtured and trained for greater rugby!

      1amAlan - 2013-03-19 17:33

      Yup, I agree. Unrecognised like Sadie, Engelbrecht, Mapoe.

      Neville Watson - 2013-03-19 18:08

      @steven - the point is that CHeeky sold the Kings debacle to saru on the back of transformation and local development. He had us believe that he could select a squad out of the eastern cape alone that would be competitive. He lied.

  • Petro van Rooyen - 2013-03-19 16:17

    The Kings was allowed on a political basis only, for development purposes, and that is not what is happening in any case. Where are the EP's black players? Not many in the team, for sure.

      1amAlan - 2013-03-19 17:36

      You would have them led like lambs to the slaughter? You are very brave to start a business without experience - some will make it, but 90% will fail in their first year. The Kings are no different. They will nurture those players by bringing them in gradually.

  • sounesc - 2013-03-19 16:19

    I would think that if you do not have an SA passport then you are a "foreigner". Nothing these Watsons do surprises me !

      Godfrey Welman - 2013-03-19 16:48

      I have come to the conclusion that SARU does not know the difference between local and foreign, based on the fact that Pampas XV (all foreigers as do not have SA passports) are playing in our LOCAL Vodacom Cup.

  • darryl.farmer.79 - 2013-03-19 16:19

    I say it's a southern mistake............join our page and spread the word https://www.facebook.com/SouthernMistake

      joe.dewit.9 - 2013-03-19 16:22

      tsek

      joe.dewit.9 - 2013-03-19 16:26

      you just cant accept the fact that the Kings are performing much better than you anticipated!!

      Detective.Kruger - 2013-03-19 17:34

      Everyone should report Darryl as news 24 policy states NO advertising of other websites

      Marnus Lamprecht - 2013-03-19 20:18

      joe.dewit they are performing so well that after 3 home games they are last on the SA conference log and second from last on the over-all log...Very well done indeed!

      joe.dewit.9 - 2013-03-20 08:22

      Marnus, het ek gese hulle doen goed. Nee jou poophole, maar hulle doen wel baie beter as die 50punte plus wat voorspel is vir hulle...

  • Matt Prinsloo - 2013-03-19 16:28

    The real idiots that need to be investigated, are not the Kings. But the pathetic management at SARU who only announced their decision 5 months before SR 2013 was supposed to start. They knew since 2005 / 6, that they had to make a plan, but they waited till the last minute, VIVA THE KINGS!! EC Rugby on the Rise!!!

      anthony.cowen.50 - 2013-03-19 16:40

      Well said,I want to see 42000 people fill Ellis Park when the Lions play

      npretorius2 - 2013-03-19 17:18

      So true!! The biggest problem came when they reduced the Currie Cup Premier division to 6 sides, its difficult to make the jump without the $$$ the bigger unions have from First Division. The fact of the matter is the other SS sides have a MASSIVE financial advantage over the kings. Two years of super rugby on and we will be set for years to come. We only need to cap the mass exodus of talent to the bulls, sharks and Stormers from the Eastern Cape for a few years and create a thriving enviroment for player development. This takes time and cant be achieved in one season. Im all for the promo relegation matches, it will keep the weaker teams on their toes and create better quality rugby for the entire SA. PS. The Kings will thrash the lions in the Promotion Relegation match IF they qualify botton of the log :)

      Van Vuuren Nico - 2013-03-19 17:37

      You need talent to compete in the Curry Cup Premier Division or the Super Rugby, not big dollars. That is how Griquas has survived and thrived all these years.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-03-19 18:14

      You guys are soooo funny. Hahahaha.... Welcome to a world of pain as the season goes on and your side loses players to injuries....

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2013-03-19 16:30

    How difficult would it be to investigate, just remember to pack your calculators.

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2013-03-19 16:34

    Kings Suck....nuff said!!!!

      frankgerald - 2013-03-19 17:53

      The lions fans sucks bigtime! The Cheeky and Luke Watson haters fan club members sucks! The racist hyprocrates sucks who cannot embrace the new SA, I'm reffering here to black and white. Just leave the Kings alone,thank you!

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-03-19 18:15

      Ah, Frankie. How much are they paying you lad? No one in his right mind would promote this stupid side for free...

      frankgerald - 2013-03-19 20:26

      @Pilot its just for the love of the game and for the love of the Kings!

  • anthony.cowen.50 - 2013-03-19 16:38

    SARU must get fired they are the ones that changed this from a 3 year period to only 1 year for the S/ Kings to prove themselves they are nothing but yellow bellied hypocrites!

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-03-19 18:16

      Only 3 matches down and you are already whining about getting only one year... show some belief in you side man. Wait... hahahah....

  • frankgerald - 2013-03-19 16:52

    Hope the Haters has read the article before throughing their cheap two cent coins into the plate. Firstly it is a suspected breach. Secondly its an inquiry and not a guilty verdict. Will start to read now to check-out the possible lots of cheap coins from the pathetic sour grape haters. It is normally much better to comment on the conclusion of the inquiry once you know all the facts!

      frankgerald - 2013-03-19 17:45

      @Tyronne I'm sure that you an intelligent person. Innocent untill proven guilty not my words! Why get an inquiry? Why suspected breach? Remember just recently about the five foreign players when everybody think that the Kings were guilty while it was only later realized that the reporting of sports24 was actually incorrect just to get the bad type of reactions from readers or Kings haters? like you!

      frankgerald - 2013-03-19 18:48

      @Adrian insults not the way to go mister or are you starting to hate me as well? Just for supporting my team?

      frankgerald - 2013-03-19 20:16

      @Adrian just shut-up your pie-hole and leave me and the Kings alone! You are becoming a pathetic stalker! Freak!

      Gregory Tarboton - 2013-03-19 20:26

      @ adrian, seriously dude ignore this frankie boy, some advice I was given, he is a moron and is apprently Cheeky's PR man. Nothing intelligent or worth reading comes from him.

      frankgerald - 2013-03-19 22:11

      Gregory you and Adrian deserves each other...! Just leave me and the Kings alone we don't need stupid morons like you! You two low-lifes should get a room! I will only comment or reply the next time if you talk about the real issue at hand which is rugby. I don't normally throw insults around but you low degree of intelligence has unfortunetly force my hand. Hope I'm wrong about you two.

  • Warren Douglas Lloyd Manning - 2013-03-19 16:58

    Who gives a flying middle finger - Go kings! The only politics happing here are people alluding to it so much, proud cheetah!

      Sans Blom - 2013-03-19 22:20

      Was die bordjies verhang en die Cheetahs vervang deur die Queens sou jy tog 'n flying middel finger gegee het. Dit was so amper of julle het uitgeval uit die Curry Cup. Probeer jou indink hoe jy sou gevoel het as daai promotion relegation tussen Cheetahs en Kings nie plaasgevind het vir die Curry Cup nie. Hoe sou jy gevoel het as jou span net uit die Curry Cup moes val oor die Queens Cheecky is?

  • Gail Gradidge - 2013-03-19 17:01

    Surely the Kings should have picked players from the very good coloured rugby clubs in Eastern Cape, of which there are many and have always been. I thought that was the point of them been included in the Super Rugby union!!! This has been making me furious. As far as I am concerned the players from the rest of Africa that were fielded are also foreigners. give our Eastern Cape rubgy guys a chance as you promised!!!!

      Gregory Tarboton - 2013-03-19 18:36

      Couldn't agree with you more Gail, that was the promise that was made by Cheeky, and he has failed to deliver totally on that promise. So either he was lying when he bragged like that last year or doesn't have the courage of his convictions.

      Kurt Fredericks - 2013-03-19 20:37

      Gail what planet are you from. What happend to your MERRIT mantra people like you having been screaming since the beginning of time. Disgusted by your C term and dont care if you are a C. With your mentallity please do not breed. Ps. Can you please refer me to your references where it was stated that the kings will play C players as a condition of thier inclusion in Super Rugby.

  • BlouMasjien BlouBloed - 2013-03-19 17:08

    Saru needs to get their act together, otherwise ,the Kings will keep on exploiting the loopholes, just like the stormers keep on exploiting the poopholes.

      Brendan Keith Shaw - 2013-03-19 19:24

      I agree and also with regards to a certain so-called Varsity cup team as well

  • Michael Nelson - 2013-03-19 17:10

    SARU has established an EXCO that has appointed a judicial sub-committee..... to launch an investigative probe to be compiled by a non-executive disciplinary body that must present their findings to ..... WTF is happening here??? - rugby is starting to sound like that bunch of hyenas masquerading as a political party - let's just get on with the fogging game man!!!!!

  • Leon Young - 2013-03-19 18:13

    Damn why you guys hate my home union so much why don't you want the kings in the super series surely the watson's can't be the only reason or are you haters worried that eastern cape players will remain with the kings and we will become the most powerful franchise in world rugby as it is half the bulls and sharks teams consist of players from this region with the stormers and cheetahs not far behind come on guys support the kings please

      Gregory Tarboton - 2013-03-19 20:12

      Hate has nothing to do with it. Cheeky made extravagant promises that he hasn't kept. And then again it was politics and not sporting ability that got them into super rugby. And don't judge their season on a coupke of home games, judge them after they have played away from home. And yes they have been magnificent in the games they have played, especially when considering that this is their rookie year.

      Sans Blom - 2013-03-19 21:12

      You were not aware of the politics involved to get the Kings to participate in Super Rugby? Where have you been? I'm not even a Lions supporter but I find the way this promotion to Super Rugby has been done totally unacceptable. What about the Lions? Did anybody consider what damage this can do to sport and South Africa's image? Then promises were made to promote the local players which was the reason why this whole promotion happened. Where are these local players? O look foreigners are now considered local players? What a joke!!

      bootman.bokke - 2013-03-19 22:42

      Leon it is only the boere that hate the Kings. I'm glad to have them in SR. Look at every post against the Kings and you will notice that it is always some dumb dutchman who can barely spell his own name. Sleep easy dude. The Kings are going nowhere. If it is found that they have contravened some or other rule, they will get off with a warning at best. You guys up in PE just keep going to the games and your boys will come good. Go Kings, Go Stormers Go F*&%$ yourself Bulls.

      kenneth.fisher.750 - 2013-03-19 22:55

      Kings have played much better than was expected. Can't take away the fact that they have given it their all. That being said,yes a lot of players in other unions went to school in Eastern Cape. Not all were born there though. Due to the fact that EC has historically had some of the best boarding schools, players from other areas were sent there for schooling and varsity. I am a Lions fan and yeah I wasn't happy with how things were done but one can't deny the fact that the Lions (even with their proud rugby history) under performed for a long time and EP has been starved of good rugby for a long time. They definitely haven't embarrassed themselves. I think a fine will suffice. After all we are all South Africans and the more we expose the youngsters to top rugby the stronger the Bokke get and at the end of the day that is what counts.

  • Cape Gtown - 2013-03-19 18:54

    Where the hell is the ambiguity? If you're not South African, then you're foreign. The Watsons' push for an Eastern Cape team in Super Rugby was quite strongly based on the premise that they would develop the previously disadvantaged and would give them more opportunities yet we now have administrators implying that Argentinians, Kenyans and Namibians are classified as "local" players? We should boycott all SuperRugby games in South Africa if SARU don't act against the Kings. We want locals players representing our local franchises!

      bootman.bokke - 2013-03-19 22:53

      Who's we ? You boycott by yourself like an idiot.................and the rest of us will enjoy the rugby.

  • Gerald Beer - 2013-03-19 21:13

    Sadly it would appear the Kings are trying to make fools out of SARU. If they had won all their games then perhaps it would be worth complaining about, however I think Cheeky and the Kings have made enough comments to make themselves look like fools without SARU's help.

  • Francois Faf Petzer - 2013-03-19 21:15

    Ek gaan n campaign begin vir die Lions... F#% die politiek en f%$ die Watsons en F&$ die Kings

      Berto Petra Mostert - 2013-03-19 21:46

      Wies jy dat somebody of note hulle aan jou gaan steur!?

      bootman.bokke - 2013-03-19 22:50

      OMG Petzer. You're F&%$ing pathetic. Campaign???? Black and coloured people know how to fight for what they want. They will even die for it. White people just throw tantrums on internet forums when they're unhappy.

      joe.dewit.9 - 2013-03-20 08:20

      Ek gaan n campaign begin vir die mense met common sense... F#% Francois Petzer en f%$ sy mammie en F&$ sy sussie

  • Berto Petra Mostert - 2013-03-19 21:57

    Ai rog die Lions ondersteuners is tog so bitter! Die Kings is daar om te bly! Gaan kyk maar Superrugby op Loftus - die uitspeel vir 'n plek in 2014 superrugby sal wees tussen die Leeus en die Bulls! Hoekom was julle paviljoene so leeg teen die ou Franse 2deliga spannetjie?

      Johan Lensley - 2013-03-19 23:35

      Verstaan jy waaroor jy praat suster? Teen die bulls? Franse 2de liga spannetjie? Pfftt! Enigste tweede liga spannetjie hier is die EP Kings! Uitspeel is vir die laaste geplaasde span...aka Die Kings!

      louis.bensch.31 - 2013-03-20 09:23

      Julle paviljoene is maar net vol omdat julle niks gewoond is nie en die kaartjies verniet weggegee word.

  • Jaco Joubert - 2013-03-20 07:55

    Cheeky en Luke Kotze moet maar die kings gaan in skryf by n hengelklub volgende jaar.

  • Jason Pearce - 2013-03-20 11:12

    New Zealand sides are made up of 50% and more non-NZ players. Hence the SARU equivalent of African players not counting as overseas players

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