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SANZAR to probe dubious call

2012-03-13 07:43

Cape Town - A controversial late penalty, which sunk the Cheetahs in their clash against the Brumbies, will be investigated by SANZAR.

The Brumbies won their Super Rugby clash in Canberra 24-23 after centre Christian Lealiifano kicked a penalty after the hooter had sounded.

Referee Keith Brown awarded a dubious penalty to the home side after he felt the Cheetahs deliberately swayed the scrum.

Brown punished the Cheetahs on several occasions, especially at the scrums.

And Lyndon Bray, SANZAR's refereeing boss, told the Beeld newspaper that three scrum specialists - former Bok prop Balie Swart, NZ scrum guru Mike Cron and former Wallaby prop Patricio Noriega - will study that last penalty against the Cheetahs as well as two other calls over the weekend to determine if the right decisions were made.

"Keith may not have been very sharp with the early engagement of the scrums and therefore it wasn't a pretty sight throughout the game.

"But, concerning that last decision, we'll have to determine if the teams firstly scrummed forward and then lawfully swayed the scrum with momentum.

"When it sways immediately without force, it may be unlawful," said Bray.

Bray is currently in South Africa where he is meeting with several local coaches and referees.

Sport24

Comments
  • Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 07:57

    They should rather (analy) probe that idiot Mike Heron who deemed it fit to only suspend Thug Ranger for 2 weeks after his 'tackle' on Basson..

      chiepner - 2012-03-13 08:06

      Bulldozer - did we expect anything less? I mean SANZAR came firing with "the dissiplinary process has been leveled" but lets be brutally honset here - if an Aussie or Zealander transgress the laws they usually walk away with a slap on the wrist or a lesser sentence. If a South African transgress he will get the entire kitchen sink with the geyser included. This will never change unfrotunatly. It seems some teams and countries get preferential treatment and we should by now be used to this. Pity SARU has got no balls most of the times.

      John - 2012-03-13 08:07

      What are you looking for chump? Life in prison without payroll?

      Jason - 2012-03-13 08:12

      Still weeping eh? When I heard about that guy throwing the bottle at the blues player I immediately thought it was you :)

      Lionel - 2012-03-13 08:12

      Clint,you are sooooo correct!!!! True,SARU needs to grow balls and start standing up to these .................

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 08:13

      John, now you are over exasperating.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 08:13

      Jayded, it was my father. Nog iets?

      John - 2012-03-13 08:52

      @ Christo - no I meant parole.

      Francois - 2012-03-13 08:58

      that was a beautifull tackle on a doper.. shoulda gota high five instead of a ban... and you okes need to get your fans in check... your whole blerrie thing is lame, stupid fans, stupid pink jerseys... shame man....

      Francois - 2012-03-13 09:04

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDy2hcUXvvE&context=C42b4211ADvjVQa1PpcFPEfAhdJ4jWLl4mFUEbEUJ_hGJa8feZVeA= theres your stupid dad and your lame fans..

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 09:20

      Francois, ek hoop jou laaitie word eendag so getackle, dan kyk ons hoe beautiful dit dan is. Ek hoop ek sien dit.

      Dwerg - 2012-03-13 10:53

      @ Dozer - Ranger se tackle was nie so erg nie. Enige speler sal tot op die laaste verdedig. Somtyds kry spelers seer, vra André Snyman en Pat Mccutcheon... hou op moan

      Francois - 2012-03-13 11:01

      dozer my laaitie gaan nie propvol dwelms is nie.. en as ek hom vang tackle ek hom harder as daai tackle...hehehe

      Grant - 2012-03-13 11:33

      @Francois - I havent seen the tackle, so I thought your youtube link might shed some light... Just wondering why the tackle in question isnt shown?

      Alan - 2012-03-14 09:26

      Should have been 4 weeks, it was his 2nd similar guilty offence (of those sanzar charge him with so ok it was his 20th offence as kiwis are only charged 1 in 10 times). if it were an SA player it would be 8 weeks reduced to 6 for pleading guilty...

  • aubrey.gloster - 2012-03-13 07:59

    Why not probe the Lions match. 2 dubious deciscions cost the Lions B team the match.

      Marcel - 2012-03-13 09:14

      so without jantjies the lions are a B team. i.o.w. its only jantjies that makes you a class act.

      Grant - 2012-03-13 11:38

      @aubrey - if you are referring to Lawrence's new "rule" that seems to state that Bismark DuPlessis is never allowed to pick up the ball, even if he is on his feet where no ruck has formed, then yes, it should be probed. The Lions were 100% outplayed and outclassed - the reffing is the only reason why they even got on the scoreboard!

  • aubrey.gloster - 2012-03-13 08:01

    O ja gaan lees in die Beeld oom Nel se verduideliking van die bottelgooiery. Soos ek gister telkemale gesê het is die voorval uit verband geruk.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 08:03

      Ek stem. My pa het glad nie gemik vir Mealamu nie.

      aubrey.gloster - 2012-03-13 08:18

      Bulldozer nou dat ek jou Pa onmoet het besef ek eers watter pragtige tipies Afrikaanse familie julle is.Hy moet net leer mik dan sal hy ook nie per ongeluk die PH raakskiet as julle gaan jag nie he he he he ha ha ha

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 08:31

      Dankie Aubrey, ek waardeer dit. Ons is trots op ons heritiedge en probeer afrikaans promout waar ons gaan.

      Rinus - 2012-03-13 08:33

      Uit verband uit? Kyk bietjie hierna: http://www.youtube.com/?watch?v=zDy2hcUXvvE&feature?=youtube_gdata_player Skaam my dood vir die tappits met seisoenkaartjies!!

  • chiepner - 2012-03-13 08:02

    Hey I know who will get the next top referee award in that country!

  • Alan - 2012-03-13 08:04

    What? Another cheating New Zealand ref? Impossible!!

  • Lionel - 2012-03-13 08:07

    And if it is a dubious decision will the Cheetahs be awarded the points?????

      Saffa - 2012-03-13 08:17

      If you really wanna have a frikkin laugh this morning - check this out :) Check the photos....hehehehehhe.http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Bottelgooier-Ek-wou-net-help-20120312

      aubrey.gloster - 2012-03-13 08:20

      @ Saffa why do you laugh are'nt you a Bulls supporters?

      Saffa - 2012-03-13 08:26

      That would be the fake Saffa - the real Saffa (MOI) finds the Bulls as appetising as Malema......

      Saffa - 2012-03-13 09:31

      Yes @Dozey....and due to an 'as yet undiagnosed disorder' I am able to remain awake 24 hours a day, 365 days a year........hence my posting 24/7. I am a miracle of nature. PS: plz go and read that article, and then tell your dad to think of something a little more credible than "I know a little First Aid, so I thought I could help" before he appears in court.....

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 09:38

      Saffa, it's called insomnia. Why so worked up?

      Saffa - 2012-03-13 09:41

      Blame it on insomnia....

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 09:45

      Nou drink n pilletjie en n koppie Horlicks.

  • Shaun Robinson - 2012-03-13 08:08

    Okay so what then if they find it was the incorrect call??? Freakin hell we had the incorrect ref for our quarter final against the Australians, but once the whistle blows... :(

      Grant - 2012-03-13 11:46

      Well then they will take the ref behind closed-doors and may or may not reprimand him. I imagine that the disciplinary process will be something similar to the ANC's one over Whinnie's speeding! Probably super-harsh!! :P

  • Rinus - 2012-03-13 08:31

    Maar Watson sê mos die refs doen NIKS verkeerd nie!

  • Madie - 2012-03-13 08:56

    I would like to know why Walsh did not give the penalty to the Bulls after that silly "tackle" on basson? Even though the hooter went, because the incident took place before the hooter went. And, had Walsh gave the penalty after the conversion, could the Bulles only go fot posts from the middle or could they take a tap kick to launch an attack?

      S - 2012-03-13 09:06

      Walsh was correct, the rules are clear. If play continues after full time, and a penalty offence occurs while the ball is still in play, the penalty will accrue. If the ball is dead, no penalty. Once Basson scored the try, the ball was dead.

      Saffa - 2012-03-13 09:33

      Oh dear trolls and tonsils @Madie. Asked and answered about 1000000000 times since Saturday. Bou 'n brug en kom daaroor.

      Saffa - 2012-03-13 09:40

      Blame it on insomnia.....no sleep in 189 days and counting.

      Grant - 2012-03-13 12:04

      @Stirrer - I'm afraid you are 100% wrong! The game did not end as the try was scored - it ended once the conversion was kicked! This means that, when the offense occurred, the game was still in play, meaning a penalty SHOULD have been awarded. @Jaco - there is no way that tackle was fair. Firstly, you are not allowed to dive on a player on the ground, secondly you have to use arms in the tackle, and thirdly you may not lead with the shoulder. That tackle was intended to injure, and was illegal in at least 3 ways!

  • Herman - 2012-03-13 09:04

    Scrums have become a gamble, it is all about safety and penalties, the refs have no real idea what happens in a scrum and to the life can't determine who wronged or why it happened. Scrums used to be exiting to watch, now it is a ritual of nothingness, waiting to see who gets the penalty.

      Rinus - 2012-03-13 09:09

      I agree - the only exitement left is to see which side gets the penalty!

  • Johan - 2012-03-13 09:16

    And then what?

  • Ann - 2012-03-13 09:17

    About time the Sanzar officials did something useful.

  • jfenenga - 2012-03-13 09:46

    Seems Sanzar meet out punishment differently according to country the offender comes from. Hab Schalk Burger tackled Basson he would have been out for six weeks. Ranger has as bad a history as Burger but is from SA-- sad but true. Steve Walsh stops a game with the offender getting a yellow, in other words an offensive but stops the game cause of full time. Will Sanzar probe this --no!! Super clean Steve Walsh gets away with his decision. Dissolve Sanzar-- they are a bunch of one sided thugs.

  • tony.delucchi - 2012-03-13 13:12

    ...the refs and their interpretations of the rules is going to kill rugby!

  • Andrew - 2012-03-13 14:03

    WE DONT BELEIVE YOU WILL CHANGE ANY THING......................... What a joke..............

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