SANZAR open to expansion talk

2012-08-07 17:48

Cape Town - SANZAR chief executive Greg Peters has revealed his organisation is ready to consider ideas to possibly alter the shape of the Super Rugby tournament.

The current conference-based format cannot be changed under the terms of the latest broadcasting deal which runs until 2015 but Peters told the ESPNscrum website that the Southern Hemisphere's governing body is open to expansion talk in future.

"We will certainly start to consider it," he told the website. "It is another thing that the conference format allows us to do and, we can add teams and add conferences.

"When we look at 2016 onwards, we have no closed views on what the future may look like and our current format allows us to expand should we wish to and should it be in the best interests of the three SANZAR countries to do so because that is why we do this."

The current conference system has received some criticism of late, especially with Australia getting an advantage despite their top team finishing behind some of South Africa and New Zealand's second and third placed teams on log points. The Reds - who won the Australian conference this year - received a home playoff clash despite having the least number of log points of all the top six teams.

The South African Rugby Union (SARU) is also keen to see an expansion to the tournament with the pressure growing to accommodate its existing five sides and the Southern Kings.

However, SANZAR may even look further afield if it makes commercial sense with Rugby Championship newcomers Argentina, Japan, the USA and the Pacific Islands all mentioned as possible new territories in terms of teams and conferences.

"We haven't engaged formally with people in the new territories that may want to come into Super Rugby," said Peters. "I am sure Argentina will have aspirations to do so if their entry into the Rugby Championship is the success we all know it will be.

"There are a number of options we could consider and obviously Asia-Pacific is a strong area for the future given Japan is hosting the 2019 World Cup and the interest in rugby is going to grow in that area without doubt and we all know the strength of the Pacific Island players in our competitions currently.

"There are a lot of opportunities, including others in the Americas, but the ultimate goal for SANZAR is to do what is best for the three main countries. You have to get additional commercial value into the equation before you can expand into any new territories."

These last mentioned scenarios will obviously not be favourable for South Africa, who's desperate to get six teams into the competition to accomodate the Port Elizabeth-based Kings.


  • harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-08-07 17:52

    Just get rid of the Stormers. They are a disgrace to world rugby.

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-08-07 17:54

      or better let them play against a Top rated team during the Pool games... See if they make the Semi's then...

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-07 18:32

      They have been officially renamed to The DHL Chokers

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-07 18:45

      I think they need to expand in Japan. There is another South African franchise there, maybe even into England and include the Saracens.

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-07 18:53

      Just drop the Koeitjies from Pretoria, they can't even beat the Stormers on their on field!

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-07 18:54

      Just drop the Koeitjies from Pretoria, they can't even beat the Stormers on their own field!

      naeem.february - 2012-08-07 19:49

      Haha...the Lions,force,warathas,rebels,cheetas,hurricanes,highlanders,stormers,sharks all never ever won a super rugby title yet! S0o shouldn't that be a disgrace as well? Then let's have a super rugby comp between Blues,Brumbies,reds,crusaders,bulls and chiefs alone...that would be interisting hey??? Haha atleast my stormerS won the team that's not a 'disgrace' twice in 1 season:)and remember 2007,2009,2010 is the past...we still in 2012...

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-08-07 19:53

      Naeem you so proud of winning one team... Quite sad actually, it's a pity that you won wrong the team Twice... Have Choking licking day...

      marthinus.crous - 2012-08-07 19:58

      @ Naeem the then transvaal won the very first super rugby title.

      foodfor.thought.73 - 2012-08-07 22:31

      @NAEEM.FEBRUARY, obviously your level of rugby knowledge is lower than your shadow. You should rather keep your mouth shut... It is obvious that you are a bull supporter...

      phillip.beukes.5 - 2012-08-08 07:27

      Naeem, it seems as if you pin your hopes on beating the Bulls, and then think you are the best team... think about that, it really is an admission that the Bulls is the team to beat... Sadly you lost 2 to the Sharks... both really mattered, because in the first game, they showed the weaknesses in the Stormers defence and game-plan, but your coaches was just to '''dence '' to recognize it....i would suggest you move along, the accident scene has been cleared, but unfortunately the injuries will linger a few years still...

  • phillip.beukes.5 - 2012-08-07 18:09

    Firstly reduce the number of teams playing to 10 or 12, then introduce a 2nd and even a 3rd tier of teams, taken from the Pacific Rim nations, and those teams from NZ, Aus and SA, that is not in the 1st tier. This will greatly reduce the number of first class games played, and in so doing help to preserve the players... but it will also help to blood new players from not only the smaller nations, but also from the top nations. In the long run i think it will also help coutry's like Samoa, Fiji and Tonga, to hang onto their good players, in stead of them moving to NZ or Aus, due to lack of money. It will also help Japan to cultivate their own teams, in stead of using foreign players.

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-08-07 18:12

      Phillip we would rack up injuries against Samoa and Tonga as they play the Player and not the Ball... Happens in almost every WC...

      robi.thenga - 2012-08-07 19:18

      @chaplinncharlie, ain't u suppose to play the player with the ball in rugby, or u talking about soccer???

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-08-07 19:23

      Robi there is a BIG difference in Playing the Ball and Playing the Player... both of these consist a Player and a Ball...

      cavin.snyman - 2012-08-07 19:28

      I would start 2 leagues consisting of 12 teams each. League 1 for the best in the world. League 2 for the rest to play catch up. After each season the bottom team of league 1 plays the top of league 2 in a play-off. Bottom of league 2 can then be challenged by any other countries provincial team. No conference, 4 top teams in each league to play-off for top honours. That way no country will be gaurenteed of a home semi or final. You have 24 of the worlds best provincial teams playing against one another and your season is shortened to give the players more time to rest and for each countries home competition to run it's course. This will increase the revenue.

  • victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-07 18:09

    Who cares about Union, too much crotch sniffing and let's not forget that damned Refs; whistle. Since Sunny crossed to Union He along with the Mighty ALL BLACKS has won every medal worthy in the sport. Now he's back to league, No more Union and the Ref. Keep the game simple, almost every decision can be called either way especially at the breakdown...Just no consistency cos' the rules are just too confusing and constantly changing. Come over and watch the NRL, Now here's a Mans' game. The hits and tackles are unbelievable. It seems one has to watch an entire season of Super-Rugby to equal the excitement of watching one Origin game. Sunny just get back into the game at those scaly chukes and come back home . We the Warriors need you to get the NRL title. Twice to the last game and fall short. Please come Home.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-08-07 18:15

      Feeling lonesome b'cause you are watching the NRL on your own . . .

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-07 18:33

      heheheheheee......I'm at Ericsson stadium with the Bros mate.

      thabiso.letlhabane - 2012-08-07 18:41

      who cares abt da rugby league

      caleb.drumm.1 - 2012-08-09 03:38

      heheCommon Victor, the Warriors have been as bad as the blues this season. Love watching the NRL but with only one kiwi team in it, and performing poorly, the interest level wanes. I dont think Sonny will further his career much more in league, apart from playing in the Kiwi league team, he wont have the same quality of players around him to create him gaps or feed off him like the quality players that were in the Chiefs or Blacks this year. I believe he can showcase his skills better in union.

      leigh.mapu - 2012-08-09 13:59

      League is a game for simpletons, played primarily by a country full of simpletons.

  • Eddie.Minora - 2012-08-07 18:51

    withdraw from SANZAR, start a competition in our country with all our talented Unions & Players, involve 2 international players in each province & make it bigger than Superugby, in place of the Vodacom/Lions Cup season, with the oldest tournament the Currie Cup in the last season. At least all the politics involved in our unions will be something of the future & other provinces that never futured can have a fare chance.

      phillip.beukes.5 - 2012-08-08 07:18

      We did that during the isolation years... it did not turn out so well...

      caleb.drumm.1 - 2012-08-09 03:40

      That will never work, you need to be playing against the best in order to keep up with them.

  • Sammy Willow - 2012-08-07 20:14

    what about having the same format as the champions league soccer where all teams are drawn into a catorory and have home and away games

  • schalk.vandermerwe.549 - 2012-08-07 20:15

    Oh dear, they've let the idiot out again!, hey Harold are you better or do you still suffer from idiot syndrome, of staan jou gesig maar so!, you and moron chaplin must be the same person!? Never heard so much drivel in all my years!

  • kobus.muller - 2012-08-07 21:05

    One thing i would have loved to see/know is. How would the Stormers defense have fared against the Chiefs backline? This is a serious flaw in this format.

  • terence.barnard.1 - 2012-08-07 23:05

    is their something in this article that i did not see, because none of the coments you people made has got to do anything with the article! join mxit or that nonsense so you can talk about small minded things

      phillip.beukes.5 - 2012-08-08 07:17

      So not to feel left out, you also made a comment that has nothing to do with the article.... welcome to the club, you will find your distorted view somewhere in that stack there in the corner....

  • cave.dweller2 - 2012-08-08 05:11

    See a lot of idiotic Bulls supporters here. Ain't there a rule at Planet Rugby about trolling on other sites?

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-08-08 10:52

    Seriously? How on earth are players supposed to perform? It's toooo much!

  • kevin.vandyk.18 - 2012-08-08 16:26

    16 teams - 2 conferences of 8 based on where you finished the year before. Top 4 from each conference go into quarter finals against teams from the other conference. Keeps it exciting to the end because a team at the bottom will have something to play for to remain out of the stronger conference the following or to be ranked higher.

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