S15: Still hope for SA final

2012-06-27 12:06

Cape Town – While still having to maintain a key focus on their own fortunes, the Stormers will be anxiously monitoring three red-letter New Zealand Super Rugby derbies in the coming weeks – all featuring the Chiefs.

This pair remain the two teams likeliest to be in with a good shout at securing the money-spinning home final, with the Waikato side favourites at this point purely in log terms.

The Chiefs currently head the overall pack with 58 points from 13 games, four ahead of their Newlands-based closest rivals who have won as many games (11) but trail in the bonus points department where they are yet to earn even one on a four-try basis.

Few would dispute that the New Zealanders, however, have the tougher ordinary-season run-in: all three of their games are derbies, and against sides similarly jockeying fiercely for playoffs places.

The Chiefs resume their programme after the three-week hiatus on Friday, away to the Highlanders who are fairly long shots now to reach the last six, as they lie eighth overall and have been beaten five times.

But they are not mathematically out of the picture by any means and will throw the kitchen sink at the Chiefs in Dunedin (09:35 SA time).

The Stormers will be hoping that the Highlanders can pull off the minor upset, because if they, themselves, then beat the Lions at home on Saturday evening (17:05) they might well also unseat the Chiefs from their loftiest perch.

It hardly gets easier for the Chiefs next weekend: it is then that they host the ever-formidable Crusaders, who retain an outside chance of topping the NZ conference, before rounding off their itinerary away to the unpredictable Hurricanes.

If it all comes down to the final weekend, starting July 13, to determine who ends top overall (and assuming the Chiefs and Stormers remain the best-placed pair) again the Stormers could have an inside lane – their own last assignment is at Newlands against Aussie relative strugglers the Melbourne Rebels.

In a nutshell, two wins for the Stormers in their last three matches (Lions, Cheetahs, Rebels) and only one for the Chiefs might be enough for the Capetonians to set up their maiden home final in the competition if, of course, they also prevail in a semi.

Just for the record, in last season’s competition the Chiefs lost 23-13 away to the Highlanders, 34-16 at home to the Crusaders, and 29-26 away to the Hurricanes, so any repeat of that sequence would suit the Stormers particularly nicely, thank you.

But it has to be kept in mind that the Chiefs were also not nearly the compelling unit they’ve been so far in 2012 – they ended a humdrum 10th overall last year.

As for the Stormers, they beat the Lions at home 19-16 in 2011, the Cheetahs away 44-34, and did not play the Rebels at Newlands, although in the Melbourne meeting they thumped them 40-3.

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  • MaakdieBulle - 2012-06-27 12:12

    It boggles my mind that some of the stormers keep on raving about the conference cup Wining the conference cup is like kissing your sister after all . But then it struck me , for them hillbillys ,kissing your sister is as normal as farting! For more than 300 years inbreeding was part of their culture, they didn’t know any other way. Because of the brain drain during “The Groot Trek” and various gold and diamond rushes, their choices were limited and they ended up with their sister as a life partner What If there is only brothers in the family? you may ask! Well Cape Town is not the gay capital of Africa for nothing !Blood is thicker than water. It’s an integral part of the Western Cape, Just like choking and the “Platberg” These are the qualities(or lack thereof) that Defines Them.

      cape.maori - 2012-06-27 12:14

      You must be a very lonely and bitter woman in a man's body!

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-06-27 12:31

      Shame, Bitter that you have not managed to win this cup yet? It means you are the best SA team... which means something.

      jason.children - 2012-06-27 12:35

      Actually winning the conference cup is like winning the Curry Cup! It represents being the best team in South Africa during the Super tournament! You should try it sometime.................Oh wait you can only handle competitions with 14 teams in!

      jason.children - 2012-06-27 12:37

      And on a slightly non rugby note, I would much rather be an inbred hick from Cape Town and the WP, the best run province in the country, the only province that can stand up to the ANC. Than an inbred hick from ANCville!.........................Im just saying!

      Jed - 2012-06-27 12:48

      This coming from a Pretoria Dutchman , who cant tell the difference from his sister , mother and wife?

      jean.tredoux.5 - 2012-06-27 12:56

      Some cheek that these bull supporters actually have the nerve the comment here and to bring other teams down especially the stormers when they got their ass kicked twice and one on home ground.

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-06-27 12:57

      Ok Jason, you go tell oom Frik, oom Mannetjies, oom Piet, Oom Boy, Doc, Naas and Uli that the Conference cup is right up there with the Currie cup.

      MaakdieBulle - 2012-06-27 12:58

      Sodra die Stormers begin bekers wen, sal daar meer van ons in die Springbok-span wees,” Jean de Villiers (Beeld) The Conference cup is not a real trophy "Schalk Burger" Coming from 2 Stormer/ wp captains, this must be devastating news for the Hillbilly's from the "platberg"who Believes that the Conference cup is the Holy Grail Of of Rugby

      jean.tredoux.5 - 2012-06-27 13:12

      @maakdiebulle, is jy nou al so suur en pateties dat jy n provinsie, die mense en n BERG afkraak, regtig kom net by want jy maak net jou naam gat!!!

      jason.children - 2012-06-27 13:23

      Obviously it doesnt have the same history as the Currie Cup, but in todays Super Rugby being the best SA team is just as good as being SA's best Province!

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-06-27 13:26

      If that makes you sleep better at night, I'm happy for you.

      MaakdieBulle - 2012-06-27 13:28

      @jean, Don't kill the messenger.

      MaakdieBulle - 2012-06-27 13:32

      @valemj,nope, that is a Western Cape thing, 19 year old man viciously stabbed his father before dragging his mother out of bed to the bushes. There she claims her own flesh and blood raped her repeatedly

      gavin.gill.54 - 2012-06-27 13:32

      You obviously dont have any brains other than the rugby brain you show in your comments, must be sad to base your entire life on the outcome of the Bulls.....idioot!!! (thats Idiot in AFRIKAANS)

      mjvandersandt - 2012-06-27 13:36

      Word wakker en ruik die koffie ou suurgat.

      lourens.vandervyver.798 - 2012-06-27 13:54

      Is jy ernstig? Ons moet praat oor rugby en dis waarmee jy kan opkom. En daars ander wat saam stem met wat jy tik. As jy nie n benul het om rugby te praat nie of tik nie dan dan...wel ek weet nie wat jy in jou spaartyd doen nie!...Jou lekker ding

      John - 2012-06-27 13:58

      Appears that all these geniuses that left for diamonds & gold have a left us with generations of extremely stupid people like ol maakdie & harry. Just a heads up boys - winning the conference is so important because it guarantees you a place in the play-offs. A lot of relatively intelligent people don't understand the format so how the hell are you two idiots expected to understand what winning the conference is all about.

      schalk.j.lubbe - 2012-06-27 14:06

      And yet again you will find more Bulls' supporters commenting here than Stormers supporters. All in denial and secretly supporting the Table topping team from the Cape. Yes the confrence cup is probably not a "real trophy" - But around a month ago before we won the vodacom cup (a cup that you are 2nd most sucessfull in) and you will probably now also say that the vodacom cup is also not a "real" trophy BECAUSE the only real trophy was the trophies the Bulls won in THE PAST (seeing that they didnt win anything last year, wont this season and probably wont win anything next season)...

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-06-27 14:15

      John, home advantage in the playoffs doesn't mean jack, if you don't go on to win the tournament. True story.

      jandreleroux - 2012-06-27 15:32

      On behalf on of all levelheaded bulls I apooligse for this drivel. 1. Winning the Conference Cup is not really such an achiement. Olympic ahtletes do not get medals for winning their heats. 2. Whether Cape Town is the gay ca[pital of Africa has nothing to do with the S15 3. It is true that the Stormers trophy cabinet is "a bit" empty BUT it is also true that barring a series of upsets, implosions and strings of unexpected results they are the SA team that will end first in the SA conference and maybe on the top of the log. Allthough I would rather have the Bulls there, I will gladly support the Stormers if they are playing an OZzie or NZ team! Go St........ uhm I mean South Africa!

      sol.bezerker - 2012-06-27 16:13

      Did we not beat u twice...Doos!

      paul.sdoow - 2012-06-27 17:24

      winning the conference cup guarantees a semi . something the bulls have yet to do as they never won the last year and wow what you know, did they play in the play offs?

      Tom - 2012-06-27 21:07

      classic post maakdiebulle i havent laughed like that since a few hours ago over harolds danie gerber post stormers and capeys, if the shoe fits wear it. no need to get so defensive. just tells us this post hit home. calling pretoria residents dutchmen as an insult when you have distinct dutch roots, is classic conference champions. whoopdeedoo.

      Jaco - 2012-06-28 15:49

      Its really sad that 90% of comments made on these rugby articles are hardly rugby related. Its more insulting of nature and can at times be deemed hate speach. Its the same guys constantly commentating and insulting too. Not even the players hate each other as much as you guys do. The Bulls and Stormers players have allot of respect for each other. But fans like the ones commenting here and throwing insult after insult really leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Im a Stormer. Why? I was born here and I am true to my team. How can you hate me or insult me for that? I have always supported the Bulls when they made the finals. I WILL support any other SA team if they make it, and my team is not there. @Maakdiebulle.... Dude, your comment was unprovoked. Its the first comment on the page and you immediately set a negative tone. Daar was regtig niks opbouend in jou bydrae nie.

  • cape.maori - 2012-06-27 12:12

    Stormers v Crusaders at Crusaders Park in Newlands!

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-06-27 12:21

      The Stormers are going to lose in the semi's, thus no final for them.

      roland.slater.7 - 2012-06-27 12:23

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      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-06-27 12:25

      Harry,where will the Bulls end... by the time that we play the semis there preparation will be in the 2nd week for the Currie Cup.

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-06-27 12:31

      Lionel buddy, you might be right but, at the Bulls we feel that if you don't win the whole thing, it doesn't really matter where you finish on the log or whatever. For us Bulls, it's all or nothing.

      jason.children - 2012-06-27 12:38

      Im guessing nothing!

      roland.slater.7 - 2012-06-27 12:40

      My mother taught me that If I don't have anything nice to say to rather keep quiet...( )

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-06-27 12:41

      @Jason,I 2nd that!!!!!

      Jed - 2012-06-27 12:49

      Harold at least we will be in the Semi's, the useless Bulls wont make it that far.

      harold.lloyd.520 - 2012-06-27 12:57

      My mom said the same thing, Bonzi. Maybe we are brothers.

      roland.slater.7 - 2012-06-27 13:05

      @ Harold et silence was intended for the false maori above, and silence is definitely required from me on that front, so I will continue to ( )

      derrick.dawson - 2012-06-27 13:22


  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-06-27 12:29

    The Stormers need to go for broke and attack fullblown top the overall log and a semi and final at Newlands is there for us.So go on Prooooooooovince boys lets be innovative and play attacking rugby.With only 3 games left we need the maximum of 15 points on offer.

      cape.maori - 2012-06-27 12:31

      Heard you the first time! No need to repeat the drivel you write.

      Stevemins - 2012-06-27 14:11

      The vexatious attention seeker cape.maori at it again

  • grant.butler.104 - 2012-06-27 13:02

    Time to go for broke Stormers....have to chase the bonus points ....finishing top of the overall log will be awesome...Damn I would love Stormers to win this trophy!!

      cape.maori - 2012-06-27 13:04

      Ain't going to happen!

      stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-06-27 13:17

      @cape tik kop, you said the same thing when the Junior Boks played the Junior Silver Ferns recently. Then came the lamest attempt of saving face ever.

      bernard.ingram - 2012-06-27 18:16

      ha ha ha ...bonus points???????

      Tom - 2012-06-27 21:10

      never gonna happen

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-06-27 18:14

    Win the CC first gay Jason, then you can brag.

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