Fleck: Juan better after snub

2012-07-26 22:31

Cape Town - Stormers backline coach Robbie Fleck believes centre Juan de Jongh's omission from the Springbok squad has led to an improvement in his play.

De Jongh was not picked in new Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer's squad for the recent England series, but his franchise coach believes it has spurred him on to become a better player.

Since the resumption of the Super Rugby competition after the winter tours break De Jongh has played three cracking games for the Capetonians. In their last league match against the Rebels he also impressed with two eye-catching tries.

"Juan's been playing a blinder for the last three games. I think the fact the he wasn't involved at the Boks motivated him more. You'll even find him trying a little chip-kick or two to try and get us on the front foot or to relieve pressure," Fleck told Die Burger.

De Jongh will on Saturday come up against his former Stormers team-mate Tim Whitehead from the Sharks, when the two teams meet in the Super Rugby semi-finals at Newlands.

Whitehead has impressed for the Sharks and his duel with De Jongh will be interesting to watch.

"I rate Tim highly for his, vision, passing and the lines he runs," said Fleck, who coached Whitehead when he still played for the University of Cape Town.

The clash at Newlands kicks off at 17:05 on Saturday.


Stormers: 15. Joe Pietersen, 14. Gio Aplon, 13. Juan de Jongh, 12. Jean de Villiers (captain), 11. Bryan Habana, 10. Peter Grant, 9. Dewaldt Duvenage, 8. Deon Fourie, 7. Rynhardt Elstadt, 6. Siya Kolisi, 5. Andries Bekker, 4. Eben Etzebeth, 3. Brok Harris, 2. Tiaan Liebenberg, 1.  Steven Kitshoff

Substitutes: 16. Frans Malherbe, 17. Deon Carstens, 18. De Kock Steenkamp, 19. Don Armand, 20. Louis Schreuder, 21. Burton Francis, 22. Gerhard van den Heever

Sharks: 15 Louis Ludik, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Tim Whitehead, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Keegan Daniel (captain), 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Willem Alberts, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Steven Sykes, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Jacques Botes, 21 Odwa Ndungane, 22 Riaan Viljoen


  • tom.tardis - 2012-07-26 22:41

    i think they mean juan better after snuff

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-26 22:41


      chaplinncharlie - 2012-07-26 22:50

      Fleck that Fleck on your pants is all that Sh@!t ur talking if you where wondering...

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-26 23:05

      The bulls couldn't even make it to the playoffs with 13 boks to their exposal ?? O_o stormers made it with only 3 ??????????? _- Heynecke Meyer wasssssssup with your squad selection ?

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-26 23:23

      @speartackle. I said it previously as well, but I believe Heineken learnt from previous Bok coaches who picked the best team they could first up and got off to a flyer. But it went all downhille from there and within a couple of years the Boks lost everything. So Heineken will do the opposite. He will start off with a lot of Bulls and loose first up, but progressively include more Stormers and ensure the Boks play better and better up untill the WC when the squad will be majority Stormers and then the Boks will win the WC. Pretty clever strategy.

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-26 23:42

      Interesting theory chris, let's hope it's true (except for the loosing part) .. @graemeltd take a chillpil bra

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-27 00:07

      It's a good combination bra !

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-27 00:37

      Lol you're wasting my time man

      blou.johnny - 2012-07-27 01:14

      ..Bulls = Super-cups x3 ...Stormers = Super-losers x11...

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-27 02:05

      @blackandblue.johnny. Sing daai liedjie so veel soos jy kan. Jy het nog net 'n week om hom te sing, dan gaan jou bek stil wees.

      steyts - 2012-07-27 07:00


      steyts - 2012-07-27 07:00

      Graeme I hope you are wrong!!!!

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-27 07:34

      Spear, what's loosing?

      TravieGrif - 2012-07-27 08:51

      Hang on a sec here guys. JdJ is 13. Steyn and WO are 12. WO is not even close to Steyn at this stage, but our challenge is getting a 13 for the future. Jordaan is skill, and I also rate Eberson. JdJ has great pace and a wicked step, but I am not convinced about his decision making. I would like to see him get a chance outside Frans Steyn to see how they go, but that won't happen until we have a new Bok captain, at I am not sure if there are any out -and-out leaders who are first choice players that are sticking their hands up. I don't see JJ in the Bok mix to be honest. Not at that level yet.

  • eugene.duplessis.7 - 2012-07-26 22:42

    I am just glad the bulls are out ;-)

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-07-26 22:51

      Don't worry come Saturday then the Stormers would be out as well...

      blou.johnny - 2012-07-27 01:07 Super-cups... Currie-cups... years... ...and counting... ....he he he he...!

      steyts - 2012-07-27 07:02

      Hoeveel lion lager cups het julle bulle??? O ja dis reg niemand weet nie!! Want niemand gee om oor toernooie wat nie meer bestaan nie!! Daai een super beker in julle kabinet tel vir f*****l sedert dit nie meer op die spel is nie...

      maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-27 07:31

      @steyt, nie 1 nie, maar 3 ! 16 Years and Counting 1

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-07-27 20:45

      @maakdiebulle.almalbokke now you can count doesn't mean that you have any "cultivate"? (your word not mine)

  • spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-26 22:53

    He's a obvious choice for the rugby championship.

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-07-26 23:05

      Spear he doesn't like people who dances like person who is standing on a hot roof..after they score a try...

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-26 23:15

      Not a fan of his dancing, but there's nothing wrong with his rugby..

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-26 23:25

      @chaplincharlie. But he likes those "outjies" that stand in front of the mirror at half time to check if every bleach-blonde hair is still in it's place (Wynand Olivier comes to mind).

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-27 00:19

      The difference though Greame. Juan de Jongh can score a try from anywhere on the field. WO can catch a ball and fall forward over the goal line. JdJ can tackle too. JdJ looks good on the field. WO thinks he looks good in front of the mirror. JdJ is not yet in the Bok group because Heineken does not want to look too good too soon. WO has had his first good game for the Boks. How many years has he been part of the set-up now?

      blou.johnny - 2012-07-27 01:20

      ... way too small for international rugby.... .....midget....

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-27 02:07

      @greame. Agreed, Steyn is better than JdJ. But WO as back-up? No way.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-27 07:22

      JDJ can score from anywhere on the field...against the rebels. WO even scored against the Stormers. See the difference? JDJ can't dance, WO is staying alive. WO has hair, JDJ has, well yes. That kind of statement will get u banned from the olympics But to me, quote of the week Another point though, that try wo (who I really don't like much) scored against the saders at the end of the game. JFK the midget would have been bundled into touch. Wo might have had to fall over the line but he needed some muscle. Jdj would have been picked up and thrown into touch so he can't in fact score from anywhere. Coupled with the fact 60% of his career tries in super rugby have come this season, 3 out of his massive tally of 5 over 3 seasons. Well like the hair comparison with is what it is

  • john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-27 02:59

    he's progressed to kuk sleg from totally useless .

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-27 05:29

      @randomdude. Why are you mentioning Wynand Olivier on an article about Juan de Jongh?

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-27 06:38

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-27 07:01

      Do you honestly expect me to go and copy and paste that link and watch whatever it takes me to. Why don't you just tell me something originally?

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-27 07:03

      Yes I honestly did

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-27 07:23

      Jpg is a picture file, u look at pictures U don't watch them

  • jed.vonallemann - 2012-07-27 06:43

    Why are the Blue Bulls supporters still here? The I cant make a Semi club can come back in 2013. Let's not forget Bull's are the only team to lose every game in a Super Rugby season. LOL they should be replaced by the Kings. And Morne Steyn is KUK hahahahahahahaha.

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-27 06:48

      Vallem,you also forgot that they are also the only Super rugby champions to have lost to the Kings as well hahahahahaa

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-27 07:14

      same reason you're $uck1ng air

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-27 07:26

      Over his head again random, too cryptic. Don't u ever learn, with his level of stupidity the only solution begins with an s and ends in jambok

      maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-27 07:35

      vallemj always finds himself lost in thought; it's unfamiliar territory.

      jed.vonallemann - 2012-07-27 08:05

      It's amazing they still posting comments. So what are the Inbred's in Pretoria watching this weekend?

      maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-27 08:18

      Gonna watch the Sharks,mortify the hillbillies

      jed.vonallemann - 2012-07-27 08:22

      Ja, I remember you saying that about the Bull's, Stormer's game. Can you remember that result?

      tertius.coetzer.7 - 2012-07-27 08:46

      the bulls are also the only team in super rugby history to (as defending champions) fall out before the play offs.

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-27 09:14

      wow tertius you sure told us ! moron

  • jacques.l.roux.3 - 2012-07-27 06:48

    Net soos die stof op die Bulls se super cups le, net so is hulle legends en span History. Hoping for a good game come Saterday. Ha ha Meyer Bosman and Tim Whitehead, really? GO STORMERS!

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-27 07:53


      jacques.l.roux.3 - 2012-07-27 17:28

      Thanks Tim

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-27 18:32


  • maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-27 07:29

    What do you do for a drowning Stormers Rugby player? Nothing. You could drag him to the top but he will choke anyway

      maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-27 07:38

      Why do people tend to hate Stormer Rugby fans on sight? Because it saves time.

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-27 08:08

      Epic Fail !

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-07-27 20:47

      @Maak... still not "cultivated"

  • heinrich.vanjaarsveld.52 - 2012-07-27 07:29

    Bye bye stormers bye bye stormers see u next year and then its going to be again bye bye stormers all over again

      richard.gee.792 - 2012-07-27 15:13

      Listen here ! You can only comment if your team is in semi's ! Oh wait , meisie kind has been on the beach the whole season ! I realise now that it's not the blue bulls that I hate but u stupid blue bull fans !

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-28 13:48

      listen here you're nobody so you don;t get to tell ppl what they can and cannot do

  • toby.vermaak - 2012-07-27 07:37


  • hvanderlinde - 2012-07-27 08:12

    I have always rated de jongh very highly. He's got a wicked step. This is what he did for the Stormers in the semi against the tahs wonder what he'll get up to in this semi?

      hvanderlinde - 2012-07-27 08:14

      And you'll NEVER EVER EVER see meisiekind scoring a try like that!!

      maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-27 09:27

      You'll NEVER EVER EVER see de jong wining a trophy

      hvanderlinde - 2012-07-27 10:01

      Only time will te mdbab

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-07-27 20:49

      @maak "wining" ha ha now who is at the papsak?

  • shuabe.slamdien.7 - 2012-07-27 08:33

    Maak julle messe skerp ons gaan haai biltong vriet en shark fin sop syp

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-07-27 08:41

      Ek mis nogals n stukkie bees biltong, maar sharkie biltong sal ook doen vir diè naweek !

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