Grant to provide relief?

2011-06-13 07:10

Stephen Nell

Cape Town – Peter Grant has played only one rugby game the past two months and is probably short on match-fitness, but Stormers supporters will still breathe a sigh of relief at the news of his expected return for Saturday’s Vodacom Super Rugby match against the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein.

“It seems you can’t escape injury if you’re a Stormers flyhalf. Kurt Coleman played the last 15 minutes of the first half with an ankle injury.

Fortunately Peter Grant will be fit this week,” said Stormers coach Allister Coetzee, who was speaking after the 16-19 defeat to the Bulls.

“I wanted to get Dewaldt Duvenage on the field earlier, but he was covering scrumhalf and flyhalf off the bench and it was tough to make that change earlier.”

Thanks to the bonus point they collected in the Newlands game the Stormers are virtually assured of winning the South African conference.

Even if they lose to the Cheetahs without registering a bonus point and the Bulls get five points against the Sharks, the chances are still good that the Stormers’ superior points difference will carry them through. The Sharks cannot overtake the Stormers.

If the Stormers beat the Cheetahs, the Cape side will definitely finish second on the overall log and advance straight through to the semi-finals, thereby getting an invaluable bye.

There is still an outside chance that the Stormers can top the overall log – if they beat the Cheetahs and the Reds slump to a bad enough defeat against the Chiefs in Hamilton on Saturday.

By the time kick-off arrives on Saturday night, the Stormers will know exactly what they need to do. However, it simply boils down to them having to get on the winning track.

“We have to beat the Cheetahs. It’s as simple as that,” said Stormers captain Schalk Burger.

“It definitely won’t be easy, but we have done it before. We’ll have to play better than we did against the Bulls.”

Coetzee was so disappointed after his team’s defeat that he labelled the “72 minutes” prior to the Stormers’ fight back the “worst performance of the season”.

That may be overstating it a little, especially considering that the Stormers have for the past two months only been able to call on Grant once – against the Chiefs – and his understudies have also picked up injuries.

However, it’s a fact that the Stormers’ game was not up to scratch in critical areas against the Bulls.

“Our set phases, especially the lineouts, were poor. I also think individual errors cost us. All the Bulls’ points were scored off our mistakes,” said Coetzee.

“We looked dangerous when we carried the ball through phases in general play. But you can’t just rely on kick-receives and turnovers. You have to be able to use the lineout as attacking platform.

“If we could just have played like we did for the last 8 minutes for the entire game, the scoreboard would have looked different. But I think the Bulls deserve credit. They know how to grind out a win and used their chances.”


  • BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 07:13

    Who is Grant? is his real name social?

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 07:48

      He is the man who single handedly destroyed your Blue Bulls team earlier in the competition at Moftus Lersfeldt. Do you still remember that afternoon in March, when Habana out stripped Basson and scored a try? Let us remember ALL the good things happening in the game, don't be selective. The Sharks by 25+ and the Stormers by 15+. Go Coastal Boys, Go!!!!!

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 08:25

      Ag nee WP dis maandag ons weet jy het baie seergekry die naweek... Los nou die papsak en gaan soek werk...

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 09:37

      WP BEFONK as you always say"its history,stop living in the past"

      GraemeBB - 2011-06-13 10:52

      Grant is the last hope for the Stormers. They cant take the loss, and I am already over the victory. It is time to focus on the Sharks - they will be giving it their all this weekend. I dont believe that they can win this one, but I wont write them off!!

      Kaapie - 2011-06-13 11:14

      One thing about the Bulls supporters is that thay thing the S15 title is won already.. by the Bulls.. Dont forget Bulls still ahve to travel more than likely for the semi.. and one of the permutations is the Saders.. not a relishing thought at all.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 11:22

      Kaapie ,is jy disleksies of net pleinweg ongeletterd? thay- they ,thing-think, ahve-have ,mmmmm nes ek gedink het net onnosel

      GraemeBB - 2011-06-13 12:08

      @Kaapie - you and your buddies have been thinking the same thing about the Stormers since you beat us at Loftus. So, how does it feel to get shagged at Newlands by the Bulls - hahahaha. This has made my season. If we dont win the S15, it is still the best thing that has happened all year!! I had to take alot of K@K from the Stormers all season, and now the shoe is on the other foot. The only difference is that I respect the Stormers, but guys like you only respect your own team. Take it mate.

      CliffB - 2011-06-13 15:46

      GraemeBB : Hi , don't wanna look for crap with you , but you say respect the Stormers - man , then I dont want your disrespect , I will proberbly slit my wrists !!!

  • Northern Stormer - 2011-06-13 07:18

    Jammer hy is nou eers beskikbaar - Hy beteken dieselfde vir die Stormers as wat steyn en Lambie vir die Bulls en Sharks beteken. Jy kan met n tweedekeuse skrumskakel speel maar nie op losskakel nie. Hopelik is dit die inspuiting wat die Stormers nodig het om wakker te skrik want die Cheetahs gaan nie maklik wees nie !!!!!

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 08:25

      Hy beteken dieselfde maar is nie in dieselfde klas as bogenoemde nie...

      vdwjasper - 2011-06-13 08:52

      Dit was die tweede keuse scrummie wat ons die game gekos het - nie soseer die loskakel probleem nie.

      jontheb - 2011-06-13 09:24

      Frikkie - you're right. He isn't in the same class as Steyn and Lambie - He's way better than either of them!!!

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 09:46

      @Jonplep Hahaha en dan wonder julle hoekom is julle bekerloos?

      Skeletor1 - 2011-06-13 10:46

      Wel as hul Januarie speel het hul, hul tweede keuse skrumskakel en dan gaan hul weer verloor want ek se nog steeds di Januarie wat Saterdag die probleem was.

      Oukoos - 2011-06-13 11:53

      @vdwjasper, blameer Coetzee. As Coetzee by hierdie tyd nog nie weet dat Januarie se tyd verby is nie, is hy nie 'n afrigter se gat nie. Coetzee is dus of 'n dom afrigter of Januarie het een of ander houvas op hom.

      Oukoos - 2011-06-13 11:54

      En voor ek vergeet, baie geluk aan die Bulls. Julle was die beste span en het verdien om te wen

  • gooinat - 2011-06-13 07:26

    Congrats to the Bulls Saturday....................

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 07:27

      uh,kannie wees nie!

      Maarten - 2011-06-13 07:31

      Hi gooinat. We Bulls supporters KNOW how you feel this morning. We will be cheering you guys again from this weekend, so good luck!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 07:43

      Maarten you are correct ,GO CHEETAHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 07:52

      Maarten, het jy nie lekker geslaap nie?

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 08:26

      Dankie gooinat!!

      watalife - 2011-06-13 09:12

      Well done Bulls on your win.The Bulls out played the Stormers in all aspects of the game and NO excuse. Not the result i wanted but i will have to live with it.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 09:40

      Wattie,Friday you said Bulls will be thrashed by 20 ,sorry i will not let you get off that lightly.Matfield is still waiting for his beating from Elsie,Wynand is stiil waiting for the dodle J,s to run through and past him,and Basson are still waiting for Habana to make him look overrated

      watalife - 2011-06-13 10:05

      @BLOODY AGENT... You should not drink so much over the weekend and then confuse me with others. I said the Stormers will win and yes they were beaten by the better team on the day.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 11:23

      Watie ,you said it "The Stormers will win"so where is the confusion?

      watalife - 2011-06-13 12:10

      @Dom Bloody Agent... Yes I did say they will win but i never said they will win by 20, its not that difficult to understand boet.

      GraemeBB - 2011-06-13 12:10

      @watalife - thank you - you are right! No excusses! It is soooooo great to have blue blood!

      watalife - 2011-06-13 13:50

      @GraemeBB Pleasure mate, Its hurting to see them go into self destruct mode after all the hard work, this might sound a bit harsh but its hurting. Coleman should have been taken off in the 13th minute when he started to wobble with a leg problem, The lineouts were an abosolute disgrace and very shoddy defence around the ruck's&mauls.They must pick themselves up very quickly or they might find themselves without another **cken trophy, but hey they are still my team and i will support them till the bitter end. Good luck against the Sharks and I will not predict another **cken game...

  • Marx - 2011-06-13 07:29

    How arrogant, now suddenly it was the worst 72min. of the season. What? The Bulls put so much pressure on them and the Stormers applied the same pressure to the Bulls. There was so many penalties against the Bulls for "not rolling away" or as the ref pointed out, you are rolling to the wrong side, hahahaha, how can a player roll through or over others player to get to his side of the ruck?? This is only one of many incidents. Burger is behaving like a 5 year old on the field and they keep telling the ref what and how to blow the game.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 07:44

      Maak die Bulle almal Bokke, STORMERS = CHOKERS 10Years and counting

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 07:48

      @Marx - he has learnt from the best in the business, Matfield and Du Preez. They should be honoured he is emulating them? Well done on your win Marx. No complaints from me, and I was here yesterday.....pity you could only get to the internet this morning, but go and read what I said.

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 07:49

      What Pressure? We lost against ourselves, silly mistakes etc.. Worry about this weekend, the Sharks by 25+!!!!!!

      Corrie - 2011-06-13 08:24

      @WPBEFONK....OHHHHH SH%$ you and your predictions again!!!!!Then the Bulls won't have a problem you should actually predict the Bulls are going to win then we might loose....face it you are not good with that....hahahahaha...Your "Stormers lost against themself" comment are turning into a lost against the Bulls my friend I know it's hard to digest but come on you use to it....

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 08:28

      Wp ek sal graag wil sien wie jy gaan blameer na die semi...

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 09:38

      @Frikkie, ons praat eers na die FINAAL. So ek gaan niemand blame na die semi's. Jy moet eerder worry oor die Currie Cup, want dit is julle VOORLAND!!!!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 09:41

      WP befonk ,rather not predict anything ,as the outcome Saterday proved,Stormers by 25 hahahahah

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 09:55

      WPBEKONK,Ek dag die Curriebeker is al die spanne se voorland na die Super Trophy?,of gaan julle ook saam met die Kings oorsee speel?

      thumper - 2011-06-13 10:19

      Bottom line is both teams were crap on the day. Maybe it was the pressure of the game? The problem is that they both better improve if they want to play in and have a chance of winning the final.

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 10:39

      @WP nee ons moet eers die werledbeker gaan wen...

  • Maarten - 2011-06-13 07:30

    Your problem is NOT behind the Scrum. Your problem is at 1 & 3! This is where the Bulls hurt you guys this weekend. You where lucky, all it is going to take is an impartial referee and he is going to KILL you guys come scrum time! Every Scrum in the second half was a potential penalty against you guys. You e seriously need to buy Kaplan a nice new Merc for that bonus point.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 07:46

      With Kaplans help the Stormers still did not crack it,maybe next time get the Plonker ,he does it more openly(cheating), Bulls rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!STORMERS=CHOKERS 10 Years and counting

      Disbelieve - 2011-06-13 08:13

      and the bulls keep scrumming upward. You didn't see that they got penalized for that. Just shut up and enjoy the victory while it lasts.

      Maarten - 2011-06-13 10:37

      @disbelieve, maybe thatnis the only way to keep Harris and Blaauw up in the scrums? Come on dude, don't be stupid. Your boys where given lessons in scrumming. The ARE the weakest link.

      Kaapie - 2011-06-13 11:17

      As i said in a previous post.. 1 & 3 and Cj has not made any impression whatsoever.. We need props who firstly scrum well.. Our lineouts were dismal, but then again the Bulls didnt really impress here either. And ricki fumbled soooo much.. If I was the Flyhalf I walk up to him and smack him about the ears..

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 11:25

      The Bulls did not impress at Line outs? Kaapie what the hell are you smoking?

      molefeP - 2011-06-13 17:51

      Strange how we fans can see this, but the Stormers management refuse to! Young Kirstoff is a great prospect, but the man needs some support!

  • rugby_guru - 2011-06-13 07:43

    Good game bulls, close game, again, super star mullet boi... that oke has for 2 games now, caused you to win and get your bonus point, him alone...

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 07:53

      Mullet boy? You talking about Vermeulen or Bekker?

      Disbelieve - 2011-06-13 08:14

      Hougard. The laaitie from Piketberg.... Need the Capie's much?

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 08:17

      I apologise Disbelieve. I should have known better. Bekker and Vermeulen have never helped any team to win or get a bonus point.

      vdwjasper - 2011-06-13 08:55

      Francois Hougaard is van Robertson. Derek Hougaard is van Piketberg. Maar ja, beide is Kapenaars.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 09:44

      Lloyd - Bekker scored the try which gave us a bonus point on Saturday. Remember that moment?

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 09:56

      SAFFA I saw a different game where the ref scored the try

      Hein - 2011-06-13 10:48

      @ Saffa-Cat - Cabous van der Westhuizen se ouma sou ook daai drie kon druk want die Bulle het die drie aan julle geskenk in antwoord op die skeidsregter se versoek.

      CliffB - 2011-06-13 15:50

      Hein : F%&*ing klomp blou bul idioote ( Uitsondering van n paar - hulle weet wir hulle is ) is so pateties , nou wil jy se Kaplan het die drie ge werk , JMSP !!!!

      molefeP - 2011-06-13 17:50

      Lol@Cliffie! Dude, that vein throbbing on your forehead looks dangerous! Don't le tthe fools get to you bro.

  • WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 07:46

    Looking forward to have you back in the team Peter. Allistair please leave Ricky and Kurt in Cape Town. Stormers by 15+

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 08:30

      Ek dog Kurt maak musiek?

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 08:40

      Frik, ek dink daai Kurt is n beter speler as Coleslaw.

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 09:41

      Frikkie = Langtande en Ace Venture = LLOYD

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 10:01

      BASLSAK you proud of yourself? It was never a secret.

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 10:07

      Okay, so Ace Ventura is LLOYD?? Want dit is net LLOYD wat weet, dat ek voorheen BALSAK was..

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 10:31

      Ja BALSAK, nou weet almal.

      Hein - 2011-06-13 10:50

      Almal weet dit en jy kom van De Aar af

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-13 11:45

      @LLOYD- Dankie nou weet ek met wie praat ek!!! @Hein - Jy's reg ek is 'n Noord-Kaapenaar in murg en bloed en ek is van De Aar!!!!!!!

      The Goose - 2011-06-13 15:38

      WPBEFONK jy kon dit nogal uitgefigure het.Lloyd christmas en Ace Ventura is altwee karakter name vir Jim Carrey..Nie seker of Jim Carrey n blou bul is nie.Mense het selfs gedink ek was Lloyd op 'n tyd.Kom lloyd give more riddles...The Joker would be a great avatar!

      CliffB - 2011-06-13 15:52

      Frikkie: Net n onnosele Blou Bul sal dink dat Kurt Cobain musiek kon maak , beste ding wat hy gedoen het was om die Haelgeweer se sneller te trek !!!

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 07:46

    Morning all. To those who missed my congrats Bulls yesterday, I say it again, congrats. Read yesterdays posting if you want more simpering. Thoughts to all those in Christchurch AGAIN, two aftershocks there registering, 5.5 and 6. Not sure about any deaths yet, but the city is reeling once again. Best wishes to Chch. Bloody terrible news :( Peter Grant is fit? I shall believe it when I see it. That said, not even Peter Grant would have coped with Ricky's woeful service on Saturday - sad but true. Watching the game again, I realised that Dewald Duvenage has benefitted from all these injuries - the oke is INVALUABLE (he was playing 9 and 10 simultaneously at stages in the 2nd half) His value as a Ruan Pienaar type player for the WPRFU and maybe for the Boks in the future has suddenly been brought to the fore....(would never have happened without all the injuries...) Go Dewald!!!!!!! My final comment on Pierre Spies for the season - as I know the Pierre fans will never be swayed - sigh: Watching the game again, it was clear Gary Botha and Danie Rossouw were tasked with keeping Duane Vermeulen BUSY and away from Pierre, and it worked. The truth is, when a team has to MAKE PLANS like that to protect a flyhalf, its ok. When it's done to protect an 8th man - it's sad. It will not work on the International stage gents-fact. My praise the Bulls comment for the day" The Bulls do some great Pilates warmups pre-game".

      gooinat - 2011-06-13 07:54

      Morning Saffa,yip,sad about the aftershocks at Christchurch,hope no lives have been lost!!!!!!!Saturdays game,oh boy,don't know where to begin but one thing what irritates me is before the game started the Stormers were warming up in front of us on the Grand Stand,Deon Fourie was throwing lineout balls to Duane of the 7 I counted 5 went over he's head,I said to my mate next to me,I hope this does not happen in the game and sh@t there it does happen for Hougaard to go and score.Luckily theres still hope!!!!!!!!Hope the Chiefs can beat the Reds and we beat the Cheetahs!!!!!!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 08:03

      @Gooinat - I had Spies warming up in front of me. He came out just after Steyn, and he warmed up MORE than any other player on the field (both teams). Cr@p knows what for - cos it does nothing? Sheez our lineouts were limp.

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 08:08

      SAFFA, did Duane play? I didn't see him. Not once.

      Corrie - 2011-06-13 08:29

      @SAFFA hahaha let's face it...I know you might not admit it but Spies did more than your Duane Vermeulen that guy is so pathetic it's hard to belief and your concern is Spies you should be worrying about Duane!!!!What a joke if he can't do his task then he starts playing dirty..hahaha

      The Goose - 2011-06-13 08:31

      Lloyd smile nou lekker ne! Die Sharks gaan die bulle moeg speel...Well done Bulls..Hopelik is die laaste keer wat ek julle gelukwens.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 08:32

      @Lloyd: Duane is the one making tackles, driving forwards back and assisting on the ground amongst the throng of bodies on the field - so it's not that hard to miss him. Spies is the one standing as far away from all of this as possible, in the backline to be honest....clearly visible with his spotless balck scrumcap and shirt.......I also saw Spies lose the ball twice, when in all honesty he should have been away...It helps little the man is talked up as a "sniping, running 8th man" when he loses the ball (and his supposed sniping/running is what many Spies fans say is his "talent" and why he needs to be utilised correctly...Go figure.

      Corrie - 2011-06-13 08:42

      @SAFFA Well as long as he does not turn to dirty rugby like Duane if things arnt going his way then just about only the Stormers supporters will have a problem with his hahaha your fetish with Spies is so entertaining just love how you envy him hahahahaha facts are facts....YOU LOST TO THE BULLS

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 08:42

      The only thing I saw of Duane was the way he pee'd himself when Gary just looks at him.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 09:25

      @Lloyd - why as Gary tasked with sorting Duane out? Shouldn't Spies have been doing that?

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 09:36

      Duane was too scared to go near the machine, so he decided to try and bully the short kid Gary. We all saw how that turned out.

      Clayton - 2011-06-13 09:55

      Is Ace and Lloyd the same person? @Saffa, Honestly, I think your criticism of Spies is a little unjust. If you spend 80 minutes trying to find faults any rugby player makes, you will always find them. Spies was far from terrible on Saturday, he carried the ball well and tackled well. the bulls may have had a plan to deal with Duane (which worked) that did not involve Spies, but so what. I'm an not praising Spies for his performance on Saturday but I think there was probably 10 players (not all stormers) involved in the game that deserve criticism more than he does.

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 10:02

      Correct Clayton. I couldn't stay away.

      Whoosa - 2011-06-13 10:12

      @ Saffa - You can go on about Duane this and spies that etc etc. Spies had a shocking season thus far, but he totaly outplayed Duane on Sat. Did Duane even play?? Spies was very strong on attack, gaining more yards than Duanne did this whole season. Everytime Spies ran with the ball 2/3 stormers were hanging on him trying to get him to ground which resulted to the lack of stormers at the breakdown hence the bulls dominance on the ground. But ok, lets nog get ahead of ourselfs, he still has to show us some more good performances before he can be called the old spies again. In my opinion, if golden boy Habana can have 3+ seasons to regain form, and we all now he will be selected for the boks again, i can see no reason why spies should be retained at 8 for the boks.

      Whoosa - 2011-06-13 10:14

      Correction: Should "not" be retained at 8 - before all you chumps run away with my mistake and try and tell me what an idiot i am atc...

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 10:21

      @Whoosa and Clayton - Congrats on your win chaps. RE: Spies: I do not want Spies OR Habana anywhere near a Bok team - either of them (Habana's defence is his ONLY saving grace) My main gripe with Spies, is the gripe of many, and it has very little to do with him playing in a Bulls jersey. It has to do with the risks that come with playing him in the World Cup in NZ. Wet, heavy conditions, and a gameplan based on physicality and defence. Spies is NOT that type of player - klaar. Play Danie at 8, Play Alberts at 8, or play Schalk at 8 if Brussow plays flank as Peter de Villiers has said he will do. Believe you me chaps, you Bulls chaps will be JUST as p**d if Spies starts at 8 - end of. And that is my final word on Spies. I won't say another word.

      Clayton - 2011-06-13 10:34

      @ Saffa, as much as I enjoy disagreeing with you, I fear you may be right. In terms of the type of rugby that wins you a world cup, Spies wouldn't be my ideal choice at number 8. I think Danie/Schalke would be my first two picks. However, I do feel Spies has earned his right to go to NZ.

      Whoosa - 2011-06-13 10:44

      His form previous to this weekend has been poor, and based on that i agree with you he does not deserve to play for the boks. BUT, if he can continue the form he showed this weekend, i believe he is the premier 8 (as u ussualy refer to Duane) in the country, wet pitch dry pitch does not matter.BUT, he will have to show us in the remaining few games he has the hunger for the top spot. Altough i am a big Alberts fan, he hasnt been as prominant lately as he was earlier in the season. Johnson by far the best 8 at the moment, but experience wise he lacks. Lets ee what happens this comming weekend, altough spies totaly outplayed Duane over the weekend, still to early to praise him to much, he ow us big time!

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 10:49

      Where's the real SAFFA and what did you do with her?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 10:50

      @Whoosa - Johnson to me is not an option at 8. Johnson has been performing well on the flank. Since he switched to flank, he has been performing like a "superstar". It is the move to flank which has seen Ashley perform - he was "busy" but average at 8. I would still not select him as a Bok starter on either the flank, or at 8 - he has not been consistent enough for extended periods of time. P De Villiers has basically already stated that if he starts with Brussow in the loosies, he will play Schalk at 8. Our loosies will depend on Juan Smith's and Brussow's fitness...and I suppose on who else gets injured. Fact is though: it is not fair on Spies OR on any of his forward team mates to play the man, when as you Bulls chaps say "he is being USED incorrectly".

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 11:08

      @Lloyd - I lost a bet and I trying to be as complimentary as what I can be towards the Bulls....while still getting my point across. Diplomacy 101.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-06-13 11:19

      Hi Saffa, I know you promised to be kind to the Bull's this week but I think you are going a bit over the top :). The Bull's supporters know that their team scraped truth, neither team played particularly well and in the end, they were able to cash in on our errors whereas, we didn't cash in on theirs. Their try was a total cock-up by us and should never have happened whereas, our try was created through the pressure that they eventually could not handle. Yes, there was the usual grunt by the Bull's which we have come to expect from them over the years....but they were not actually making any headway with it. Can you count the amount of times they actually threatened our line? If I can recall, I don't think they ever did! After all is said and done, the Bull's did deserve the win. It wasn't a great game (too many errors) but it was certainly an absorbing game. I am still hoping that we will see them again in the latter stages of the competition (but I am not counting on it!)....I reckon the record will be set straight :)!

      Whoosa - 2011-06-13 11:23

      Spies has not been used incorrectly, hes just been poor, happens to any player every once in a while. schalk is not an 8, hes shown us before. It would be a shame if schalk has to move out of his preffered position to accomodate a player that hardly played rugby this season (Brussouw has been brillaint 2 years ago, but we havnt seen much of him). Schalla has been huge this season, especially the last few weeks, the best 6 in the compo by far. PDv would limit him if he plays him at 8, i believe we have enough other good players to stand in at 8, i would even play old vermeulen if thats what its gonne take to play schalk at 6.

      Count Olaf - 2011-06-13 11:23

      Mike, did you see the scoreboard after the game?

      Marx - 2011-06-13 11:33

      Saffa, so clever, Spies will be the Bok number 8, the Boks won't be going with a Cheetahs game plan to the World Cup. Ashley is playing brilliant rugby in a game plan that suits his game. Poor old Duane won't make the squad, oh cry me a river !!

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-06-13 11:45 case you are not too clever at reading.....I have acknowledged the scoreboard!

      GraemeBB - 2011-06-13 12:21

      Hahahaha - SAFFA and co still on about Spies. Duanne showed again on Saturday that he has zero - that is ZERO X factor, or any other factor. He is good to tackle and fight. He is slower than Januarie, and no one can lift that fat boy in a line-out. This subject is getting sooo freaking old! Shouldnt we rather speak about the centres that just couldnt get past WO and Pretorius, or Bekker that got schooled? Or Habana that got caught by Basson. Speaking of Habana - did you see after Hougie's try? He just wouldnt let go of him, trying to fool the ref that he got his hand under the ball. Habana is making a nana of himself of late.

      CliffB - 2011-06-14 07:25

      "Mike CapeT JY RAAK BIETJIE VERVELIG MET DIE K"K WAT JY SKRYF. Kom bietjie by man jou hoenerhoer

  • Grunk - 2011-06-13 07:50

    Scoring the various pairings in a Boxing format turned into a very interesting exercise as it highlighted the fallacies connected with last week's article regarding Habana and Statistics. What I forecast and the actual result (I will go into the scoring method further down) is as follows: Bekker v Matfield Bekker 5/3 with 2 rounds drawn Result Matfield 5/2 Blaaw v Kruger = Kruger 5/3 with 2 rounds drawn Result Kruger 4/1 Vermeulen v Spies = Knockout by Vermeulen Result Vermeulen 4/3 * Coleman v Steyn = Steyn 6/3 with one round drawn Result Steyn by Knockout JdeV v WO = Draw Result JdeV 3/2 Habana v Basson = Basson 6/3 with 1 Drawn Result Basson 4/3*

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 08:09

      Did Bekker, Blaauw, Vermeulen, de Villiers and Habana play?

      Frikkie - 2011-06-13 08:32

      En dit mense is wat tik aan jou doen...

  • Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 07:51

    He can't even relieve himself.

  • Claude - 2011-06-13 08:06

    He who laughs last laughs the longest

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 08:18

      He who laughs the longest laughs last.

  • CarloV - 2011-06-13 08:15

    Bulls better on the day. Well done with your gutsy performance! Stormers needs to substitute earlier and Andries Bekker need to watch his snobbish attitude towarsds his own players. The big man needs to realise that viewers/supporters picks up on his remarks and body language. Looking forward to a great round of semis and a huge SA home final!

  • Kok - 2011-06-13 08:45

    Strompies badly needed Earl Rose on Saturday. Grant will make no difference. Cheatahs to sink their home semi dreams.

      Cheslyn - 2011-06-13 09:26

      Sadly, yes...Earl would have been a bit better as I think the moment was too big for Coleman, to a point where it felt that the Stormers were playing with fourteen men against the fifteen Bulls players. Then again, it was probably on instruction that Kurt was playing "middle man" and not attacking the no 10 channel. Make no mistake, the Bulls were able to pounce on OUR MISTAKES and got the points they deserved. Congrats to the Bulls, but let this be a wakeup call to the Stormers coahing staff - the Cheetahs are going to be a lot more aggressive than the Bulls. We also need to get positions 1 & 3 sorted and ask the no 2's what the hell happened on Saturday? Peter Grant will only bring stability if we can settle the scrum and put Dewald behind it (sorry Ricky, you had your time). Then the (Springbok) backline we have can function!

      kurtvs - 2011-06-13 21:13


  • MoZaHo - 2011-06-13 09:28

    As a Stormers supporter, I am sad at our loss, but the Bulls deserved the win. They did out play us in every part of the game, and thats why they are the defending champions. I would have liked the stormers to take the win, but mistakes on our side cost us the game. The Bulls will penalize any team that makes that mistake. Hougard (Born in Paarl, Western Cape, btw), proves why the bulls don't miss Fourie. Matfield and the whole line out team knew our game plan, and killed every single lineout we had. So give credit where its due : Well done Bulls. You guys played well, and you beat us on our home ground fair and square. I hope it goes better for the Stormers next week, and that we can retain the 2nd spot on the overall log. Although, its looking pretty tough right now.

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 09:37

      Thanks for the kind words. If Bekker played you guys would've done better in the lineouts.

      Whoosa - 2011-06-13 10:17

      Yes i believe if duane played as well you might have had a chance

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-13 10:50

      And de Villiers, Fourie, Elstadt and Aplon.

  • handogg - 2011-06-13 09:32

    Baie geluk Bulle. Julle het verdien om ons te wen. Ai jarre as Habana ma net daai laaste drie gedruk het was die kaap weer Hollands! :) But alas, it wasn't meant to be. Beste span op die dag het gewen. Hopelik kan ons onself nou optel en gat skoonmaak die laaste paar games. GO STORMERS!!!!

  • BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 09:36

    WPBEFONK?? sorry as you always like to say "thats history stop living in the past"

  • MaestroX - 2011-06-13 10:00

    Hmmm I have my doubts Grant will A) be fit, B) even if fit, I just can't see him playing a blinder in his first game back in ages against a very good Cheetahs side. Also as much as I would love the Sharks to knock the Bulls out just because of the few arrogant pri!cks on these forums, I know they have no chance, the Bulls are too good for a struggling Sharks team! Also despite the likes of "anus wanker" if the Stormers don't win the super 15, as a loyal SA supporter I would rather the Bulls get through as I believe they now have a very real chance of lifting the trophy, even if I have to endure the boasting of the few complete wankers amongst the more humble and gracious bulls supporters! I am still hopeful the Stormers can go the whole way but seriously if we continue to play the likes of Januarie then we don't deserve to win! He is first and foremost a scrum half, the link between the hard working forwards and a hugely talented back line, yet they choose him when he has the worst and slowest pass in the history of the game!!! Throw in 4-5 knock-ons and it's no surprise we lose to a good team like the Bulls! Another question must be asked of the once brilliant Habana, he also cost us points and makes far too many mistakes! As for the Bulls, well done, BMT and another top performance from Victor and Hougaart!! Well done also to the bulk of the Stormers who played their hearts out against a very tough Bulls side. Win or lose, Stormers forever!!

  • G-DOG - 2011-06-13 11:43

    Please correct if I’m wrong!!! BUT wasn’t Super Rugby were est. to join unions in a specific demographic region and to create one team, yet these arrogant so-called "big unions" don't either feel it's necessary OR don't want these so-called minnows to show them how the game has to be played!!! It looks like that it’s only the Cheetahs who is making use of this ‘arrangement’ in SA! I am a Boland-boytjie and I cannot remember even one player of Boland making the match day 22 or even the final squad!! With the past crises that was so evidently for everyone to see, they blatantly overlooked Boland’s players!! I would have certainly would have had a looked into the following players which I believe could make their Squad or even any other teams squad anytime! Janro van Niekerk, Willie le Roux, Elgar Watts, Bolla Conradie, Marnus Hugo to name a few. Most of these men were in the training squad but was subsequently left out due to the more fancied WP players!! Or in this crises they went so far as Griquas! I believe the best will be if this trend continues then rather decrease the teams participating in the Currie Cup to the Big 5 and let the rest fight it out for the scraps in the Vodacom Cup!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-13 12:58

      I agree with you 100%. Twice over.

  • BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 12:20

    Net n vraag weet iemand dalk wat van grootbek Hannes en Sparky geword het?

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-06-13 15:07

      Hey chopper, was al vroeg vroeg hier gewees om julle klomp drolle geluk te wens op 'n ander thread. Gaan soek hom. Maar as jy dit gemis het... Veels geluk liewe 'bloody agent', jou span het gewen! En so by the by, jou bek is baie groter as myne op hierdie forum, maar jy't dalk van sparky gepraat soe ek vergewe jou. En ek is mans genoeg om te herken as ons teen 'n beter span verloor het, kan jy? GELUK BULLS!! Julle klomp moet nou net nie gaan vasval teen die Sharks die naweek nie! ons soek 'n re-match! Sal op loftus wees, daar sal sekerlik nog sitplekke beskikbaar ne?

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 17:09

      Hannes ,gewoonlik is jy die heel dag n voorsanger maar so n bietjie stil sien ek

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-06-14 08:22

      Dis nog seer, sal volgende week hopelik weer bietjie lewe he

  • Grey B - 2011-06-13 12:38

    Phew! What a sigh of relieve. Can you imagine the great team the Stormers are. With all the injuries in critical positions at critical times and we are still 2nd on the log! Stoooommeeeers, WP jou lekka ding.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-13 12:58

      And still no cups(last year you were also second on the log) and we know what the outcome was

      Die Spier - 2011-06-13 21:42

      Please play Grant!!! 100% guaranteed the Stormers will lose in bloem if he plays, the, sorry, THE most useless flyhalf in world rugby, that includes schools rugby

      gnus wakker - 2011-06-14 03:58

      Ag aan al my BlouBul familie, lede van 'n baie gelukkige en suksesvolle familie, die mees susksevolle rugby familie in die land. Al wat ek kan se is ek lag so lekker uit my terminale ileum uit vir die absolute grap van 'n tipiese Stormer ondersteuner. Doen jouself maar die guns en lees wat hierdie retrovirale ge-infekteerde breine hier kwytraak. Kyk al verloor jy die game, jy's steeds die beste want jy't 30 jaar terug mos die goue jare gehad. Al het jy 11 jaar laas enige beker gewen (m.a.w 'n nul uit dertig, 0/30 strike rate), jy's steeds die beste en mees suksesvolle spannetjie want jy het in die 1880's 'n paar ekstra Curriebekers teen Griekwas en OP gewen. Die Bulle is pateties ( wat is 4.5 Curriecups en 3 Super cups en hoeveel Vodacoms nou in die laaste tyd) want hulle almal kom natuurlik van Danville af. En Goodwood, Parow, die groter Kraaifontein etc is natuurlik Beverley Hills en stroom van die klas. En gerieflikheishalwe word die CC vergelyking tussen die Bulls en WP van 1886 af gedoen, nie 1938 toe die Bulls gestig is nie. Wie wil nou appels met appels vergelyk? Loftus is common want hulle suip brandewyn, maar Nuweland wat SY EIE spelers boo, enige ander span van die veld af boo selfs met die opdraf of as hul pale toe skop, en waar jy 48 000 papsakke na die tyd optel is die toppunt van klas in wereldrugby. En die mees algemene 'chirp' 'Watch ons volgende jaar!!! So wat help dit jy redeneer met iemand waarvan die neuron skedes deur metanol so vernietig is????

  • Toetmonster - 2011-06-13 12:51

    Ek wag maar tot Saterdag 17:00 voor ek weer praat...maar gelul blou balle

  • Aabels - 2011-06-13 16:02

    This is for Alastair Coetzee: Your are ruining the Stormers' changes to play in the final by persisting to play an overweight tellytubby behind the scrum. Most of the time he knocked the ball of was looking for his walking stick while someone else was clearing the ball from behind the scrum. Pathetic!!!!

  • Jacques Le Roux - 2011-06-13 17:23

    Duanne and Spies bla bla bla. Lets talk about Wynand Highlight Olivier and Zane sideshow bob...2 of the most over rated players to wear bulls colours and Matfield falling off Jacue Fourie like a vrot vel!hahaha And lets talk about the last seconds of the game....what exactly happend there, because advantage was blown for the stormers and then all of a sudden the final wistle? Shouldnt advantage be played? Julle Bulls sal nerens wees sonder julle SA refs nie. Julle het 80% van die bal en wen met 3 punte? Julle muppets.

      kurtvs - 2011-06-13 21:20

      knock on advantage gewees nie penalty.

  • Die Spier - 2011-06-13 18:39

    PLEASE play Grant, then it's 100% guaranteed you'll lose in Bloem. Grey College 2nd team flyhalf is better by a country mile

  • zim - 2011-06-13 19:01

    Stormers you owe my brother a flat screen plasma TV. He chucked a chair against the TV because of your dismal performance. Please get in touch with him so that he can at least watch the game on Saturday :) . True story

  • Die Spier - 2011-06-13 21:41

    Please play Grant!!! 100% guaranteed the Stormers will lose in bloem if he plays, the, sorry, THE most useless flyhalf in world rugby, that includes schools rugby

      Die Spier - 2011-06-13 21:45

      Hi All, I'm just reminding you once again that MIKE@CAPET said on May 20th and i quote: THE BULLS POSE NO THREAT TO THE STORMERS WHATSOEVER ANYMORE. so it doesn't help we talk and argue or for that matter even play anymore, Nostradamus@CapeT says the cup is already on its way to newlands

  • Die Spier - 2011-06-13 21:44

    Hi All, I'm just reminding you once again that MIKE@CAPET said on May 20th and i quote: THE BULLS POSE NO THREAT TO THE STORMERS WHATSOEVER ANYMORE. so it doesn't help we talk and argue or for that matter even play anymore, Nostradamus@CapeT says the cup is already on its way to newlands

  • CliffB - 2011-06-14 07:23

    Grant Grant asseblief, Grant Cunt ja. Hy gaan nog maak dat ons teen die Cheetahs ook opgeslet word

  • CliffB - 2011-06-14 07:26

    Hi almal Ek ruk so nou en daan bietjie riem in die openbaar, veral as WO op TV is

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