Ollie: Weak excuse Cheetahs!

2012-03-13 22:25

Cape Town - Former Springbok prop Ollie le Roux feels the referee should not be given all the blame after the Cheetahs lost to the Brumbies in their Super Rugby clash in Canberra over the weekend.

The Brumbies won 24-23 after centre Christian Lealiifano kicked a penalty after the hooter had sounded.

Referee Keith Brown awarded a dubious penalty to the home side after he felt the Cheetahs deliberately swayed the scrum.

Brown also punished the Cheetahs on several occasions during the match, especially at the scrums.

His performance has subsequently received some criticism with SANZAR referees boss Lyndon Bray admitting there was a “big imbalance” in the way Brown allowed the Brumbies an advantage in hitting in at the scrums.

But Le Roux told Volksblad the Cheetahs should never have found themselves in those situations.

"Refs do not always understand what happens in the scrums and blow what they see. One should give the referee what he wants," said Le Roux.

Some scribes feel that Brown should have allowed that last scrum to be re-set or even awarded the penalty to the Cheetahs.

"It was one of those decisions which could have gone either way. You will never get a perfect match. The Cheetahs should have realised what Keith's method of approach was and just focused more."

Le Roux felt they should never have struggled with their scrums in the first place, considering the experienced coaching staff they have.

"To now blame the referee afterwards - and to send reports on his performance - is a weak excuse.

"Every year they struggle with their scrum work. It's as if they fall into the same trap every time. It's irritating because it's not like that with the other teams. Why does something like that never happen with a team like the Crusaders? Are they better than us?" said the former Cheetahs and Sharks prop.


  • Patrick Cawood - 2012-03-13 23:12

    Ollie looking for some attention again Didn't realise so many players who played with him hated his guts Have another Spur Burger

      Saffa - 2012-03-14 00:57

      @fake Saffa It's a pitty you don't have internet at home, your well informed unbiased posts go so quiet after you finished your workday. Working a little on the malpractice presentation?! HA HA HA, What a joker

      Sedick - 2012-03-14 21:34

      And, YES Ollie. The Crusaders are better that you....they have won the Super trophy how many times??

  • Staalburger - 2012-03-13 23:40

    Ollie, I think you're missing the point. If you haven't noticed, rugby is starting to turn into an event where you do not play your opponent, but the ref. And THAT, my friend, is unacceptable. Referees who falter should be held accountable. The rules of rugby as it is is quite complicated. Now each team has to know how each ref interprets each rule. What does that say for consistancy and the health of rugby?

      Phil - 2012-03-14 02:18

      Staalburger I don't know at what level you played the game ...or if you ever have ...but the golden rule has always been to play the game according to how the Ref is blowing it. It would be fantastic if the rules were so simple that was possible. But that is not the case.

  • Christo - 2012-03-14 00:00

    Stem volkome saam met Patrick en Staalburger. Ollie soek aandag en Ollie soek om die Cheetahs skrumafrigter te word en Ollie hou nie van Naka nie. Waarom word Ollie aangehaal - hy is 'n groot niks en 'n "never been".

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-14 06:13

      Hy is n OBESE niks en n never been.

  • Phil - 2012-03-14 02:21

    Ollie is RIGHT. It is stupid and meaningless to focus on ONE incident. If you are going to do a job on the Ref it properly and look at ALL of the decisions that he (and the assistants) made during the game. One decision in isolation means stuff-all

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-14 06:14

      Ollie is right about how good Spur burgers are. Nothing else.

      Michael - 2012-03-14 06:28

      They did Phil.. Look at the Bray article. That scrum is still being reviewed, the problem lies at all the others with the bias at the engagement. Those penalties brought them close enough for that scrum to make a difference..

      Phil - 2012-03-14 08:08

      Michael what I am saying is that EVERY decision made by an official in the game has an effect on the outcome. There is nothing in Bray's article to suggest they are looking at everything. Just missing ONE knock-on changes the course of the game completely. It is an absurd situation ...nobody can say with certainty what could have happened if decisions did not go the way they did. The game is over ....the best side won. The Cheetahs squandered a 13 point lead in the last 19 minutes. They weren't good enough. Finish and klaar

      Nemo - 2012-03-14 21:51

      @Phil, Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah .....

  • Roy - 2012-03-14 06:31

    All sour grapes from Ollie. Is he trying for the scrum coaching position?

  • Smell - 2012-03-14 06:43

    What gives you bunch of of geniuses the right to be so abusive to a former Springbok. I bet most of you were not even good enough to wear a second hand Springbok onderbroek. Childish petulants.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-14 07:04

      This fat idiot isn't a Springbok's arse. His 54 tests accumilated to about 3 minutes on the field in total.

  • Wendy - 2012-03-14 07:07

    To me this has nothing to do with Ollie Le Roux, The Cheetahs I believe are not that stupid to sway their scrum right under their poles with 1 minute to go and leading by 2. That is as simple as that and to me the ref should have seen the Brumbies give way. A ref can make or break a game. Don't all the refs blow from the same handbook. Why then are their different interpretations. They surely write an exam or something so all should be consistent. You can also say then that the players are interpretating the game different who is then in the wrong. Obviously not the guys that do not have the whistle.

      Bigrp - 2012-03-14 08:17

      Wendy, I am a ref, and the problem is that as with most laws, the rugby one's are also open to interpretation in certain instances. I do have an issue with the way the ref in this game handled the scrums...he allowed the Brumbies to hit early the whole time, but penalised the Cheetahs for the same thing in the 2nd half. I was taught that if you do interpret a law wrongly, just make sure you interpret it the same for both teams...something which clearly didn't happen in this game.

  • Deon - 2012-03-14 07:25

    as a pnce admirer and supporter of the man - i must a full 180 degree He has so much to say; now that he is out of the fray. Almost attention seeking. Does he really think Os du R is not addressing those matters, well why does he not take itup with Os in his face...cos he knows Os will moer him!! go play squash fat boy and leave the rugby to the know-hows.........!!!

  • peter.britz1 - 2012-03-14 07:33

    Ollie. you are the weak excuse! Byeeeeeee!

  • Schalk - 2012-03-14 07:46

    If Ollie is so good,,, why dont we see him in a coaching job???

  • Poen - 2012-03-14 08:04

    I agree with Ollie and the tirade against him is so typical of South African rugby supporters - now he is the bad guy...! Suddenly they have forgotten what he meant for Springbok - and Free State and Natal - rugby and to them he doesn't know anything about the game. The major problem lies with our South African rugby supporters is that most of them watch games while wearing blinkers...!

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-14 08:33

      What did he mean for Springbok rugby, and Freestate and Natal? Come on, humour us.

  • Gerhard - 2012-03-14 08:08

    It takes guts to play for a team like the Cheetas for there best player depart for bigge pay cheques at other unions and the available players are relatively young, inexperience and not on the same maturity level as the players from the other teams. Although talented they are players for the future and will most probably play their best rugby for another franchise. When Ollie had to guts it out for the Free State and Cheetas he ran away to the Sharks. So Oliie keep your personal fued with Naka to yourself. He is after all the coach of the Cheetas and you hold a nothing position inSA rugby. Rather concentrate on your chickens, maybe you can teach them to scrum while you coach the on referee tactics.

  • Johan - 2012-03-14 08:47

    Can anybody confirm the rumour that Ollie "fat baby" le Roux has started growing a beard yet?

  • Learn - 2012-03-14 08:51

    Interesting why we are blaming the cheetahs for the refs mistakes. If Sanzar did'nt admit that the ref was wrong then all would be ok. For Sanzar to probe and admit that he was wrong means it was gross negligence on part of the ref, and if was a normal corporate business we would have been on a final warning which in effect happened.

      Learn - 2012-03-14 08:52

      business he would...

  • Deon Wessels - 2012-03-14 10:18

    As a cheetah supporter I am sick and tired of beeing the best team on the day, but losing in the final minutes.. I must agree with ollie in saying that they never should have let it happen! The bad ref and useless cheetahs management is two seperate issues.. anyone can argue with me, but since Naka became the coach, Cheetahs rugby got worse every year!

  • stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-03-14 11:33

    Must agree that it's time for Naka to go. He's been with the Cheetahs quite some time, and is not achieving anything.

      Francois - 2012-03-14 13:15

      Hy sal nie volgende jaar daar wees nie; KINGS gaan hulle vervang

  • isak.dippenaar - 2012-03-16 21:08

    Thanks Ollie. Now will the Cheetahs improve. Every year after a Ollie comment his good pal Naka improve his coaching. About time the sponsors ask Naka to be replaced.

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