Mitchell: Give TMO more rights

2012-03-12 18:58

Johannesburg - Lions coach John Mitchell on Monday said he would file a formal complaint against assistant match officials who were involved in his side's Super Rugby match against the Sharks in Durban over the weekend..

He hit out at some of the decisions made by referee Mark Lawrence's assistants, Quinton Immelman, Marc van Zyl and Television Match Official (TMO) Johann Meuwesen in Saturday's game.

"They won't change the result, but clearly [the officials] need to be accountable at this level,” he said.

Mitchell said on Monday he could not see any reason why TMOs could not be granted additional powers.

He felt they should be able to review the build-up to a try rather than only what happens in front of the line.

"I think we should increase the TMO's power to go back from the tryline, back to where play started," he said.

"The law goes back to the point of where play started, which is correct, whether it is a scrum or a lineout."

He said rugby had technology at its disposal and to ask the TMO to review play a few movements back would not slow down the cadence of a match by much.

His call for the International Rugby Board (IRB) to review the powers of the TMO is part of a growing chorus on this issue.

Last week, South African referees' manager André Watson weighed into the debate after the Super Rugby clash between the Cheetahs and Bulls a fortnight ago.

A try by Bulls prop Dean Greyling was awarded despite video evidence of a double movement leading to the try.

While the video evidence suggested it was not a try, the problem lay in the match referee Craig Joubert's question to the TMO, who was coincidentally also Meuwesen.

He asked Meuwesen only if there was any reason not to award the try as he was unaware of the double movement.

Meuwesen could, however, only officiate on the grounding of the ball in that situation and not the earlier indiscretion.

It is believed that if greater powers were to be granted to TMOs it would negate injustices such as these.

Watson told Die Burger he hoped extra powers would be granted to the TMOs and the system could be on trial as early as in this year's Currie Cup competition.


  • goyougoodthing - 2012-03-12 19:20

    The TMO got two calls wrong on Sat, one for and one against, hardly merit to give them more powers!

  • Nico - 2012-03-12 19:25

    I agree, they should also have the TMO review the play before a card is issued for foul play. Many times it looks worse than it is, and a yellow got a big effect on a game!

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-03-12 19:38

    No man.... what if there were about 20 phases... this sounds like a bad loser to me.

  • Bulldozer - 2012-03-12 19:44

    Please revoke Shaun 'you may award the try' Veldmuis's rights. The guy is dumber than a bucket of spit.

      Bootman - 2012-03-12 22:00

      If you took the bucket away, he'd be you.

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 05:19

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Idiot.

  • Lara - 2012-03-12 20:01

    Rugby is becoming so complicated you need an IQ of 150 to understand everything.

      Blou-Daan - 2012-03-12 20:15

      @Lara Ag nee Lara, dis darm nie sooooo erg nie :-)

  • justin.schonegevel - 2012-03-12 20:22

    I think the way cricket is using reviews system. eg allow 1 review per half for yellow cards. plus ref TMO for a try

  • Jack - 2012-03-12 21:00

    Actually watched some AFL (Aussie Rules) this weekend and saw that they're trialing an on-field 3rd umpire with the power to overrule the ref. Maybe rugby needs to follow their example - either that or bring in two additional touch judges like the NFL...

  • Allen - 2012-03-12 21:07

    Rugby is going the way of gridiron and is fast becoming boring because referees have too much influence on the way a game flows, and particularly the outcome. I refer of course that great refereeing one-man-show, the master of the whistle blowers, the great Mr Bryce Lawrence, who systematically screwed up an important match by blatent cheating (putting it down to a "bad day at the office"! The referees think that only they know the rules and the spectators are, en mass, a bunch of idiots. They might be surprised to learn that there are those amongst the paying rugby fans who are very knowledgable and can see when they are stuffing up a good game. The rules of rugby are becoming such that soon there will be a penalty awarded for not kicking off exactly on the line! Rugby is a simple game - let's keep it like that! Get rid of refereeing Prima Donnas - there's no room for them in our game!!

  • ckrohne1 - 2012-03-12 23:36

    Get over it al ready Mitchell. We got the point.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-03-13 06:29


      Bulldozer - 2012-03-13 06:41

      Wat van jy laat oom Bull toe om sy video camera op te set, dan 'excersize ons mekaar se rights'? Net ek en jy...........en as jy miskien n vriendinnetjie het wat saam wil 'rights excersize'.

      Lionel - 2012-03-13 06:50

      hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaa@Dozey,jy is n ander eene........LMGA!!!

  • Kevin - 2012-03-13 08:00

    mitchell must keep quite. he can shout the odds in the Vodacom cup next year

      Louis - 2012-03-13 11:26

      Kevin, waar val jy uit, jee ons praat van Rugby hier boksie

  • hvanderlinde - 2012-03-13 09:59

    I agree, there were two bulls tries that were not tries from what I could see happening in the slow mo's. But because of the format of the question that was asked the TMO was not allowed to address it and the tries were awarded. If that had to happen against my team I'd be furious. Getting calls wrong in the heat of the moment on the field is fine but as soon as you have the opportunity to view it over and over one frame per second or even less, getting something wrong is not acceptable.

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