Kitshoff out of Bulls clash

2012-05-29 07:41

Cape Town - The Stormers have been dealt a massive blow with the news that loosehead prop Steven Kitshoff won't be available for their Super Rugby clash against the Bulls at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday.

According to Die Burger, Kitshoff on Monday joined the SA under-20 squad that will be competing in next week's IRB Junior World Championships in Cape Town.

In terms of the SA Rugby Union's (SARU) latest regulations, the Baby Boks have first call on the player's services but the Stormers were keen for him to play against the Bulls.

The Stormers tried to negotiate the issue with SARU on Monday but their attempts proved unsuccessful.

And Stormers coach Allister Coetzee is understandably upset, especially ahead of a huge derby against their arch-rivals which could determine their playoff fate.

He feels Kitshoff will now miss out on an opportunity to prove himself against a player of senior Springbok calibre.

"Werner Kruger (Bulls tighthead) could possibly play at tighthead for the Springboks. It would have been a good opportunity for him (Kitshoff) to meet him against a player of that quality.

"We've lost a quality player. It's nice to see the young guys prove themselves against the best. Saturday's game is important for us and the Bulls but there's nothing we can do about it. The rule states that he must play for the under-20 team. We accept it as such," said Coetzee.

Prior to this change bu SARU, Coetzee said he and the Baby Boks coach, Dawie Theron, had discussed ways of easing Kitshoff's workload in a way that would benefit both teams.

"The plan was that he would start for us and be managed in a way that would be beneficial for both parties. He would have missed the under-20 team's match against Ireland, but would have played the rest of the tournament.

"If the Baby Boks made the final we would have given him a rest afterwards," said Coetzee.

The Baby Boks play their first match next Monday evening, with the tournament concluding on June 22.

Theron didn't want to comment about his and Coetzee's earlier arrangement.

"I'm here to prepare a team to win the Junior World Cup on home soil with the players SARU has given me.

"The Super Rugby players are now training with us. Steven Kitshoff, Ruan Botha, Pieter-Steph du Toit and Paul Jordaan are all here," said Theron.

Sharks coach John Plumtree was also keen to use centre Jordaan for their clash against the Lions in Johannesburg this weekend.


  • peter.britz1 - 2012-05-29 07:46

    Typical whining AC! He plays guys like Kitshoff, Bekker, Eztebeth into the ground, then wants to squeel when a player has the opportunity to represent his country. What a twat! It's not like the Ginger Ninja is likely to win any trophied with the Breezers this year, but he may well get a Junior World Cup medal!

      Jed - 2012-05-29 08:03

      Check the log!

      Rudolf - 2012-05-29 08:31

      Peter, I could not have said it better myself! vallemj, the log has never seemed to help the stormers come crunch time!

      Jed - 2012-05-29 08:44

      Rudolp, so you a fortune teller then?

      Rudolf - 2012-05-29 08:47

      No, but from your comment it seems that you are! All I am doing is looking at actual past stormers stats in Super Rugby....

      Ray - 2012-05-29 08:50

      I am a Stormers supporter,but rules are rules-you cannot just challenge them when it suits you as any team could be in the same situation.Just a pity that AC doesn't have much backup now,which will be sorely needed against the Bulls.

  • Jack - 2012-05-29 07:56

    Well at least we know the u20 team will have an incredible scrum. Kitshoff held his own quite well against the all Springbok Sharks frontrow (unlike Broken Harris), so I'm quite sure he'll annihilate any opposition. Good on AC for not fighting his inclusion!

  • Maxine - 2012-05-29 07:59

    Think it is setting a bad precedent! Don't rely on youngsters because they will be taken from your squad at key times! Let them play for their provinces and then join up on Sunday- They can bench on Monday.

  • steyts - 2012-05-29 08:10

    This is ridiculous!!! I'm sure he would much rather play for the stormers vs the bull at a full capacity Loftus Versfeld than in front of a very small crowd versus a pathetic Irish age group team... I'm sure that the baby boks without their super rugby players will be more than good enough to beat the Irish!!!! The sharks play against a pathetic lions side so their players won't be missed but they are taking the only prop that can scrum in WP... Dawie Theron obviously thinks nothing of his second choice loosehead!!!!

      Luke - 2012-05-29 11:08

      Playing for your country or playing for against the Bulls, hard decision I'd say. The u/20 side is not that great and playing at home so they need the choose their best 22 for the day. They need to beat England to stand a chance to get to the semi's so may as well try let the team gel from day 1 Give Theron a chance, if you knew what he was dealing with you would

  • Craig - 2012-05-29 08:12

    AC is a joke. To say that he was hoping to play him against Werber Kruger, Springbok calibre. The guy spent Saturday evening playing against the current Springbok front row, what more does he want. I am sorry but its simply a case of Stormers knowing that they will finih 3rd in SA conference and this will be an excuse later. Simply put Stormers dont know what a try line looks like, I mean it took a forward pass to score a try to get a bonus point on Saturday night.

      Robert - 2012-05-29 08:22

      You are an idiot - you seem to forget the try off a very bad knock that got your team a win recently - a few wins less than the Stormers I might add. The Stormers are short of players, period. No loose forwards and a shortage of props - do you expect AC to be happy about it?

      Neil - 2012-05-29 08:28

      Good for you, at least we aknowledge a forward pass, unlike the Pinkies who believe that a pass is forward when any other team scores but not when they do, oh! so are knock on's, remember the Brumbies game? Secondly the Pinkies might score more tries, but concede a lot more than the Stormers. If want to talk rugby then talk rugby not your wishful Pinkies agenda with no substance.

      WernerZA - 2012-05-29 09:37

      If you didn't point that out I would have... Did he not prove himself against the actual boks last week. Rather say that our scrum will go back, even more than it did last Saturday and that is why we need him. ... Or we need him to add some class to our team... Or...

  • Lionel - 2012-05-29 08:28

    Luckily Deon Cartsens who has massive experience will fill his boots....good luck with the Baby Boks Steven

      Jason - 2012-05-29 08:40

      He will have an awesome tournament! Dude there is so much rugby next week its crazy! Go the Baby Boks! Go the Stormers! Go the B........................nah just kidding!

      Lionel - 2012-05-29 08:48

      LOL Jason.....dont get the B supporters to excited now:):)

      Jason - 2012-05-29 08:50

      I almost got carried away with myself! For some reason im a little more confident this week than i was for the "Saarks" game!

      Lionel - 2012-05-29 08:59

      Ja I think last weeks game was a big wake up call and we will lift ourselves for the Bulls game.

      Jason - 2012-05-29 09:07

      Will be nice to have Joe and Siya back!

      Lionel - 2012-05-29 09:13

      After the break Schalk and Duane are back!!!!!

      Acta - 2012-05-29 10:34

      Thanks guys, always nice to read your comments. @Jason, also feeling a bit more confident for some reason. Watched the weekends highlights again, there is no reason why we cannot pull this one through. Go Stormers!!

  • PienkMasjien - 2012-05-29 08:36

    Choking is the stormers art, and they are about to paint their masterpiece!

      PienkMasjien - 2012-05-29 09:09

      Kyk maar na die stormpies se trofee kas,net stof en spinnerakke, verkoop tog die Wit Olifant (ps die vodacom cup is n derderangse toernooi)

      Stirrer - 2012-05-29 09:28

      PienkMasjien (is dit jou naam omdat jou kindertjies tappits is?) - die Vodacom Cup is net derderangs omdat die Bulls dit nie gewen het nie. Die trofeekas op Nuweland het sedert vir die afgelope 2 jaar reeds 'n Conference Cup en 'n Vodacom Cup. Die Bulls se trofeekas? Oeps... leeg...

      PienkMasjien - 2012-05-29 09:45

      Bragging about the conference cup is like Bragging about Premature ejaculation

      Stirrer - 2012-05-29 09:51

      PienkMasjien, I'll have to take your word for that.

      PienkMasjien - 2012-05-29 10:13

      @Stirrer ,Nope, die stormpies is die experts, vir 10jaar wen julle al die Curriebeker/Supertrofee nog voor die finaal gespeel word.

      carlisle.kensley - 2012-05-29 10:37

      pienkmasjien...tell me what is in the bulls trophy cabinet????stop basing your PRIDE on previous glory we in 2012 not 2007 or when ever last you won the super 15......bulls only compete well in super 15, WP / stormers compete well in all tiers vodacom cup, currie cup and super rugby!!

      PienkMasjien - 2012-05-29 11:11

      @carlisle.kensley "WP / stormers compete well in all tiers vodacom cup, currie cup and super rugby!! " whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah

      Prudence - 2012-05-30 09:24

      @pienk-masjien....this weekend is HISTORY IN THE MAKING..... Bulls r going to LOSE ON THEIR OWN TURF, WATCH THIS SPACE!!!!!! STORMERS JOU LEKKER DING !!! STORMERS 4 EVER!!!!

  • Neutedop - 2012-05-29 08:39

    I thought the SA U20 is breeding and exposing new players that can one day fill the boots of current Springboks. I think Kitshoff is way past that exposing - he is a household name in the big league. This is like a playing club rugby. At least I hope he enjoy his time there - sometimes all the serious rugby makes you forget that it should be fun....and let's face it, he is still a 'child'.

      Greg - 2012-05-29 08:52

      I would rather play for the SA U20 than be a squad member of the springboks that does not get play time for the Springboks. Well done to be selected for SA U20.

      Jason - 2012-05-29 08:52

      The other side of the argument is that he gets to represent his country at that age group which will look good on his CV! he deserves it!

      carlisle.kensley - 2012-05-29 10:46

      what pays more being sa u20 starting player or a reserve for senior side tell me, this is his profession!! he may be a "child" (by the way go to the WPHPC in stellenbosch, after a player comes out of that institute he is much much more professional and mature), its his job / career will you take a potential salary cut just to represent a company that will look "good" on your cv but they pay less or will you work for an top tier company as an lower rated employee but the exposure is there????how can you compare u20 to senior springbok level. just him being in the squad for senior level the exposure he will get is more valuable on his CV or career than playing junior rugby. you show me one u20 player that has made senior springbok without playing super rugby and ill show you 40 springboks that have made it through super rugby!!

  • Greg - 2012-05-29 08:50

    Good for Steven. He will be a Spring-baby-bok. He is now so marketable for overseas clubs. SARU better sign him up or he will seek his fortunes elsewhere....

  • Eben - 2012-05-29 08:54

    @ Neil The Pinkies are gonna give the Stormers a hiding this weekend!!

  • Provence - 2012-05-29 09:14

    Thank goodness at least the Stormers now have a reason why their pack of forwards will be pushed around Loftus like a 'draadkar' on Saturday. Now we have an excuse!!! If only we had Kitshof, if only????

      muawiyah.etalla - 2012-06-05 10:20

      An nw ?????? Lol wats ur exuse wÉ stomred away the pink !!!

  • Jody - 2012-05-29 09:17

    This boy is going to become a legend.

  • carlisle.kensley - 2012-05-29 10:31

    to all you bulls supporters we will take you on with what ever we got no excuses with a 5th tier replacement flown in from Canada, with a second rate prop it does not matter our team is great your team was great deal with it, just shows the caliber of players WPRU develops, a 19year old that can stand his own against a supposedly stronger and bigger player!!I wonder what the response would have been if the bulls had a few players taken from there starting line up???o I forgot to mention about half of the bulls development squads are province players....come game time all your speculations and crap talk will mean nothing. if you beat us you beat us well done ill take your hand, your ONLY advantage going into this game is that your scrum will most probably be stronger than ours and you will play to get the penalty.....hulle manne moet hulle hoorings vas hou...ONS STORM SAAM!!!!

      PienkMasjien - 2012-05-29 11:16

      Die papsak en tik laat jou kop raas !

      WernerZA - 2012-05-29 14:32

      ... The scrum will be stronger, the backline will score more, Morne will kick further ... We can go on... Bulle!

  • wanderering.wanderer - 2012-05-29 10:35

    Oh boy I see the excuses already when the Bulls win, it was a watered down game the Steamers are not at full strength.. lmga.

  • Craven - 2012-05-29 10:43

    Mr Coetzee, I realize that you need silverware badly, I understand that you have been underperforming year in and year out. It must be difficult to be so desperate to win something major, but please look after your players properly because they belong to SA as well. It's not the baby boks fault that your back up props are softer than the tellytubbies. Look at the Stormers injury record over the last few years, as a result of greed and desperation you are playing your best players to death. Bekker is shell shocked like a WW1 vet. he just waits in the backline like an old man. Please mr Coetzee these players don't deserve this( believe it or not they have higher aspirations than the Stormers) . Regards Craven

  • robbieyvonne.hutchison - 2012-05-29 12:04

    Grrrrrrr. I am so Pissed off @ this decision. The order is meant to be Club, Province

  • Tony - 2012-05-29 16:16

    Om Vadersnaam moet nou net nie vir Wicus (hand op die grond) Blaauw speel in sy plek nie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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