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Kings seal Super Rugby spot

2012-01-27 13:44

Cape Town - The Southern Kings’ place in the Vodacom Super Rugby competition in 2013 was reaffirmed at a Special Council Meeting of the South African Rugby Union (SARU) in Cape Town on Friday.

Proposals on mechanisms to identify the four other South African entrants will be considered at a SARU Special General Meeting on March 30.

“The decision to include the Southern Kings in the 2013 Vodacom Super Rugby tournament was unanimously confirmed by the members,” said Jurie Roux, CEO of SARU on Friday.

“We will now look at the options to identify the other entrants to the competition, which will include further discussions with our SANZAR partners on the possibility of including a sixth South African team in the competition.

“The Unions will also be making their own recommendations and the outcome of those discussions and other proposals will be tabled for the Executive Council and ultimately a General Meeting to consider.”

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Comments
  • Lionel - 2012-01-27 13:59

    That is so wrong!!!!!!!!!

      Jack - 2012-01-28 08:42

      It's okay, if their spot is secured through their Currie Cup placing...let the top 5 CC teams through. Personally, I wish we could go back to a Super 12 with the top 4 teams of the 3 countries playing. Let the aussies fight it out amongst themselves as to how they select their top 4...

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-28 11:35

      I doubt that the vote was unanimous, unless it came with some sort of caveat. I would say all the smaller unions voted yes and the big ones voted no. The Kings in this competition due to no merit and not even being able to make the CC Premier division is just blatant politics and is unjust. The Griquas deserve a spot more, but then we have to call them a Cheetah feeder union to appease the gods. What bollocks.

      Ruan - 2012-01-29 12:46

      YES!!!! EP EP EP!!!!!!!! It makes sense to do it this way if you are looking towards rugby development, here are a lot of smaller unions situated together, and they need this type of influence to generate more income for themselves, so that they can develop more players! Your arguments of EP not being placed in the top 4-5 provinces is irrelevant as a lack of income has caused the state, and the only way forward is through bringing money into the province. Looking at the big picture, SA rugby will be in a better place.

      Zania - 2012-01-29 18:38

      They're turning rugby into the same joke soccer is and cricket is quickly becoming. Well done EP, on become the meritless leech of rugby, you're following nicely in the footsteps of the ruling elite.

  • Lionel - 2012-01-27 14:06

    I think they are being fast tracked cause Earl Rose has joined them:):)

  • Martin Van Rooyen - 2012-01-27 14:09

    Absolute disgrace if the Cheetahs lose their place due to this. It would close down a significant Springbok factory which will not reopen in PE. Who do we blame? Cheeky Watson, Jurie or politics?

      Hendrik - 2012-01-27 15:42

      Ja-Nee wondering about the pandering to the Watson clan......

  • Riaan van Eck - 2012-01-27 14:17

    Just when I thought SARU is back on track with a new Bok coach they go and do something like this! I am dumbfounded! Wake up guys, even the Western Force with 15 blind players will walk over these guys! The Kings should rather join the London Flower show with Earl Rose in their team!

  • Riaan van Eck - 2012-01-27 14:36

    Just when I thougth SARFU got it right with the appointment of a new coach, they go and do something stupid like this. I am dumbfounded! Even the Western Force with 15 blind players will beat these oaks. Why don't they rather enter the London Flower Show with Earl Rose there?

  • Johan - 2012-01-27 14:57

    FML

  • Justin - 2012-01-27 15:14

    Good for the SA conference. Now the stronger SAFFA teams have a weak team to play and build up points against, just like the Melbourne Rebels last year. Don't worry about freestate and griquas - all their best players play for the sharks anyway...

      Kevan - 2012-01-28 09:27

      Justin you are a total prick, all the sharks players from the free state . Do not know who you support, but I can Gaurantee you all the players in your team are not all born or started there career with your team. All teams import, so grow up.

      Niela - 2012-01-28 10:42

      Ek het regtig nie slapelose nagte oor die cheetahs nie, klomp jong ouens wat lus is vir groot rugby. Die Bulle, leeus en sharks - Julle moet worry!

      coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-29 12:27

      I think you missed the point Justin, We are not discussing the EP Kings but the Southern Kings.......

  • Allen - 2012-01-27 15:15

    Southern Kings = Canon Fodder. SANZAR may have to look to changing the Super Rugby rules to include provision for a team having to declare when they reach 100 points when playing against the Southern Kings

      coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-29 12:30

      Have the Super KIngs ever played a game against any of the other franchises?? A full strength Super Kings team will give the lions, cheetah and the bulls a go this season You like other are quite confused and mixing the EP Kings and the Southern Kings up......

      Allen - 2012-01-31 16:18

      @coolshoe - no, I'm not confused. Read the article again - it clearly talks about the Southern Kings. Super Kings are cigarettes if I remember correctly.

  • coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-27 15:29

    Awesome News!!! SA Rugby needs Super Rugby in the Eastern Cape. This will bring money and players to the region. The region has been starved for so long and the PE public have shown us how hungry they are with the AB Test and the 7's. Success wont happen overnight but with the right structures in place this will benefit SA rugby as a whole and with that improve the chances of players with colour coming trough the system. I assume there will be quite a few comments on here from the other unions supporters. Why not first give the region a chance before your usual negative feedback

      Alistair - 2012-01-27 15:41

      Coolshoe the main point here is that the Southern Kings place is at the expense of far superior rugby regions ..at least one of them will no longer be able to participate in the S15. The Kings have not performed well at First Division.. nevermind Premier league Currie Cup.. nevermind S15. This is a retarded way of doing things. Yes, a South African side has ended up at the bottom of the S15 for a few years but this might be the first time its going to be as major a whitewash. This is an embarrassment to our rugby nation.

      Hendrik - 2012-01-27 15:46

      E.P might deserve to see good rugby and good cricket, but feeding the Kings to the opposition is not going to do anyone much good. It would have made far more sense to "re-zone" the contributors to the S.A. teams. Then maybe we could have more than just 2 competitive teams at any given time.

      coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-27 16:03

      So it's a case of the rich get richer and the poor ger poorer? How does anyone expect the Southern Kings Franchise to bring in the players it needs without the money and prestige that comes along with playing Super Rugby If they were playing in the BIG league they would attract top players and be able to keep yougsters from leaving the region with the offer on money and a chance on the rugby stage which is the only route to things like national colours. Promotion/relagation will never work as what would the team do with 20 extra players and a massive wage bill once they get relagated. SARU have now made a promise, good luck to them figuring out what the outcome will be RUGBY IN THE EC ON THE RISE!!!

      Peter - 2012-01-27 16:53

      @coolshoe... So in line with current policies of give rather then earn and then wondering why people are not developed... the right to play super rugby should be earned but then this is not the New Souh African way... breakdown everything that work seems to be our way of doing things these days..

  • andre.badenhorst - 2012-01-27 15:36

    Just remember that exposure like this to a small team like the kings will mean a lot in the long run. Yes they are at present not worth much in terms of wins against stronger local teams, not to mention international teams. It does, however, create an opportunity to younger and unexposed players to gain experience. You cannot get to the top if you don't start at the bottom. I am happy for the kings!!

      Johan - 2012-01-27 15:45

      What a bunch of BS !!! The Kings have been playing a lot more games against our own super rugby teams than any other team in the vodacom cup and the currie cup first division and still nothing. the whole point of starting at teh bottom is to WORK your way up, not skip the whole middle section. The way they are going to loose aint going to be pretty and trust me it will mess with their heads, maybe even put them completely off the sport!! Your logic sir is sickening !!!

      Hendrik - 2012-01-27 15:47

      They SHOULD start at the bottom, then try to WIN the second division, then go play in the Currie Cup and IF they can more or less make it there, then go onto a bigger stage.

      syd.rose - 2012-01-27 16:53

      Don't you guys realise that whoever looses out, will just move to PE and play as the Kings.

      Bootman - 2012-01-27 17:35

      A few top players in key positions and the Kings will compete. All the negativity being spewed here stems from the fact that the Kings are made up of mostly black players. The Bulls, the Lions and even the Cheaters struggled in Super Rugby and that was okay. Nobody asked for them to be removed from the comp. Both the Bulls and The Lions hold the record for going an entire season without a win. Didnt the Kings beat the Bulls in a warmup match last year?

      Johan - 2012-01-28 10:06

      Bootman mate the griquas have more player of colour than the Kings!!!

  • John - 2012-01-27 15:39

    Bye-bye Cheetahs.

      Marius - 2012-01-27 17:50

      John, looking at what is going on in the management structuresof the union , it will be bye-bye Stormers. They are now exactly where EP were 10 years ago when a BEE management and president was voted in, who then appointed Allister Coetzee as coach. Within 3 years EP were stolen bankrupt by them and EP were coached out of the Currie Cup by Coetzee. Does it sound familiar? I pity you WP supporters. Very lean years ahead for you.

      Martin Van Rooyen - 2012-01-27 20:50

      You are probably right, but SA rugby will suffer as a result

      Niela - 2012-01-28 10:55

      Ek twyfel baie sterk of dit die Cheetahs gaan wees. Hulle het die laaste twee seisoene nie in die laaste plek van SA spanne in super rugby klaargemaak nie en verbeter elke jaar. Daar is 'n paar ander unies wat met reg baie bekommerd is!

  • Hendrik - 2012-01-27 15:41

    They would not even hold their own in the Currie Cup, to be competitive there. Why more S.A. Cannon Fodder into the Super15? We can hardly even scrape together enough quality players to get 2 sides into the "top half". This is a plain stupid decision. One wonders what "hold" Luke and his dad have over SARU?

      Lara - 2012-01-28 10:35

      It's called ANC.

  • Deon - 2012-01-27 15:44

    The other partners won't allow this, we need the strongest 5 teams.

  • Bill - 2012-01-27 16:11

    Prediction? The new whipping boys of Super rugby. Walking bonus points for one and all. Why? The politics of SA Rugby. Result? Embarrassment for SA Rugby.

      Johan - 2012-01-28 10:08

      Well Bill the Eastern Cape is already the disgrace of SA in Eductaion and the Medical field, might as well be Rugby too

  • Lutho - 2012-01-27 16:19

    Good news. Kanko, keegan, mvovo, Lional cronje, stergman, nic groom, maku, zane, mjekevu, ndungane brothers, dewald & jacque portgiter, fudge mabeta and many more- come back home boys!! The eastern cape deserve a franchise u f*n dicks, its not about colour. Because of one rugby school grey Bloem. What about Grey Pe, Dale College , Selborne College, Queens College, St Anrews, Daniel Pienar and many ather smaler schools. Stop being typical whites and look at the biger picture. Thats why Malema wants to kill us!! Start thinking like human beings not like afrikans farmers.

      coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-27 16:40

      Well said Lutho, show the rest what class originates from the EC

      Peter - 2012-01-27 16:56

      W@Lutho .. what bigger picture...Strong rugby that needs to be brought to the level of South African soccer... you can look at that picture but trust me I was brought up to aim for the best.. not the bottom

      Marius - 2012-01-27 17:41

      @ Peter. Looks like you missed the main point that Lutho tried to make and that is that a very large number of the current stars in the big unions all come from the EC. If all those players stayed in EP, where they learned their rugby, the Kings would have had a massive team and the other unions would have beeen considerably weaker without those players. But apparantly the way it's going to work is that the team that finishes last in this year's SA conference will make way for the Kings in 2013, but 75 % of that union's player's will then be made available to play for the Kings in the S15. It is the same as a football club that is being sold and then relocated to another city.

      Lutho - 2012-01-27 17:57

      @Marius. Thank you marius. Ilike any new franchise being launched (force & rebels) it will take two to 3 years, Look at the players the rebels signed (Kurtly beale, james o'coner). im very sure they wont be the laughing stock of super rugby in 2012.

      Martin Van Rooyen - 2012-01-27 20:46

      Stop stereotyping Afrikaans farmers,, you human being.

      Johan - 2012-01-28 10:10

      wooohooooo i have never seen so many overrated players names together... EVER. Point of the mater is EP has NEVER won anything of significance, that's what this is about... not colour

      coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-29 12:32

      Lutho our friends from around the country are getting rather confused here and seem to be thinking that the Southern Kings is made up of the EP Kings only......

  • mario.borchards - 2012-01-27 16:25

    what a joke! they will not win a single game...wooden spoon winner for sure!

  • Lutho - 2012-01-27 17:35

    @peter. like the cheaters and lions dominating the botom position for nearly a decade. Come on Peter, surely u do watch rugby and follow the game. THIS IS NOT A RACIAL MATER! ITS NOT ABOUT THE ANC NOR GOVERMENT.

      Cornel Van Loggerenberg - 2012-01-28 01:19

      Lutho,I'm not here to take on anyone or point fingers,but at the end of the day it really is all about the ANC and Cheeky Watson!!! Everybody keep talking about the Cheetahs and the Lions finishing last,let's say the Bulls,Sharks or Stormers finish last this year,much bigger unions than the other two,do you really think those unions are going to accept that they have to make way for a team that plays vodacom cup,loses by a margin of 30 points plus in a final,never played currie cup before,and let them face the teams of nz and aus on home ground?? They are going to be the laughingstock of south africa!!! They haven't even proven themselves in a domestic competition bit they are allowed to play in a international competition??! The Crusaders are going to kill them,and after that,its going to get worse!! All I'm saying is,let them first prove themselves in south africa for a few seasons and then if they are good enough and can prove themselves to earn a chance in a competition like the super15,then they deserve it,but before that,NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!

      Lutho - 2012-01-28 07:44

      @cornel. You looking at this the wrong way Cornel. For us its not about colour. Eatern cape is a rugby mad province, the people of the eastern cape understand the game WHITE OR BLACK. When you look at all those schools in the cape, 4 of them (DALE,SELBORNE,QUEENS & GREY PE) wer in the top 20 last year - IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE ANC???. Free State only one (Grey bloem). Most recently Port elizabeth has been awarded the home leg of the 7's series (was that the ANC???? ). Before that IN GEORGE. We dont want a black team, we want a team that represent the people of the cape. LIKE ANY FRANCHISE, WE WILL SIGN PLAYERS. PE AS A CITY WILL ATTRACT MORE PLAYERS THAN BLOEM WILL EVER ATTRACT. THE BOOMING ECONOMY IN PE MUST NOT BE OVER-LOOKED. THE CRAZY SUPPORTERS THAT WILL FIL THAT STADIUM ON A WEEKLY BASIS- WHEN LAST DID YOU SEE A PACKED STADIUM IN BLOEM FOR CHETER GAME??? THIS IS FOR WHITES AND BLACK. ITS NOT FOR THE ANC!!!! LOOK AT THE SUCCES OF THE WARIOS IN CRICKET, THEY ATTRACTED KALLIS FOR TWO SEASONS. WHY CANT SPEARS ATTRACT FRANS STEYN.

      Andre Botes - 2012-01-28 08:55

      @ Lutho. I am just wondering why the Lions don't have to perform but stay in the Super 15. They are the poorest union in the country but its fair to keep them in the super 15. I agree with you 100 percent.

      Johan - 2012-01-28 10:15

      Lutho if you want to start representing the people of the Eastern Cape... start winning trophy's.... its that easy !

      Marius - 2012-01-28 12:05

      @cornel. " EP never played Currie Cup before"? Under the coaching of Alex Wylie in 1993, EP finished 3rd overall on the Currie Cup log behind the Lions and Natal ,but still above both WP and Northern Transvaal who they have beaten on consecutive Saturdays that year. Then Allister Coetzee took over and within 2 years EP was completely out of th Currie Cup. So WP, see you in the 1st division soon.

  • JP Olckers - 2012-01-27 17:37

    Yes they will struggle,but tel them have a go! Old EP have been producing great talent for year just couldn't hold on to them because they don't have the money!

  • Miska Ponyecz - 2012-01-27 20:15

    The kings need some decent players to compete in super rugby i hope sarfu will give them some funding to contract a few experienced players

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-28 11:53

      Why? None of the other Unions get special treatment. The EC is a backwater of maladministration and poverty. Nothing will change this. It's like wanting to grow tomatoes on the moon. Nice idea but it's not going to happen. Reality is something we don't deal with in SA. Add the Watsons to the mix and you have dodgy of epic proportions. Why not elect Shabir Shaik as president and Mo as Minister of sport.

      Amanda-Leigh - 2012-01-28 12:00

      And why should SARFU treat them any different to the other teams by offering funding? If you wanna play with the pitbulls, then don't p*ss like a puppy

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-01-27 22:15

    The last time EP did anything in rugby was in the days of Garth Wright, Pote Human, Boelie Serfontein, Schalk Burger, Daantjie, Domkrag en those ous. And that was YEARS ago and they also only made semi's. Lutho mentions a few recent names- I would be hard pressed to call them stars...the Ndunganes on a good day maybe...ole Tino was a better wing than his boy is a nr 8

      Lutho - 2012-01-27 22:59

      @louis. In all those names and including players that I have not mentioned that come from the eastn cape, you pick the ndunganes. TYPICAL. why not call kegan daniels who is the current sharks captain- is he not a top player, kankowski?? luke watson- like him or not he is still a fine player.

  • Geronimo - 2012-01-27 23:50

    5 teams is already far too much for SA. Think how the Lions and Cheetahs traditionally perform in Super rugby. 4 teams would be the best for SA, all those 4 teams would be able to compete a lot more competitively than our thinly stretched 5 teams now. So this is a bit of a joke. The S15 is already too large, with too many fixtures and adding another team will not only make the formula redundant, but the extra local derbies will drive me insane. Too may local derbies already... Silly decision without any apparent sense... but I have come to expect nothing less from the SARU clowns.

  • jacques.h.kirchner - 2012-01-28 07:45

    Strange how these idiots (administrators & politicians) are so hell bent on getting the Eastern Cape franchise into Super Rugby...Methinks it is going to blow up in their faces unless serious money gets pumped in there to buy decent players. Isn't being competitive important anymore? If they WIN matches, they will garner support. Even the most die hard of fans don't want to support a losing team all the time. I feel sorry for the Cheetahs who has been playing well and do not deserve to be kicked out of the competition.

      Lutho - 2012-01-28 08:36

      WE NOT IDIOTS JACQUE. WE LOVE RUGBY THATS ALL. AND THE REGION DESERVES IT. THE ADMINISTRATORS HAVE NOT GONE ABOUT IT THE RYT WAY, I AGRE TOTALY WITH YOU. BUT THE FACT IS JACQUE, THE REGION DESERVES IT.

      Andre Botes - 2012-01-28 08:37

      I feel sorry for the Eastern Cape even more. The Lions don't have to perform and can be bankrupt as much as they like and still get the opportunity to play in the Super 15. If I don't perform in my job I get kicked out. They had their chance and just thought o well we don't have to perform cause its a given that we must play super 15. Competition is a good thing and teams will play even harder now to stay in the competition. Now the Kings will get some quality players in and maybe develop their talent because the lions sure as hell don't. At this point in time the lions is the poorest union in the country. Let them go they don't deserve it. The times are over where the bigger unions buy the Eastern Cape talent. Now we wil see how the other teams cope without the eastern cape talent.

      Johan - 2012-01-28 10:43

      @Andre Botes Yes the Lions struggle in the Super 15 ok....they won the currie cup last year....they are still one of the top unions in the country....or part of the stronger group.....the gap between Super rugby and Currie cup is quite big. curiie cup premier and 1st division is a huge difference....so the Southern Kings will really struggle....maybe they must work on a relegation basis!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-28 11:55

      Why does the region deserve it? Certainly not on merit Lutho. Explain why the EC deserves a super rugby team?

  • Lutho - 2012-01-28 08:12

    15. ZANE KIRSNER, ODWA NDUNGANE 14. BJORN BASSON, ROCCO JANSEN, AKHONA NDUNGANE 13. JJ ENGELBEG 12. *BRAD BARRIT 11. LWAZI MVOVO 10. LIONAL CRONJE 9. NIC GROOM 8. RYAN KANKOWSKI, SIYA KOLISI 7. JAQUE PRTGITER, KEEGAN DANIELS 6. Luke WATSON (C) DEWALD PORTGITER, DEON STREGMAN 5. FUDGE MABETA 4. *ROSS SKEATE 3. *BRIAN MUJATI 2. BANDISE MAKU 1.*BEAST. COACH GERT SMAL (IRELAND) THE 4 PLAYERS MARKED WITH A STAR ARE NOT BORN IN TH EASTERN CAPE- BUT IN THE BULLS STARTING 15 IN 2011 ONLY 4 WER BORN IN PRETORIA (FOURIE,WYNAND,SPIES,GARY).

      Zuljin01 - 2012-01-28 10:49

      Lutho, maybe learn how to spell the surnames of the players, before you POST EVERYTHING IN CAPS......

      Lutho - 2012-01-29 11:22

      @zULJIN WATEVER YOUR NAME IS. JUST SHUT-UP. CLEARLY U HAV NOTHING TO SAY.

  • Andre Botes - 2012-01-28 08:26

    Let's stop criticizing SA Rugby for once everyone and support them. It is probably going to be bad news for one of the other franchises yes but look at the positives out of this scenario. the people from that region never gets any exposure to super rugby. If you look at it from a geographical point of view,there is no super rugby being played from cape town right through to Durban. That means that there is no super rugby in a radius of almost 3000 km. If you look at the inland scenario there are 3 teams in a radius of 500 km from each other and 2 teams in a radius of 50 km. Is it not SA rugby duty that they bring rugby to the people? The sport belongs to the people is it not true? All I'm saying is let us put our swords away and support South Africa like the NZ public support their rugby union. Personally I just feel the lions have had a lot of chances and have not developed. If I don't perform in my job sooner or later I will be fired. Don't you think that it is fair that someone else should get a chance now seeing that the Lions are resting on their laurels? Isn't it just fair that other people should also get a fair chance? Let's not be greedy and meet other people half way as well. Especially in a region where it is needed and people need the oppertunity. The people from the eastern cape need it everyone. Who are we to decide who can benifit and who can not benifit? Isn't this what everyone always complaines about that certain people in south africa don't perform but still stay in the top structures. Well I say that the lions don't perform and should not stay in the top structures. It won't really matter as there will still be super 15 rugby in that region with the bulls being there.

  • Jason - 2012-01-28 09:00

    GoodBye Lions! With their financial woes its kind of a no brainer!

  • Niela - 2012-01-28 11:04

    Kyk hoe verloor die Kings vanmiddag met meer as 50 punte teen die Cheetahs dan besluit julle weer oor hoeveel hulle hul plek in super rugby verdien. Ek weet dit is net 'n opwarmings wedstryd maar dit beteken seker nie niks nie?

      Marius - 2012-01-28 15:27

      @ NielaDit sal meer as 70 punte wees, want dit is die tellings waarmee die OP Kings verlede jaar albei spanne waaruit die spelers kom wat vanmiddag se span opmaak geklop het. Die span wat vanmiddag die Kings genoem word bestaan uit 80% Grens spelers, en 20% SWD spelers en met die wedstryd teen die Lions in George gaan dit weer 80% SWD en 20% Grens spelers wees Nie een enkele OP speler is in die span vir enige van die 2 wedstryde nie Dis span word ook gesamentlik deur die Grens en SWD afrigters afgerig vir hierdie wedstryd en die een in George teen die Lions. Alan Solomons woon die wedstryde net as keurder by om te sien watter spelers van hierdie twee unies hy in die Southern Kings groep wil betrek. Die wedstryde oor die volgende 3 weke teen die Bulls, Stormers en Sharks wat in PE gespeel gaan word, sal miskien 'n beter indikasie wees van waar hulle eintlik staan.

  • Andrew - 2012-01-28 11:45

    They probably expect the Lions to go bust and are lining up the Kings to fill the gap ;-) Seriously though, on current ability they will be like lambs to the slaughter. If they are well funded it could work as they can contract players from whichever union makes way. I don't think a 6th Saffa franchise is a good idea, we don't yet have the player base to support that at super-rugby skill level.

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-01-28 11:50

    This is going to be embarrassing, what a joke! Well maybe they can get the whole Lions team to come play for them, seeing as that union has gone t!ts up

      coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-29 12:38

      Idiot

  • Marius - 2012-01-28 12:25

    Last year Border and EP came 1st and 2nd in the u/21 B-league and that league included Griquas, Boland, the Pumas, and Leopards, all unions rated by the commentators on this forum as being better unions than the Kings. All the Kings need is to be able to hold on to this talent to become a strong senior team again too and a S15 spot is just what is needed to encourage them to stay in the region. Bad news for the other franchises though. They will now have to start developing their own talent and not just buy the best EP and Border youngsters like they have been doing for the last 10 years.

  • Patrick Cawood - 2012-01-29 11:47

    We have deffinately got a bunch of negative,arrogant,one minded bunch of so called rugby supporters out there Did I mention factless? Have the real Southern Kings ever played a game against either of the other Super franchises? The answer is no All of you are getting confused with a team called the EP Kings 1/3 of the Southern Kings Franchise There are 2 more teams,SWD and Border. Funnily enough those 2 teams combined with minimum practise almost beat the Cheetahs yesterday Let's see how the full strength Southern Kings perform before u lot start pointing those negative fingers

  • coolshoesouthafrica - 2012-01-29 12:45

    I think allot of people are getting confused about this and seem to think that the Southern Kings will be the wipping boys of Super Rugby. The EP Kings are not the Southern KIngs, dont forget about SWD and Border. Being able to pick from all 3 teams,bringing in a few stars and having a proper academy in place with make the Super Kings one of the top 3 sides in the South African Franchise. I honestly believe this and think this is a major step in the right direction.

      hannes.handogg - 2012-01-30 11:57

      Hey Coolshoes. I agree, but shouldn't the academy be in place BEFORE you send the team to war? Currently, there's NO academy in place and SWD and Border are not exactly premier clubs with lots of money to attract talent. I personally think they're jumping the gun here a bit.

  • Clinton - 2012-01-29 21:42

    It's going to be OPEN SEASON for the big boys!! We'll possibly be seeing our very first 100+ victory in Super Rugby come the 2013 season. Brilliant SARU. Well done. Simply ingenious!!

  • hannes.handogg - 2012-01-30 08:54

    Gonna be a massacre! Instant 5 points. What a waste. Baby steps guys. Baby steps.

  • Jody - 2012-01-30 08:55

    King in super rugby will be a bad for SA rugby. Unless one of our other s15 teams are dropped and their players get drafted to Kings it will not work. Another case where people are set up to fail.

  • Pieter - 2012-01-30 13:09

    I just want to make a point. If it happens that the Bulls don’t make it for 2013 (hopefully this will not happen), what will happen with their Bok candidates? Surely players like Hougaard, Steyn, etc. would want to play competitive rugby during the S15. Will these players agents not negotiate with other unions (ie Warthas, Stormers, etc) to use them as a contract player for that season. Surely the Bulls will then rather give (at a sizeable cost to them) them to that union before sending them off to play for the Kings?

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