Kings deny R40m SARU offer

2012-07-15 13:59

Cape Town - The Southern Kings have denied a report that they accepted a R40m offer from the South African Rugby Union (SARU) to postpone their inclusion in Super Rugby to 2016.

The Weekend Argus reported on Sunday that the Kings agreed to delay their Super Rugby entry until 2016 in exchange for R40m and Currie Cup Premier Division status from next year.

But the Kings denied this report and released the following statement on their twitter page: "The story going around we've taken money to stay out of Super Rugby in 2013 is NOT TRUE ! We will be playing Super Rugby in 2013."

This means the Lions - who was the last-placed SA team in Super Rugby this year - are likely to be relegated at the expense of the Eastern Cape franchise for next year's competition.


  • cyanideandhappiness - 2012-07-15 14:07

    Why the hell did the Argus report it if it wasn't true?

      luke.sportify - 2012-07-15 14:08

      you believe everything you read in the papers???

      David Baker - 2012-07-15 14:42

      How do you know it isn't true? Because it has been denied? There is a decent chance that the deal is on the table pending signature or not. I doubt the story was concocted. More like prematurely reported before a deal was confirmed. We will find out in coming weeks whether it is true or not.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-15 15:41

      Where there's smoke... Maybe the Argus just leaked it before it should have been made public.

      jack.bleck - 2012-07-15 15:50

      because they wanted to sell their newspaper... The press isn't truly free - it's still bound by the need to pay it's staff, cover the costs of printing and distribution etc.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:49

      what did nick mallet say about it?

      andrew.cooks.5 - 2012-07-15 17:18

      @luke, you beleive everything you read on twitter???

      rodney.louis.7 - 2012-07-15 17:45

      The media as usual heard a rumour....

      thomas.cannon.712 - 2012-07-16 01:19

      The sewer rats invaded the system and now the smell is everywhere!!!!!

      jason.children - 2012-07-16 07:42

      The rugby writer ?? Nel broke the story! He came on SABC news this morning and said he stands by his story. The details of which come from very reliable sources! Time will tell! Although if the Kings play next year then SA teams get 4 byes, 2 worth 4 points and 2 worth 5. Thats an automatic 18 points. NICE!

      marius.olivier.7 - 2012-07-16 08:12

      Why would they take the offer, Ifyou play Super Rugby YOU get A R40mil share of the TV money every year anyway. For a deal to be made, the amount will have to be at least 3 times that.

  • luke.sportify - 2012-07-15 14:10

    EC Rugby on the Rise Cheeky, you are doing amazing work. EP Kings, 3/3, Promotion to the Currie Cup on the cards

      smallies - 2012-07-15 14:58

      as if the puking kings will be able to beat Griquas can not even make the vodacom cup play off games

      nicnac.nac - 2012-07-15 15:23

      luke.sportify sounds suspiciously a lot like Puke Watson. The Watson name will make EP the most unpopular team in SA and a total embarrassment for SA rugby.

      Wesley - 2012-07-15 15:48

      Wow promotion to the Curriecup and you want to play super 15. You should rather play in the craven week this week

      smallies - 2012-07-15 15:55

      they did not even make the craven week final

      Patrick Cawood - 2012-07-15 17:19

      EP Kings u/18 won 3/3 at Craven Week...EP beat the Griquas last time they played Sure they will do it again

      Wesley - 2012-07-15 18:42

      Patrick, I did not refer to the schools team, I refer to the provinsiol team

      aubrey.gloster - 2012-07-16 08:00

      Why Luke they can't even win the B section?

      marius.olivier.7 - 2012-07-16 09:05

      @smallies. Neither did WP, KZN or the FreeState play in the final. And EP beat KZN on the final day of Craven Week too, so became the only other team apart from the Bulls, who won 3/3.

      elrik.deale - 2012-07-16 11:49

      Cravenweek players are u/18 am i right? so you think that because EP has won 3/3 at cravenweek they should be allowed to play Super rugby... U/18 cravenweek and Super rugby are two different games , the EP Kings will not even feature in the Currie Cup Premier Division let alone win the 1st Division. My opinion to cheeky and all you EP fans , take the money , build your strenghts and get a proper team on the field to defend your so called remarks of winning 3/3 etc etc etc... Let the big boys pla Super rugby for now !

  • lean.sadie - 2012-07-15 15:01


      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:49

      good comment there leaning tower of pisa, really good rugby knowledge

  • warren.carne.9 - 2012-07-15 15:09

    Can someone at SARU please tell the public what the hells going on.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:50

      or nick mallet

  • Jacques - 2012-07-15 15:20

    I quote Jamie Savage: I reject your reality, and substitute my own. I just don't believe this. Pukey Watson's ol' man got sold out, no surprises there. Spineless people are known to bend over backwards like ribbons in the PE wind when confronted with 40Mil. That's my opinion- go Lions! From a Bulls fan.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:50

      i quote Nick Mallet: "the stormers will in the super 15" so what are u talking about???

      Jacques - 2012-07-15 17:01

      I took a reasonably well-known quote and applied it to my opinion of the subject matter, by using it as an introduction to my argument? \I just don't believe it...\. Thus, rejecting the reality this tweet tries to portray by replacing it with my \he was sold out\ version? \r\nD'oh!

      rodney.louis.7 - 2012-07-15 17:48

      Jaques , lets not be guilty of ignorance , Cheeky's mandate is to ensure we play Super rugby Asap !!!! no extention / or excuse whatsoever will be accepted by the trustees , supporters !!!

  • Malavi10 - 2012-07-15 15:26

    well done Kings, competation is healthy and good for South African rugby...anyway the dull lions have been last in super rugby for years now.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-15 15:43

      They've played Super Rugby since 1996. Give the Super Kings 16 years of Super Rugby and they will win more than 3 games a season. The Lions should merge with Orlando Pirates. At least their defense would improve.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:51

      i appreciate that post charles dumbwin. a chuckle it did induce

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-07-15 15:29

    Watson the biggest A - hole in SA . His son a close second. They will be an embarresment !

  • Francois Kloppers - 2012-07-15 15:35

    In, out, in then out again. The only SA teams that should be in Super Rugby, are the three teams currently left in the competition: The Stormers, Bulls and Sharks. Who cares if the Lions, Cheetahs or Kings play? Same can be said for the Force and Rebels.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:52

      francois that is true. lets make it a super 9 series. i like that idea way too much.

      Citroes - 2012-07-15 17:26

      I care whether the Cheetahs play you turd. They've been competitive for years in spite of their players leaving for greener pastures every season. They play attractive rugby and even though they don't always win, they always entertain.

  • wessiewes - 2012-07-15 15:35

    I actually hope they play, its been a while since we've seen cricket scores in rugby...Crusaders 101 - 3 EP Blings.

      Francois Kloppers - 2012-07-15 15:37


      sean.lambie.3 - 2012-07-15 18:57


      clive.harding3 - 2012-07-16 11:54

      They'll get a 3-point handicap.

  • PieterFHansen - 2012-07-15 15:41

    Not difficult to predict which team will be last placed in next year's Superugby competition.

      sulluvan.fritz - 2012-07-15 21:34

      quickly tell me which team has been last for the past five seasons in super rugby. dont even have to think i guess.

  • francois.spruyt - 2012-07-15 15:47

    As a Bulls supporter, I for one will not be supporting the Kings in Super Rugby, if it means their inclusion eliminates the proud Lions from the competition. They don't deserve to be there and they would put our country's rugby tradition to shame. The international community looks on in disbelief, as we remove our biggest province's team (Gauteng in terms of GDP) from Super Rugby, and replace it with the least important (EP). This is a sham!

      Given Von Baloyi - 2012-07-15 16:50

      Let's be honest, Lions have been a huge embarrassment, I wonder when last were their @ Elis Park those bemoaning their exclusion. At least Robert Gumede tried to redeem this useless union

      jaan.vanschaick - 2012-07-15 21:27

      Still the current Currie Cup champion and don't be suprised if they repeat the result this year.

  • mynhardt.dicks - 2012-07-15 16:00

    The Lions played the \mighty EP Kings\ in a warm up match pre season. The score was 88 - 0 to the Lions. Surely you should be stronger than the team you replace??????

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:53

      sometimes u need to sacrifice results for the good of transformation

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-15 16:54

      your name cannot possibly be mynhardt dicks, that is cruel

      Patrick Cawood - 2012-07-15 17:16

      Please check your facts before commenting on here...

      andriescombrinck - 2012-07-15 18:44

      @ Tardis: So I hope the Kings then play with a fully transformed side and give a crap about results. That would be entertaining. The only difficult thing on Superbru will be to pick the margin by which they'll lose. If Cheeky goes and buys players he would be going directly against what he promised SARU and the Government.

      marietjie.vangend - 2012-07-16 08:08


      brandewijn.vancoke - 2012-07-16 13:20

      they played a southern kings team not including any ep players. and mainly consisted out of 2nd string players from border and SWD. Everyone from the franchise region - border, swd and ep received a chance in the first 3 warmups to try and play for a spot. The games against the sharks and the Stormers (who both played their full strenght teams) played against the 1st choice team (excluding injured players), so those scores will give a better reflection on where the kings are. (and that was before some new players joined, and also the new defensive coach and skills coaches). Not as far behind as people think. the main problem will be squad depth as with a few injuries there aren't to many players to fill the gaps.

  • angela.w.henderson.9 - 2012-07-15 17:02

    What the hell has happened to rugby in this country. Since when can one person make the new rules for the super 15. Why don't SARU tell this Cheeky Watson to take a long walk off a short plank. You have to earn a place in this tournament. Please don't tell me that Rugby has become corrupt. The Lions may be last, but are a great team. They have worked their way up to be part of the tournament. Why don't the Southern kings learn to play rugby and then they have a discussion point.

  • Mandy Casey - 2012-07-15 17:15

    He would be absolutely stupid not to take the money, grow the players, buy a few, get experience in a bigger league and then try in three years time. A great windfall situation for them, which they don't deserve.

  • rob.west.92123 - 2012-07-15 17:39

    He`s trying to squeese more out of the SARU circus.

  • Martin Fick - 2012-07-15 18:46

    This will indeed be a sad day for SA rugby. EP Kings have a play off game with the Lions and if you win, then go through, but if you lose, which you will, how the hell can you replace them. Come on SARU catch a wake up, these guys are gonna embarrass us next year.

      sulluvan.fritz - 2012-07-15 21:24

      world class coach this season, well done you maintain what you achieve since they entered super rugby bottom of the log status. give other franchises a chance they cant do worse than the lions. and so by the way the lions only win the curry cup wordcup year.

  • Dakey - 2012-07-15 19:16

    I happened to discuss a situation with my father this afternoon about media. Although not personally named, he was claimed to be the cause of of a major incident all because a rival of his leaked to the reporter of a major newspaper that it had been his fault this incident occurred. His rival wrote him a letter of apology claiming it was not malicious and my father sought legal advice against the media outlet. He was informed that it would not be possible to sue the newspaper unless it could be proved that THEY deliberately sought to harm his reputation and that it was not a article written in ignorance. End result damage done, nothing my father could do. I am really sick and tired of the role the media feel they need to play in manipulating events. They could simply report this story (if true) after it becomes fact. Instead they fabricate stories to sell more papers. Are they going to also have a headline apologising if this is not true? No of course not, you'll be lucky to get a page 8 article correcting themselves.

  • fanie.essgee - 2012-07-15 19:19

    You will be the laughing stock of the rugby world......

  • andre.nel.3150 - 2012-07-15 19:44

    I reckon they should be called the CHEEKINGS !

      aubrey.gloster - 2012-07-16 08:02

      How about the ButtCHEEKS?

  • daniel.malan3 - 2012-07-15 19:46

    What have the Kings done to deserve SupeRugby? They can't even get into the freaking Premier Division of Currie Cup rugby!

  • Jbyej Junaid Itaintaday - 2012-07-15 21:49

    get ur facts rite news 24

  • sulluvan.fritz - 2012-07-15 22:00

    ep has been the supplier of rugby players for years to the bigger franchises. so what, if they took the money, atleast we can keep the players we currently have. and if we get more money we can lure all the players we lost, back home and that will be the birth of a springbok team. roughly 4 ec players in the bulls team, lions 2, sharks 2, stormers 2 and the couch. so if you want to bad mouth the kings think twice.

  • aubrey.gloster - 2012-07-16 07:59

    Die Watson was nog altyd tweegat jakkalse. Hulle sal hul siel verkoop vir 'n pot lensie sop. Go Lions

      aubrey.gloster - 2012-07-16 08:06

      Where are all the black players in the EP team? Isn't that the main reason SQUEEKY DATSUN wanted to get the PEEPEE QUEENS into the Super? The have fewer black players than the BULLS in their current squad. Also interesting is that only 4 players in their squad hails from the Eastern Cape. What is the real purpose of this all my dear WATSON? Methinks MONEY is the real KING!!!

  • viva.lebok - 2012-07-16 09:22

    The report is probably true, they declined as they want R50 million

  • fanie.essgee - 2012-07-16 09:29

    I am allready laughing at you and your team, a seriously sad turn of events, the Lions had a bad year, I seriously do not know what in heck the term is going to be for you guys next year, an embarrasing one no doubt.... one should know ones limitations, for a seemingly intelligent person, you surprise me, i wonder what you gain financially from this.....

  • elrik.deale - 2012-07-16 11:56

    Cravenweek players are u/18 am i right? so you think that because EP has won 3/3 at cravenweek they should be allowed to play Super rugby... U/18 cravenweek and Super rugby are two different games , the EP Kings will not even feature in the Currie Cup Premier Division let alone win the 1st Division. My opinion, to cheeky and all you EP fans , take the money , build your strenghts and get a proper team on the field to defend your so called comments of winning 3/3 etc etc etc... Let the big boys pla Super rugby for now

  • derik.pieterse - 2012-07-16 15:18

    The kings are not worthy to replace the LIONS, if the Lions are to be replaced, Who is the 6th best team in South Africa ?????? Who is the 16Th best team in super rugby?????? Not the kings at all.................this is a BEE thing and we all know Bee is not working. It is replacing good People with other people, to try and do the same thing, but can not, You can have a chance....but earn it (The Lions ARE the current CC champs no matter what you say about their bottom of the log position) play us a 3 game relegation match if you dare !!!!!

  • mynhardt.dicks - 2012-07-17 07:12

    The Lions played the \mighty EP Kings\ in a warm up match pre season. The score was 88 - 0 to the Lions. Surely you should be stronger than the team you replace??????

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