Johnson, Fourie off the hook

2012-05-13 10:43

Cape Town - Cheetahs loose forward Ashley Johnson and Stormers hooker Deon Fourie have been issued with off-field yellow cards after a scuffle in their Super Rugby clash at Newlands on Saturday night.

Both were guilty for contravening Law 10.4(m): Acts contrary to good sportsmanship.

The two began exchanging punches during the 55th minute of the match, which the Stormers won 16-14. Their actions prompted a mass-scuffle between various sets of players from both sides.

An off-field yellow card may be issued by the SANZAR citing commissioner for foul play incidents that are very close to, but in his opinion do not meet the red card threshold for citings.

The incident was acted upon by referee Steve Walsh. Walsh also penalised and issued a yellow and white card for a prior incident to Stormers flank Rynhardt Elstadt. Walsh then issued a white card for the entire scuffle from both teams.

Upon further review of the match footage the citing commissioner deemed off-field yellow cards were appropriate for Johnson and Fourie.


  • lwpretorius - 2012-05-13 11:40

    What effect does this off field yellow card have? Is it a trophy to be displayed in later years?

      Jason - 2012-05-13 11:50

      3 off field yellows and you get a one match ban!!! but the more worrying thing is the inconsistency of the sitings!

      Andrew - 2012-05-13 11:53

      pretty much. It just goes on their record for when citing commissions have to take the player's history into account

      Craig - 2012-05-13 11:55

      The recipients sit out the first 10 minutes in the next game they play.

      Japjapjap - 2012-05-13 19:52

      when a stoomer get 3 yellows and 2 reds,.. yo have a fullhouse at newlands?? when 2 sitbokke get 2 yellow cards each, they are a pair, but they are,.. I mean it is not a straight. when 3 stoomers get 3 yellow cards, it is a three of a kind?? when a stoomer have one good game but get 5 cards, you call it a flash, but if the stomers team lose 17 years in a row, yo don't call it a poker face, but a "bek (half) vol tanne..

  • cobus123456 - 2012-05-13 12:02

    Sorry o say the whole incident was building up due to a ref really not in anyway in control of the game. The amount of off ball incidents was appalling and he just lets it slide. Not the first game this has happened in

      gavin.j.9 - 2012-05-13 12:31

      @cobus sorry I don't agree, I believe Steve Walsh did a pretty good job, if he blew any more than he did it would have killed the game and guess who would be the first to bitch about it.... the match only really got out of hand once Ashley Johnson got on to the field and Fourie is like a stick of dynamite waiting to be lit.

      Niƫlle Truter - 2012-05-13 12:41


      Japjapjap - 2012-05-13 19:54

      ...di moeiligheid het begin toe daai vuil stoomers opi veld draf??

  • christobotha12 - 2012-05-13 12:25

    The Ref should've sorted this out, right there when the incident occurred. It doesn't serve a purpose to miss 10 minutes of the next game.

      Ryan - 2012-05-13 13:28

      Thankfully the Ref's don't sort it out immediately, otherwise he'd be guessing as to who was at fault and probably make the wrong call. Video evidence is the way to do it, even if you have to punish them later, it ensures the right people get penalised

  • christobotha12 - 2012-05-13 12:25

    The Ref should've sorted this out, right there when the incident occurred. It doesn't serve a purpose to miss 10 minutes of the next game.

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-05-13 12:38

    To me it is amazing 3 sets of eyes on the field and an option of TV adjudicator and these incidents cannot be sorted on the playing field. Then left to a citing official who in many cases has not been consistent in their rulings. If it is the case of having to sit out the first 10 minutes of play in next game, what purpose does that serve, punishment is only effective at the time of the incident as it will not be the same team upon which the transgression occurred.

  • Robsschele - 2012-05-13 13:57

    Sitting out for 10 min in your next game is the same as giving a penalty to your next opponent because you fouled in your previous match. The yellow card goes on your record. It's like a suspended sentence hanging over your head. Ask Bakkies (or Butch) about it. For a small issue you get suspended for a couple of weeks because your record doesn't look good.

  • Warren - 2012-05-13 16:04

    "The two began exchanging punches during the 55th minute"??? If Ashley Johnson threw even half a punch Deon Fourie would still be lights out. DF started the incident by looking for k*k with the wrong guy.

      Melt - 2012-05-13 17:41

      @Warren, Nee ek glo nie jy is heeltemal reg nie, daar was geniepsigheid aan beide spanne en dit is of was nog nooit goed nie. Feit is daar was n geruk en pluk en geen konkrete geslanery nie "handbags" Soos die Stormers hoogvatte uitgevoer het en geniepsig was net so was die Cheetas. As jy mooi gaan kyk hier een kant in die hoek het twee manne vir Elstadt gegryp. Die een is soos n lap weggesmyt en Elstadt het die ander op die grond vasgepen. As jy se dit is die een of daai een is jy bevooroordeeld ek glo die uitslag van die insident soos hierbo genoem is 100% korrek en almal moet dit aanvaar.

      Anton - 2012-05-14 07:46

      Melt ek weet nie of jy n stormer is nie, maarElstadt moes al vroeg in die gam gaan afkoel het nadat hy daai hoogvat gedoen het en toe nog die ander speler se nek wou afruk. Kan nie glo die 'Citing officer" het dit laat oorsien nie. Persoonlik dink ek daaris baie grys areas in hierdie persone se werk of dalk is hulle so in die "snacks " in wat hulle kry dat hulle niks sien of hoor nie.Sy versnappering was seker voor sy gesig

      Warren - 2012-05-14 12:46

      @ Melt: I never said anything about the result of the finding being right or wrong (or about Elstadt for that matter). What I said was that DF started this incident by throwing a punch at AJ. If you look at a replay you will see Jean de Villiers being tackled into touch by Andries Strauss. As Strauss gets off the ground Fourie proceeds to shove Strauss hard into JdV. Johnson then shoves Fourie in return & DF, in his infinite wisdom, then decides to punch Johnson. Johnson clearly takes huge exception to this but before he can do anything he is piled to the ground by half the Province team (realizing that their team mate was about to get monstered).

  • Emile - 2012-05-14 09:26

    Hope Elstadt doesn't get off that easy. He was the main instigator all match long. In the good old 1980's/1990's, these little jack ass players would have been sorted and cut to size quickly at the next ruck - only waking up in the lockers after the game.

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