‘Gouge’ claims to haunt Bulls?

2012-07-16 13:16

Cape Town – It was probably always going to happen ... the New Zealand media has picked up on the “eye gouging” hoo-ha from the last meeting between the two to stoke up home passions ahead of the Christchurch meeting between the Crusaders and Bulls on Saturday.

The sides meet there in a finals series qualifier on Saturday (09:35 SA time), a few months after the rumpus which followed the Loftus encounter during ordinary season, won narrowly 32-30 by the Bulls after they had led by a rather more commanding 32-16 eight minutes from time.

On that occasion, the Bulls afterwards submitted accusations that lock Flip van der Merwe and hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle had been victims of gouging, although the SANZAR citing commissioner quickly ruled there was no evidence to support the claims.

Writing on New Zealand news website The Press ( on Monday, Richard Knowler ventured: “Todd Blackadder (the Crusaders’ coach) and Kieran Read (acting captain, as Richie McCaw missed the earlier meeting) were adamant the allegations were unfounded.

“Both were annoyed by the insinuations and later they privately questioned what the Bulls, who they have always respected, had to gain by making such claims ... Blackadder is still waiting for an apology.

“The Crusaders will not have forgotten the Pretoria accusations; the sleeping dogs may be roused.”

He also suggested that the home team would be additionally motivated by the hurt of several knockout-phase losses to the Bulls on South African soil in recent seasons: they surrendered semi-finals at Loftus in all of 2010 (39-24), 2009 (36-23) and 2007 (27-12).

The Bulls, however, have a dreadful record in Christchurch, where they last won a Super Rugby match -- as Northern Transvaal – in 1996, when the Crusaders ended bottom of the standings and were beaten 34-18 by the men from the Highveld.

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  • lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-16 13:18

    Oooops,pay back time...........good luck Bulls

      nicnac.nac - 2012-07-16 13:31

      ...en die gatvlieg is nog steeds daar.

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-16 13:35

      Moenie so van jouself praat nie Nicnac:):):) Which hole have you decide to climb out of??

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-07-16 13:42

      @lionel, ons verstaan jy 'eye gouge' jouself gereeld?? trek net asb jo broek op, wanne jy klaar is....oja en was jo hande

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-16 13:46

      Great comment Jap,shows your mentatility dipstick. Always wash my hands,half breeds like you spread dreadful diseases.

      jono.qmann - 2012-07-16 13:54

      i really hope the bulls win, although i am not a big fan of the bulls i do support the SA teams when playing againts overseas teams but if there is one thing i cant stand and why i would like the bulls to beat the saders is so that all these local saders fans season comes to an end! when you cant support your own country you must rather leave!

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-07-16 14:17

      jammer @lionel- ja nee dit was ni vars ni..ek vra onverskoning, was swak lae hou. was net lus om 1 van julle weepee slaaiblare by te kom... sterkte met daai girlyboy spannetji van jo daar onder?? - 2012-07-17 08:29

      Typical of New Zealanders of late: had to crook to get the Boks out of the World Cup early and now using real schoolboy tactics to get themselves psyched up. Anyway, I predict a win for the Crusaders at Newlands.

  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-07-16 13:23

    Saders are going to castrate the bulls in NZ.....Taking a flight to NZ just to be castrated.....Stomers all the way....No need for bonus points,just win everything......

      Ettiene - 2012-07-16 14:03

      man im going to enjoy it when your team the stormers aka the chokers choke once again semi final time

      steven.loots.33 - 2012-07-16 14:17

      Los die man. Hy het vir Mallet gaan vra.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 15:16

      mallet FTW! i say we should start a petition for him to be named as official oracle of south african rugby

      johan.spies.18 - 2012-07-16 15:17

      @dronk Isak Hy lag hom nog 'n papie vir jou dronk "posts" hier oor die naweek. Jy al wakker geword? Jy weet jy moes by die werk gewees het vandag?

      kenjaymay - 2012-07-16 19:37

      @tom.turdis Normally you are such a idiot, but I have to agree with you here!

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-17 00:51

      @isak.visser. Ek dink dit was gister die dag wat turdis ingeboek was om sy tan weer aan te spuit.

  • betsy.dorris - 2012-07-16 13:26

    So tired of whinging and whining NZ teams. They seemed to have caught it from the Aussies. Oh well, i will then have to support the Bulls in this one.

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-16 19:00

      They need to drum up some drama .. you would too if you lived in the ( officially ) most boring country in the world .

      bfvillet - 2012-07-16 20:43

      bwa haha soos tolla se bloei solank hulle wag vir julle

      Caleb - 2012-07-17 03:13

      Oh dear, i think you need to take a look at past comments on this forum to understand who are the whingiest.The marks Chilliboy claimed to have gotten from gauging were sen ON CAMERA as occurring in a legitimate tackle earlier in the game. This proves he is a liar, and completely discredits any claims the bulls make. What a bunch of dishonourable liars.

      Caleb - 2012-07-17 03:17

      Oh well Random Dude, if the guardian (such a reputable paper) says its official, then it must be. I could find a couple of dozen of articles also on what a whore of a country SA is also, but i dont. Your article is 10 years old, wow, how hard did you look to try to find that. Geez what a pillick.

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-07-17 05:02

      Caleb .. please go ahead and find them ... me dunno care .. doesn't change the fact that Nzzzzzland is the most boring country on earth . Think that MSN one was a poll .. sorry man don't shoot the messenger .. Actually I googled NZ and boring ( why ? ) and picked one at random that had a link to the other two .. there were so many to go with . Please don't hurt my feelings by saying mean things ..I really value your opinion !

  • dave.short.102 - 2012-07-16 13:37

    Ag hulle probeer die mind games weer, dis die Aussies se job ouks!!! Bulls gaan wragtig beter as enige game die jaar moet speel om te wen, Drop Spies speel Stander!!! Morne, Skop net asb frikkin oor!!! Bulls Groete!!!

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-16 13:40

      Good luck Dave.

      dave.short.102 - 2012-07-16 14:10

      Thanx Lionel

  • Eddie.Minora - 2012-07-16 14:03

    dit was Pierre Spies gewees!!! fire hom!!!

      dave.short.102 - 2012-07-16 14:11


  • charl.koegelenberg - 2012-07-16 14:31

    Crusaders are going to crush the bulls on saturdag

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 15:49

      saturdag is that like heidi montag? cos if it is, count me in!

  • geoff.liddiard - 2012-07-16 14:32

    The Crusaders can't point fingers at the Bulls. They only got into the playoffs thanks to some serious "miracle work" performed by that huge lover of SA - Bryce Lawrence - in the game against the Chiefs.

      dave.short.102 - 2012-07-16 14:49


      niel.walt - 2012-07-16 15:09

      Only reason stormers are at the top aswell, chiefs got screwed with that tmo try. In defense of bryce, the chiefs had a chance to win that but then sbw stuffed it up

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 15:50

      niel walt, the only man who speaks the truth here. well done chummy

  • cape.maori - 2012-07-16 15:05

    Why do I suddenly feel so sorry for the bulls? Saders need to take revenge against these okes!

      jimmy.pop.142 - 2012-07-16 16:20


  • kevin.effenaar1 - 2012-07-16 15:12

    We should support all the S.A teams in the play offs.I want to wish both the Bulls and the Sharks good luck.They are not just representing their franchises but also our country.I also think that the bulls should have a backup for morne steyn in the starting lineup for when he starts missing.Stormers fan

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 15:51

      who is we? i only support the bulls. and if we get knocked out i support whoever knocks us out, and if the stormers knocked us out, i wouldnt support them.

      Rich - 2012-07-16 18:17

      Looks like you'll be supporting the crusaders then.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 20:27

      is effenaar a shortening of f*uckenaar?

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-17 00:54

      @dim.turdis. Looks like you are still a bit suurgat about those two losses against the Stormers this season.

  • Rich - 2012-07-16 15:19

    Greyling is so overrated - he's going to get pulverized at scrum time this weekend.

  • wimpie.grobler.7 - 2012-07-16 16:01

    The entire bulls squad is over-rated !

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 16:06

      much like that pathetic facial hair you probably call designer stubble.

      bulla.loftus - 2012-07-16 16:12

      @tom, you are on form today bro! Now, if only we can get Isak's punctuation and spelling right...

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 16:29

      isak has been written off. there is so much wrong there. and the worst part of being a mongo is you never know what a mongo is or why people call you mongo

      slang.vandermerwe - 2012-07-17 00:21

      Not quite.... They are only overrated as rugby players. Spies for example is a excellent show pony.....

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-17 00:55

      @Bokkoors. Not really. Some of them are not rated at all.

  • aidan.w.naude - 2012-07-16 16:55

    If the Crusaders and more importantly there franchise stoop to this level - then yes GO BULLS smash the granny out of them plain and simple. Stormers Groete

  • jacobus.rautenbach - 2012-07-16 18:02

    go crusadersssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

      johan.spies.18 - 2012-07-16 20:43

      @jacobus Ek dog jy skree vir Thailand?

  • johan.arendse.90 - 2012-07-16 18:53

    is tom my bitch here?

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-16 20:34


  • raymond.abrahamse - 2012-07-16 20:22

    I sincerely wish the BULLS and the SHARKS the very best of luck for Saturday.Come back with a win boys-we will be watching--From a STORMER

  • ChrisinOz294 - 2012-07-16 23:44

    I suggest the Bulls should raise the white flag of surrender like they did against the Stormers twice in the season. Do it now while you can still get out alive. Don't even wait for the game. As julle opdraf gaan julle afgeslag word. Biltong anyone?

  • jay187 - 2012-07-17 01:01

    Clutching at straws my SA friends. Maybe you should rather get your act together and let us know if we'll be playing the Lions or the Kings next year.

  • Caleb - 2012-07-17 03:10

    Go on Crusaders, teach those lying a-holes a lesson.

  • heinrich.vanjaarsveld.52 - 2012-07-17 04:04

    Stormers ek sien nie julle punt nie eerstans weet julle kan die bulle wen jul dit 2 keer die jaar gedoen tweedens is jul so dof julle al vergeet die loesing van 29 10 laasjaar op nuweland teen die crusaders as ek julle was sou ek eerder teen die bulle speel en hulle wen as om teen die crusaders in die semi te speel net om dan uit geskop te word julle weet net so goed soos die ander spanne julle kan nie teen die crusaders wen nie vat die maklike pad laat die bulle wen en wen hulle dan CHEETAHS groete

  • mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-07-17 06:55

    To all those tht say the saders play a clean game, i would like u to go bk n watch that particular game. That was the one game which exposed the subtle infringements antipodeon teams have been perp. Against us all these yrs. Eg. DC pulling bk a defender

      Heiku - 2012-07-17 13:22

      Agreed. They also invented professional obstruction (Trying to turn the game into gridiron) amongst other unsportsman like behavior.

      mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-07-17 20:21

      Most of these hv gone unnoticed or a blind eye has been turned intentionaly. Let our players do the same, they r branded cheats or bullies. All the best to all sa teams. Forward sharks

      mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-07-17 20:21

      Most of these hv gone unnoticed or a blind eye has been turned intentionaly. Let our players do the same, they r branded cheats or bullies. All the best to all sa teams. Forward sharks

      mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-07-17 20:22

      Most of these hv gone unnoticed or a blind eye has been turned intentionaly. Let our players do the same, they r branded cheats or bullies. All the best to all sa teams. Forward sharks

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