Ex-Bok sorry for 'coconut' term

2012-04-23 08:34

Johannesburg - Former Springbok captain Bob Skinstad has apologised for using a derogatory term while commentating on a Super Rugby game, according to a report on Monday.

VIDEO: Lelia Masaga tackles Lwazi Mvovo

The Star reported that he used the word "coconut" during a game between the Sharks and New Zealand's Chiefs on Saturday.

The word was used after Chiefs wing Lelia Masaga clashed heads with Sharks speedster Lwazi Mvovo, while attempting to go for a high ball. Both players were injured and left the field.

"Lelia Masaga has gone head high in an absolute coconut tackle straight onto Lwazi Mvovo and tried to take his head off," he said at the time. Later Skinstad said he had misunderstood the meaning. Chief's loose forward Scott Waldrom had tweeted: "Does the SA commentator know that the term 'coconut tackle' is actually a derogatory term?"

Skinstad replied: "Heard the term and thought it meant aiming for the 'nut' - no harm meant sorry."

Twitter user@Broncos_NRL tweeted "coconut is a racist term to describe a pacific islander, it's like calling a black man the N word".


  • Lionel - 2012-04-23 08:38

    Stick to basic English Bob and you will stay out of trouble!!!

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-23 08:49

      Exactly @Jason, one of these days we will have to speak in 'code', all the words are being 'high jacked'. Not cool!!!

      Terence - 2012-04-23 08:50

      And stop calling the field the 'paddock'. Wtf is that?

      PumaFred - 2012-04-23 08:51

      As far as I know coconut has been part of basic English for years. You coconut

      Jason - 2012-04-23 08:56

      @Terence its an English term to refer to a rugby field! Like the "pill" is the balls! Or the Engine Room is the scrum.........................

      Terence - 2012-04-23 09:02

      Thanks Jason, but he's the only one who uses the term 'paddock'. Does he think it makes him sound smarter or something?

      Terence - 2012-04-23 09:18

      Dankie René, maar dit laat hom nog steeds nie slimmer klink nie.

      Japjapjap - 2012-04-23 09:53

      I think weepee and stomers are also actually derogatory terms- all 22 of these coconuts are derogatory terms??

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 10:04

      EISH..............COCONUT, Derogatory as in Artearoa. This term is utilized by the unworthy as a reference to people of Island decent. NOT ON,

      Chrono - 2012-04-23 10:12

      Among the ex-players Bob Skinstad, Joel Stransky and Ashwin Willemse are the only commentators on TV that one can listen to - in English that is. Go for it Bob. Say what you want to say. Kobus Wiese and most of the other commentators whose home language is Afrikaans cannot speak proper English OR Afrikaans.

      Nicholas - 2012-04-23 11:26

      @Rene - Agreed, nowadays one has to tread on egg shells with use of the English language incase someone with a low self esteem gets offended. Normal words like "coconut" and "refugee" have been turned into "derogatory" terms by those poor souls wanting to be offended. 21st Century "freedom of speech"? what a laugh!!

      Bob - 2012-04-23 12:19

      in the words of Peter fatiafalofa ( samoan international and auckland representative) , " you can call me a coconut but make sure your my friend" you call your average samoan a coconut and he will probably try and knock your head (coconut) off.

      Frank - 2012-04-23 12:30

      There we are. Add the word "coconut" to the developing dictionary of rascist words ie. tycoon, refugee, coccoon etc. As I said before, we will eventually resort to sign language and grunting to avoid "offending" ethnic sensitivities and in striving to be politically correct. Use your "pip" next time Bob. Sorry if I offended some exotic species!!

      Reon - 2012-04-23 12:31

      My daughter gets called "top deck" at school by her friends, she is white on the outside and dark on the inside. Must i complain to somebody? I enjoyed the local sitcom called Coconuts, it was nice laughing at ourselves.

      Frank - 2012-04-23 12:36

      Hi Terrence. A "paddock" is a place where Bulls supporters are herded into to keep them out of the public eye and ensure that they don't hurt themselves when eating ice-cream.

      Terence - 2012-04-23 13:02

      Frank, do you do stand up?

      Christopher - 2012-04-23 13:30

      Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut Coconut coconut coconut coconut COCONUT COCONUT coconut...I

      Franklyn - 2012-04-23 14:05

      Folks please refrain from asking for coconuts in the polenesians,you may be unpleasantly surprised.

      Stoffel - 2012-04-23 15:04

      @Terrence I see you're a 37-year-old man in Pflugerville, TX Looking for guys 27 to 38,

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-23 15:39

      @bluzulu - you will always be my little coconut, i will especially UTILISE (with an S) that name for you going forward. What are you trying to be an American too? He is already tried to be a Kiwi.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-04-23 16:42

      Let's worry about the word coconut and not on the disgusting tackle by that Islander. The chiefs are dirtier than a dirtier Bok any day!

      Leon - 2012-04-23 20:09

      I grew up thinking that a coconut was something that you cracked open to eat. Now it has a "political" meaning. How times have changed!

      Jou - 2012-04-24 08:10

      Don't try so hard to be eloquent Bob. Listen to Brian Moore...he speaks from the heart and gets passionate about the game. Let the words flow naturally before you hurt yourself.

  • Tokolos - 2012-04-23 08:41

    Bob... Get it into your coconut that you cannot say coconut in public!!!

      Arthur - 2012-04-23 08:54

      What do you mean, coco nut? See what I did there?

      Jeffrey - 2012-04-23 10:18

      @bluzulu, How are SAn's supposed to guess that coconut is a derogatory name for an islander? OK here coconut is also used as a derogatory term by some blacks to describe other blacks that they see as being too "white" in their attitude. @eric, I'm a "liberal" and I'm far from being politically correct. True liberals are not left-wing "bleeding hearts"

      Japjapjap - 2012-04-23 10:32

      There are 2 things in life I hate!! ..and that is racists and coconuts??

      Marion - 2012-04-23 11:10

      @bluzulu - I have raised a black child in a white household for 13 years. He is referred to as a coconut or an oreo by blacks. Does he consider that racist? No. Do I consider it racist. No. People of colour need to get it into their heads that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a black having 'white tendencies'. I was told by someone that 'coconut' refers to blacks who deny the past/do not consider the past of any significance now.

      Kevin - 2012-04-23 11:57

      @marion please do not inherit another person of colour. As you can see by @japjap comments whatever a white person does is not good enough in certain peoples eyes. These are undoubtably people with chips on their shoulders who will never build a bridge and get over it. There are plenty white kids looking for homes/parents so give these kids a chance. Let the @japjaps of this world assist the darker kids of this world cause apparently you are not good enough. JAPJAP you ahole.

      Koos - 2012-04-23 11:59

      Dis hoog mode om 'n swart kind aan te neem. Ek wonder altyd hoekom swartes nie kinders aanneem nie? Net westerse gedrag.

      Donavan - 2012-04-23 12:12

      @bluzoo why would we utilize the term in artearoa? is that in phoenix?

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 12:36

      Marion, I lived in Auckland for 13 years , I am just advising that the term "Coconut" is a derogatory term for Islanders in the South Pacific. This commentator knows this as he has spent enough time in Aetearoa. It was an obvious gaffe which he has apologized for,

      Marion - 2012-04-23 13:20

      @japjap - take the c**p you talk and shove it right back where it came from. He is our child in every sense of the word and he is treated exactly the same as our own children were treated. And it is people like you who are creating 'the gemors' in our country, not people like my husband and I. @Koos - taking this child on had nothing to do with fashion. We are not celebrities or even affluent people who want to look good in the eyes of the world. We had already raised four of our own. There was a child in need and we took him in.

      Brett - 2012-04-23 14:23

      bluzulu why were you deported from NZ?

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 14:41

      Brett, I know it eats some of yous up that someone with a Foreign passport chooses to live in RSA. Marion , you and your man are my Heros. Yous are a shining light to some that are blinded, soon they too will see the light.

      Marion - 2012-04-23 15:04

      @japjapjap - (what are you, a chihuahua? japjapjap) - You are so obsessed with your 'identity' that your humanity went right out the window. If you had any to begin with that is. You would rather see a child starving in a shack/on the streets than being given an opportunity in life. And, no, I don't speak to him in his birth language (you should learn to spell in yours by the way). I teach him about his culture and the struggle as best I can. I don't dress him in 'cultural dress' mainly because the leopard is an endangered species. There is nothing wrong with my sense of 'identity' thank you very much but you obviously don't have one outside your 'nasie'. My principles and value system are no concern of yours. As far as my stupid language goes, I use it proudly and so does he. All you can think of is 'Hollywood fashion'. I took my son on long before Hollywood found it fashionable. My son is my son whom I love, not some trophy.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 17:19

      Finally a real LADY worthy to be called a Queen.......................Queen Marion,

      John - 2012-04-24 08:20

      @Marion. I think you are a bulshipper. If you are so proud of your oreo, why doesn't he or any of your four sons appear in your profile?Because they're non existent, you like to stir things up a bit. Lonely troll comes to mind.

      Marion - 2012-04-24 10:18

      @JohnB - I don't know what you get to see when you view my profile, but rest assured my three sons and two daughters are definitely listed on my fb page. Up yours mate.

      johncarlos.biza - 2012-04-24 10:50

      Oh my god the commenters on this site are pathetic! No normal person would attack a stranger's family setup on a sports website! You people need lives.

  • Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-23 08:42

    Geez, and here I was thinking that Coconuts are used for for cocktails: Pina Colada, Daiquiri!!! Why is everything 'derogatory or racist'? We need a new vocabulary/dictionary so we are all on the same page!!

      Pia - 2012-04-24 00:40

      South africa has been in the wilderness for a long time and are not up too speed with the rest of the world on right or wrong

  • Gareth - 2012-04-23 08:44

    No harm No foul! He is a coconut Bob. We dont ever mention the bad commentary from the AUS commentators. So they can stick their 5cents up their arse!!!

  • Herman - 2012-04-23 08:47

    Pathetic, bloody pathetic. Every word has got a racist connection it seems. Call a spade a spade and you are making a racist remark. Pathetic.

      Herman - 2012-04-23 08:55

      Are you out of your mind thebe????

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-04-23 08:59

      @thebe troll alert

      Herman - 2012-04-23 09:12

      This is exactlynwhy we will always have a bloody issue with racism. It starts with a word that means nothing and was NOT said in any racial connotation and people feels sorry for themselves. When these people start to realise that all we want in SA is a working and progressive country without this nonsence, only then will we move forward. Thebe seems to be one of those people not understanding what we want to achieve in this country. That is the pathetic side of this nonsence.......

      Raymond - 2012-04-24 13:21

      Be carefull there ~ calling someone a spade in the US is a derogatory racist remark. Your point is proven

  • PumaFred - 2012-04-23 08:49

    FFS people get a life.

  • benlloyd.roth - 2012-04-23 08:51

    what did the one coconut say to the other coconut? you're nuts! thats what i think of this whole fiasco...

  • michaelbullardSA - 2012-04-23 08:53

    COCONUT TACKLE noun - in rugby, a head-high tackle (NEW ZEALAND). 1998 Taken from: The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English

      Jason - 2012-04-23 08:58

      thanks for bob was not wrong!!!

      Gungets - 2012-04-23 09:54

      Exactly. The tackle perfected by Pat Lam when he tried to kill Hougard in 1999 (RWC - think it was that year), then 4 years later tried it again and concussed himself. Shackle draggers need to get over themselves

      Ina - 2012-04-23 10:00

      Oh well done, Michael! All this political correctness is very wearisome. It gets so that one is too scared to use any previously accepted 'slang' terms, which is really a perfectly normal and natural way of using relaxed, everyday language

      Japjapjap - 2012-04-23 10:13

      @jason- bob is from weepee, he's wrong!! will always be.....

      Nivas - 2012-04-23 10:43

      Thank you for saying this.. This country to so sensitive about this bloody Race issue that it looks for every excuse to bring up that card!!! Its Olde English to use a phrase to interpret a meaning: Coconut tackle = high tackle.. simple as that! Imagine how much of trouble Shakespeare would have got into, if he lived in our day!!!

      Marcel - 2012-04-23 11:23

      @japjapjap, really?! don't insult a man about his rugby team...if you cant contribute in a educated, logical and decent way, shut your big old pie hole!! You suck for making a comment like that.. Douche.. By the way go look at the log youcrugby blind idiot!!

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-04-23 13:16

      He apologised just to appease the pathetic islander. How can people respect this sort of person, it was so obvious Bob did not mean it in a derogartory way? I've had it with these people.

      Vincent - 2012-04-24 02:57

      You are correct !The white Kiwis have no problem calling the Pacific Islanders a coconut but if a South African commentator does it ,it is racist !Wow ,double standards !SouthAfrican born Kiwi .

  • Neil - 2012-04-23 08:53

    Ok, but where is the citing in any event?

  • gvangreunen - 2012-04-23 09:03

    Shame ... after almost 20 years of democracy and being the country's favourite colour they still have soooo many hang-up! Coconuts are your heads you twits (oops I wonder if I'm still allowed to say twits?)!

      Ze Don - 2012-04-23 09:32

      Well I can't see how a pregnant goldfish (aka a twit) can have racial context... ROFL!

      Anele - 2012-04-23 11:16

      well i dont know if they have had 20years of democracy as well, as no Black Native South africans complained about this it was the Moari's??

      Shaville - 2012-04-23 11:59

      gvangreunen, do you think Bob was sincere when he offered his apology to the offended person, or do you think he still feel like most of the people on this site. Will we ever accept that certain things matter therefore it will hurt when not valued as understood. Based on the comments I take that most of not all of you are white. Are your standards always the norm, if not who's to decide - the offended or the offender? Think carefully before you answer. Right now you feel "hurt" - thus the offended - because you cannot use certain words in the presence of the "abuser of his position because of the past" and thus the offender? Is this still relative?

  • donallen.johnstone - 2012-04-23 09:06

    Need to reiterate Michael Bullard's post below! "COCONUT TACKLE noun - in rugby, a head-high tackle (NEW ZEALAND). 1998 Taken from: The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English" ---- no harm done Bob! (although your researchers & writers should be a little more aware of things!) If it had been Pat Lambie & Robbie Robinson clashing heads & a Kiwi commentator had used the term nobody would bat an eyelid!

      Jason - 2012-04-23 09:45

      My thoughts exactly Don, and you got your tweet out before me, which saved me writing one lol!

  • Jacques - 2012-04-23 09:08

    We know you didnt mean it like that, Bob. You ought to have had background knowledge on the term though. A couple of years ago an SA coach ( I think it was Rudy Joubert with the Bulls) was in the same spot of bother. Anyways, no actual harm done. We live and learn. And while I have your attention: Could you pretty please stop mimicking the Aussies and rather find your own style of commenting? Thanks.

  • deonk - 2012-04-23 09:10

    Sorry but this is an overreaction. Seems like the NZ teams enjoy playing the race card this year. Good that its not us for a change! Leave Bob alone.

  • Philip Mostert - 2012-04-23 09:10

    Seriously not a big deal! I didnt even think funny of it at the time, what if Ndugane said that? In my books Skinstad is not guilty of anything

  • allblacksfanatic - 2012-04-23 09:10

    I wonder if the sentiment would've been the same if the comment was made in NZ or AUS against a SA player??? #DontThinkSo #Hypocrites

      Saffa - 2012-04-23 09:24

      But you guys devised the term in the 1st place? It's a 'New Zealand-ism' used to refer to a head high tackle.....Even I know that. - 2012-04-23 09:46

      Surely its the intention of the person saying the term that matters? Having said that I knew he term was offensive to some. Surprised Bob didn't. However I believe him when he says he didn't know

      Donavan - 2012-04-24 14:30

      it was, during the nz vs proteas test series, craig macmillan referred to us as jaapies, pot calling the kettle a coconut??

  • Michelle - 2012-04-23 09:12

    While teaching I was told by the children (all races) that coconut refers to a black person who acts or wants to be white. The kids turned it into a joke. Such a pity that adults cannot deal with "things" the way kids do. And all those children all still buddies. White, black, coloured, Indian and of course Coconut

      Eric - 2012-04-23 09:29

      michelle, you have it right., and it was seen as a compliment at the time. Brown outside, but white inside!!! What a nice place SA would be if we had lots more coconuts

      Shona - 2012-04-23 14:11 long has it been a bad word to use? The last few years we've had to change so many sayings cos it now offends people. I had no idea it meant something horrible to a person in another country...u can't just say everyone knows what it means! Also he said "coconut tackle" meaning a stupid tackle for anyone to do! He did not call the person a "coconut"!

  • Rob - 2012-04-23 09:19

    Victim mentality surfaces again ! Ridiculous.

  • Matt - 2012-04-23 09:22

    my name is matt, short for matthew from The Bible... may i say it loud in public or will it be considered insensitive against all other religions...?? really now!!

  • Zwelithini - 2012-04-23 09:29

    According to Scott Waldron of Chiefs the term "coconut tackle" is racist. So how does this becomes South African race problem???????

  • Chriskoi1 - 2012-04-23 09:33

    Moet nie worrie nie Bobby dit was verseker nie jou bedoeling nie .

      tony.kirby1 - 2012-04-23 10:43

      Chris dis BOB nie meer Bobby, Hy is nou n groot man se hy.

  • Johan - 2012-04-23 09:34

    NZ know our history, they just want to stir and play us. Ignore it

  • Faizie - 2012-04-23 09:36

    No coconut, means dark on the outside but white behind the sunglasses. Many like that in SA. Have you checked them out in your corporate workplace

  • Rod - 2012-04-23 09:36

    More racial BS

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-04-23 09:36

    Getting so tired of the COCONUTS ! Get a life !

  • Ian - 2012-04-23 09:38

    Why apologize - there is a TV program called the " the coconuts" no-one is complaining about the title

      Marion - 2012-04-23 11:16


  • Ian - 2012-04-23 09:39

    why apologize there is even a tv program titled "the coconuts"

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-04-23 09:41

    lokl now what

  • Ian - 2012-04-23 09:41

    why apologize there is even a tv program titled " the coconuts" no one is complaining about that

  • morneoosthuizen - 2012-04-23 09:42

    In that case, I DEMAND that Cracker Bread gets taken of the shop shelves. Its a Racial Slur...

      Marion - 2012-04-23 11:17

      I thought it was used in reference to Shrien Dewani.

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-04-23 09:42

    a white man refering to a black man as a cocanut what now ////?????

  • smahlaba - 2012-04-23 09:44

    This whole thing is just a mis-understanding. No harm done.

  • Carol-lynne - 2012-04-23 09:44

    OH MY WORD! Grow up already! I have often heard the phrase 'right on the coconut' when there wasn't a (am I allowed to say 'black' ?)person involved. Coconut refers to head. Bob is one of the last people who would want to offend anyone. Why don't the TRU racist blacks who spend their time looking for 'slurs' just back off and find another hobby!

      Peter - 2012-04-23 12:51

      Shaville .... "Just because coconut is acceptable for you does not mean I will value it ....." Right back at you SOD!! Just 'cause you find it offensive don't mean I won't use it. Get a life and get off your "I am so entitled to more than you" soap-box.

  • guyt1 - 2012-04-23 09:49

    Race is always brought up in everything we do now a days . Have to say im sick of just about everything being said to be racist . A black male better not call me whitey again

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-23 10:15

      I do not think your problem is with SA black people. They mostly understand the word and the context it was said in. I think your problem should be more with the stupid NZ forward and the media that wants to make something for it. In English it is an old word/saying that he used and if one wants to use/make another one's languages as your own you must accept his words and sayings as well. SA humor is to such an extend that we even made a tv series from it.

      kensong.ben - 2012-04-23 11:38

      Whitey whithey ...get it ? Now trow the k word ..ur fair game , im fair game punch intented , no malice ..seriously people should get off of racialising everything if the intend isn,t to upscaling or downgading one race over another..

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-23 12:15!!!! (whitey whitey...;) ) Being an Afrikaans boerseun from the farm I am not as white. A bit more "tanned". Maybe you and old "WhiteyMrGuyT" can get a name for the ones like me as well. Remember, not insulting, but one that are true to my description. LOL!!!!

  • Gareth - 2012-04-23 09:50

    Did you know more people die every year of coconuts falling on their heads than shark attacks? In fairness the tackle by Masanga was shocking, he should receive a ban for it.

      Razz - 2012-04-23 10:34

      @Gareth your comment is shocking. Know your sport before passing a comment. The blog should ban you for this comment.

      Gareth - 2012-04-23 15:12

      29 people disagree Razz perhaps you don't know your rugga.

  • debbi.meadows - 2012-04-23 09:57

    So is he also now going to get fired like Darren was?

      Shaville - 2012-04-23 12:11

      Oh how I wish someone up there will use it so that I don't have to listen to his commentary. What I think of it I'll rather keep for myself, before it becomes a race issue.

  • David - 2012-04-23 09:59

    Oh Come on-what an overreaction to an innocent remark--how silly are we becoming?

  • Piet - 2012-04-23 10:05

    Maybe next time refer to the tackle as a "noodle tackle".

      Franklyn - 2012-04-23 14:43

      mate,in Italy you donta wanna be usinga thata word noodle, capische ?

  • kensong.ben - 2012-04-23 10:07

    To all ..before going ga ga n resurrecting the nazi to take the poor fellow to the chambers , remember that coconut is just a metaphor refering to head in a rugby jargon. No malicious intend .. From a desenticised darky who knows how to draw a line ...

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 12:42

      ""From a desenticised darky""..............This is nice to know Desensitised one.

      kensong.ben - 2012-04-23 13:30

      Lol...don,t even try to go there bluzulu..can smell what u will be on from a mile ;)

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 13:52

      hahahahaahahaahaaa....Don't call yourself Darky bud, you will feel better.............

  • Justin - 2012-04-23 10:11

    WTF? Since when was coconut used in this context derogatory? I'm afraid whom ever considers this derogatory to go and get councilling. Bob is the best rugby commentator SA has produced in decades, and I heard him say it live and thought it totally appropriate. It describes the clash of two heads very well, and has absolutely no insinuatory connotations. Seriously if you thumb down this, then you need your coconut checked!

  • moregareth - 2012-04-23 10:12

    What a fickle world we live in. There is always some ethnic group that takes offence. I understand that every country has its own history and issues, but this is bordering on ridiculous!

  • jpcronje - 2012-04-23 10:32

    Bou 'n brug en kom oor dit asb

  • tony.kirby1 - 2012-04-23 10:39

    Jackblack a coconut is noy black but brown and starts off green. Seems anything that is not white is black these days.

  • Abie - 2012-04-23 10:41

    Do the right thing Supersport. Fire him.

  • tony.kirby1 - 2012-04-23 10:46

    Question, What is cocnut milk then these days. Has it still the same as it has always been or may I use the word when making a curry.

  • Thys - 2012-04-23 10:46

    This is a jok!!!

  • Richard - 2012-04-23 10:46

    Re Bob Skinstad comment - Are we so narrow minded and small, that we have to think everything that is said has a racial conotation - I was listnening to the commentation and I think a racial insunuation was the last thing on his mind when he said it- Shame on those people that want to make something out of nothing again - they have nothing else in their lives to keep them occupied

      Stephan - 2012-04-23 12:18

      @Richard: You are 100% right...Seems we need to ask permission these day to go for a sh#t as well? We have a LAW in our SA that gives all of us the right to speak and to have freedom of speach? WTF with a racial insunuation? Tell these COCONUTS to F#$K off BOB!!!!

  • Bokfan - 2012-04-23 10:50

    The NZ thugs are moaning about slang while there player is guilty of attempted murder. Why has he not been cited for dangerous play. He should be banned for life.

  • Thys - 2012-04-23 10:50

    This must be a joke!!!!

  • Jaco - 2012-04-23 10:56

    We South Africans are so quick to apologize!! Stuff them. Its just a ploy to get the attention from the tackle. Did not watch the game, but it sounds as if the tackle was not totally legal??

  • DigitalDogz - 2012-04-23 11:01

    What is a well balanced ..... man? He has a chip on both shoulders!