Crusaders hold off Stormers

2012-04-14 11:24

Christchurch - Rookie flyhalf Tom Taylor scored 31 points as the Crusaders brought an end to the Stormers' six-game winning streak in 2012 with a 31-24 victory in their Super Rugby clash on Saturday.

Two sides packed with All Blacks and Springboks made for a contest of the highest quality at AMI Stadium but it was 23-year-old student Taylor's try and 26 points from a perfect display of kicking that proved decisive.

Peter Grant kicked a penalty well after the siren to give the Stormers a bonus point that will give them at least with a share of the lead in the South African conference despite their first defeat in seven matches this year.

With Dan Carter being played out of position at inside centre the Crusaders backline had an unusual look about it as it came up against what is traditionally the meanest defence in the competition.

The South Africans showed that they had qualities aplenty in attack too, though, with an opportunist try from centre Juan de Jongh and a brilliant team effort finished off by winger Bryan Habana.

It was Taylor who got the first try, however, when the Crusaders put together an attack of dazzling simplicity from a turnover in the 13th minute.

Straight running and quick hands got the ball out to hooker Corey Flynn on the wing and his pass inside gave Taylor a clear run to the line.

Taylor, the son of All Black Warwick Taylor, added the extra points but the Stormers charged back with a try of their own seven minutes later when De Jongh hacked on a grounded pass from Carter and won a footrace to recover the ball and score.

The Crusaders managed to see out Wyatt Crockett's 10 minutes in the sin bin for a high tackle around the half-time break and still emerge with a 22-16 lead as Taylor continued to punish all Stormers' infractions.

The Cape Town-based outfit ramped up the tempo considerably around the hour mark and phase after phase of pressure drew its reward when Dewaldt Duvenage's clever crosskick was gathered by Habana for the Springbok flyer's 51st Super Rugby try.

Pietersen missed the conversion and a chance for the Stormers to edge ahead, though, and a yellow card for flanker Rynhardt Elstadt, also for a high tackle, combined with Taylor's sixth penalty gave the home side daylight at 25-21.

Two more Taylor penalties secured a fourth win in seven matches for the Crusaders and made up in some part for the disapppointment of falling to a narrow defeat to the Bulls in South Africa last week.



Try: Tom Taylor

Conversions: Taylor

Penalties: Taylor (8)


Tries: Juan de Jongh, Bryan Habana

Conversion: Joe Pietersen

Penalties: Pietersen (2), Peter Grant (2)


15 Israel Dagg, 14 Sean Maitland, 13 Robbie Fruean, 12 Dan Carter, 11 Zac Guildford, 10 Tom Taylor, 9 Andy Ellis, 8 Kieran Read (captain), 7 Matt Todd, 6 George Whitelock, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Tom Donnelly, 3 Ben Franks, 2 Corey Flynn, 1 Wyatt Crockett

Substitutes: 16 Quentin MacDonald, 17 Owen Franks, 18 Luke Romano, 19 Luke Whitelock, 20 Willi Heinz, 21 Ryan Crotty, 22 Tom Marshall

15 Johan Pietersen, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Rynhardt Elstadt, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Steven Kitshoff

Substitutes: 16 Deon Fourie, 17 Frans Malherbe, 18 De Kock Steenkamp, 19 Nizaam Carr, 20 Louis Schreuder, 21 Burton Francis, 22 JP du Plessis


  • leonard.lightman - 2012-04-14 11:27

    Injuries with some crappy decisions by the ref were not helping ...It would have been a totally different outcome, but cheers to the crusaders and HEADS UP against the Reds next week !

      leonard.lightman - 2012-04-14 11:28

      Hope that Andries and Eben are fine though ! NEXT THE CHEETAHS AND THE BULLS-LIONS ! exciting night in perspective...

      Terence - 2012-04-14 11:33

      I thought only Bulls supporters complain about the ref?

      Koos - 2012-04-14 11:40

      Yip. The difference would have been more.

      Pierre - 2012-04-14 11:44

      In a ruck can one rake the ball back with the hand while lying on the ground ? Just asking. But I quess the Ref was sometimes confused who is on what side, cause at every Stormers breakdown there were more red than blue jerseys just lying there. Anyway was a good game; high intensity from both teams. Good to see SA teams give their all in these away games.

      Marko - 2012-04-14 11:58

      I hope the Reds WIN

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 12:02

      Shame, now the ref gets it. IN YOUR FACE!!! Cry Baby Leonard

      Nicholas - 2012-04-14 12:36

      @leonard.lightman - not helping??? the Stormers scored a try off a knock on and forward ball that the ref missed. That was a "crappy" decision but that went against the Crusaders ...

      Bob - 2012-04-14 23:24

      nooo!! this cant be .......another saffa complaining about ref decisions.

  • Priester - 2012-04-14 11:27

    O gatta patta!!! Wat het nou gebeur? Eish I was so hopping for another SA win but not to be. I did not see the first half but in the second the Stormers really gave it their all. Hope Elstadt and Bekker is ok. Sorry Sakkie. Blou Bul Groete!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 12:04

      Priester Why do you say sorry. The "Gods" of SA rugby's demise has started. All downhill from here. This is a very good day for Tokolos. All the other results don't matter anymore. Go Bulls!

      Priester - 2012-04-14 12:52

      Tokolos, I am patriotic and will always support the SA side. The Bulls are big enough to sort the papsakke later and take the cup. Blou Bul Groete!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 18:31

      Is jy ok Sakkie? Sê as daar iets is waarmee Tokolos kan help ou maat. Go Stormers!!!

  • WernerZA - 2012-04-14 11:29

    Don't think ther stormers are going to be top of the table tomorrow... So the unbeaten side is no more... What now?

      Terence - 2012-04-14 11:33

      Wheels coming off.

      Shoosh - 2012-04-14 11:37

      @Werner you are such an idiot. NO team has ever gone unbeaten in this tournament since inception, very few, if indeed any, have gone unbeaten in any sport for the entire season. You can now celebrate the loss of a South African franchise with your Klippies & coke, you pitiful chop.

      Riaan - 2012-04-14 11:38

      @ Terence. If our wheels are coming off after our 1st loss where are the Bulls wheels after 2 losses?

      Terence - 2012-04-14 11:48

      Crap, you know how you guys always end.

      Riaan - 2012-04-14 11:51

      @ Terence. Recently yes... Above you in the conference:)

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 12:02

      @ Terence.. Djulle Ossewa.. het verleede jaar in die modder vas gesit.. En julle twee verloore is julle klaar sonder jul houte wiel.. Get rid of Spies and the spare wheel will come on

      Terence - 2012-04-14 12:04

      With no cups.

      Jonathan - 2012-04-14 12:05

      first loss means nothing

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 12:07

      Here we go with the conference thing again. Crappants, it doesn't matter in the end if you cannot hold the trophy up high. How many times must Tokolos tell you this? The beginning of the end bigmouth!

      Jonathan - 2012-04-14 12:10

      fourth position with a long season still to go.And it was a brilliant game of rugby by two brilliant teams.

      johnny.botha1 - 2012-04-14 13:39

      @Shoosh - try weer ouboet die Saders het in 2002 niks verloor

      shaun.meintjies - 2012-04-14 13:48

      @ Shoosh, Auckland Blues is the only team to have won the tournament without losing a game. Guess who’s the idiot? Stormers missed Schalk and Flow today at breakdowns........It's just a slip and not a fall. STORMERS!!!

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 14:24

      Terence cup up wif something else

      Schaun - 2012-04-14 21:48

      at shoosh:well even if the stormers went unbeaten till the end, they will stick to their believe and loose the final as always,,sad but true.2,at crapdetector: yes i must just remind you that the weels of the bulls came of plenty...actually 4 wheels and they still manage to win the super cup 3 times bla bla bla..3 and same breath to u o crappy, thats only cup they won in lets seee past 10 years, the conference cup....congrats bru,soething to be really proud of, woot woot... also i think saders did nt lost in one year any games, to rest of stormers that talks sence, hard luck peeps, hoped for a win, hope the injuries gets fixed and u smash the reds and hurt them where it counts good luck

      Bossie - 2012-04-14 23:30

      @Terry- jou 1 liners gee Boksburg n slegte naam

  • dawiej - 2012-04-14 11:29

    How is it possible that there were 4 NZ refs officiating this game? I was under the impression that the modern games are officiated with neutral refs. I think the officiating sucked by the NZ refs, but then i don't think there is any surprise there. That said, with the stormers losing both their star locks so early and still managed to end where they did, even considering the ridicules sendoff of elstad for a so called high tackle , i consider this a win for them, just a pity they couldn't add the 4 points. I just hope something can be done in the future with regards to refs blatant favoring the crusaders as displayed in the last 5 minutes  STORMERS WELL DONE ,!!!!!!

      WernerZA - 2012-04-14 11:31

      Let me guess, you support the stormers? :)

      Terence - 2012-04-14 11:33

      I thought only Bulls supporters complain about the ref?

      Priester - 2012-04-14 11:37

      @Dawie, what a pathetic comment. I think the ref was fair and consistent. Need I remind you that Elstad was not the only one yellow carded? Blou Bul Groete!

      riaan.dutoit - 2012-04-14 11:38

      You conveniently forget the yellow card the Crusaders got that was not a yellow card either, and the knock-on from Joe that resulted in a Stormers try. The refs were poor but the Stormers got the greater benefit from it so all I can say is be happy with the bonus point and move on because the Stormers were lucky to get the bonus. If the referee’s were better, the Stormers would have lost by n bigger margin. Do not be so blatantly bias, please.

      Rich - 2012-04-14 11:54

      dawjel, watched much rugby lately?

      Marko - 2012-04-14 11:56

      Dawie, you did not complain when the Stormers played the Blues and other foreighn teams with 4 SA match officials.

      dawiej - 2012-04-14 11:59

      @WernerZA. I dont have to guess youre a bull supporter with a comment like that. You obviously wayched the the game with blinkers and your pink shirt on.

      dawiej - 2012-04-14 12:03

      @Riaan. No i did not forget, but there is a differenc between deserving one and not deserving. And do ypurself a favour and look at the maul before the crusaders try where ghe saders played the ball on the stormers side on the ground to steal it. Even the commentators laughed at the ref, or did you miss that to? one

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 12:10

      Dawie is a cry baby just like the rest of them! The Storm is over. It's now a Stormpie! Cupless again this year I see oh "mighty ones"

      Sean - 2012-04-14 12:35

      @Dawie - I wrote earlier the same , but I`ll write it again - Stormers are playing well , but I still stick to my point , at least 3 games they won were thanks to the ref !!!!! Facts are facts !! Stormers are the ``luckiest team`` when it comes to ref descisions

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 14:26

      Sean KEEP QUIET about the the ref.. You okes had a few forward passes thst ended in tries not picked up by the officials you complain about.

      Sean - 2012-04-14 16:14

      @Stormkaap- What`s wrong ? Does the truth hurt ? Just don`t forget , this competition is far from over and you have won nothing yet !!!!!!

      Marko - 2012-04-14 17:47

      Its not stormkaap its DOMKAAP, or if I were them STOMKAAP. And just shut up.

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 20:06

      Julle is net naar..... Julle oe is blou en julle kan niks reg sien nie

      Bob - 2012-04-14 23:31

      you obviously did not watch all the game dawiej otherwise you would not say such a stupid comment.the stormers try was clearly a knock on . get over it you poor chump.

      Pierre - 2012-04-15 00:21

      Bob - there is only country that is way ahead in the whining department and that is your NZ, or possible your adopted NZ.

      Marko - 2012-04-15 08:49

      Ja ou STOMKAAP/DOMKAAP julle hoef nie eers pienk te dra om swak te speel nie. En weet jy way? Julle gaan nog volgende week teen die Reds ook verloor. Ha ha kan nie wag nie! Die skoen is nou aan die ander voet.

  • Riaan - 2012-04-14 11:30

    Well done to the Saders. If you make too many mistakes you cant have much of a expectation to win the game. Now they just need to work hard for next week to ensure we win the rest of our games on tour. I am sure a lot of bulls supporters will have a lot to say but the fact remains they still need to tour. Maybe once they have also toured we can compare notes and see where we stand.

      Priester - 2012-04-14 11:40

      @ Carppies gaan soek skoor op 'n ander plek. Die Bulls en supporters weet dit is nie makllik nie. Blou bul Groete vir jou ook hoor!

      Riaan - 2012-04-14 11:47

      @ Priester. Jy vat my comment uit konteks uit. Ek dink my aanmerking was regverdig en ek het niks verder daarmee bedoel nie behalwe dat die Bulle nog moet gaan toer. Ek dink jy lees te veel daarin. Good luck vanmiddag.

      Riaan - 2012-04-14 14:32

      I see blouvitrioel is just as clever and witty as the clown. Well done! You must both be members of MENSA. I just know with such intellectual banter you must be.

      Franklyn - 2012-04-14 15:29

      dont worry mate ! they are all closet WP supporters,when WP start winning again then you see Loftus with more WP shirts than Bulls colours.

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 18:35

      It's a pleasure Crappants Tokolos aim to please. At least you see Tokolos as entertaining. I wonder who are the biggest clowns this week after all the hype. Your cousin Lionel is very very quiet today as well I see. Still nothing in my inbox. Bigmouth!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-15 07:06

      Tokolos think that Crapdetector is a girl! Bitching and moaning all day and when Tokolos puts him in his place he dos not have a comeback line and then run and report the comment and it gets deleted by the pro-Stormer admin on these blogs. Pissie!!!

  • Ken - 2012-04-14 11:33

    Great game of rugby. Both sides got good and bad decisions. Thats the way it goes. Good to watch Stormers play with out the booing. Bad luck Izak

  • Charl - 2012-04-14 11:36

    Crusaders Thats why thay are the 7time champs. Fly from sa to NZ, take one the stormers and stil beat them. Would have beaten the bulls last weekend if it wasnt for Jaco Phyper

      Terence - 2012-04-14 11:49

      Looks at the scoreboard.

  • Tertius - 2012-04-14 11:38

    well fought stormers! The sades are tough at home, beating the bulls 27-0 there last year. You did well under the circumstances. Now for the rest of the tour, give them hell!

      Saffa - 2012-04-14 15:21

      @Tertius Remember when the Bulls beat the Stormers 75-14!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 18:58

      Hy is maar 'n dommetjie Saffa. Tokolos hoor hy is gekies vir die Special Olympics die jaar. Nie op ability nie maar op sy looks.

  • Kevin - 2012-04-14 11:38

    Well done to the 'saders. An exciting game.

  • Willem - 2012-04-14 11:39

    Jammer Stormers, Bulle kry daai bonus punt!

      waynemegganw - 2012-04-14 11:57

      Julle bulle moet nog toer so hou op so excited kry as julle op die selfe punte as ons is aan log.

      Pierre - 2012-04-14 11:59

      Julle Bulle moet nog toer - maar geen slegte gevoelens nie, ek wens julle alles van die beste toe. Gee nie om wie die beker vat nie, solank dit 'n SA span is.

  • springbokke - 2012-04-14 11:40

    A loss , but well played Stormers. Ignore this loss, it's ''old washing'' , past tense, You are still up there with the best. Again , well played.....[ from an avid Bull supporter.]...

  • Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 11:41

    Cant believe the way the Stormers played... far too much kicking. Some strange replacement decisions.. Fourie for Etsebeth, when Carr is a specialist loosie. and switching brok to loosehead.. what the heck!!! Carr showed when he came on how good he is.. Anyway we have a game against the Reds that we should see off.

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 14:27

      Cockloos.. you so wish!

  • LeonTheShark - 2012-04-14 11:42

    Matclh officialls a joke rugby a game of cheat worse than wrestling

  • Rich - 2012-04-14 11:49

    The Crusaders are building nicely after their typical slow start. Lots of people making comments on here lately saying that The Crusaders don't have what it takes anymore. One bloke even stated that he thought that DC's defence was suspect - since when? The Crusaders will be there at the end. Ridiculous yellow cards.

  • tony.kirby1 - 2012-04-14 11:50

    Notice how the Kiwi crowd bood and made a lots of noise with band instuments. So it must be those crucader fans at Newlands that do the booing at Newlands.

      Raymond - 2012-04-14 12:45

      Yeah! Booing is one thing; but blasting instruments right behind the kicker. Disgraceful!

      Terence - 2012-04-14 13:01

      Tony you are an idiot. Did you hear the booing between the Stormers and the Bulls 2 weeks ago? I suppose that was Crusaders fans as well. If you can dish out, you must be able to take it as well.

      Blouvitrioel - 2012-04-14 14:26

      Tony, vasbyt min dae. Bul groete.

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 14:29

      I would also boo a team that filled wif so many ladyboys and wear pink outfits.. Getting in touch the their feminine self I suppose

      Andrew - 2012-04-14 14:56

      @Terence. Don't be a clown. Just because there is booing at one team's ground doesn't make it okay to boo at other grounds or when that team is playing away. Playing an instrument right behind a kicker when he's taking a kick, is that okay? Maybe we should also get some laser pointers and shine them in Morné Steyn's eyes when he kicks at Kingspark, because hey, that's what Bulls fans did to Lambie and if you dish it out you must be able to take it as well. We could even invade the pitch and punch the ref when it doesn't go our way (like in both Pretoria AND Durban in 2002). It's not as if the Stormers players are the ones booing, and it's not just them that get booed. Did you see the Burden get a bottle thrown at him yesterday versus the Blues or hear the crowds in some of the other games? It's the general crowd behaviour that's worrying, not just the Stormers, but you seem quite one-eyed and don't want to see that. I can guarantee you that most Stormers fans don't dish it out and think it's just as terrible as you do.

  • Riaan - 2012-04-14 12:05

    Trust tokolos to inject some class. Shame.

  • Keith - 2012-04-14 12:15

    Stormers supporters can still be proud.Our team lost;but I've expected this.Just hope the injuries are not serious. We will bounce back in the next weeks.

      Koos - 2012-04-14 12:18

      Soos die afgelope 10...11....12+ jare.

  • Steven Trollip - 2012-04-14 12:18

    tkolos is seker u bloubul tiepies

  • Stephan - 2012-04-14 12:36

    I'm really not that was obvious that the stormers was tired and not really up for the game. Against a quality and motivated side like the crusaders it just wasn't enough. But I know how good this stormers side is,and I know we'll bounce back,no excuses.

  • Stephan - 2012-04-14 12:37

    I'm really not that was obvious that the stormers was tired and not really up for the game. Against a quality and motivated side like the crusaders it just wasn't enough. But I know how good this stormers side is,and I know we'll bounce back,no excuses.

      Kobus - 2012-04-14 14:27

      Two more refs graduating from Niew Zealand academy of cheats. Bryce must be on a serious recruitment drve.LOL

  • Stephan - 2012-04-14 12:37

    I'm really not that was obvious that the stormers was tired and not really up for the game. Against a quality and motivated side like the crusaders it just wasn't enough. But I know how good this stormers side is,and I know we'll bounce back,no excuses.

  • Stephan - 2012-04-14 12:37

    I'm really not that was obvious that the stormers was tired and not really up for the game. Against a quality and motivated side like the crusaders it just wasn't enough. But I know how good this stormers side is,and I know we'll bounce back,no excuses.

  • Trevor - 2012-04-14 12:38

    From a Stormers supporter: Crusaders deserved to win. Stormers gave away too many kickable penalties. Ref's mistakes went both ways, so cannot blame the ref for the loss. Now GO CHEETAHS! Beat those Chiefs!

      Shoosh - 2012-04-14 12:51

      And go LIONS beat those pink Bulls

  • martin.gee.godfrey - 2012-04-14 12:46

    Personally I care little for either the Stormers or the Crusaders but I have to say that the refereeing today was again rubbish and it was equally rubbish both ways with the Saders probably getting the better rub of the green. The same happened yesterday in the Sharks game. The Sharks scored from a knock forward that wasn't seen by the ref and the Blues got away with not throwing the ball in straight in the line-outs on more than one occasion. The laws of the game have become so technical now, with refs being allowed to interpret as they see fit. To me, a rule is a rule and there should be no interpretation. Poor reffing is spoiling the great game of rugby and needs to be sorted out!

      Raymond - 2012-04-14 13:03

      The whole interpretation of the rules is questionable. An example being the penalty that Kholisi conceded under the post. Granted; he had wondered off-side and therefore penalisable. However, when he realised it, he stepped back and then had no influence on the subsequent play (from being off-side). Not sure that that should be 3 points. It makes a mockery of the game.

  • Jayson - 2012-04-14 12:55

    Come on guys. Listen to yourselves. We are all South Africans here. And should stand by whatever team is playing. Whether it be Stormers, Bulls sharks whatever,,, we are playing teams from another nation. However the Currie cup is a different story. Let's just enjoy the game.

      Koos - 2012-04-14 13:06

      Dis nie die Drie nasies nie. Dis 'n 'klub' kompetisie. Sorry, ek kan net my span ondersteun en miskien die ander spanne wat my span kan help. Dis maar taai tye boet.

      Jayson - 2012-04-14 13:34

      Koos. I really do admire your passion and commitment to you team. What I was trying to get at was,, I would rather have that trophy here in South Africa than have it somewhere in New Zealand..

  • shaun.meintjies - 2012-04-14 13:32

    @ Shoosh, Auckland Blues is the only team to win the tournament without losing a game. Guess who’s the idiot? Stormers missed Schalk and Flow today at breakdowns........It's just a slip and not a fall. STORMERS!!!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 14:15

      It's a slip and then a tumble after that. Reds are waiting for you!!!

      Stormkaap - 2012-04-14 14:34

      Cockloos.. you are so wishing the Stormers lose all their upcoming games.. And Shuan, Flo is a distant memory.. AC/Proudfoot made an error in playing Fourie instead of Carr. Fourie gifted Saders 6 points from penalties.. Poor decisions by the coaches

      shaun.meintjies - 2012-04-14 14:36

      Tokolos looking forward to the clash with the Reds.......

      Tokolos - 2012-04-14 14:59

      I will rather support Mamelodi Sundowns than the Stormers. It's more entertaining.

  • MrThreeZeroFive - 2012-04-14 13:41

    When iz the incredible Schalk comin back 2the cape side? On his bad day he can easyly make it 2 any top rugby side. Stomers take this on the bum...

  • Clive - 2012-04-14 14:05

    As a neutral, I have to say that losing your two locks in the first quarter of the game would have demoralised many teams, so to push the Crusaders all the way was a big achievement. I would like to know whose decision it was to remove Liebenberg from the front row - it unsettled the scrum. Please, Stormers fans, don't become like Bulls supporters and blame the ref whenever your team loses.

  • Saffa - 2012-04-14 15:16


      Lance - 2012-04-14 18:57

      See the Klippies n coke is in good effect. Great vocabulary..

      Saffa - 2012-04-14 19:06

      Thanks Lance, I just can't get over how funny it is. The 16th yr in a row you make the same mistake, tell us in April how THIS YEAR you gonna win the cup. Well, 16yr cupless it is JOKERS OF WORLD RUGBY

  • Ockie - 2012-04-14 15:16

    Sorry Stormers. Tough one. The Crusaders were the better team on the day. The good thing about losing, is that you have to take a good look at things that need to be improve and you should sharpen the attack. Defence is good, but attack needs improvement. With all those stars in the backline, you should be able to do better.

      Franklyn - 2012-04-14 15:24

      Devilliers is not a good attacking center,he is strong but dosnt have that explosive pace to hit the gap,we have great attacking backs in broken play,but we still arnt creative enough....our forwards are awesome-no worries there.

      Lance - 2012-04-14 18:53

      Losing our top two locks didn't help either..had they been on the field we might have won this one. Nobody is invincible, not even the blue and white men of steel.

      Saffa - 2012-04-14 19:07

      @Lance As you MIGHT HAVE won the title the last 16hr BWA HA HA HYA HYA HA HA

      Saffa - 2012-04-14 19:08


      Lance - 2012-04-15 07:11

      @ Saffa..atleast we played a more interesting brand of rugby as what the Bulls did against the Saders..on the whole the Stormers are a more fluid team..and. Please forgive me I sinned..I was a S'african and was 100% behind the Bulls when they played the Saders. Hopefully you will learn to keep the provincial rivaly alive and the chirps flowing when the Bulls/ Stormers play..and become a S'african and support the log leaders they play foreign teams..maybe you've never been out of Pretoria, so I forgive you..

  • Saffa - 2012-04-14 15:25

    First time we see a neutral ref and there goes the poor idiotic Stompies. You also lost to the Sharks, Lions and Bulls, just disgusting refereeing saved you there. Kry vir julle, LET THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL BEGIN!! 17yr and counting

  • Justin Lisa Reeves - 2012-04-14 16:48

    @tokolos you and your "chommies " going to smoke some crack tonight and indulge in a bit of tik.just wondering !!!

      Saffa - 2012-04-14 17:58

      @Justin The highest incidence of Tik world wide is in the Western Cape ou mofkop. Groete vir Lisa (vra vir haar of sy vir Paul onthou)

  • Justin Lisa Reeves - 2012-04-14 21:05


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