Coetzee snubs Boks for WP

2012-02-20 07:41

Cape Town - Stormers and Western Province head coach Allister Coetzee has signed a new contract to stay in Cape Town until 2015 and has turned down the opportunity to join Heyneke Meyer’s new Springbok coaching staff, according to Eyewitness News.

This will be confirmed by the union on Monday afternoon.

Coetzee, a former assistant with the national team under Jake White, was thought to be a candidate for the top job before losing out to Meyer.

It is understood that he was approached by the former Bulls director of coaching to join his staff but after lengthy consideration, declined.

This latest move will then see the coaching team of Coetzee, Robbie Fleck and Matthew Proudfoot remain in place and is a welcomed boost ahead of their Super Rugby season opener against the Hurricanes at Newlands on Saturday.


  • Jay - 2012-02-20 07:48

    Excellent news, he achieved exactly nothing with Province

      jandreleroux - 2012-02-20 08:06

      I remember all the complaints about how unpatriotic the Bulls were when they were difficult about letting Meyer out of his contract. Will the same now be said about mister Coetzee?

      hvanderlinde - 2012-02-20 08:19

      Jan... REALLY? don't you see the difference? Wait obviously not, the difference is that Meyer wanted to go and the bulls didn't want to release him from his contract. Coetzee doesn't want to go. WPRU had nothing to do with it, it was clearly a personal decision.

      bernard.ingram - 2012-02-20 08:37

      Clearly jan, you do not know what the phrase "being patriotic to one's country" means!

      John - 2012-02-20 08:54

      What he did achieve was 2nd in the S15. He won the SA conference and made the semi final. More than any other coach did in 2011. Did you follow last years S15???

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 08:55

      Here we go again. Conference cup. Any little boy's dream.

      Koos - 2012-02-20 09:06

      @ John wow that is such a huge achievement hey!!!!

      Pierre - 2012-02-20 09:07

      “Exactly nothing” can only be associated with Perth. It is better to lose in the final than not reaching the final in the first place.

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 09:21

      @hvanderlinde- hansie jou ou skerp poef...ons hie-boe, wil jelle haasbekke doe onne inni kap, net jelp!...Heineke- dis nou ons hoof bok afrigter- wou NIE di job gehad het NIE. inteendeel hy het ni eers aansoek gedoen nie. So hy wou ni 'go' ni! hulle het sy gai gelek om bok rugby uit hierdie GAT te kom red, ne! Dis nou di haasbek coaches doe onne vanni kap, wat di arme bokke di afgelope jare opge#$^% het tot in hierdi GAT. stekte weepee, viri moeilitje djaar wa voole....

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 09:41

      @pierre- remember old boyki, second place.. is always the first loser??

      Nick - 2012-02-20 09:48

      Jay - howzit meneer! EXACTLY - he achieved nothing with WP or the Stormers - in fact - has a litany of brain-fart decisions through his career - like when he subbed Gio Aplon for Naqelavuki 5 minutes from the end of the Currie Cup semi-final vs the Blue Bulls at Newlands in 2009 - when Gio was having the defensive game of his life, and WP were leading by a point - only for the useless, useless Naqelavuki to give away the penalty with a high tackle - for Morne Steyn to kick over and win the game for the Blue Bulls - who went on to win the Currie Cup that year... A WP win would've meant a home Final vs Free State, and quite likely on form at the time - a long, long-awaited WP Currie Cup triumph... Alas - another Coetzee brain-fart. Coetzee is a fraud.

      hvanderlinde - 2012-02-20 09:56

      Hoo: Ek bly in Centurion ou. Jy pull nogal die hele kaapse manier van praat though lmga

      Jason - 2012-02-20 10:09

      @Nick, wrong Jay but howzit dude. I couldnt disagree with you more ;) I think his results last year prove he is a good coach. Let this season be the decider regarding a linch mob!

      Marcell - 2012-02-20 10:27

      Smaak my jy is 'n tipiese WeePee ondersteuner. Check ons die jaar.

  • Comrade - 2012-02-20 07:50

    Alister who?

      Lionel - 2012-02-20 07:58

      Assistant World Cup winning coach,thats who!!!!!!!!

      Bootman - 2012-02-20 08:52

      @Brannas Geen twyfel, die Stormers speel Vodacom volgende jaar

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 08:57

      Wel Brannas, hulle sal actually n kans staan om n cup te wen as hulle in die Vodacom cup speel.

  • mengelbrecht1 - 2012-02-20 07:53

    Another crappy misleading headline

      Lunga - 2012-02-20 09:00

      What's wrong with the headline? Please, enlighten us.

      Deon - 2012-02-20 12:07

      Nothing wrong with the headline: "after lengthy consideration, declined it" Probably less money offered than his current job?

  • Bootman - 2012-02-20 07:56

    Good move Allister. They're just just looking for someone of colour to blame when things go wrong. First loss and it will be "It's because of quota assistant coach Coetzee"

      Papa-storm - 2012-02-20 08:02

      i agree

      Marcell - 2012-02-20 08:20

      Is dít hoekom die WeePee so lanklaas 'n kompetisie kon wen?

      hvanderlinde - 2012-02-20 08:21

      The head coach has ultimate responsibility, no matter who he has as assists. You two should be given the boot pappa for being stupid

      Bootman - 2012-02-20 08:53

      @fake Bootman And the good thing is he'll make sure the Stormers go another cupless decade

  • Ben - 2012-02-20 07:58

    Rassie already left. Right decision.

      Danie - 2012-02-20 11:51

      agreed :)

  • Lionel - 2012-02-20 08:02

    Allister has already achieved eveything as a World Cup assistant winning coach,so why would he want to be a assistant again.......... but then again your country does come first!!!!Not with the case of the Bulls who tried to keep Meyer at all costs!!!!

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 08:08

      Hi Lionel, if the Stormers/WP had a winning coach, you would've understoods where the Bulls were coming from.

      Lionel - 2012-02-20 08:22

      Morning Dozey or should I say Evening to you!! I understand where the Bulls are coming from but country comes first and by the way I think Meyer already knew the Bulls spiral to the bottom of the log was about to begin now that Vic and some of the boys have left. We will see the true colours of the Bulls this season without Meyer!!!

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 09:05

      No Lionel, it's morning. 02h00 to be exact. Not always office hours for me. No downward spiral. Heyneke se laaitie, Frans, gaan die ding doen.

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 09:25

      @lionel- ag ou lionel, jys reg, "country comes first"!- BLUE BULL COUNTRY!!!!!!!!! and that is the whole country...

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 09:35

      Mamma moet maar vir n paar dae haar eie boudjies warm hou. Soos ek sê, dis nie altyd office hours vir my nie.

      Bames - 2012-02-20 09:40

      Lionel, Coetzee as assistant to White was a political one, read Jakes book. When Coetzee was at EP he completely effed up everything at that union, its a fact, go check it out for yourself. Everything WP has achieved over the last 3 years were all thanks to the vision and brilliance of Rassie. WP has some serious issues and it won't be long before the wheels start coming off.

  • Gershwin - 2012-02-20 08:03

    please man he never snubbed the boks he just turned down the job get your headline correct

      Ben - 2012-02-20 08:23

      At last Gershwin. Perspective.

      Lunga - 2012-02-20 08:27

      Does "snub" not mean "turning someone down"?

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 09:28

      @Lunga- pls man, educate these haasbekke down under.

  • jandreleroux - 2012-02-20 08:05

    I remember all the complaints about how unpatriotic the Bulls were when they were difficult about letting Meyer out of his contract. Will the same now be said about mister Coetzee?

      bernard.ingram - 2012-02-20 08:40

      Jan: Country before Province man!

  • Annelise - 2012-02-20 08:15

    Would have loved to see some new blood in WP. Nothing against Coetzee, but nothing in the trophy cabinet either after plenty of seasons!

      Marcell - 2012-02-20 08:23

      Ek dink nie dis 'n geval dat die ondersteuners hom nie wou laat gaan nie. Sy werk is nog nie voltooi nie. Die WeePee moet afskuif B liga toe, nes hy met OP gemaak het.

      steyts - 2012-02-20 09:09

      I agree, I believe our head coach doesn't have a knack for spotting talent and keeping it in the province!! Sadie, Engelbrecht, etc etc.. Then he also goes and buys players that are past their expiry date!! New coach please! WP can definitely afford a new coach and some world class front rowers!!

      Shistirrer - 2012-02-20 09:26

      @Marcell: Ten minste is die Glam Guru se werk voltooi by die Pink Bulls.

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 10:29

      Shis, daai grappie was Saterdag snaaks.

      Francois - 2012-02-20 12:54

      Dit was rassie wat talent uit kaap uit laat gaan het; nie allister nie!!

      Shistirrer - 2012-02-20 13:21

      Buldosie, daai grappie gaan nog die hele seisoen snaaks wees :D

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 15:38

      @francois- die enigste talent wat uit di kaap "laat gaan is", was ou rassie hom selwers, ne!

  • Christopher - 2012-02-20 08:28

    He is just a bit peeved off he did not get the Springboks head coaching job...

      Koos - 2012-02-20 09:08

      Agree 100%

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-02-20 08:37

    Province before country. Pathetic. Clearly in the P. Divvie category. No big loss, our Boks do not need a coach that does not know how to win a tournament!

      bernard.ingram - 2012-02-20 08:41

      As head coach, what has he achieved? Nothing. As assistant coach he won the world cup, and he does not want to do it again? He does not want to learn from the best, he thinks he is the best.

  • Bootman - 2012-02-20 08:51

    That's good, rather keep screwing up the useless Stomers for another decade than doing it to the Boks

  • Christie - 2012-02-20 08:55

    AC will not fit into the dynamics of the current coaching setup. Heyneke Meyer will seek the assistance of Rassie Erasmus and I do not think that Rassie and AC is the best of mates. He should stay with the Capetonians seeing that Province and Allister are both developing entity's.

  • grantpringle - 2012-02-20 08:55

    very very happpy!!

  • Winston - 2012-02-20 09:05

    it's all about sour grapes because he didn't get the job he was hoping for and so now you can really test how sincere and geniune he is about the sport by judging him on his performance through this season.

  • Jason - 2012-02-20 09:12

    He has reached a stage in his career where he is a head coach, why should he take a step backwards would Meyer have accepted the position to work under Alister doubt it. Alister has done a great job with the Stormers 2nd overall in super 15 log last year.

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 09:18

      2nd Overall. That's very good. Still no cups, though.

      Koos - 2012-02-20 09:28

      WOW!!! What a achievement 2nd means nothing if you can't win a Super trophy

      Jason - 2012-02-20 09:37

      When it comes to the knock out stages 1 bad game and you gone, teams that come 4th or now even 6th can win it. The log gives you an indication of how well you played over the course season. Anyway Meyer's only super 15 trophy was, Habana's brilliance in the dying moments when the Sharks seem to have it rapped up "Well done to the bulls but it shows you how easily he might have had nothing"!

      Jason - 2012-02-20 09:54

      Also quickly go look at Meyer's super rugby record 12th, 6th,3rd,4th and 1st. Then resigned from the Bulls because he believed Jake would getting fired and he was getting the job. Allister's record 2nd 2nd... now to say well he has no trophy's come on!

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 10:13

      No trophy. There. You happy?

      Jason - 2012-02-20 10:22

      LOL your argument is silly no trophy's doesn't make someone a bad coach, runners up in the toughest rugby competition in the world is hardly a disgrace. Also remember that Meyer's win in the super rugby competition came when New Zealand rested all its star players for most of the competition.

      Koos - 2012-02-20 11:07

      @ Jason come on the Stormers took over the chokers tag from the Sharks.

      Jason - 2012-02-20 13:59

      Nitro I agree but doesn't mean Allister is a bad coach, he has done a good job at the stormers, Stormers had always had the players and always under-performed, he has turned them into a top side, missing out the trophy "choking" well tough competition ...

  • jmtostee - 2012-02-20 09:25

    Neither Heineke Meyer or Alister Coetzee made the finals for the Super 14 or the Currie cup last year perhaps some fresh new International blood like John Mitchell - who did win the silverware with pretty much only underdog payers versus all the "big name players " in his team - would have been a better bet for coach anyway?Just saying...

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 09:30

      Heyneke Meyer didn't coach any Super rugby or Currie cup teams last year. Just saying...

  • Frans - 2012-02-20 09:35

    Shame jay wake up and find how many things have changed while you were asleep.I don't normally react to the utterings of idiots but just thought i could'nt let this one slip past.

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 09:42

      Maybe if you commented in the right area, your blabbering would've had an effect.

  • Frans - 2012-02-20 09:40

    Bootman, wat gaan jy doen as jy eendag groot is?

  • hudds - 2012-02-20 09:43

    I guess with that staff line-up they just going to have another campaign of disappointment..

  • Hoo - 2012-02-20 10:12

    Yes yes yes, Allis-in wonderland-ster, stays!! check ons vogende djaaar!!!

  • Keith - 2012-02-20 11:21

    Bulldozer that's precisely the point and we forget that we are damaging the image of the majority of good natured rugby supporters across the racial spectrum. Progressive critique is always good;but when one is clearly bias in your assessment of coaches it becomes bad. I'm rally worried that we're eroding the tremendous strides that we've made to make rugby the people's sport. History will judje us harshly if we don't stop with this tendency.

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 11:24

      Too many big words for me to make sense of what you've just said.

  • Keith - 2012-02-20 11:43

    Bulldozer vriend in simpel taal kom ons geniet ons rugby ongeag wie die coach is. Kom ons ondersteun die manne in charge en as hulle misvat kritiseer ons hulle met waardigheid. Kom ons maak van rugby die werklike people's sport ;waar ons met trots ons Springboktrui kan dra.

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 11:54

      @keith- te veel groot woorde, my vriend. maak dit meer eenvoudig EN reg, soos bv. "Bulle gaan die ander spanne di' jaar roer.." of "Die bulle is 2012 en verder se kampioen span.." of "Bulle speel briljante rugby.." So iets, as jy verstaan wat ons bedoel-maar hou dit net asb net eenvoudig??danki

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-20 11:59

      Keith, ek geniet juis my rugby meer terwyl Allister die Stormers coach is.

  • Keith - 2012-02-20 12:13

    Kleingeestigheid kan 'n siekte wees nes bek-en-klouseer. of die Bulle wen;of dit die Stormers of enige van ons franchises is ;is 'n bysaak solank Suid-Afrikaanse rugby weer net aan ons almal behoort is vir my belangrik.My oupa het my goeie buurmanskap geleer-so ek is proudly Suid-Afrikaans.

  • Keith - 2012-02-20 12:29

    Hoo Afrikaans is my geboortereg en ek verkoop dit nie maklik vir lensiesop nie. Die hartseer is dat Afrikaanses nie mekaar 'n plekkie in die son gun nie.

  • Jody - 2012-02-20 12:40

    Thank goodness AC snubbed the Boks. That is one bullet Heynecke has dodged.WP to remain with empty trophy case.

  • Jeremy - 2012-02-20 12:44

    What a crap headline? Why is it a snub if he is HEAD coach at WP and is going to move into a supporting role with the Boks. He's been there before and has made a decision that is clearly best for him. He's more likely to retain his job at WP as well!

  • Johan - 2012-02-20 12:50

    that is TERRIBLE new for WP! Terrible coach who knows nothing about rugby...he is a FOOL!! good luck to WP!

      Jason - 2012-02-20 15:56

      Think you need to look the terrible up and fool up.. because you so far off the mark Johan.. Terrible is the record Lions coaches have had over the past decade..

  • bernhard.b.baatjies - 2012-02-20 14:24

    thats what i like a WP Rugby .. player for life!! coach for life!!! still have the best CC record still have the most dedicated players.Well done Allister , Hyneke is a good coach anyway , and im sure if you thought that your not joining him would compromise our countries chances you would of moved in with HM...Good call AC..its better to lose in a WP jersey than to win in any other one ;-) ..

  • dipesh.parbhoo - 2012-02-20 14:28

    I guess if Heyneke Meyer wants him as an assistant then there must be something to him. Meyer only wants the best!

      Hoo - 2012-02-20 17:31

      @dipesh- you have to remember, politics are everywhere in SA and its like the devil- they always wants to arrange things now, to mess it up later.anc&aa have a hand in this??

  • Frik - 2012-02-20 15:43

    Dis belangrik dat AC hierdie jaar iets wen by die WP, hy het nou sy kans gehad. Enige coach se coaching kurwe moet opwaarts wees! Ek vermoed egter hy gaan oor 'n jaar ontnugter wees soos Rassie en loop. Die probleem is dan sal niemand hom will vat nie want hy het niks reggekry by die WP nie. Hy sou beter af gewees het as hy pos by die bokke gevat het.

  • Heinrich - 2012-02-21 11:52

    He has been second at the national squad ..... He might be first at the Stormers, but the team still remains second. ..... or is that third eh?

  • whusselmann - 2012-02-21 21:41

    I understand Coetzee will now be the guy making the decisions on contracting players.He absolutely has to find us a proper tighthead.The young guns is the future.Brock Harris is stil a promising player,very good for the reserve bench.A real tough son of a gun,mean who cleans his teeth with steel nails and scare the hell out of normal props and is as strong as an elephant.If he does not attempt to recruit someone like this,we can keep on dreaming about trophies for another decade.

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