Bulls stars ready for Sharks

2011-06-15 08:02

J.J. Harmse

Pretoria - Bakkies Botha is ready. Fourie du Preez is ready. And, says Pierre Spies, he is ready to come up with a big performance on Saturday when the Bulls and Sharks meet at Loftus Versfeld.

It's both teams' final group match in the Vodacom Super Rugby tournament and they have exactly the same number of log points.

Botha and Du Preez have recovered from knee injuries and should be in the squad that Bulls coach Frans Ludeke will announce on Wednesday. Spies, who has played in all 15 the Bulls' games, is also running around energetically.

The No 8 was written off by numerous critics earlier in the season and slammed for is form, but has been playing like the 40-Test veteran that he is for the past month. He simply has to be in the Springboks' World Cup plans.

Spies does not refer to that precise moment, but it was probably in the 48th minute of the Bulls' game against the Chiefs at Loftus Versfeld where things suddenly fell in place for him.

Coincidence or not, a number of things also started falling in place for several of his team-mates and since then the Bulls have not been beaten in Super Rugby.

That is when Spies scored his first (and to date only) try of the season after about 770 minutes of Super Rugby.

Everything was just easier and more fun after that, the country's leading No 8 admitted after Tuesday's Bulls training session ahead of the decisive match against the Sharks.

It's a case of winner takes all and loser probably getting nothing, but the 26-year-old loose forward still regards the past six games as a highlight. And that is why his team-mates could again expect an energetic performance.

"You definitely enjoy your rugby more when you win. So I have to admit that the past six weeks have been a lot more fun than that first part of the season when things just did not go our way," said Spies.

Even so, he cannot put his finger on what went wrong in the Bulls' initial onslaught, which has led to them having to win a seventh successive game to make the play-offs.

"Quite rightly there were high expectations, especially as we achieved milestones in 2009 and 2010. It's difficult to say why things didn't work out for us."

On a personal level there were also questions about Spies's form and he was not satisfied himself. He believes criticism was justified.

"Criticism is part of the game and based on what happened the previous two seasons people could probably not be blamed for not liking what they saw.

"But I'm satisfied with the way things are going now and believe we could produce a good performance on Saturday. The Sharks are worthy opponents and don't give anything away, so we will definitely have to stamp down our authority."

Bulls team for Sharks:

15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Jaco Pretorius, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Dewald Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling.
Subs: 16 Gary Botha, 17 Rossouw de Klerk, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Danie Rossouw, 20 Fourie du Preez, 21 Francois Brummer, 22 Akona Ndungane.


  • watalife - 2011-06-15 08:09

    Go Sharks...Take them apart and make your supporters proud...

      Sport-24 - 2011-06-15 08:15

      Morning,Gooinat here-this is going to be a cracker of a game,I think the Bulls must not get ahead of themselves,this Sharks side played crap last week and will want to up there performance,Sharks by 8 and the Bulls can start preparing for the CC!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 08:19

      Jy is soos die beker wat die stompies gaan wen.

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-15 08:25

      Go Sharks!!!!! Go Stormers!!!!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 08:48

      Give it your best shot

      amloclam - 2011-06-15 08:49

      Go Cheetahs!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:04

      @Gooinat - all I know is, Saturday is going to be one helluva day of rugby, from early morning, until 8pm when the Baby Boks game against the Poms starts......This weekend is truly 'kid before Xmas' time.

      Sport-24 - 2011-06-15 09:08

      @Saffa,morning,yes indeed it is,the house chores will be completed tomorrow then its sport the weekend,eksdom played up again last night,I missed the Baby Boks game,I believe we won,any players stand out????Whats your take on this story about Sadie going up North????

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:19

      @Gooinat - Sadly we are going to lose a few of our up and coming stars, as we can't possibly keep them all. I would keep Juan de Jongh over Sadie if it comes down to a choice between the 2. I'm not sure if I would fork out all that money to get Hougaard back either. Young Schreduer is a brilliant scrummie and he should be No2 behind Dewald. Dewald because of his value at 9 and 10 stays No 1 IMHO. The Baby Boks: well the Cape contingent as usual were MASSIVE. Eben is quite literally 'head and shoulders' above most at the tournie. Nazaam Carr (flank) was incredible last night, and Kolisi was great on Friday night. I feel we will lose a few of these kids as well...we MUST hang on to Eben though, at ALL costs. The Baby boks played an expansive game last night (totally diff to their plan for Scotland), and Goosen at 10 really shone! We should buy him from Free State NOW. :)

      Sport-24 - 2011-06-15 09:25

      Thanks Saffa,you think Habana should be contracted again?????

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:39

      @Gooinat - not a chance. They must let him go to Toulon (They are apparently hunting him) He must go - leaving us the additional cash to retain more of our young players :)

      Markis - 2011-06-15 09:42

      Never forget, its every springboks dream to become a Bull.. Enough said

      Sport-24 - 2011-06-15 09:43

      @Saffa,my thoughts exactly!!!!!!!

      KakSak - 2011-06-15 16:22

      Go Brumbies!!!

  • Marcell - 2011-06-15 08:14

    Spies jou yster!

      MaestroX - 2011-06-15 10:34

      More like rusty mild steel if you ask me, strong but useless

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 13:07

      Mild Steel is ook yster!

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-16 11:01

      Spies = USELESS

  • Marcell - 2011-06-15 08:17

    Dis die A-Team! Me like it when a plan comes together! Bulls by 16!

      Sport-24 - 2011-06-15 08:25

      Watter een van die A-team is jy,Mal Murdoch!!!!!!!!!

      WPBEFONK - 2011-06-15 08:26

      Sharks by 15+++G Sharks !! Go Stomers !!

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 08:38

      Sport-24, Jy is net so oorspronklik soos die Stompies se spel patroon!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 08:47

      Hulle het nie n spel patroon nie

      watalife - 2011-06-15 09:32

      @Bloody Dom Agent The drop,skop & place will give you another big 0 like you got against the Sadrs remember? stop with the klippeis&pine nut so early.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 09:35

      Drop Skop en Place = 3 Super,5 Currie cup,7 Vodacups in 10 years ,pretty much sums it up

      watalife - 2011-06-15 09:53

      With Drop,Skop & place no CC-2010... Drop,Skop & place No Vodacom Cup 2011...Drop,skop & place no S15 Cup yet..Drop,skop & place no Tri-nations 2010....Do you think they will take the WC with your drop,skop & place????

      Kevin - 2011-06-15 12:29

      Sharks will surprise . They owe the bulls a hiding. Here it comes

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-06-15 08:21

    5...4...3...2....1.....i am waiting for SAFFA-CAT to have say something about spies i can feel it it's coming.......

      Neo - 2011-06-15 08:29

      It's sad to see Spies doing the talking off the field .... got so much potential but just don't have that killer instinct and heart!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 08:43

      HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO MUZI :) I have said all I am going to say about Spies this season, as it is clear he will start at 8 for the Boks regardless. All I say is: Spies is NOT a conventional 8th man, but he is going to HAVE to play like a conventional 8 in the World Cup. Can he do that? In the Bulls structure, Pierre is allowed to play towards his strengths, in the BOK structures he won't have this luxury. SO: on the wet, heavy tracks in Kiwiland, playing 10 man rugby with a reliance on defence and forward brutality and domination, Pierre will have find something he has never had before: "a desire to physically dominate". If he has to be part of the Bok setup, start him from the bench, once the 'physical battle' has already been won. Just remember, we already have Matfield and John Smit in the forwards, neither of them are brutal players - add Spies to that, and all it means, is the OTHER forwards are going to have to work so much harder. Now ARNO BOTHA, that is a Bulls 8th man I can live with.

      Marx - 2011-06-15 09:32

      Saffa, on the Brutality subject....the Bulls are known in World Rugby as one of the most physical sides out there, ask any and I mean any coach on the planet, and that's the first thing you'll hear. You're such a expert on physicality in rugby, how many games have you played against Spies and Matfield to have any opinion on what they do on the field??

      Brannas - 2011-06-15 09:41

      I wish the Springbok selectors wants to wake up now and recognize the exceptional talent in some individuals. I will make Yster Spies captain of the Boks and Wynand Olivier Vice Captain to give direction to the backline, only then will they be able to win the World Cup.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:45

      @Marx - don't be petulant. You know exactly what I am saying. And in your heart, you agree with it. Victor is the "brains" Bakkies is the "brawn". You have not watched much rugby in your life if you believe Matfield to be an "enforcer" type player. Ditto for Spies! Spies is NOT a traditional enforcing 8th man - if you think he is, you have been watching Mini-rugby for far 2222222222 long. The Bulls physicality works because of the structure in the TEAM. Which is why someone like Spies struggles outside the Bulls setup - the Bok flanks do not afford him the protection he enjoys in the Bulls setup. If you can't see this, you know very little.

      radar - 2011-06-15 12:54

      @Brannas - or is that Banana's for Brains!!

      Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-06-15 15:09

      Spies can bench press a truck, run through walls and has huge biceps to match BUT can he play rugby? He looked mediocre against WP with Botha and Danie "protecting" him. I think he'll be exposed as "The great pretender" when Alberts puts him in his place!

      René Müller - 2011-06-15 15:37

      Rob, You clearly missed the Sharks / Bulls game a couple of weeks ago! I certainly cannot recall Alberts having any effect of Spies! I do rate Alberts, I rate Spies more, that is my biased opinion!

      chrismtb007 - 2011-06-15 15:41

      @ Saffa Cat, go ask Mullett face Andries park bench Bekker what he thinks of your statements about Victor, he will have a few things to rectify in your dream world after last saturday!!

  • Grunk - 2011-06-15 08:22

    This is where the Stats are misleading. Spies (and Habana) both had considerably better games this last weekend than they have had for a long time and they would have shown about 500% more running metres than their opponents but literally half of their runs/mistakes resulted in the opposition gaining an ultimate substantial advantage because of turnovers given away. This is why using a Boxing scoring method where the counter punch is as important as the first punch, both ended up as actually being the losers against the opponents they were being measured against(Vermeulen and Basson).

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 08:54

      Exactly @Grunk. Stats mean ZERO without context. I have tried to explain this a chap like old Krugga - but to NO avail. Based on the stats for the Bulls/Stormers game, the Stormers should have WALKED it.

      Wagga - 2011-06-15 09:19

      Morning( your side of the world) SAFFA... For the sake of SA rugby, I hope your team will be ready and up to it this weekend, but my heart still stays with the Cheetahs. The Stormers will have to be very carefull because the Cheetahs got nothing to lose and they will want to prove something. I think the Stormers is in for a hell of a game. Good luck.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:48

      Morning Wagga :) Hope you are well mate! Your boys will want to end with a bang........and the Stormers know it. All of the rugby on Saturday is going to be incredible to witness. PS: if you watched the Baby Boks - there are some uber talented Baby Cheetahs in the setup. I hope you guys keep them!

      radar - 2011-06-15 13:01

      Be realistic Wagga. Cheetahs would have a chance of winning if Juan Smit, Brussouw and Steenkamp (lock) were playing. With Duvenage and Grant back in the saddle in key positions, Stormers will begin to flex their muscles as they make their move for the Super 15 title. Cheteahs great attacking game will be shutdown by Stormers Defence. And I am a Sharks supporter!!!

  • flat bier - 2011-06-15 08:23

    Is dit nou die Bull Stars???? Nog 'n nuwe borg? Wat doen Stars? Anyway hoop my kus maatjies klap die Stars dat hulle stars sien, sal so lekker wees. Vat hulle vas Bismarck!

      ARRA - 2011-06-15 09:00

      Is jou bier flat omdat jy nou eers ontwaak

  • WPBEFONK - 2011-06-15 08:24

    Go SHARKS Go!!!!!

      bullincapeto - 2011-06-15 10:47

      WPBEFONK You are so special. Put your money where your mouth is R5000 says the Bulls take it on Sat.Cheetahs are going to run the storm in a teacup team ragged as well

      Mrgreeky - 2011-06-15 12:11

      Eish boet (WPBEFONK) I ask again, are you not Balsak(Alias Blue Bull hater)? I miss that guy you both have a screw loose and I am certain it's the same screw. Just in case you did not know your "beloved Stormers" as you put it are playing down the road in a place called "Bloem" now run along and leave these nice folk (Sharks and bulls supporters" to throw mud at each other. Bye!

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-15 12:29

      Mrgreeky, he is BALSAK.

      Charlie - 2011-06-15 17:30

      WP BEFONK en BULLSBEVREES as jy my vra.......

      Mrgreeky - 2011-06-16 09:19

      Ace Ventura Was Balsak banned? That would mean that wpbefonk(I wont give him the respect of capital letters) is balsak trying to restrain himself.!! If I was WP rugby I would pay him to go away.

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-06-15 08:26

    Duene Vermuele the carthorse lol went missing in action last week no wonder they moved him to lock he has zero attacking abilities he is a defence machine like jaco pretorius an oh it's true he can not even score a try poor form indeed lol... You can all hate Pierre Spies as much as you want the fact is that he has booked himself a plane ticket to new zealand and may you all enjoy watching him play in the world cup. Go bulls!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 08:45

      @Muzi - read my answer above.....I predict many tears from Pierre's fans when he is found wanting in a knock out game in the WC. You know surely you must realise what the conditions in NZ require in terms of forwards?

      PrimeOptimus - 2011-06-15 08:55

      Muzi this is the worrying thing. Pierre seems to be the preferred 8th man, but yet his form has been average, to be polite about it. It is shocking to see how easily he is brought down by the defensive teams and he is basically no threat anymore. His defence has never been his strong point, but it seems to be getting even worse as his career is progressing. I would def look at Alberts, Kanko even Johnson before I pick Pierre in New Zealand.

      René Müller - 2011-06-15 09:26

      Hi Muzi, Pierre Spies does not have an equal on the rugby field! The people who hates him, clearly fears him. Say no more! Furthermore, I just read that Rene Ranger is not playing for the Blues on Saturday! That might just swing things to the Highlanders, me thinks. If that happens SA might just have 3 teams in the play-offs!!

      watalife - 2011-06-15 09:55

      Rene, you are the only person who thinks papier spies is so great after his lack luster performance 2010&2011..Is he family?

      Ace Ventura - 2011-06-15 10:29

      René, Pierre has got more Super & Currie cups than everybody in watalife's team combined. It's not woth arguing.

      MaestroX - 2011-06-15 10:44

      Muzi he will go to NZ, but not sure we will "enjoy" watching him, just not sure how effective he is going to be. Have to agree with Saffa, on hard fast fields, yip he is the man, although even on those types of fields there are facets of his game he could improve upon. I just wish he would show some guts and make a proper tackle just once in his life, I have never seen him knock anyone back in a massive hit, he tends to just catch, hold and fall. He has the potential to be a great no 8, just a pity he has a rather large yellow streak down his back.

      radar - 2011-06-15 13:08

      Spies has so many limitations - he was a winger when playing under 21 rugby. He had speed, but no hands and no kicking skills. He has fed himself copious amounts of steriods ( the reason for the long layoff - bogus story about his life threatening disease - it was merely a cooling off period from steriods). A prerequisite for an 8th man is varied skills and Spies does not rate amongst top 5 eight men in country. He looks reasonably good when playing witha dominnat pack like the bulls and Boks. Put him in a mediocre pack and he will be forever lost!! A Non contributor. Please wake up up all Spies fans - you ought to learn something about rugby before commenting!!!!!

      radar - 2011-06-15 13:12

      Spies has more cups than anyone lese - please it is the Bulls who have the cups of which Spies is one of 22 players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bulls have a great team and it is always easy to look good and win win when surrounded by class!!!!

      GraemeBB - 2011-06-15 18:14

      @Muzi - Spies doesnt need SAFFAS approval. I am shouting as hard as I can for the Bulls and Spies. Duanne has no X factor at all. We know he is going to get into off the ball scuffs, and make some tackles - nothing more, nothing less.

  • WPBEFONK - 2011-06-15 08:28

    My number 8's for the RWC is............................ Kanko, Duanne and Ashley Johnson. Spies is OVERRATED and a HAS BEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 08:34

      Ag nee man. Hoe kan jy dink Speis is 'n hasbeen? Hasbeens is spelers wat vir die Stompies speel. Ricky, Habana, Jantjes, Harris, Duene, en o ja, Burger is amper daar!

      Marx - 2011-06-15 08:49

      If Spies is a "Hasbeen" Then the Shêks are in for one hell of a afternoon !! Just tell me one thing, why are all the Stormer Groupies so obsessed with our players?? Jealousy maybe?? "Hasbeens" 19 Stormers 16.

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 09:03

      Die wereld gehalte span van die Slaapstad is deur 'n klomp hasbeens gewen. Wat maak dit die wereld gehalte span?

      TheWizard - 2011-06-15 09:05

      And you are still dreaming !!!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:06

      @Marx - not obsessed with your players mate, obsessed about the BOKS - and the impact some of your players will have in the WC. (In Spies's case - the NON impact)

      Marx - 2011-06-15 09:18

      So this article is about the Boks playing who this weekend??

      ARRA - 2011-06-15 09:29

      Saffa the game last saturday ,i believe you were there at Nuweland or what its called lately,I saw the game on widescreen ,to tell you the truth Spies handled the ball quite a few times with great success taking out 3 Stormer players out of play lost the ball only once in contact and if im not mistaken the Bulls got a penalty at that stage for the Stormers being offside ,Vermeulen and Louw( which name does not feature anywhere in this blogs) were none existent, never saw any off this worldclass loosies of the Stormers exept Shcalk doing anything worth mentioning ,take off the eyepatches and start being positive about Spies -he is still SAno one 8thman

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:51

      @Arra - I will support the man with all my heart when he runs out for the Boks. But it doesn't change my opinion of him as a player. If you chaps can convince Spies to find a PASSION for the physical stuff - he might move up a few notches. But sorry mate, the man lacks in 2 many crucial areas of conventional 8th man requirements for me to take him seriously.

      Corrie - 2011-06-15 11:04

      @Marx...NOT obsessed....IT'S A FETISH

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 11:48

      Spies is nes Skinstad. Ok, net baie beter!

  • Pieto Smith - 2011-06-15 08:29

    J.J HARMSE = "Bulls stars ready for Sharks", what about "Bulls starts vs. Sharks starts, the ultimate showdown".......Deysel and Alberts also ready just like Spies, dankie tog Smit is op bench en due du Plessis boeties is reg vir oorlog!!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 08:46

      Vuilgat Du plessis broers gaan weer elk 10 min op die kant sit

      Marcell - 2011-06-15 08:50

      Bloody Agent: Ek hoop net Kaplan kyk dat daai stutte van die Sardiens ordentlik bind en nie opstaan as die druk deurkom nie.

      ARRA - 2011-06-15 09:36

      Pieto they played against the Bulls in DURBS last time -maybe you have missed the game but the Bulls frontrow demolished the Sharks back then-Jannie dup most overrated ,but you must know something the rest off the people who saw the game dont

      Brannas - 2011-06-15 10:30

      @Marcell. Die probleem is dat die sharks nooit of baie selde n' wedstryd verloor as Kaplan blaas, hy sal baie streng teen die Bulls blaas en seker maak al die sharks se stafskoppe is in tref afstand, hy sal stafskoppe aan die Bulls gee maar net in hulle eie half gebied. Kaplan is seker die mees bias ref wat ek nog gesien het, hy besluit wie gaan wen en wie nie, Dit voorspel groot probleme vir die Bulls Saterdag

  • Carl Muller - 2011-06-15 08:33

    When Pierre touch the ball there are 3 guys that try and take him down. One cannot do it. Go Pierre............ Bulls forever.

      PrimeOptimus - 2011-06-15 08:44

      Fortunately for the other team, he will knock the ball before they get to him or lose it in the contact situation... I cannot see where his season has "come together". He has been playing pretty average rugby the whole season. I hope he lifts his game for the World Cup as he seems to be the preferred 8th man...

  • Aribs - 2011-06-15 08:36

    C'mon Sharks..!!! Bring these arrogant morons down to earth...3 point victory over the Stormers and they think they are all that...

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 08:45

      Could you please tell me how far did you win the Stormers this year?

      Aribs - 2011-06-15 09:11

      I'm sorry..your english is appalling...not surprising at all..

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 09:28

      Im sure you could understand my appaulling broken english now in stead of making yourself the grammar police answer my question.How far did the Sharks win the Stormers this year?

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 09:54

      Aribs,please tell me im waiting for the answer"How farv did the Sharks win the Stormers this year?

  • Sh@rks Fever - 2011-06-15 08:38

    Thanks for all the support Stormer supporters. Spies doen't worry me a bit. Danie Rossouw on the other hand is a tough opponent. Basson will once again be checked by the best wing in the country. We must stay away from the penalties and have runners to offload to when Alberts and Deysel takes the hit. If the Sharks can get their mentality right and actually look like wanting to win the game it will be an extremely bruising encounter as the bulls aren't huge on pressure. If they don't the consistency of the Bulls will pay off. They will pressure us into penalties and Steyn will slot them from anywhere.

      Grunk - 2011-06-15 08:41

      JPP blows too hot and cold and is definitely not fast enough to catch Basson

      Grunk - 2011-06-15 08:43

      I definitely agree with your comments about Roussoux (stand out player of the season?) and Spies though.

      Sh@rks Fever - 2011-06-15 09:00

      I again feel he is the most consistent wing in the country. He is strong and much faster than anyone thinks. In the Cheetahs game he ran in Sarel Pretorius very quick and Sarel Pretorius is no slouch. He also saved us on numerous occasions both the Sharks and the Springboks if you recall the 2007 world cup final. He has had a few injuries as of late, but in the last 3-4 games he has been excellent. And if you recall Basson didn't do much against him 3 weeks ago.

      Kevin - 2011-06-15 13:03

      Sharks only wake up in the second half. Lets play both halves and kick the bulls butt

      radar - 2011-06-15 13:19

      JP Pietersen and Lwazi Mvovo are two best wings in South Africa at the moment. Both fulfill all the requirements of a great wing - killer spped, strong and powerful, great defense, ability to kick ahead, vision and ability to read a game well, and interlink with team mates. Agreed Basson is awesome on attack, but defense is questionable at Test level against bigger and just as fast opponents!! Aplon is another who comes into strong consideration for BOK winger.

  • Nats - 2011-06-15 08:41

    oh how boring! I am yet to see this man show any "pace or strength" this season, except for the two or three paces he makes with the ball before being tackled and losing it. Looking forward to the game. May the best team take it!

  • Cobus - 2011-06-15 08:56

    Hoop net die Sharks los die bye in Durban die jaar!!! Loftus steek hard genoeg!!! Go Bulle!!!!

  • Hannes van der Linde - 2011-06-15 08:58

    Als goed en wel, maar is hulle reg vir Alberts en Deysel? ek weet nie jong

      Sport-24 - 2011-06-15 09:14

      Morning Hannes,last time these two sides met the Bulls forwards gave the Sharks a beating,I really don't think this will happen again,the Sharks know they need to improve after last weeks performance against the Lions.I for one am really looking forward to this game,Go Sharks!!!!!!!!!

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-06-15 09:36

      Me too, hopefully I can still get tickets at the gates. STORM VOORT!

      ARRA - 2011-06-15 09:38

      IS Alberts en Deysel reg vir hulle ,net soos die Stormers Louw Vermeulen en Burger was ,ek weet nie jong

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 10:56

      Waarnatoe Hannes

  • Gertie - 2011-06-15 09:10

    Die enigste ding wat ek geniet van die Blou Bul rugby is hulle sirkusnar. Ek hoop hy sorg weer vir n paar lagwekkende passies langs die veld Saterdag - die einste Heyneke Meyer.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:21

      Praat jy nie dalk van Wynie Strydom nie?

      René Müller - 2011-06-15 09:23

      Gertie, ek sien jy ken die mense by die BBRU baie goed. Die enigste nar is jy. Die man langs die veld is, ek gee jou 'n 'tip'... sy naam begin met W, en sy van met S. Probeer weer toe!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 09:30

      Renee jy het Gertie al verloor op "BBRU" en "nar"

      acdc bulls - 2011-06-15 10:19

      Ek weet van 22 sirkusnarre langs die veld en dit is net voordat die "squid heads" opdraf. Ek wonder of jy weet hoe Heyneke lyk????

      Hein - 2011-06-15 11:17

      @ Gertie - Jy is verseker DIE grootste nar op hierdie forum vandag en ek ken graag die titel as "Village Idiot" toe aan jou. Heyneke Meyer was nie langs die veld laas Saterdag nie en jy verwar hom met Wynie Strydom wat absoluut mee leef met wat die BULLS op die veld vermag. So geniet jou toekenning en maak asb. seker van jou feite voordat jy probeer slim wees.

      Paul - 2011-06-15 12:31

      Gertjie is die haas wat eerste Buggs Bunny sou gespeel het, maar weg gewys is agv sy lollery met Rooikappie.

  • Kok - 2011-06-15 09:12

    I expect a bulls performance like the one a couple of years back in that final against the chiefs. I see a massive score coming. Bulls to win by 40+. And cheatahs to win by 12. Luckily, the lions are resting - no more hidings for them, they had enough for one season.

      Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-06-15 15:13

      Bulls by 40+, are you for real?

  • Storm Bru - 2011-06-15 09:22

    Bakkies!!!! A walking yellow card and worth at least 5 shots at post for Lambie!!! Fourie is a superstar but with one eye on bucks in Japan. It will take a massive effort to maintain the level of play over last few weeks. Should be on paper too strong for Sharks but I hope they slip up. Tired of the arrogant Bull supporters who assume everyone else is arrogant and that their 'lieflings' are unbeatable and make derogatory comments about other team players. Just want to see them kicked out of Super 15. Would like though in some twisted way for them to make it to playoffs and have to travel to NZ and lose, which they will.

      Whoosa - 2011-06-15 11:30

      Speaking of making derogatory comments hey....??? Main reason why your team havent won anything for 11 years is you, your team and their fans' arrogance, i mean you and your following where of the opinion in March already that you were gonna walk this super 15 hey? Not so certain anymore hey? the bulls might not win it this year, to big of an ask considering all the the travelling they will have to do, but i just cannot see your team winning either!

      GraemeBB - 2011-06-16 23:35

      What about players like Burger, Bekker, Elstadt and Duanne. You are so emotional I want to laugh! You are going to hate us even more after the weekend LOL

  • Grunk - 2011-06-15 09:23

    @Saffa Cat. Saffa I don't know whethr you would be interested but the Scoring method I used was as follows: 10 rounds of 8 minutes each Scoring per round: 1 pt for any involvement attacking or defensive for something not purely routine eg a tackle can be a brilliant defensive tackle or just a straightforward one. Multiply the point by 1, 2, or 3 for degree of difficulty/effectiveness. 2 pts for breaks/tries (including assists) of any nature multiplied by 1, 2, or 3 for degree of success and difficulty – but such breaks must end in a positive fashion. NB Mistakes attract Minus points using same but reverse criteria ie easy mistakes are penalised more heavily. Kickers – No points for successful easy kicks (within 30 metres and 10 metres either side of the posts (weather conditions excepted - but points are deducted if these are missed). 2,3 or 4 points given for difficulty of other kicks and pressure at that point of the game. Similar scoring for tactical/line kicks. The receipt of a Yellow Card has the following impact: a) If it for a Technical/Team offence (or unfairly awarded), the loss of that particular round is automatic. b) However if the Yellow is given for repeated individual warnings or just plain stupid (eg Butch's tackle) then a further Round is forfeited. A Red Card also counts as a Knockout.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 09:54

      @Grunk - now this is methodology I can love with! Brilliant!!!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-06-15 18:10

      I are what I are, please don't make mhisinformed statements

  • Bosveld - 2011-06-15 09:39

    "The country's leading No 8?" Lagwekkend.

  • Bosveld - 2011-06-15 09:45

    "The country's leading Nr 8?" Lagwekkend. Slegs JJ Harmse en Bulls ondersteuners kan dit glo.

  • JJRR - 2011-06-15 10:15

    Bulle gaan Vis EEEEEEEET!!!!!

  • Gertie - 2011-06-15 14:05

    Hein, en ek ken die naam poepol aan jou toe - gaan lees weer, ek het niks gepraat van verlede Saterdag nie.

  • Greegs - 2011-06-15 14:41

    Are any of u shark supporters ready to put your house on the game? Must be stupid if you did consider. Game too close to call and fortress not so much of a fortress at the moment. Bulls by 5 me thinks.....

  • Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-06-15 15:11

    With all the attention that has been on JS this week, I hope that Bismarck steps up to the plate and delivers...

  • BLOODY AGENT - 2011-06-15 15:57

    I have pictures of Spies and Hougie on my wall. They are true heroes to me

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