Bulls maintain playoff belief

2011-05-16 07:16

J.J. Harmse

Pretoria – The full haul of points and healthy boost to their points difference was the first command that was successfully executed, but it certainly won’t relieve the urgency in the Bulls camp – there are still five games that need to be won.

That was the line from Bulls scrumhalf Fourie du Preez after his side beat the Melbourne Rebels 47-10 on Saturday. The Bulls were particularly impressive in the first half.

According to the outstanding scrumhalf, who led the team to a second straight victory at Loftus Versfeld, the team wanted to pick up a bonus point and post a big score as the players believe they can still make the playoffs.

“It can be of major interest later in the tournament, but the reality is that another defeat will again be a step back for us. That is why we dare not rest on our laurels after a good performance. The Sharks will be a huge challenge in Durban,” said Du Preez.

Du Preez said that the Bulls’ goal remains a place in the play-offs and successfully defending their title.

“We will therefore arrive at training on Monday with a common goal and that is to ensure we prepare as well as possible to beat the Sharks.”

He believes that the two games against the Sharks (the other is on 18 June at Loftus Versfeld) can determine the Bulls’ fate.

“It does not help to look at permutations if we don’t keep winning. We start from scratch every week. We will take a lot of confidence into the next week. Things started to go our way in those last 10 minutes of the first half against the Chiefs and we took that into the Rebels game.”

Bulls coach Frans Ludeke also did not have many complaints after the victory.

“We played very good rugby in the first half, and while we lost a little momentum in those first 10 minutes of the second half it was an excellent win for us,” he said.

“There were a few times we did not finish and that broke our momentum, but we also did a lot right.”

Ludeke was not concerned that the Bulls’ lineout drives did not prove as effective against the Chiefs as it did against the Rebels.

“They certainly paid a lot of attention to defending the mauls. You could notice that last week when they did well against the Reds, who are also a good driving team. They did well to limit our opportunities.”

Ludeke preferred to discuss his own team’s defence.

“The fact that we only conceded one try in the game shows how good our focus on defence was,” he said.

The coach did not want to speculate on whether the Sharks’ bye could end up counting against them.

“I don’t know what they did the past week, so I cannot comment,” he said.


  • Ghecko - 2011-05-16 07:28

    I am a stormers supporter with the stormers losing the way I believe the bulls have a more than average chance. Both Sharks and Bulls are looking better but the poor stormers are looking worse

      ChrisG - 2011-05-16 07:54

      Don't write off your team so quickly. I'm a sharks supporter and always said the Stormers were going to struggle a bit on tour, but it's far from over for the Stormers.

      BALSAKKIE - 2011-05-16 09:54

      The Bulls MUST still loose 4 games. Twice against the SHARKS and one game each against the Stormers and the Cheetahs. So I don't understand your reasoning. The game against the Rebels must also be contextualised as they are in 14th place on the log. The Stormers played very bad on saturday, but I still believe they can win the next 5 games in a row. The question is can they win a SEMI and a FINAL?? I have my doubts at this point in time. But I support WP rugby for the past 37 years and will continue to do so, untill I pass away. STORMERS jou lekker ding!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rugby_guru - 2011-05-16 07:33

    Erm, not to be funny, but after the Sharks trash you this weekend, are you still going to live in this belief that you have a chance? Typical bulls, don't worry Sharks will make sure we get you close to that 100 losses in Super Rugby, add that to your record books.

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 07:39

      You don't have to try, you are funny! Please remind me, what is the Super trophy count for the sardiens?

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-16 07:47

      @Marcel after you stole our title in 2007, well it should be one, we all know you paid the ref, go look at YouTube, knock on (not called) then what could have or not have been called a forward, however two decisions not blown, Bulls will do ANYTHING to win, that means take drugs, commit sins of the bible (top most sin), pay off refs, however when it comes to Rugby, you the biggest Joke this country has seen, you went on tour to the Trinations without the Sharks, and South Africa was the biggest laugh in Rugby, yet have the majority sharks in the team year before, we won the title before we had to play all the games. Thats the difference.... PS, come report back to this thread after WE EAT you this weekend.

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 08:00

      The try by the Sharks(Albert van den Berg) was short, go and look at it again!

      JR - 2011-05-16 08:29

      100 losses and 3 Cups vs 100 0000 wins and No Cup. Will take the 100 losses every time. It's like going to the cafe and buying NOTHING!

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-16 09:05

      Hey SAFFA :) and LOL... I don't know going to be interesting, still a one week ban remains. However this is the Bulls the same team that cannot see anything wrong with their game plan. Yes they did 'well' against the Rebels, but any team that knows that boring up and under game will walk all over them... Hahaa, I love this big talk we give each other before a game.. Its similar to what the boxers do, it's all just big talk and the game can go anyway, it's just fun rubbing each other up :D

      Dave-the-bul - 2011-05-16 09:14

      @rugby_idiot, Please make peace that in 2007 we crashed the Sharks! 20 - 19 you didn't tackle. Learn how to tackle and play rugby till the last whistle blows than maybe you can finally win something. Where was the sharks 2009 ? 2010 ? oh ja at the bottom of the log! WHAHAHAHAHA We are going to crash you this weekend can't wait!! GO BULLS!! PS: Don't ever write off the BULLS! NEVER EVER !

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-16 09:28

      dave-the-bul learn how to spell your name right before you even start to comment on anything else, taking advice from a 10 year old isn't the smartest thing to do, now now, off to play with your little cars outside.

      Swazy - 2011-05-16 09:51

      You know buddy, as a bulls supporter, I don't mind my team getting closer to the 100 losses in Super rugby milestone. I am comforted by the fact that we have won the tournament 3 times in the last 4 years. Eat that you j@ckass!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Marx - 2011-05-16 10:00

      Rugby Guru....??????? Your comments don't go well with your name.......see you've found a loosing friend in Saffa, hehe, Saffa, still sour after that loss?? Didn't I tell you last week you're in for a lot more of those heartbreaking losses this year!!! BMT isn't Vaalwyn you know.......

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 10:22

      @Marx - I am not a 'looser' - that title is reserved for a few of the 'ladies' spawned by the various trailer parks scattered throughout Tswane.

      Blouste-Blou - 2011-05-16 10:59

      "tipical bulls" you say - meant in a negative way. Rugby_guru that is exactly the reason why the Bulls has the best record in Superrugby from the SA teams

      Dave-the-bul - 2011-05-16 11:29

      "Rugby Guru....??????? Your comments don't go well with your name.." @Marx you are correct is name is actually @rugby_idiot. There have been a lot of bloggers asking; in fact begging that he should change his name to rugby_idiot. Because his rugby knowledge clearly reflects that his knows nothing about the great game rugby. @rugby_idiot please change ASAP!

  • Marcell - 2011-05-16 07:35

    That's it. Take it one game at a time. Bulls 4 life.

      Dave-the-bul - 2011-05-16 11:42

      BULLS 4 LIFE!!

  • !!Vrystaat!! - 2011-05-16 07:36

    All 3 teams must still play the cheetahs. and all are so close to each other at the top, that the last , last game of the super15 between stormers and cheetahs can just be the big one that decides it all.

      GraemeBB - 2011-05-16 11:28

      @ Vrystaat - you are so right. The Cheetahs are not to be taken lightly, they are looking great!

      TheSteve - 2011-05-17 08:28

      Agree, as a supper thru good times and bad, have allways rated the Cheetahs highly. I also rate the Bulls and Stormers highly, but at the moment, the Cheetahs and thown down the challenge, to be consered the best we need to beat them. Great Game last week.

      TheSteve - 2011-05-17 08:29

      Sorry that should read Shark supporter.

  • Riem - 2011-05-16 07:40

    Thankyou my Bulls, thankyou 47 times!

      Marie - 2011-05-16 08:02

      The Bulls played against the blind school's c team. How could they possibly not have won???? LOL!!!

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 08:13

      Thank you Marie for your consideration but you really don't have to hide the blind school's name, it is called 'Stormers'.

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-05-16 09:05

      Marcell, that you just happened to lose to at moftus. Bulls Suck. lol

  • gooinat - 2011-05-16 07:46

    Great result Saturday will be a draw..........and no bonus points picked up by either side:)

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 07:50

      Great result will be a Blues victory and no bonus points to the opposition.

      gooinat - 2011-05-16 07:52

      Great result is if we never hear from you again on this site..................

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 08:02

      Then don't come back! Thanks for leaving!

      gooinat - 2011-05-16 08:06

      I will still be around my friend,sorry to dissapoint you.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 08:07

      @Gooinat - If a Brazilain wax wasn't enough for old 'Marcell', the gimp true as bob went for a bout of anal bleaching in jolly old Melbourne. Excuse his mood this morning.

      watalife - 2011-05-16 08:44

      morning SAFFA-CAT, the best result for me this coming weekend will be for the flo nulle losing to the sardines. Lets face it the flo nulle have won against very weak teams and should not get ahead of themselves. This weekend I will be supporting the sardines. bulls...suck

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 08:53

      @watalife: no worries mate.

  • sakkie - 2011-05-16 08:10

    You know, all things said.....this weekend is gonna be a cracker between Bulls and Sharks ! I am a Bulls fan and to be honest a bit nervous at the same time, think old Spies will have his hands full with he plays a good game ! So let’s hope the Bulls don’t play Pretorius and then just maybe the Bulls will stand a chance.

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 08:20

      Do we know who the ref is going to be?

      sakkie - 2011-05-16 08:24

      Not be cynical, but I think we have a chance with a non SA Ref: ......Sharks vs Bulls in Durban Referee: Bryce Lawrence New Zealand) Assistant referees: Mark Lawrence (South Africa), Christie Du Preez (South Africa) Television match official: Johann Meuwesen (South Africa)

      sakkie - 2011-05-16 08:27

      HA HA...think we have it better than the I feel sorry for them, they have Steve Walsh ! we all know how he just LOVES South African teams.......eish, sorry Stormers !

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 08:52

      @Sakkie - sorry to say, at this stage Spies has his hands 'full' just trying to run onto the field. In a game like Saturday's where he SHOULD have performed - he was once more MIA. You see him when the players take the field, and then when he greets the opposition at the end. From a Bulls perspective, I wouldn't even start Spies.....

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 09:00

      Spies probeer te hard. Ek dink hy moet bietjie gaan rus. Speel van Velse.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 09:27

      @Marcell - my goeie donkey. Ons stem saam oor iets? Ek wil dit nie glo nie. Waar is die "Spies is koning Ra Ra klub?". Doors closed for business?

      sakkie - 2011-05-16 11:02

      @SAFFA-CAT - I think it's a another case of "mark the good player", dont give him any space to move and (I am sure Alberts will be up to the task come Saturday) the same happened with SBW on Saturday...the Cheetahs clearly bogged him down and he was useless ! not calling Piere useless just yet...hope that he changes his game plan !

  • GHT - 2011-05-16 08:18

    I am no bull, they are definately still in it, depending on the fact that they have to win all their games or other results go their way. But what a performance! Just a pity my Stormers pressed the self destruct button during the half time, otherwise we would have had such an awesome weekend! Well done Cheetahs and Lions

  • Rob - 2011-05-16 08:24

    I'm a Shark, but it you look at the log the Bulls are still in it. It'd be stupid to wrie them off. They seem to be hitting their stride. Big game this weekend against Sharks, although I think Sharks are playing better.

      Travis - 2011-05-16 09:33

      I am with you Rob - also a Shark, but it would be a fool who would write off the Bulls. Derbies are always big, and the Bulls have tons of experience. Add to that the Sharks have had a bye, and it often takes teams a game or two to get back into stride so Sharks are going to have to pitch up with everything to hold a resurgent Bulls off. Makes for good viewing (I hope). Go Sharks!

      Marcell - 2011-05-16 11:46

      Ek het gelees die Stompies se A span het op 'n geheime plek teen die Sardiens gaan speel Sondag om hul te help met hul voorbereiding want hulle besef die skrif is aan die muur. Dit is nou nodig vir die twee om saam te span teen die Bulle as hul iewers wil kom.

  • sonnyg - 2011-05-16 08:25

    Some great rugby this weekend. Sa Flyhalf stocks for the future look good, Janjies, Lambie, Sias, Van aswegen, and cronje. Will be a great battle for the bok no 10 jersey in the future. Still want to see Robert Eberhoson playing 12 with his boet at 10.

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-16 09:43

      Ja, but I do believe Morne is probably the last choice we should make, he can only kick, his ruby skills are not the best.

      Dave-the-bul - 2011-05-16 11:33

      Lambie overrated! FACT! Lambie has done nothing in super rugby only the bulls Morne Steyn (2 time super rugby champ) can do it for SA!

  • Brannas - 2011-05-16 09:32

    Easy as pie to make the playoff and to win the cup, Bulls is on fire again and so is Wynand Olivier. The super 15 cup will remain in Pretoria, the headquarters off superp rugby players.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 09:56

      @Brannas - You do realise that I could have scored the 3 tries Meisiekind scored on Saturday? Without even breaking a sweat.....possibly even doing my nails at the same time? Running in a 'straight stripe' when there isn't an opposition player in sight, ain't exactly tough......well I supposed he didn't drop the ball - 1 point.

      gooinat - 2011-05-16 10:05

      @Brannas,headquarters OFF super rugby players,wats dit?@Saffa,morning to you:)

      Brannas - 2011-05-16 10:13

      @Gooinat. I'm the first to admit my english is kak, but I think you must stick to Afrikaans pal.Yours is extremely kak to say the least. Thanks for drawing my attention to the typo mistake, well done, I'm impressed. @SAFFA-CAT. WO will run rings around JDV and SBW at the same time if the latter plays for the same team against him.

      watalife - 2011-05-16 10:22

      Ja Brannas, My 80yr grandmother would score against the rebels with the defence they have. To rave about him is a bit premature, lets see what he can do this weekend against better defence. 2yrs no Vodacom Cup 1yr no Currie Cup Mmmmmmmmmmmm...bulls...suck

      Marx - 2011-05-16 10:26

      Brannas, remember, Saffa will never acknowledge that Wynand is one of the better centres in World Rugby. Saffa, tell me know, what happened again on saturday?? I can remember, the Chiefs kicked your ass all over the park from 3-20 down, how many tackless did intercept de Villiers miss??

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 10:28

      @Gooinat - morning :) Plz excuse Brannas as well....f@rk knows what his gripe is, but I'm leaning towards, NO in fact I'm going with: Turbo Tard. @Brannas - I think it's embarassing enough putting Meisiekinds name in the same sentence as SBW's - why not exit stage left right about now?

      Marx - 2011-05-16 10:35

      Saffa, het SBW nie sy gat gesien teen die Cheetas die naweek nie???

      Danny - 2011-05-16 10:39

      Wynand is 'n overrated drol man.

      gooinat - 2011-05-16 10:44

      @Brannas,anything that comes out of your mind is CR@P,so in ander woorde hou liewerste jou mond.Like I said last week and I will repeat it this week,Meisiekind will neva wear the green and gold before De Villiers and thats a fact.......

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 11:04

      @Marx - het Meisiekind nie vloermat vir SBW gespeel 'n tydjie terug? Marx, there are better centres in the Varsity Cup. Seriously, why don't you guys start Watermeyer and Dippenaar? Dippies defence is a bit iffy, but I reckon the 2 of them offer you ladies a heckuva lot more than Meisiekind & Dippies. Wynand is AVERAGE with a capital A. In fact, ask a few neutrals what their opinion is RE: Meisiekind.

      sakkie - 2011-05-16 11:14

      No Man !! WO is all hair and no Grrrrrr.....whish the Bull's can make a solid investment like Doppies ! I think most will not agree, but he's a good runner, just a shame he plays with idiots !!

      Raka13 - 2011-05-16 11:20

      Wynand Olivier.....what an overated rugby player. He only gets mentioned if the Bulls win by large margins, else he is average and on par with Meyer Bosman.

      Marx - 2011-05-16 11:29

      Saffa, hy's so average, hy't sommer al 3 julle top sentertjies se gatte geskop in die finaal laasjaar, en die agelope hoeveel jaar. In die land van die blinde is Saffa koning, en Gooinat, Watalife & Kie is haar Bitches. Julle klomp idiote daar in die Kaap speel op emosie rugby, dis hoekom julle Cup-less gaan wees vir nog 10 jaar !! Habana was die top drie drukker vir die Bulle, wat is hy nou??? Hy's nêrens nie, want julle senters is duidelik nie in dieselfde klas nie, anders sou hou tog iets beteken het of hoe, hy kry nooit die bal nie, en as hy dit kry is dit k*k bal. Sorry!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 11:37

      @Marx - are you Meisiekinds manager? Pleased to meet you. I have never said that Meisiekind is useless (Spies is useless), I have said that Meisiekind is a very good provincial player - nothing more, nothing less. That is about his ceiling. He has failed to make the step up to International level, and he won't do it now. Let him do his thing in the CC and Super 15 - he is safe and comfy there. Just keep him away from the test arena. Simple really.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 11:39

      @Sakkie - I rate Doppies, always have. I think he would be a fine investment for the Bulls - but don't count on it as Meisiekind has signed another 3 year contract I think. I like Watermeyer and Dippenaar as a combo as well.

  • Paul - 2011-05-16 09:48

    Sharks gaan hulle gat skop

  • Hunter 008 - 2011-05-16 10:02

    Go SHARKS !!!!!!!!!

      watalife - 2011-05-16 10:23

      Go sardines

  • bullincapeto - 2011-05-16 10:14

    Rugby-guru. Why are you bringing your happy clappy mumbo jumbo into this.Go to church on sunday, be a good boy( not like Jimmy Swaggart or any catholic priest) and dont try and bring religion into a rugby discussion. P.s I will eat my shorts if the sharks win on sat.

      Rob - 2011-05-16 10:23

      Hope you get them washed the night before. Bulls have won their last two easy games... Wait till they meet a real team

  • springbokke - 2011-05-16 10:38

    I just wish for all round good rugby this coming weekend.......All teams realy impressed this past week. ...The Stormers had a spell of bad luck, they WILL lift themselves again......................Guys, from a person of 'three score and fifteen'....I thank you for the good entertainment, I have been a rugby follower since the '50s and believe me , the game is as good as ever...thank you.....Bokke.,

  • Muzi Msimango - 2011-05-16 10:59

    @SAFFA-CAT @Molefe The bulls have a mountain to climb to beat the sharks twice...will take committment...heart...hunger...and guts. The bulls have to win all their games to make the wild card spot. I do not agree with certain bulls bloggers in rugby365...news23 and the bulls website. That does not bother me at all really. Like i said earlier on the bulls have problems to fix. Pierre Spies is an incredible athlete i have seen him at loftus without a doubt he is a big lad. He is not a bashing number 8 that is where the bulls coaches have it all wrong....they have made pierre a crash ball 8...... Where is his power...speed...strength...i feel hurt by the form of pierre he is my favourite rugby player...what makes me very angry is that no one is addressing his problems we are doing nothing about's obvious the guy needs to be dropped. I had a converstion with a pal of mine about the grunt...collission dominance and power play missing from the bulls forwards. It's like the forwards just stand there and wait for a player to run at them.....where are the huge hits....mongrel that bakkies botha was known to have?????? It's a fact the stormers and the sharks packs weigh over 900 kg's....rassie and plumtree have monster forward packs at their desposal....Heyneke Meyer said in a Q and A session that the bulls will have to go back to the days of heavy loose forwards...i agree him at the moment the bulls forwards are being bullied.

      Agile - 2011-05-16 11:53

      To whom is it "obvious that Spies needs to be dropped"? The current Bulls forwards have been playing a unit for a 4th year running now. They lost 3 games in 2009 (CHAMPS), 2 in 2010 (CHAMPS), and 5 so far in 2011- a bad season, but exciting. Their opposition has remained the same. So, Since when have the Bulls' "light forwards" been bullied all of a sudden?? This is how it works with fickle "supporters": A team has a slow start to the tournament, and they call for wholesale changes and start getting philosophical about team-dynamics. This "monster Stormers pack" didn't fare to well against the Bulls for many games stretching back to mid last decade. Bakkies Botha lost 9 kilograms for the ELVs in 2009, for example, sometimes you need mobility rather than bulk. And tell me, which of the Bulls forwards CANNOT tackle the daylights out of any player on earth???

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 11:54

      Morning @Muzi. Even I as a fanatical Stormer/WP dudette have not written the Bulls off. I know that if they manage to make the playoffs, they will become serious contenders (regardless of what their current form is etc) I agree with your summary on the physicality issues. It has been obvious in it's absence this campaign - that "brutal contesting". It has to be psychological though, as some of these chaps - bruisers of note can't just lose their "aggro" in a season. We noticed it in individuals for the Boks (Victor etc). The loose trio seems lightweight - and against the bigger packs have struggled and will struggle, unless something drastic happens. I like Potgieter - intelligent player, but him in combo with the other 2 - not balanced at all. You have no 'brick sh*thouse/barbaric' loosie in that trio. (An Alberts, A Schalk or Duane etc) I am keen to see what loose trio the Sharks select.....(with their limited options) All I know is, after Saturday no-one will die wondering if the Bulls are truly contenders this year or not.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 12:39

      @Agile - It is obvious to every genuine rugby lover in SA that Spies should be your eyes and step into the light.

      GraemeBB - 2011-05-16 12:51

      @Muzi - I dont reply to your posts often, as I dont agree with you all the time. I wont argue that you often make good points, and seem to have a good understanding of the game. Tell me why you are pointing out one player. Spies cant be the reason that the whole Bulls team is playing below par. The real concerns for me is set-pieces.Garry Botha isnt finding his jumpers. I prefer Chilli. Matfield isnt the guru he was. Botha is too scared to play full steam. Our scrum is being penalised all season, even on our ball. These are the real problems. Our back-line lacks imagination. Thank the stars Pretorius is out - Dippinaar isnt great iether, but give the man a fair chance. WO is starting to look better, but only now. FDP has been out of sorts. Kirshner means well, but has made a hash of things quite often. van den Heever is a total nana these days. What is going on in the whole team, and you just point out Pierre. I am glad that you dont care about what others say. In all honesty, it appears that you are commenting for approval from the opposition. I would rather stand-up for my guys, win or lose. Go Pierre, Go Bulls.

      Raka13 - 2011-05-16 13:16

      GraemeBB - good argument and valid points. The imagination/ X Factor you are looking for I reckon is on your bench - Hougaard and Rossouw. These 2 players can turn any game around irrespective in which team they play or against any team they play. Kirchner, Olivier, Spies, Bakkies and Gary are key players in key positions who are not on form.

  • GraemeBB - 2011-05-16 11:39

    It is so funny that the Stormers are out in force when there is a Bulls article. I didnt see too many of them post on the CHIEFS BACKLASH STUNS STORMERS article. Only goes to show the nature of these guys! The reality is that the Bulls have an almost imposible task of winning all their remaining games. This is a position that they have created for themselves. The Bulls have come back after being written off before, and I hope that they can do some magic again this year. The Sharks look a bit wobbly against the Brumbies after a fat klap from the Stormers, and the Stormers have suffered two losses in a row. The Cheetahs are looking awsome, and can spoil it for any of these three teams. If we look at the Highlanders and Waratahs, they are not performing too well iether. The last 5 games are very important, and it is wide open for the team who want it the most. Good luck to all. GO BULLS!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-16 12:41

      @Graeme - I was here...tsk tsk.

      GraemeBB - 2011-05-16 13:07

      I didnt say I never saw a Stormer, I said I never saw alot of them, but they came out of their holes now - tsk tsk.

      gooinat - 2011-05-16 14:11

      I don't take my computer home and I will stand by my team through thick and thin,Go Stormers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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