Bulls lucky to get zero

2011-04-10 16:02

JJ Harmse
Pretoria - The one positive the Blue Bulls Company should take from yesterday's woeful Bulls performance is that they probably won’t lose any players for the Currie Cup competition.
It is incredibly hard to envision them producing any Springboks for the World Cup if they keep on performing like they did against the Crusaders.
The Crusaders thrashed the (current) champions 27-0.
It is not often that you see guys throwing away their names in 80 minutes of rugby like we saw yesterday, which is probably the  Bulls' darkest day in recent Super Rugby history.
You would have to go back to 2005, when they also scored zero points (against the Higlanders), to find a more pathetic performance like the one in Timaru yesterday.
The Bulls were unable to catch, unable to tackle, unable to think, and showed about as much heart as a French soldier during the opening weeks of the Second World War.
Yes, they were lucky to get zero.
Bulls coach Frans Ludeke simply cannot continue ignoring the reality of the performance from some of his players.

Pierre Spies, Wynand Olivier and Fourie du Preez, to name a few, have completely lost the plot.
And, if they want to have any chance whatsoever against the Reds next week, Ludeke has to make some drastic changes.
Every player makes mistakes, but the simple ease with which players like Spies and Olivier knocks the ball on, is simply unacceptable.
A clearly frustrated Victor Matfield admitted that those mistakes are unacceptable, but he could hardly point any fingers after his own poor effort.
Chris Jack taught him a lesson at lineout time, and his own handling error just after halftime resulted in the second Crusaders try at a crucial juncture in the match.
But, this is their problem. The senior players are not showing enough courage and passion and display a shocking inability to master the basic skills of the game.
"Not once could we build phases, simply because we could not keep hold of the ball," Matfield complained afterwards.
It’s nice to read about a new living room set or a snazzy garden from a Bulls player in family magazines, but to gain respect from rugby fans, you should as least be able to catch a rugby ball and wear your jersey with pride.
Unfortunately, this characteristic is absent among the current crop of Bulls.
However, one should not take away anything from the Crusaders, who currently play top-notch rugby, even without the likes of Dan Carter and Ritchie McCaw.
Sonny Bill Williams is the all beast he’s been made out to be, and the disregard he showed for the Bulls defence to score his team’s first try, shows exactly just how much better he is than the Bulls centre pairing.
The Crusaders completely dominated their opponents in every aspect of the game.
The Bulls simply did not belong on the same field.
If there’s ever been an example of one team giving it as good as they’ve got, and one who simply cannot perform worse, then yesterday’s match was just that.

Williams’ try, after he easily broke through half-hearted attempted tackles by Morne Steyn and Wynand Olivier, and three penalties from flyhalf Matt Berquist, gave the Crusaders a handy, though not unassailable lead at halftime.

Matfield’s blunder though, resulted in a try by Israel Dagg, and after that it was one-way traffic.

The Bulls tried to get momentum, with guys like Zane Kirchner, Francois Hougaard and Dean Greyling giving their best, but one handling error after the other halted them from posing any real threat to the Crusaders line.

The Bulls only chance for points came in the first half, when Morne Steyn missed a penalty.

This is the harsh reality for a team, where urgent introspection from every member is surely required.


  • Flemjob - 2011-04-10 14:23

    Brutal comments, but they're fair. I support the Stormers and this article has cheered me up. Try choosing a Springbok team based on current form. The only guys I'm sure about are Willem Alberts and Jacques Fourie.

      ChrisG - 2011-04-10 14:58

      I agree with you there. Stormers are my least favourite team in SA, but you have to love Jacque Fourie no matter what team he plays for. I can't wait to see him run circles around SBW.

      Aitsa - 2011-04-10 18:26

      For ChrisG - Jaque Fourie is an outside centre and SBW plays at 12. Which means that you'd want a Bok tactic of using Fourie, the outside centre, to set up phase ball. Which would be an increidble waste of his talent. Which means you know jacksh*t about rugby and should maybe go comment somewhere else if you're that bored.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 08:24

      .....Stormers = 11 years Faders...!!! ......Ha ha ha ha ha ...!!!

      Russell - 2011-04-12 06:57

      Definitely hard to see a Springbok team being picked to that will even be able to compete effectively in the world cup on present form. We seem to be lacking in all departments. John Smit might not be captain this time, thanks to not being selected in one position, but he has outperformed Matfield so far, so I hope that Matfield does not get appointed as captain. I feel we have deteriated in the locking, loose trio, centers, and we have no fullback to speak of at the moment. Can we ask for delay of the world cup for another year.

  • Flemjob - 2011-04-10 14:23

    Brutal comments, but they're fair. I support the Stormers and this article has cheered me up. Try choosing a Springbok team based on current form. The only guys I'm sure about are Willem Alberts and Jacques Fourie.

  • Hackney - 2011-04-10 14:31

    You must be a Bull Supporter ... your spelling is dreadful ... almost like the Bulls’ Performance.

      GraemeBB - 2011-04-10 14:58

      @Hackney - you must be a Stormer. Your moral outCRY from the previous article almost brought a tear to my eye. And here you are, joining the pack to insult people you dont even know. A TRUE STORMER. @Lord Haw Haw - what a load of dribble, but it was funny.

      Lloyd - 2011-04-10 15:06

      I agree Graeme, lots of anger issues.

  • Durasmart - 2011-04-10 14:31

    Did someone steal JJ. Harmse's name and then wrote this article.

  • Bedal - 2011-04-10 14:40

    We saving ourselves for the World Cup.

      Snoek - 2011-04-10 15:06

      Judging by the way they are playing, they won't make the WC. And Pieter dV will pick the old Jake White squad (Inc. the mentioned names above) again as always.

      Neyven - 2011-04-11 02:13

      The Bulls should move Hougaardt back to scrum-half and forget about Du Preez. Du Preez is starting to look like the lollipop man on aircraft carriers the way he waves his arma around.

      Uwe Klopfer - 2011-04-11 10:21

      @neyven - i disagree, du preez was so not in the game he didnt even wave his arms about. and this team was supposed to be there or there abouts with the stormers and sharks to win the s15 ? hahaha, yeah right. show me a team in south africa that stands a chance against these crusaders. im just worried how far my lions are going to lose. 40-0 ? or 80-0 ? coz as much as i wish them to win it aint going to happen this year.

      The Patriot - 2011-04-11 10:36

      The Crusaders are playing like magicians at the moment. Really the team to beat. Only have one cancelation, the AB's are the world rugby chokers, so we may have a slim, very slim chance of getting somewhere in this RWC.

  • Mike@CapeT - 2011-04-10 14:58

    Aw....c'mon're using my headlines! lol. I have to agree. If ever there was a game where the untouchables became totally useless, this was the game. Knock-on's...spilt idea of what to do next. I know that the Stormers were also beaten a few hours later but let's face it, they are entitled to their first (and hopefully their last) loss of the season. How many losses have the Bulls it 3? Should I repeat that......3!

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-04-10 18:16

      Graeme...I agree, the Stormers were kak - they looked lethargic!

      conoseur - 2011-04-11 09:30

      Graemebb-WIN AT HOME!! and your talking about a team which lost 2 at home of which one was against the strormers!!. Be subjective. We're talking here about a team with some of the key WC players. And they perform the way they did? The stormers at least tried but played poorly and was outmuscled by a good REDS team. The bulls as a team showed no pride but why should they. They seem to think that their places are secure in the WC team. I hope for all our sakes they catch a wake up soon.

  • DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 15:08

    Victims of their own success. Happens to the best of them. Sadly the Bulls have been elevated into Demi-God status by both P Divvy, and the rugby connections up north. Fans/Coaches/Players have refused to see the writing that has been splattered on the wall as early as last year. The massive sense of 'entitlement' that engulfs the entire Bulls setup keeps the hard, cold facts at bay...(and still does, if one reads what various 'Bulls fans" write and what various Bulls players have commented in passing weeks) Matfield, du Preez and co have far too much power in SA rugby fullstop - even in terms of Bok gameplans, selections etc. In the past it might have been deserved, now it just looks very ANC-ish. I reckon it's about time Journos, Bulls fans and the BOK MANAGEMENT start telling these chaps the truth - ...(they can't keep dreaming forever) - cos lets face it, the Boks DO need a few of them (and NO, Spies and Rapunzel are not included) Then again, if Matfield sounded so petulant after yesterdays snotting, I'm not quite sure what WOULD ram the message home......another snotting next week?

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 15:11

      PS: JJ this is my 'fave' comment from your rant: "Pierre Spies, Wynand Olivier and Fourie du Preez, to name a few, have lost the plot completely. "

      molefeP - 2011-04-10 18:31

      Why is it that we the rugby public see all the mistakes. But those in power hold themselves blind?

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 19:11

      @Molefe, Evening :) I suppose its the nature of professional sport...Players are the stars, and the stars hold the sway. (Look at soccer, American Football, Basketball etc etc-players are in charge...managers/coaches etc nothing but the class monitors) Sadly I think rugby in certain countries, (France & South Africa for starters) has become far 2 glamorous for the players good. Aussie bringing in salary caps next year for their 30 contracted players (massive cuts in salary) yet they have already managed to resign quite a few NZ 'stars' however much they are revered, live NOTHING like our chaps, and they earn far less - fact.......SA Rugby living under perpetual threat of players leaving is being forced to sing, dance & tow the players line, lest the players leave us for greener pastures (as P Divvy basically confirmed when he named contracted players - Matfield and co would have been long gone if they didn't have these contracts - so on the one hand it IS understandable) Thankfully the NH clubs are starting to feel the pinch as well, and might not be able to pay the exorbitant salaries they once offered our boys....heres hoping. :) When anything is rotten - money plays a part somewhere.... Yes, there is a lot more to it than this, I know - politics, differents cultures in each Province etc etc etc, but, the players attitudes - MONEY.

      molefeP - 2011-04-10 19:49

      @SAFFA, evening Mam ;-). Was a rhetorical Question. But I know exactly what you mean. In my view the Sport administration is there to prevent exactly what is happenign at the moment. Fat chance of that happening though

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 20:33

      @Molefe - seriously though, it is pretty sad when the okes doing 90% of the 'playing' are the okes without the "bling". I am not a Zane K fan - but yesterday he reminded me why I have never understood why so many "hate" him as a player. Potgieter played himself to a virtual standstill and even old Steggies tried....(whilst having to do 99% of Spies's work as well.......) I discovered newfound respect for Zane K yesterday....

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 20:33

      @Molefe - seriously though, it is pretty sad when the okes doing 90% of the 'playing' are the okes without the "bling". I am not a Zane K fan - but yesterday he reminded me why I have never understood why so many "hate" him as a player. Potgieter played himself to a virtual standstill and even old Steggies tried....(whilst having to do 99% of Spies's work as well.......) I discovered newfound respect for Zane K yesterday....

  • GraemeBB - 2011-04-10 15:10

    Truely speaking, this has been such a difficult season to remain loyal, but it is in my nature. The Bulls deserve to get blasted. Spies, boet, what are you scared of?? WO, you are just as bad as Habana, and that is an insult. The whole team just has no hunger. I can live with the losses, but the lack of interest is what hurts me the most. I didnt see one Bok. JJ - you got it right, changes need to to be made. Bring us guys who want to play. And coach guy, you need to be changed too. No insight of your own, and no ability to adapt to the ever-changing game.

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 15:32

      @Graeme, Habana at least was a shining start.....Olivier never has been....(except in his mind, and the minds of the brainwashed...) What is it - 50 international tests - 1 try (against Italy?) - Comparing Olivier to Habana is an insult to Habana - not vice versa. Habs at least WAS great.....

      GraemeBB - 2011-04-10 16:21

      SAFFA - Jean DeVilliers has only scored 9 tries in like 70 or so tests. Not a great scoring rate iether, however is regarded as perhaps our best ever - and I agree. Jean is a play-maker, and makes great breaks. Last season, at S15 level, WO was potent - and I think we all agree that he never managed to take the step up. Right now, I am commenting on S15 rugby. I am comparing him to Habana's current form, not previous - why is it that you are quick to point out Bulls has-beens, but cant see Stormer has-beens? I never said that he never was. He has taken a huge slump since joining the Stormers. Habana is a shocker these days, and I think even you can agree to that. Yes, he works hard, and tries hard, but he has lost his mojo. I dont understand it, but that is how it is for him right now. But, with all the small-minded Bull haters casting their comments every week, relishing in the fall of the BULLS, they are failing to see another picture: The fall of the Springbok. Again, I am not saying that the Bulls are the Boks - I am just saying that over the past 4 years, they certainly have been an important component. For the Bok's sake, lets hope that all our teams pick up on the performance.

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 17:15

      @Graeme, My apologies if I misinterpreted your Meisiekind/Habana comment. And you know I agree RE: the Boks. I have been whinging about it for long enough. RE: The Super 15 - The Bulls sadly deserve the pouding they are getting from the media, and fans alike.....end of. They are (as we are reminded every 30 secs) defending champs and 3 time cup winners etc etc etc etc...... The Stormers on the other hand, according to most on here, are EXPECTED to fail, and are not worthy to take to the field.....So no pressure on us. Which brings me back to the defending champs, core of the Bok quad, masters of the gameplan: BULLS. Whats wrong with them Graeme?

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 17:31

      GraemeBB... Yes, fans we are and fans we shall remain. But right now I feel like a parent whose child has been caught stealing at school. Wiped out.

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 17:32

      GraemeBB... Yes, fans we are and fans we shall remain. But right now I feel like a parent whose child has been caught stealing at school. Wiped out.

  • ilollipop - 2011-04-10 15:30

    I get that the Bulls played badly, but what he doesn't say is why. It's no use just blaming the players. Methinks the Bulls are caught in two minds. They don't know if they want to play slow and kick and chase OR if they want to play the fast tempo "total rugby. I'm not a Bulls fan... but the players didn't become bad players in just a week. The whole team lacks rhythm. When Fourie du Preez got the ball is was usually slow, which put paid to all attempts at running at them and on that point the Bulls must stop trying to run over people. Where is the guile? The Bulls are a far better team than what we saw, which is probably what hurts so much for you Bulls fans. Then ask yourself... what WAS the plan? Because that gameplan sucked sh*t and it's best put at the back of the file. Ps. I don't know what "They were lucky to get 0" means. It sounds like something a 7 year old would use as his "killer punch" argument. I hope the Bulls read this crap and treat you accordingly.

      Leon - 2011-04-10 16:14

      "OR if they want to play the fast tempo "total rugby"? Give me a break! The bulls have never played total rugby. They would'nt know how. Brute force and physical dominance, yes. Flair, never.

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 20:20

      @Marius: Fantastic insight. The first half of the Bulls's opening game this year (against the Cheetahs I think) was a display of "total rugby". All the lights were on, and they looked exactly like the team that crucified the crusaders last year. But now they are like a computer that's on "sleep" and it won't reboot (so to speak). All we can do is hope that the alarm clock goes off before it's too late to miss the quarterfinals. I must disagree with you over your maligning JJ though - he is clearly being facetious. Like all serious Bulls lovers, he is also smarting and furious at his team's execrable - I can't even call it "performance".

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 20:40

      @William S - the first 40 mins against the Lions at the Coke shack....the Bulls looked incredible. I remember sitting watching and thinking that I had possibly 'got the impending Bulls implosion I predicted last year already, all WRONG'...........

  • sessisie - 2011-04-10 15:45

    Get rid of all the experience (too old to slow), and get rid of Ludeke too!

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 10:07

      .....Ludeke = paloooooka..!! ............Matfield, Spies, Du Preez, Olivier = has-beens..!!!

  • 106SA - 2011-04-10 16:17

    NZ will be hard to beat as they play with expansive plans and they have players with the skills to back it up.Their physicality these days is as good and maybe more so than Boks.BUT..the big difference is, they back it up with SMART THINKING/SKILLS.Sadly,someone like Habana(remember the intercept king),is been totally shown up by a crop of super 'x' factor Kiwis(and Ozzies I must tell you)!!These guys can jinx,side step,chip,kick with both feet and cut the opposition into pieces.Habana(and I had lunch today with an ex Bok from the 80's who concurrs with me),has NONE of the above skills.He's but one example.Then in the forwards..well...they are just not feared anymore and the Bok crop of the past 8 years are mostly tired, useless, fat, slow,or simply.....not GOOD enough anymore!Amen.....

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 17:19

      @Effel - Nothing you say about Vermeulen will change the fact that he makes Spies look like a Craven week wannabe.

  • Rickesa - 2011-04-10 16:40

    The SA teams are just falling behind.. The bulls are living on memories (just like liverpool and england) and think that they just have to turn up to win. Reality check!! The Sharks are playing ordinary, the Stormers have 1 game plan and the Reds found it and exploited it, the Cheetahs - well what can you say and the Lion's - at least they are trying, they are throwing the ball around and trying to play rugby, another year under Mitchell and they will be ticking!

  • MothMan - 2011-04-10 16:46

    Considering the results from yesterday, arguments and counter arguments, reasons given for the losses, there is one fact that was emphatically proved again. There is too much PROTECTED GAME in big union / Springbok setups. A Springbok centre with 1 try in 32 tests?? The list of "untouchables" who is only playing on reputation from 1 or 2 average to good performances locally I'm not even bothering with.. These so-called Springboks should have one season under Graham Henry so that they can come back to earth with a big bang. After waking up, 80% will not make it into the squad, let alone handing out contracts.

      GraemeBB - 2011-04-10 17:04

      Again, a quick fact - Jean DeVilliers 9 tries in about 70 tests. That means give or take 60 scoreless tests. And the Bok team is still to be announced - again, just a quick fact. Bye-bye

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 17:21

      1 Try in 32 tests - thats Meisiekind mate, against Italy I ai ai ai. Indeed the blanket of ENTITLEMENT......from contracts, to game time, to making squads, to selecting the gameplan.... - and thats the players.

      Liam - 2011-04-10 17:25

      hey bud not even close...go check ur sources again..Jean has 19 test tries...

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 17:30

      @Graeme - if you are going to try and convince me that Meisiekind is Jean Divs equal, I am going to fax you a prescription for some anti-psychotic medication mate.......

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 20:27

      @GraemeBB : I respect your comments, but can't believe that a guy with your insight rated Jean de V. by his "number of tries scored". I am a Bulls supporter but rate JdV as one of the most valuable players in the Bok team. It would be hard to do, but I'll bet if one could calculate a player's "total value" then JdV would be right up there.

  • GILLBERT - 2011-04-10 16:57

    everybody is seing red light there is still 10 more weeks of rugby to be played

      Leon - 2011-04-10 17:40

      Agreed. Let's hope it's not 10 weeks of suffering.

  • rugby_guru - 2011-04-10 17:59

    Not trying to be funny but the bulls should not be part of the wc. Ja the sharks lost to saders but we if we had a decent flyhalf on the day we would have lost 39 44 then again if we had a decent flyhalf on the day we would have not let a minimum of 2 tries through. We at least scored 4 tries against them, let's see how Stormers perform, but its looking like a sharks and stormers wc team if we have any chance.. Stormers centres, and a few forwards, put their flyhalf in the team and maybe their fullback, we will cover the wings.. We play similar rugby, not kicking the ball away our teams can score tries and stormers centres and fullback and some forwards an rotation flyhalf with lambie, my goodness noone will touch that bok team, ye grant is good but lambie has magic so if we alternate it will rattle our competitors...

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 18:18

      Evening Guru. Nice win for you dudes! Sadly the WC squad is almost cemented in stone, those with the contracts will be going.....which leaves about 7 places open. Now if you consider Alberts, Sarel Pretorious, Lambie, Grant,etc etc are not contracted players (and not taking into account the overseas players, Pienaar, F Steyn etc), I ask myself WHY the rest of SA's Super 15 players are busting a GUT week in and week out in what is seemingly a waste of time......That is what scares me......Those contracted players bar injury will selected (SARU do not have the financial capacity to leave 50% of the contracted Boks at home, and pay others per appearance - thats my take on it) So I ask again, why are the other players even trying? That is what P#SSED me off beyonf belief at the Bulls gutless, heartless outing in Timaru. They have the contracts, the cash, the guarantess - yet they couldn't even lift themselves to "try" and look interested......sies on them. It's the Bulls players who AREN'T CONTRACTED who gave a little more effort yesterday - and that about says it all.

      molefeP - 2011-04-10 18:36

      Hi Guru, Only three guys from the Bulls should be considered. Guthro, Potgieter and Morne. Guthro because he is by miles the best prop in the country at the moment, Potgieter because nobody in the Bulls team plays with as much heart. And Morne because there are only two no 10's in the country who can plull it off. That is Steyn and Grant. Lambie is brilliant, but a prospect for the future. I am sure that I speak for a lot of people when I say that he is just not ready yet. Why burn him out?

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-10 20:27

      You right lambie does have some growing to do we don't want what happened to jantjies happening to him... Morne needs to prove himself if he wants to be part of the team and a kick from in front of his poles needs to be guaranteed, not hot and cold.. He needs to do what we know he can, but certainly not currently doing

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-10 20:32

      Lambie has many years ahead of him and rushing him to play a wc I don't think is the best call for sa as much as he is a wonder kid, his time will come.. Grant before this season I have not paid much attention to, however that man can kick a ball and play some decent rugu, and I'd take bekker over matfield for the lineouts, I'm starting to lose patience with his disrespect to match officials and shoddy gameplan to go with that.. Ja matfield has done great things over the years so has smit, but must we bench bismark who aussies say is best hooker in the world to play someone who isn't on form? Sorry but if we want to win we play who is currently the best in the country and we do what is best for sa rugby

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-10 20:35

      Lambie has many years ahead of him and rushing him to play a wc I don't think is the best call for sa as much as he is a wonder kid, his time will come.. Grant before this season I have not paid much attention to, however that man can kick a ball and play some decent rugu, and I'd take bekker over matfield for the lineouts, I'm starting to lose patience with his disrespect to match officials and shoddy gameplan to go with that.. Ja matfield has done great things over the years so has smit, but must we bench bismark who aussies say is best hooker in the world to play someone who isn't on form? Sorry but if we want to win we play who is currently the best in the country and we do what is best for sa rugby

  • Peter - 2011-04-10 18:00

    I read the comments to this blog with slight amusement, but mostly sadness as we all should be very concerned at the poor shape of South African rugby in general, when compared to NZ.So instead of intelligent, constructive comments all that is written is provincial sledging.Why not discuss our inability to run to the ball when attacking, or our outdated kick and chase style(Bulls) or the umbrella defence of the Stormers...or how unlucky the fighting Free State Cheetahs are, or that we run at the opposition, instead of between or around like the Aus and NZers do? Come on guys, lets play together...

      Richard Eberhard - 2011-04-10 18:51

      Peter, just a note, The Bulls on the weekend ran most of their posetion, which is probably why the had such alot of knockons and arent use to the running game( lol) but seriously, they did try and run the ball alot. The Stormers on the other hand used this (bulls) style to good effect agains the current champs and they kicked away all there possesion against the reds. The kick and chase is a very effective style but it has to be done to a precise 't' otherwise its just giving away ball. The bulls did it well vs the Hurricanes but only coz Basson and Hougaard and zane chased to good effect. I do agree with your state on it though and our ineptnous to attack as a unit to the ball carrier.

  • JohannV - 2011-04-10 18:33

    To all Bulls supporters with excuses about the ref, or whatever else you're trying to blame: I'm a LOYAL Bulls supporter - have been one for the last 35 years. What I've seen so far this season is shocking and worrying. These guys are supposed to be the best, supposed to take us to the RWC in a few months. But all I've seen from our men in blue so far are: 1. Handling errors - sometimes double or triple that of their opponents. 2. POOR defence - our guys have forgotten the golden rule about defense: "Nobody can run without his legs." They tackle around the neck, the collar, the shoulders, the arms, everywhere BUT the legs. 3. Frans Ludeke needs a new backline coach, and he needs a new game plan. Our current one is outdated, ineffective and pathetic. We won't get far like this. So guys, please stop making excuses - do the job you're getting paid for. Our blood remains BLUE!!!

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 20:29

      I can't agree with you... more. Hell, that semi-final berth is looking bleak.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 08:27

      ....bring back Heyneke Meyer...!!! ........Ludeke = paloooooka...!!!!

  • Richard Eberhard - 2011-04-10 18:43

    I would just like to add without sounding like a bad loser. I take nothing away form the Crusaders, they played a good game and beat us comprhensively. I am a bulls supporter through and through. The Bulls beat themselves.......and lost. Depsite the ref's (and note how all the officials were from NZ) shocking decisions, ie: penalising the bulls time and again for tacklers not rolling away immidiatly but yet the crusaders have the freedom to get told to roll away even though the impede the balls availablity. on 3 seperate occasion, the bulls were deliberately held back by a jersey tug here and there by one (there cpt) and the ref was always in the way of dupreez and then the 2nd phase runners which is why Flip got hit the way he did. (go look at the tapes and sse where this dingbat ref was). The bulls however despite all the poor calls had the opportunities to score a few tries but had severed limbs for hands. Lets hope that this is their turning point and the kick up the behind to make them see that being current champs back to back is'nt a free pass into the playoffs. They cant get any crudder than saturday?.........or can they? BUlls to the end.

  • Oom Christo - 2011-04-10 19:09

    Hallo almal, Ek is oom Christo van Bloemfontein. Eerstens wil ek my skok uitspreek oor die vulgere taal en beledigings wat oor en weer geslinger word op die blad. Skaam julle man, ons is mos almal opgevoede (of veronderstel) mense wat die spel geniet en waardeer. Tweedens is ons mos almal Suid-Afrikaners wat graag die Wereldbeker wil wen, hoekom mekaar se provinsies so afkraak en beledig. Ek verstaan elkeen ondersteun sy provinsie en dat ons passievolle sportmense is, maar komaan, gun elkeen sy opinie, maak intelligente opmerkings sonder om onder die belt in te vloek man. Sies vir julle. Op 'n positiewe punt, Go Sharks, Go Bulle, Go Stormers ons kanse is soveel beter vir die wereldbeker as ons weer 2 spanne in die finaal kan he. Kom ons hoop weer op 'n Bulls-Stormers finaal soos laasjaar, waar soos ons almal weet die Bulls weereens die Stormers sal opslet.

      Robschele - 2011-04-10 19:55

      Gedink jy's 'n Bullfan. Noudat julle so sleg verloor het probeer jy keer dat julle te veel uitgeskel word. En die Bulls moet dit eers maak eindstryd toe. Tans kwalifiseer hulle nie eens vir die "wild card" nie. Wat beteken OPSLET. Het nog nooit van so 'n woord gehoor nie.

      Oom Christo - 2011-04-10 20:03

      Ou Robschele, oom meen maar net hopelik sal dinge bietjie verander. Teen die tempo gaan geen SA span die finaal sien nie. Opslet is maar dieselfde as pakgee jong

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 20:14

      @EFFEL - Ok, so you have the following nics on here: 1) EFFEL 2) The Fake Mike@CapeT, and 3) The fake Cliff Bradley, and now Oom Christo. Hell dude, I was half joking with my sociopath/sadist jibes I'm a little concerned. You don't have MPD (fact) as each one of your online personalities is exactly the same: vulgar, guttural, abusive, dimwitted. But as a diagnosis I ain't ruling out: 'totally fried in the engine room'......Enjoy old Effel, whatever makes your dirkie happy old chap.

      w.changes - 2011-04-10 20:15

      Dis Rugus OOM... hier vloek en skreeu ons vir ons spanne.. Daarna, braai ons vleis, drink n paar biere, ens wag virrie volgende game..

      Oom Christo - 2011-04-10 20:57

      Ou wchanges, daar's nie probleme om te skree vir die span van jou keuse nie ouboet, hou net so bietjie terug met die onder-die-belt stories man. Ketotter en peester is nie mooi nie. En ou dokter Duanerocks, dankie vir al die gratis diagnosis hier man, jy spaar my baie geld. Jy's seker net so slim soos die regte Duane

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 21:07

      @EFFEL - ek moet se dit is nogals pret om heeltyd reg te wees......jy en jou verskillende "naampies". Try a little harder not to be caught out so easily......

      Oom Christo - 2011-04-10 21:17

      Ou Duanerocks, oom Christo is 'n redelike geduldige man maar ek gaan nie vir my hier laat uitlok nie. Ek het in 1946 vir Spoorwee gestoei, so as jy nou aanhou neuk met my gaan jy erens verskriklik hard teen die oor gedoos raak mannetjie.

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 21:22

      @Effel - en nou moet ek 'n paar genuine online predators gaan uitlok. Ek hoop jy en dirkie geniet die aand verder.

  • Eugene - 2011-04-10 19:25

    Drop the bulls from the Springboks.... Mattfield is such a "poser."

  • Azurite - 2011-04-10 19:38

    JJ you SUCK at writing.

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 20:20

      @Azurite: Nope, the Bulls SUCKED at 'rugby' yesterday, but they were frikkin AWESOME as spectators.......(they didn't boo, they were silent during Berquists kicks, they clapped and cheered as SBW ran through Turnstyle 'B' Meisiekind - and that obnoxious SBW didn't even give Meisiekind his ticket to tjap....)

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 20:35

      Azurite: I am writer myself (as you should know!)and a fan of JJ's work. Please would you mind stating exactly why, in your opinion, he is not a good writer? I thought that the above article was not good, but excellent.

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 20:35

      Azurite: I am writer myself (as you should know!)and a fan of JJ's work. Please would you mind stating exactly why, in your opinion, he is not a good writer? I thought that the above article was not good, but excellent.

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-10 20:50

      Azurite: I am writer myself (as you should know!)and a fan of JJ's work. Please would you mind stating exactly why, in your opinion, he is not a good writer? I thought that the above article was not good, but excellent.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 10:10

      Bulls and Stormers = Palooooookas...!!!

  • Robschele - 2011-04-10 19:46

    Like the woman in O'Hagan's said: The Bulls don't have balls. Has anybody seen JohnnyBB around. Maybe he is still locked up in the bottlestore since Saturday morning. Someone need to tell him he can come out. The Stormers also lost.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-04-10 20:39

      Actually, the only one hanging around is Fake Mike - seems he is too stupid to understand/suffering a hangover!

  • Vincent - 2011-04-10 20:06

    Bulls going all da way downnnnn, is to be expected with all the old crocs, selectors must wake up can't take them to da world cup .

  • w.changes - 2011-04-10 20:11

    Remove HASBEEN Matfield...... Brought shoulders with toothpick legs.... Take him OUT... BAKKIES for CAP...!!!

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 10:11

      ...and remove Ludeke, Spies, Du Preez and Olivier...!! ...asap....!!

  • Spitfire - 2011-04-10 20:27

    South African backline play dates back to the dinosaur era.No innovation/creativity/ability to beat the opposition with speed,wicked step -whatever it takes/lack of vision. It start with mentality where we are taught to listen and not think for ourselves. No one in the bulls team can come to the conclusion that kicking away all the possession is an outdated way of playing.The kiwi teams will simply secure possession and run it back at you.They might not breach your defence the f1st time running it back but the gaps will open after enough phases. I look at their creativity/vission/ability to step and we are F$%^#ing light yeras behind. The only reason we have featured in th eworld cup is that a defence orientated game plan(Our strenght-please do not ask us to score tries) generally works better. Alot like major golf where the stakes are to high,you shoot for the middle of the green-you don`t play an expansive brand throwing the double skip pass to the wing that drifts. If NZ can overcome that mental barrier and say to themselves to just go out there and play a expansive less structure orientated game against us and get right on the big stage-15-20 points,it not more the difference. Backs in SA.F#$%#ck it all.Go out there and try emulate, benchmark yourselves against the best in the business and try something new. Benchmark: Distribution Stephen Larkham Step:Hosea Gear,Ben Tune/Campese in their prime,Quade Cooper Vision:Michael du Plessis, Sege Blanco, Defence:Frank Bunce

      Spitfire - 2011-04-10 20:37

      before the grammar police gets to and start should be starts.typing with 2 fingers a painful process.

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 20:58

      @Spitfire, I nearly spat blood on the stands at Newlands yesterday when I saw the Stormers 'trying' to do the kick/chase thing........In any event - the hassle with SA rugby at the moment is: P Divvy and certain senior players have made it KNOWN that the Boks will doing the usual this year, just with better execution than last year....(not sure whether to laugh or cry...) So forget about expansive anything...Divvy WANTED to play expansively when he took over - and he was crucified(yet in one great game against OZ we looked uber-expansive & we got a great result), so he went back to the boring. That all worked well for a little while...then end 2009 it already started going pear shaped....Then last year when quite a few Stormers were brought into the Bok squad - there was trouble...The Stormers wanted to give the expansive stuff a crack, and senior Bulls players wanted the skop and jag. Skop and jag won. And that is how the Boks will play it, as certain as death and taxes my friend.

      Oom Christo - 2011-04-10 21:10

      En moenie vir Pierre Spies en Derrick Kuun weggooi nie, hulle visie op die veld gaan ons nog die wereldbeker wen

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 09:18

      SAFFA only sharks and stormers can win the WC, we play a similar game, defensive and attacking... All the bulls do is say hey we don't want this ball, kick away, let all their forwards attack for 20 minutes to get it back pass to steyn, no I don't want this, kick away... PATHETIC.... thats what I say... you win rugby by ball in hand, maybe one up and under if the other team is RATTLED and under pressure it can work... but if its early in the game and they charged it will not work!!!!!

  • DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 21:29

    Here's my team for the worldcup, what do you guys think? 15) Zane Kirchner 14)Bjorn Basson 13) Wynand Olivier 12) Jacques Fourie 11) Mvovo 10) Morne Steyn 9) Fourie 8) Pierre Spies 7) Alberts 6) Schalk Burger 5)Victor 4) Bakkies 3) Beast 2) Gary Botha 1) Guthro

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 21:33

      @EFFEL - I would rather chew razor blades.......Spies at 8? Olivier at 13 - when he can't even play 12? Oh dear Xmas stars. Go to sleep Effel (and take Dirkie with you...)

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 21:37

      You probably want Duane at scrumhalf

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-10 21:39

      And it's "Dirk" for you. Or Sir Dirkie

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 09:19

      Erm, no Bismark at hooker? LOL...

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 09:20

      Zane at fullback? sorry no way, Aplon yes....

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 09:21

      Morne at 10 when he can't play rugby at present? no thank, Grant opening Lambie on the bench...

      georgemtem - 2011-04-11 10:15

      r u smoking a cheap drugs??.....only number 6 & 11 should remain, the rest should b relegated to vodacom cup,,,,,

      Wayne Hawkey - 2011-04-11 10:56

      you have 10 bulls in this team.... after this performance??? i dont think so!

  • Atoombom - 2011-04-10 21:58

    I see dead people

  • Punani - 2011-04-10 22:09

    What a great article that has given me much satisfaction. The arrogance of the Bulls players and their obnoxious supporters has finally caught up to them. I hope that very few Bulls players get the opportunity to trash the Springbok jersey the way that they have disgraced their powder blue jersey at this year's World Cup.

      Clayton - 2011-04-11 09:19

      Your an idiot.

  • Kevin - 2011-04-11 01:40

    As a crusaders fan living in Christchurch I say to you, don't worry about the pathetic state of south african rugby, when it comes to the springboks Peter de villiers will sort it all out!!! hahahahahahahahahaha breath hahahahahahahaha breath stomach hurts.....GO ABs!!

      DUANEROCKS - 2011-04-11 02:34

      Are you Ex-South African? If so then I'd love to help you out with a PK.

      Kevin - 2011-04-11 03:32

      No I'm a kiwi

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-04-11 07:35

      What do you mean sorry state? As I recall up until last week we were still top of the combined log? you're counting your chickens chop. Just like every world cup since '87. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You need to worry about the French first before you worry about the Boks! hahaha

      Llewelyn - 2011-04-11 08:31

      Pieter has nothing to do with how players play .The players are the useless ones Hahahahahahahah... I still for fact will state It ,Your AB's will NOT win the worldcup your chokers...HAhahahahahahahah.....

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 08:36

      @Kevin MWHAHAHAHHAHAH, we have much better players that you sheep herders, we going to smash you this year, trust me on that... I hope the stormers eat you apart, to keep you mouth shut...

      Mishka - 2011-04-11 14:07

      Dear Kevin, your stomach probably hurts from the amount of 'enemas' you insert. Well, you did call yourself a fruit dear - Kiwi. Now go and play with the girls and leave the SA men to utilise their testosterone the way they do best, insulting each other, berating each other, ignoring their wives (thank goodness I'm NOT one of them lol)........... Comment on something on your little Island and leave our South African MEN, not fruits, to their pleasure.

  • BAZZAMACKENZIE - 2011-04-11 04:24

    Boys, settle, Die blow masjien vs die rooi masjien satdee noit.....REDS BY 80+...

  • michael - 2011-04-11 07:34

    i love it when the bulls lose and i love even more when they get 0 hahahahaha

  • Toby - 2011-04-11 07:40

    Rugby is a popular game with all South Africans (toss in a few Kiwi's as well) The efforts of some "senior" players were more pathetic than an average primary school under 13 C team. Across the Super 15 competition the so called "players of note" in the South African teams did not deserve to be picked and should have their match fee cancelled. NB Spies, Olivier Habana Smit etc

  • Marx - 2011-04-11 07:41

    Well, Let me start by sharing my disbelief and utter frustration to what must have been the worst attempt to play rugby by a side with a fullhouse of Bokke. Actually I'm speechless, is there any words to say ?....unproffesional, total lack of commitment, non existing game plan, no Captain leading from the front, total lack of skills etc etc etc. WTF has these guys been doing in the off season, WTF are they doing now? Had they lost by 5 points, one would have thought, okay, not too bad, but this ? The only thing that's positive at this time is that it hardly can get worse, there's still a lot of rugby to be played, they can still turn it around, come on boys, we still believe!!!

      sonnyg - 2011-04-11 08:07

      I have a feeling we have to have a long look at the coaching staff. There game plan which they copied from Meyer is not working anymore and they dont have the ability to change. Pretty much like the boks at this point. A decent coach should be able to adapt but I have a feeling the senior players also dont want to adapt.

  • sonnyg - 2011-04-11 08:03

    Yeah I have a feeling somebody has swapped the bulls Testosterone supplements with estrogen supplements.

  • Raka13 - 2011-04-11 08:31

    Ludeke's coaching skills and team selections are seriously starting to show - bring back Meyer.

      GILLBERT - 2011-04-11 09:03

      it seems that all sa coaches dont know when to drop players.... time to drop olivier for watermayer and pretorius for dippenaar.... give the younger guys a chance and let the seniors play their way back in to the starting line up

  • Rickesa - 2011-04-11 08:38

    And also, now is the time to get rid of Bakkies. He is living off past glory in Matfields waning shadow. You have a ready made thug on the bench in Roussow who is a much better ball carrier and I would start Bekker everytime. Also, get rid of Steyn to thebench and start Lambie. All the crap about him being to young is nonsense, how do you blood these youngsters otherwise!!! Just look at Carter, Wilkinson, Scott Gibbs and Neil Jenkins to name a few, started young and became the best in the business.

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 09:24

      Bekker to replace matfield, he is more lethal in a lineout and he is not afraid to actually catch a ball, Matfield is so scared that he isn't even taking the jump anymore... pathetic if you ask me...

  • Clayton - 2011-04-11 08:47

    this journalist is an idiot! probably been waiting 4 years to write this article. This bulls team has been consistently good for the last 2 seasons (I concede they have not been particularly great this year) but to put them to the sword for one terrible game. I'm afraid all this article tells us is that Mr Harmse is a rugby illiterate.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-11 09:06

      @Clayton - JJ Harmse is officially the BIGGEST Bulls fan in the country mate....He is just hurting....

      rugby_guru - 2011-04-11 09:23

      Erm, catch a wakeup, you got trashed this whole season and the Trinations and GrandSlam, you disgraced the country by kicking the ball away... The bulls disgrace the bok name... FACT NOT FICTION...

      Marx - 2011-04-11 09:32

      Clayton, unfortunately we are not in the last 2 seasons but in the current season....the Bulls have been pathetic this season, they praised themselves for beating the Canes!! They should have thumped them!! Obviously something huge must be wrong behind the scenes. I wonder what Matfield said to Olivier when they stood behind the post, I tried to read their lips.......seker maar...."jy speel darem k*k nè, nee man ek gaan jou wys, na die afskop sal ek die k*kste op die veld wees" !!!!!!!!!!

      JACKHAMMER - 2011-04-11 09:35

      This journo is correct in what he is saying

      Clayton - 2011-04-11 10:31

      I am not disputing that the Bulls were terrible on Saturday, or the whole season for that matter. My point is that as a member of the Media you would think he would write an article more objectively and with a little more insight. A 10 year old could have written this article after watching Saturdays game.

  • ohannah - 2011-04-11 09:03

    Overpaid, overhyped bunch of over-the-hill players. If snorman plays this bunch of geriatrics at the world cup, we're dead

  • ohannah - 2011-04-11 09:03

    Overpaid, overhyped bunch of over-the-hill players. If snorman plays this bunch of geriatrics at the world cup, we're dead

  • ohannah - 2011-04-11 09:05

    Overpaid, overhyped bunch of over-the-hill players. If snorman plays this bunch of geriatrics at the world cup, we're dead

      GILLBERT - 2011-04-11 09:10

      the boks are dead any way.... snorre doesnt need geriatrics he just needs to be there

  • pop101 - 2011-04-11 09:08

    Jaaaa Boet....maak al die Bulle Bokke....asseblief!

  • NV - 2011-04-11 09:19

    I'm not a Bulls fan, but I think the players are fatigued, especially the forwards. We are simply playing to much rugby.

  • JACKHAMMER - 2011-04-11 09:33

    Today is humble pie day and as promissed i will admit it when i were wrong 1.Pierre Spies is a show pony as pointed out on this site,1 point to SAFFA CAT 2.Olivier should leave rugby with immediate effect,1 point to SAFFA CAT 3.Du Preez should concider a career change,traffic? or acting,1.point to SAFFA CAT The rest of the Bulls pensioners should make way for Vodacom youngsters who realy want to play the game and have the will to win,being 3x times champs seems like the team doesnt have the will to win. As for my prediction that Reds wil win by 12,i slipped up by one,and my statement"the losing is reserved for the arrogant one",That said its not nice to see SA teams on the losing side of this weekend. SAFFA CAT this is my last comment on this site ,as i do not have any more eagerness to defend ,promote or comment on my beloved Bulls anymore,will allways support them as for the fake alias dude,boasting about spanking your monkey on this site is sickening and you should concider a psycologist as you are one weir sick individual,and leave other peoples profile names alone 3.

      JACKHAMMER - 2011-04-11 09:53

      O and SAFFA ,You should concider entering the lady rugga comp ,youre rugby knowledge is good and you will do well

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 10:14

      ...Bulls = bunch of has-beens...!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-11 10:24

      @Alwyn - A white flag? Holy Hillbillies.....No man Alwyn, there is so much rugby still to be played........Stick around man, the entertainment on this forum is priceless. @Guru - Where is Dave the Bul? @JohnnyBB - ok, now I know its Groundhog whinging about SPIES?

      gooinat - 2011-04-11 10:37

      @Saffa, morning,the fastest gunslinger lives another day LMAO

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-11 10:43

      @Gooinat - whilst watching that game, I was shouting out those "wise words" of P Divvy's....even my hubby and his mates have started with the "fastest gunslinger eventually dies" cheer, as soon as SBW gets the ball........(I don't even think he showed Meisiekind his entrance ticket when he ran through that turnstyle defence....)

      gooinat - 2011-04-11 10:55

      I think SBW had a free pass ticket during that game,meisiekind should consider a career in showbiz,that apparent slip when SBW came through was Oscar material:)

  • georgemtem - 2011-04-11 09:46

    bulls thugs r lucky carter and richie were not playing otherwise the score would have been 49-0. As for flip, he was showed how soft he is, Pathetic display frm the PTA side who are the current tournament chaps or should i say chimps...,. Im a big fan of saders but wanted them not to get any easey victory. Stormers u r nxt inline of baptisim by Saders. 1st it was sharks and now bulls. As for Lions and cheetahs its a done deal for the two struggling SA franchises.....

  • ohannah - 2011-04-11 09:56

    Overpaid, overhyped bunch of over-the-hill players. If snorman plays this bunch of geriatrics at the world cup, we're dead

      JohnnyBB - 2011-04-11 10:13

      .......send Matfield to retirement, ..and Bakkies, Du preez and Olivier to Japan...!!!

  • - 2011-04-11 10:12

    Being a big Stormer's supporter , I wont take a hit at the Bulls this time cause the Stomers Played just as KUK. Leave's me wondering , we all know PDV has no coaching ability whatsoever and now his gonna try get the best out of Stomers and Bulls player's who are playing with no F*&king heart. Our beloved Web Ellis Cup seems to be fading into the night.....

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-11 10:46

      @Vallemj - don't worry mate. P Divvy has guaranteed us that {even the fastest gunslinger dies eventually"......

  • Chris - 2011-04-11 10:26

    No, JJ, maybe YOU have lost the plot somewhat. While I agree that it was a VERY sub-par performance from a team currently hardly worthy of the "defending champs"-tag, I cannot disagree more about Pierre Spies, Fourie du Preez and Wynand Olivier having "lost the plot". Anyone can see that our man-mountain Pierre Spies has two defenders assigned to him and that is why he is not often getting over the advantage-line anymore - but this has its obvious advantages. Wynand Olivier is admittedly not at the top of his game, but he did make some good line breaks for a change, just didn't offload at the right times. As for Fourie, I thought he was as sharp as ever and hardly put a foot wrong. The Crusaders is simply a class act and it will take a momentous effort from any team, including the Stormers, to prevent them from lifting the trophy this year. The Bulls coughed up many balls, but this was a team effort and can not be pinned on to any specific player. It was also thanks to some awesome man-and-ball tackling from the Crusaders. Hats off to the Crusaders, and I'm confident these boys will make you eat your words sooner than later.

      Marx - 2011-04-11 13:00

      Chris, so if you know two defenders will be coming your way(Spies), shouldn't you change the plan ??? There's a plan A for the Bulls..........nothing else, that's the big problem!!! Will the Crusaders go down 27-0 at Loftus, not likely my friend. The Saders run the ball for 50-70 metres without one tackle being made by the Bulls, they get acres of space to move the ball, the Bulls hardly get the ball past the centres....shall I go on?? The basics, that's what the Saders are the Masters at.

      Chris - 2011-04-11 13:18

      Marx, Uhhmm, no. I mentioned "obvious advantages", but maybe they weren't so obvious to you. Do the math... If it takes two defenders to take him down, then it creates extra space for other attackers. Spies is a master at carrying the ball and placing it when he goes down, and that is the reason why he is selected. As for the rest, maybe you misunderstood my comments about "very sub-par" and "hardly worthy of"? I am NOT saying the Bulls played well, but that JJ's wrath was in my humble opinion misguided. The Saders are definitely masters at the basics as you put it, but believe me, they are masters of much more than just that. Respect!

  • jb642390 - 2011-04-11 10:46

    I'm wondering what's actually going on? Have they also watched too much Dexter, now they're murdering the game of rugby?

  • jb642390 - 2011-04-11 10:46

    I'm wondering what's actually going on? Have they also watched too much Dexter, now they're murdering the game of rugby?

  • jb642390 - 2011-04-11 10:47

    I'm wondering what's actually going on? Have they also watched too much Dexter, now they're murdering the game of rugby?