Bulls expect sterner test

2012-04-04 22:31

Cape Town - Bulls coach Frans Ludeke believes their Super Rugby clash against the Crusaders on Saturday could be even more challenging than their derby against the Stormers last week.

Ludeke decided to stick with the starting team that lost 20-17 at Newlands when he named his side on Wednesday.

The Crusaders are starting to find their rhythm, especially with All Black pivot Dan Carter back from a long injury layoff.

"The Crusaders will pose even more challenges than the Stormers, even though the game is at Loftus Versfeld.

"They have heaps of All Blacks of which many were part of the team that won the World Cup barely six months ago.

"The Crusaders have skills and temperament, so our rugby and execution would have to be faultless. It's important that we keep winning, especially at home," Ludeke told Beeld.

Ludeke was unhappy with their error count against the Stormers last week but is confident the issue has been addressed properly.

“On Saturday discipline cost us, and penalty kicks were the major difference between the two sides," Ludeke told SAPA.

"Fourteen penalties (conceded) was not good enough.

“There were some silly penalties and it is a thing that we need to totally get out of our game.

“This weekend it will be vital again and I believe the players will clear up their act at the breakdown, scrum time, wherever in the game,” said Ludeke.

The clash kicks off at 17:05 on Saturday.



15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (captain), 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 CJ Stander, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling

Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 Arno Botha, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 JJ Engelbrecht



  • Saffa - 2012-04-04 22:42

    The only thing that was tough against the Stormers was Craig Joubert

      Johannes - 2012-04-04 22:48

      laydies go on and on like you rugby is not for sisies

      Saffa - 2012-04-04 23:01

      @Johannes Have I mentioned that the Stormers are 16 years cupless?

      Francois - 2012-04-04 23:47

      I guess you also should not - but even saying it in the negative you are in fact saying it. Let us quickly get to one of two potential problems with your statement regarding the 16 years: 1) Who won the Currie Cup in 2000 and 2) What is 2012 - 2000? The first answer will reveal your lack of general knowledge and the second your lack of mathematical ability and maybe we will be delighted this evening and have both shown up. It is sad that the WP are cupless for such a long time and maybe they will stay for some time more, especially if a coach defends his team after playing only 60 min of each match by saying: "We are still on top of the log" or if his team does not score 4 tries in a match with "We are still on top of the log" - the thing is Allister, second place is the first loser and second place is the team that looses in the final - not who is top of the log when it decided who will play in the Round of 6 - then you, Allister, maybe looking for those bonus points.

      Saffa - 2012-04-05 00:10

      @Francois Maybe you should go read what I said again, I said "Stormers" They have played in the Super competition for 16 years now and never won it. Talk about lack of general knowledge!

      Francois - 2012-04-05 00:55

      The Stormers only started to play in 1998 - prior to that the CC teams played in the super competition? The Bulls deservedly won Superrugby 3 times and it was not only good for the Bulls, but for the whole of SA, especially that first one. I hope that they can continue to play well and put the Crusaders to the sword this coming Saturday. If the Stormers are cupless for even 16 years or for that matter, since Creation, what is the relevance to the article? None of the Stormer or Bulls players of 16 years ago are playing anymore and purely the move from Newlands to Loftus will make the Bulls a different kettle of fish.

      Saffa - 2012-04-05 01:16

      @Francois Isn't JdV still left from 16 yr ago? I mean judging by his speed he must be in his early 50's now

      Francois - 2012-04-05 06:28

      What is the relevance of your statement to the article: Bulls expect sterner test? (Jean deVilliers started to get noticed roundbout 2002 and was selected to play France by Stroilie, but was injured in that test and did not participate in the 2003 WC, Jake selected him as wing in 2004 with De Wet Barry on inside centre - not that that has anything to do with the article: Bulls expect sterner test - do you have anything to say about that?)

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-05 07:48

      The ref was a bit harsh on the Bulls yes.

      steyts - 2012-04-05 08:40

      The ref was very harsh on the stormers as well in the 2010 Super rugby final in Soweto... And guess what, it was Craig Joubert!! What goes around comes around... If this weekend will ne harder then basically what he is saying is that they will lose even further!!!! For goodness sake Ludeke, have some belief in your own pathetic little bunch of pink retards...

      pieter.thefuture - 2012-04-05 09:17

      @Fake Saffa - troll much? let me give away your little game - you are not a true bull supporter - a bull supporter would be more concerned with the bulls - not with the stormers. I understand a few comments about an opposition team here and there, but I challenge you to show me one article where you have posted that does not somewhere state anything negative about the stormers(and I mean you fake saffa, not real saffa) - you are anti-stormers, and only pro-bulls cause you think that will annoy stormers fans - you most likely live in bellville. If the sharks won the super15 5 times in a row and became the top SA side, I am willing to bet you will troll as a sharks fan.

      Simon - 2012-04-05 09:18

      Currie Cup titles : WP 32 en Blue Bulls 23. Eina!

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-05 09:24

      @Simon, oh dear, is that ALL you've got!!! Good on you. It is hardly IMPOSSIBLE to partake in a competition when you don't even exist. But hold onto that, its all you have. LMAO - Enjoy

      steyts - 2012-04-05 09:36

      @blueraven I am getting sick of most (not all) bulls fans who will never just admit that they lost fair and square (which it never is if Craig Joubert is the ref because he is USELESS!!!)...

      Terence - 2012-04-05 09:40

      René you said it like it is. Good.

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-05 10:40

      @Terence, I always do. Enjoy the weekend & GO BULLS!

      Jco - 2012-04-05 22:44

      @ Simon, jy het dit verkeerd, iewers verstaan jy iets nie lekker nie! Jy noem WP 32 bekers en Blou Bulle 23 bekers. Ons weet daar is die Bulle (Super 15 Span) maar ek weet nou regtig nie waar is die WP nie. Ek weet daar is 'n Stormer (Super 15 Span). Ek weet jare terug was daar 'n Noord Transvaal span wat in 1938 ontstaan het en 'n WP span en Griekwas span en een of twee ander wat so 'n bietjie meer as 'n honderd jaar terug ontstaan het. Praat jy van hul? Dit is nou die Stormers and Bulle, word wakker asb! Hoe lyk die statistieke nou, 'n gelyke foet! Kom ons praat nou, na Stormers, Sharks, Lions, Bulle en Cheatas saam op die toneel verskyn het, hoe lyk die statistieke nou?

  • Ken - 2012-04-04 23:01

    I was going to comment on the article but the brainless bleeder Saffa just spoilt it for me!....I want to talk rugby not childish dribble!

      Francois - 2012-04-05 00:59

      Dunno. Except for the ref, what you are you, Saffa, on about? Got anything to say about the article?

      Saffa - 2012-04-05 01:30

      @Francois What article?

      Francois - 2012-04-05 06:22

      Malema demands to be heard? You did not say anything about the Stormers on that one.

  • Simon - 2012-04-04 23:11

    Die man raak slimmer by die dag. So met ander woorde : Die Bulle gan verder verloor. Goeie werk

      Francois - 2012-04-04 23:54

      Doubt it, Simon, high altitude, home ground, Crusaders without McCaw - the game maybe tougher than last week, but one never writes off the Bulls especially at Loftus. Go Bulls - put them on the plane back thinking: "Where did all the confidence go," or "What was that?"

      joneethling - 2012-04-05 00:53

      Shame Saffa, julle is nie gewoond daaraan dat Craig regverdig blaas nie.

      Terence - 2012-04-05 06:28

      John, I think it was in 2010 that the Bulls lost 2 consectitve games on tour, with Craig Joubert officiating in both of them. We've never actually seen him blow fair.

      Simon - 2012-04-05 09:16

      Bulle en refs, ja jong. Kom ons praat eerder oor die weer

  • Henk - 2012-04-04 23:46

    To all Stormers/WP fans who claim the Bulls always has and still plays the same style of rugby. 2001 was your last Currie Cup win, since then the Bulls won it 4 times, shared it once and won the Super Rugby title 3 times! Oh yes, I almost forgot, you also played in 2 finals (yes only 2) since then, and managed to lose both with your oh so brilliant variety and exciting rugby! I feel sorry for you okes. A team in their prime (without Schalk) against a team who is still building after losing a lot of key players and barely scraping through in a home game, must be very exciting come the future. Scoff, laugh, insult or do whatever you want but even if you don't want to admit it, there must be a lot of worries in the Cape camp. Maybe your game plan should change boys...

      Francois - 2012-04-05 00:48

      Henk if you are so at the stats: What was the average age of each team on Saturday? I think you will be surprised, the average age will not differ by more than 18 months if that much. The Stormers/ WP does not need a new game plan, they need a coach who can coach and administration that runs the game for the benefit of the game and not for themselves and for hidden political agendas. Then I did not quite get your argument on the finals: Does it include CC finals, not that it will make too much of a dent in your argument.

      WernerZA - 2012-04-05 03:48

      Rassie knew what he was doing when he head for the hills! The cape team may win something somewhere, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut... On Sat the bulls tried to play rugby an score tries... The stormers were content to take penalties... But maybe that was because they couldn't get into the bulls's 22. Bottom line, I'd love for the stormers to keep on playing their \attractive\ rugby. That will ensure a great future for the \boring\ try scoring machine... The BULLS!

      Alan - 2012-04-05 06:48

      maybe they should start thinking about an overall management change as well with the stupid comments made by the COACH we are still on top of the log how doff must you be or did he kearn from the past spingbok/protea coach LOL HAHHHAHAHAHAHAA CUPLISS

  • joneethling - 2012-04-05 01:02

    Meyer is right. The Crusaders have shown that they are a tough team when they have their backs to the wall.

      Saffa - 2012-04-05 01:46

      @Johnnie boy Is jy verveeld? Jy herhaal net wat ander se. Of net onnosel?

      joneethling - 2012-04-05 14:50

      Verveeld Saffa, die onnosel laat ek aan jou oor, want waneer dit by onnosel kom, is jy die meester.

  • CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-05 07:50

    If Bulls keep their penalties in check, they'll stampede over the Crusaders. Loftus has not been a happy place for the crusaders in the last 5 years.

  • Russell - 2012-04-05 08:44

    Bulls rule.Period.

      joneethling - 2012-04-05 14:55

      They ruled on Saturday? I don't think so.

  • steyts - 2012-04-05 09:58

    @Rene - As julle die heeltyd aangaan oor bekers wat julle al gewen het wat anyway nie meer in julle kas is nie dan kan die WP ondersteuners seker maar dieselfde doen. Al is dit 120 jaar gelede se beker...

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-05 10:45

      @steyts, ai ai ai!!! Ons ou trofee kassie sal NOOOOOIT leeg wees nie! Die 2010 Trofee sal daar staan, al staan ek en jy nie meer nie. Maar dis nou nie die punt nie is dit??? Daar sal nog vele bygevoeg word.

      Jco - 2012-04-05 12:39

      Daar is nie meer 'n WP span nie, lankal nie meer nie! Weer Probeer is lankal dood! Die Bulle kan met trots noem dat hul die meeste bekers gewen het! Hul het die bekers as Bulle gewen! Of hul nou in pink speel of in blou, kyk na die record boeke soos Danie Craven gese het! Hier praat ons nou nie as Noord Transvaal nie, maar Bulle! Dit sal al die Stormers 'n goeie selfbeeld gee om hierdie jaar te wen! Maar die beker word seker later gewen!

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