All not lost for Bulls

2011-04-17 15:09

JJ Harmse

The king is dead, long live the king?
The defending champion Bulls may be on a slippery slide in this year's version of Super Rugby, but make no mistake, they are by no means knocked down just yet.
Their 30-39 defeat to the Reds may well have been their second in a row on their Australasian tour, but the Bulls were very competitive right until the end in a thrilling game, in which the Reds will know just how lucky they were to win.
Six tries to three may show that the homeside, who picked up their sixth win on the trot, had to much firepower for the Bulls, but at least two of those tries should never have been.
Firstly, referee Bryce Lawrence robbed the Bulls when he decided a scrum ball from the Reds went out at the mouth, and shortly afterwards Zane Kirchner's defender never let him go after a tackle. Both these circumstances led to tries by the Reds, where the Bulls should have received the put-ins.
However, let bygones be bygones.
Some teams get more luck than others, and these things tend to cancel each other out over a series of 21 weeks.
The Reds are currently getting the luck of the bounce, but the Bulls know that their goddess of fortune should not be far away.
The Bulls are making a lot fewer mistakes, and with a game against a very beatable Force outfit in Perth next week, they could still be very much in the hunt once they return to home soil.

Initially, the game looked like a tight affair, until Quade Cooper's brilliant trickery completely bamboozled Pierre Spies to give the Reds a lead they would never surrender.

A second Reds try just before halftime after a ugly error from Bjorn Basson threatened to derail the Bulls completely, but the winger immediately made amends when he spectacularly leaped to catch the ball from the following kick-off to score in the corner and reduce the deficit to just 13-17 at the break.

But, two refereeing blunders cost the Bulls dearly, and in both instances Luke Morahan scored for the Reds.

Having said that, credit should still be given to the fullback, as in both instances he finished brilliantly to make the Bulls defenders look rather average.

A try by Reds wing Digby Ioane, after the Bulls were solidly on the attack, was a clear reflection of what has been wrong with the Bulls this season.

They were attacking fiercely close to the Reds goalline, when a wayward pass ended up in a Reds hand and enabled Ioane to kick the ball upfield and score 70 metres further.

With the Bulls desperately seeking a bonus point after a Danie Rossouw try got them back in the picture, a James Horwill try after another bit off opportunism finally put paid to the Bulls challenge.

For the Bulls, Basson's finishing was excellent, while Wynand Olivier and Pierre Spies performed much better than the previous week.

However, their best performer was Dean Greyling, and it's no coincidence that he's also the player with the least experience, but with the most passion and heart.


  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-17 15:26

    Anyone else notice the obstruction the Reds got away with again? Just like last week (then again you Bulls chaps didn't want to hear about it then, maybe this week you'll agree?) When will the Reds be blown up for this? When they play the Saders possibly? Bulls were better, but sorry JJ, Oliver and He-Man remain woeful....Basson is the real deal - now if he could just jack up on his defence. Cheetahs - playing such NZ style rugga, wonderful to watch...but without the defence to back it up, it means zero. Depressing indeed, more so for those who slammed Ollie last week for stating the obvious..... Stormers - if my boys want to be there at the end - I suggest they use their 2 weeks off wisely. Granted there were a few disruptions/changes etc, but no excuse for leaving at least 4 tries on the field-no excuse at all. Bad luck for young Gary, but good to see Lionel get a run at 10(considering he has been playing at 15 all season). I think he can be well satisfied with his performance. The team as a whole shouldn't be satisfied at all - and I doubt they are. A little bit of soul searching required. The nice thing: Jean, Peter, Elstadt and co will be WELLLLLLLLLLL rested (hopefully not 2 rusty) when we meet the Sharks in 2 weeks. At least we got 4 points :) The BYE coming up will be appreciated by fans lsuch as I - my nerves need a weekend off.

      WPBEFONK - 2011-04-17 16:14

      I agree, let's enjoy the break and get back FRESH and READY to GO. Even though we did not impress yesterday against the Lions, we are by FAR the BEST SA team in this year's Super competition.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-17 16:30

      @WPBEFONK - Indeed. A good rest and then Sharks, Saders and the tour....If anyone had told me we would be topping the SA conference at the halfway stage pre-season - helllllllllll, I would have been STOKED. (So I guess we are nitpicking a bit about the things that need some work & improvement....) Fact remains, with all our "weaknesses" perceived or otherwise, we are top in SA at the halfway stage. And that deserves a huge, "Cheers" :)

      Jack Turner - 2011-04-18 06:46

      Big Deal.....Why dont you appoint yourself the spokesman for S.A.R.F.U.......

      richard.vonschumann - 2011-04-18 08:38

      We now have a good foundation. Now comes the hard work portion of the season. We needs to pull up our socks as the tour is going to be tough. I hope the Bulls start playing better. It is sad to see a team which has done so well in the past in such bad form.

      Damian@bulls - 2011-04-18 08:42

      saffac i agree 100% m8 well said. I am a bull, but i believe our hope for super 15 glory will be on the stormers! The bulls must now take each game and build on it, and give the younger guys a go

      Damian@bulls - 2011-04-18 08:47

      Spies were better but he made vital errors when we were going forward.! meisiekind ( kan iemand hom asseblief net wakker bliksem)! victor no good, really no good, it just seems he connot take contact anymore. - 2011-04-18 09:24

      @ SAFFA-CAT & WPBEFONK, yes you are in the lead at the moment but still have to tour and play the crusaders and sharks. Those will be pretty tough times ahead...

      molefeP - 2011-04-18 09:52

      Morning SAFFA, So the one game whare my Bulls actually pitch up to play...... and Eksdom ensures that I cannot watch. Let us hope that ALL the SA teams improve. Sounds like the Lions poured their whole heart into the game.

      Clayton - 2011-04-18 13:27

      @ Saffa-cat, I do definitely agree with you, Alister Coetzee brought it up before the game last week and he is right. What Australian Commentators refer to as "decoy runners" are actually players running interference. Its something the Brumbies mastered a couple of years ago and the refs don't seem to do anything about it!

  • crocowild - 2011-04-17 15:47

    To believe that the Bulls actually were serious contenders in this match you must have a huge imagination or have been fooled by the close score.Reds were never in danger of losing.Well ,if you are in the Bull s position you would grab at any straw near to you.And Kirschner were running and running again like Forrest Gump,in no particular direction.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-17 16:18

      @Crocowild - when it comes to the Bulls, JJ always sees the glass as half full :) (even if the liquid is leaking out at a rate of knots......the glass remains half full for old BlueJayJay.) The poor sod has a 30 year lease for a rundown shack in which he happily resides, in that poky little dorp they call "Fools Paradise".

      Damian@bulls - 2011-04-18 08:49

      @saffa Come on m8 lol, yes we all know JJ is pro bull, but you guys have alot of those dont you, gary boshoff, stephen nell, louis de villers, and paulse.......

      Blouste-Blou - 2011-04-19 13:37

      And you and the person here below are only the opposite of "pro bull" - and that is absolutely all that you are - anti bull. Could you perhaps also stop being a "poor sod" and add something to the rugby discussion - something that other people could also find interesting?

  • Johan Van Zyl - 2011-04-17 16:08

    I am a bulls supportde but I would be surprized if they make the semis this year...bitter pill to swallow but stormers are way ahead at this point of the game. And in my honest opinion the better team to win from the south african outfits...

      WPBEFONK - 2011-04-17 16:15

      Thank you Johan....

      Johan Van Zyl - 2011-04-17 16:23

      Pardon the spelling

      Krugga - 2011-04-17 16:53

      Johan, not even the best sports teams in the world win every time every season, not the Chicago Bulls (when Jordan and Pippen played), not Man U (but still managed to stay in top 4 for 20+ years). Everybody seems to remember so conveniently the Bulls bad years - 1999 to 2001, but it took them 3 years to rise out of the black hole they were in and once again become SA's best team. We will always be either the best or one of SA's best. Dont forget, it is taking the Stormers 10 years and counting to actually win something, 10 years! Bulls 3, the rest of SA 0 and it will stay like that for 2011. Hou by die Blou!

      Johan Van Zyl - 2011-04-17 17:05

      @Krugga I am still a bulls supporter the point it player seniority, age, experience all counts for the bulls but also against them. They have become to complacent and they will become worse before they get better....touch of reality because as you say they cannot always win...

      Krugga - 2011-04-17 17:37

      Stem saam en ek dink Ludeke die trekpas gee sal die finale skoot wees. Ongelukkig sal die bestuur wag tot dinge eers lelik skeef loop.

      Damian@bulls - 2011-04-18 08:52

      Johan ek net so groot bull en ek stem saam met jou. Ons moet ons span bly support en dan ons gewig agter die stormer manne gooi. Ek wens net mense kan altyd so lekker oor rugby praat en dat mense op die blogs net ophou mekaar slegse en vloek. ons moet leer om ander 'n stukkie son en geluk te gun en ook mekaar se opinies te respekteer.!

      Jean - 2011-04-18 10:19

      @Damian@bulls! Goed gese! Eks ook gatvol vir die ouens wat mekaar so lelik uithaal! Bulls het baie beter gelyk sat! Stormers Groete!

  • Shivermetimb - 2011-04-17 16:44

    They weren't compeitive at all - they relied on the good old SA tactic of "m**r them", while the Reds ran circles around them by using brains as well. Frankly, the Bulls look like a bunch of tired has-beens. SA has zero chance for the World Cup.

  • Ela - 2011-04-17 16:51

    I always was a Blue Bulls suporter. And whatever they will win or not this super 15. Proudly Bulls fan :-)

  • Dolittle - 2011-04-17 17:02

    Hou by die blou!!!

  • stormloop - 2011-04-17 17:47

    best possible super rugby xv 1. beast 2. bismarck 3. owen franks 4. horwill 5. bekker 6. thompson 7. alberts 8. reid 9. genia 10. cooper 11. drew mtchell 12. sonny b williams 13. fourie 14. maitland 15. beale worst possible super rugby xv 1. greyling 2. ralapele 3. kruger 4. bakkies 5. matfield 6. kuun 7. potgieter 8. spies 9. januarie 10. steyn 11.habana 12. olivier 13. pretorius 14. vd heever 15. kirchner

      Bumblebee - 2011-04-17 22:18

      Where are the reserves for the worst XV.

      Mickey Fin - 2011-04-17 22:32

      @ stormloop. You obviously don't know much about rugby. At a fast glance of your best team. You have left out the worlds best flank-Richie Mc Caw and the worlds best flyhalf-Dan Carter. That is why you are not a selector!

      Whatever - 2011-04-19 09:44

      BUMBLEBEE ek sou die reserwes Earl Rose,Phillip Burger,Fourie du Preez,CJ vd Linde,Flip vd Merwe,Gary Botha en Pakslae Rossouw maak.

  • Lefty - 2011-04-17 18:08

    JJ my ou maat, net jy kan die berig skryf. Die Bulle is vodde en flou en daar is geen rede hoekom dinge nou gaan draai nie. Hoor my??

  • Robynsky - 2011-04-17 18:42

    I think JJ has missed the ball here completely, alot like the bulls I have to say. Their season is over, they wont make the semi's they look so tired already, just think what they are going to look like at the end of the season. moeg boeties moeg

  • GREG - 2011-04-17 18:44

    I watch our forwards ending up on the floor, lying there for a few moments before slowly getting up, and casually strolling over to take up a defensive formation... and I ask myself.. is this honestly the best that the mighty Bulls have to offer the world. I wonder how many aimless kicks Ill have to watch being lapped up by opposition backs before someone works out that they are not 50/50 situations if nobody could be bothered chasing them up.. Saying all that I was very pleased to see that the bulls are at least looking a bit hungry for the game. I still wonder who actually runs the show.... The coach.. or Victor ,Bakkies and Fourie...?

  • Tony - 2011-04-17 20:36

    Ja nee wat jong. Tipies JJ Harmse. Soek alewig verskoning vir 'n Bulls verloor. Tipies. Net so goed Ludeke het self die artikel geskryf.

      Damian@bulls - 2011-04-18 08:58

      @ tony tony het julle nie genoeg skrywers aan julle kan nie > \\? gary boshoff, louis de villiers, stephen nell, en paulse, fok man gun ons vir JJ. moenie so subjektief wees nie, elke span het mense wat hulle sal ondersteun net soos die stormers het. los die ou se opinie uit, respekteer dit. Want volgende keer as julle dalk aan die verloor kant uit skryf iemand weer iets pro wp, dis hoe dit werk!. Sterkte vir die stormers. En daar is niks tipies aan die bulle nie, net soos daar niks tipies aan die wp is nie, elke mense is anders, en sien dinge ander, support hulle spanne anders, is arm, ryk, mooi , lelik.! fok man kom ons los mekaar uit en geniet rugby~

      Shistirrer - 2011-04-18 10:00

      Damian - Gary Boshoff en Stephen Nell kan net so 'n klomp stront kwytraak, maar ek wat nie wat JJ "gebruik" nie, daai goed is gevaarlik. Hy het die kuns van "delusional journalism" herdefinieer en sy eie gemaak. Ek dink een van die redes waarom die Bulls so pateties is, is omdat Ludikris JJ se kak lees en dit glo.

      Damian@bulls - 2011-04-18 10:29

      @ Shistirrer LOLOLOLOLOL!! weet jy feiteLOL nee kyk ons media het 'n paar clowns op hulle payrol LOL

      Whatever - 2011-04-19 09:46

      Die ape is onfiks en verlang vir mamma!Bakkies is useless.Kan net 50 minute skoorsoek.Selfs te unfit vir cheapshots.Spies kan nie gedrop word nie hy het n contact hoog op (vingertjie Spies)

  • BardofAvon - 2011-04-17 21:10

    Agreed, JJ... but that's not all: Chilliboy's missed throw on a Bulls penalty lineout in the Reds' 22 also led to a try by the Reds... that's a 14 point swing considering we should have scored from that lineout. Then Spies's knock-on (shown by Naas in his succinct and brillian half-time summary) also cost us 7 points, which would have been a game-changer. It's those stupid mistakes by the Bulls that are costing us. Wake up guys... you are going to run out of time then will need external permutations to get into the last four... which is not the movie we want to be in.

  • Kevin - 2011-04-17 22:26

    As a Kiwi looking on I'd say you desperately need to cull some of the old war horses and replace them with some fresh youth. Great players they may have been for sure, but Matfield, Botha and several others peaked a year or two ago, it's time some hard decisions were made for the better of Bok footy, don't make the mistake the ABs did leading up to the '91 WC when we kept an ageing team together only to be beaten buy an exciting wallabies outfit full of young up and comers!!

  • Mohambry Appavoo - 2011-04-18 01:01

    What a awful article full of excuses, and blaming the referee as usual. the days of up and under rugby is doomed, and rolling maul rugby is also doomed(rugby in slow motion). Can you not see that the South Africans play rugby is boring and their last option is to run the ball. That is why the last WC was so boring as the SAFAS made took rugby back a few years.

      René Müller - 2011-04-18 08:05

      Oh cry me a river! I take it you are a NZ'lander! Win first the WC then you can join the conversation!! CHOKE, CHOKE AGAIN comes to mind! Sorry to be this nasty but the Springboks win when it matters! Focus on your own team(s), leave the Boks alone! Your journalists are as 'one eyed' as you can find, we don't go and 'puke' all over your articles!!

      Kevin - 2011-04-18 08:48

      Actually Rene you guys do, here in NZ our forums are full of expat S Africans bleating on about our ABs and super sides, now I'm happy to do the same's part of the game!!

      Whatever - 2011-04-19 09:48

      O come on Kevin you are just another ex-South African with a kiwi passport believing you are a kiwi!

  • mike - 2011-04-18 03:22

    Good article and was a great game to watch. Bulls showed real improvement and to compete so well with a team firing on all cinlinders after there recent performances was exceptional. If we play like that we will beat most of the teams in the competition and claim a top 6 finish for sure. Lets just hope this was the game to turn the switch on. Some of the guys who have been battling were great on saturday, especially Spies, and we definately missed Jaco's defensive capabilities out wide. Basson is awesome on attack but he needs to show some commitment on defence.

  • boertjie - 2011-04-18 05:43

    To paraphrase: the ref done us in, but the bygones be bygones. The done us in.... Well done Mr Harmse, do you even proof read your articles?

      boertjie - 2011-04-18 06:03

      Sorry that should have read: To paraphrase: the ref done us in, but the bygones be bygones. The ref done us in.... Well done Mr Harmse, do you even proof read your articles? I need to proof read too!

      BCC - 2011-04-18 07:49

      I was just glad to see a south african living up to the reputation of blaming refs for losses rather than the real fact. Well done JJ for being consistent.

      GraemeBB - 2011-04-19 11:56

      @boertlie - Gee, you point that finger, and make the same mistake. Dont you feel like a moron??????????? @BCC, the ref made some blunders, and you cant deny it. It had negative results for the Bulls, I dont think you can deny that iether. It is like the bounce of the ball. Just saying

  • georgemtem - 2011-04-18 07:07

    bulls supporters, its high tym u accept that your luck has disappearded,,,,,u simply suck,,,,,,,,,,,jeepaz creepaz stop blaming the ref for poor fly half thinking......Cooper is in top 3 best fly halves in the world and morne?? Mayb top 35- 50 kikikikikikikikiki

      René Müller - 2011-04-18 07:51

      The BULLS' success was never due to luck!!! I suggest if you cannot contribute sensibly, rather shooosh!! I am not one to blame the ref but Bryce Lawrence should ref school rugby, what a pathetic game he had on Saturday. And yes, his poor performance cost the Bulls, not the Bulls poor performance! And that my friend is a FACT. Do yourself a favour and watch the game again, without your anti Bulls blinkers on!!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-18 08:00

      @Rene - I'm not sure you have the foggiest idea what you're talking about......not in the slightest. Poor decisions here and there (which funnily enough you never whinged about last year when all those decisions were going the Bulls way.........) but if you think the Bulls were going to beat THAT Reds team on Saturday, you need medication. (Loads of it)

      BCC - 2011-04-18 08:03

      Rene you are a deluded little person indeed. I support neither team so have no blinkers on and the Bulls were outplayed massively. The score did not reflect how much they were dominated. And by typing fact in upper case does not make it true.

      Krugga - 2011-04-18 08:54

      Rene, ignore anything Saffacat says, she just desperately wants to be the lady rugga of this blog. I think she feels intimidated.

      Shistirrer - 2011-04-18 10:05

      Krugga, think what you will, but Saffa definitely knows her rugby, and a whole lot more than YOU ever will.

      mike - 2011-04-18 15:16

      Its funny everyones pointing out how we getting beaten but this is the first time we actually moaned about the ref. So please if you think he didn't screw us then its you who knows nothing about the game. Just cause you paranoid doesn't mean they not out to get you. We were in with a chance up untill the 74th minute when they scored, by far the best game of the weekend. I think you stormers boys and girl should be more concerned about your teams poor showing from the last 2 games then us moaning about the ref. Duane and Aplon in particular were useless this weekend. Aplon being embarressed and showing that maybe he actually isnt big enough to play at this level. Rene 100% on the money, 3 titles due to luck, dam that is some streak we where on.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-18 16:00

      @Mike - for you, and you alone, a platter of cheese, caviar, salmon, and a steak knife to go with your whine. As usual to be delivered by DHL, proud sponsor of the Stormers.

      CliffBradley - 2011-04-18 16:33

      René Müller - Maam , I think you should take your blue sunglasses off , all the SA commentaters , including Naas said that Bryce Lawrence was one of the better ref's of the weekend - You should learn to accept defeat with grace , because you going to accept defeat still a couple of times this season !!!

      René Müller - 2011-04-19 08:34

      I don't have any blinkers on, I for one hate any biased - don't care who's on the receiving end. I don't think any team wants to win because of a ref's incompetency! Saffa-Cat, whoever you are, all you do on these blogs are puking on every 'blue' articles, on of those Bull haters. Furthermore, I cannot recall saying the the Bulls will beat the Reds. In fact I don't believe the Bulls will even make the play-offs this year. I don't even have a problem with that, cause no team wins year in and year out! Don't assume, you now what it makes you! Well, sorry for you, your words and negativity does not affect me AT ALL, in fact I have a giggle everytime I read your comments. Really, it is soo sad when someone's so bitter and negative ALL THE TIME. Why don't you go and 'cry us a river'.

  • BCC - 2011-04-18 07:40

    Who cares what happens with the Bulls. Very unlikely but maybe they can sneak a wildcard playoff spot. This means they will have to play away and we all know how crap they are at touring. The so-called 'fortress Loftus' is a joke as well. I'm sure no sides are intimidated by that stadium.

      René Müller - 2011-04-19 08:39

      BCC, why don't you worry about your own team and what they do and have achieved or not achieved! Ahh, shame not much I see, that is why you hate the BULLS so much. Shamepies!!! I never even read an article about other teams, but noooo, all you Bull haters cannot wait to spew your vomit all over Bull articles. So sad really!!!

  • ilollipop - 2011-04-18 08:03

    "had to much firepower for the Bulls" - that would be "TOO" much "The Bulls are making a lot fewer mistakes," - Fewer mistakes maybe, but "a lot fewer"?

  • Josh Brown - 2011-04-18 08:20

    JJ Harmse & SAFFA-CAT .. You sirs are idiots !!! Lets face facts,The Bulls mixed their ability with ambition..& were like bunnies caught in the headlights at fortress suncorp... If Quade kicked his all his goals, it would have been 50 to 30. Reds/QUADE kept you in the game so the crowd could have a laugh at u planks lumbering around the paddock like Browns Cows...hahaha suck it up buttercups.. DIE ROO MASJIEN!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-04-18 09:55

      @Josh - I am not a pro Bulls person at all dude.......They deserved the loss....kapow, ALL I was highlighting was that the Reds get away with a few things 'obstruction related' - FACT.

      mike - 2011-04-18 15:19

      Josh you like living in if land, if that and if this and the Bulls could easily have won the game 50 - 30 too. So please man if you had a decent kicker you wouldn't have scored all those tries and you would of lost. So make up your mind man.

      René Müller - 2011-04-19 10:42

      And IF the ref wasn't so pathetic, then the Bulls would have won 50 - 30!! It did not happen, did it???

  • Carl Muller - 2011-04-18 08:36

    Jy wen of jy verloor. Daar is niks tussenin nie. Die Bulls moet hulle sokkies optrek en nie soos ou koeie speel nie. Bulls forever....

  • John - 2011-04-18 09:17

    JJ we all know your blood is blue but for crying out loud man stop clutching at straws. 6 to 3 tries and you start bleating about the ref and if it were'nt for this and that .... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle!

  • Gotcha - 2011-04-18 09:35

    JJ is funny, for a true reflection of the game go read: Reds smash Bulls to remain Super rugby leaders - The Reds took their record to six wins in a row when they smashed last year's Super Rugby champions the Bulls 39-30 in Brisbane. The Reds outscored the Bulls by six tries to three and dominated the match throughout. The Bulls third try by Bjorn Basson two minutes from time made the match look a lot closer than the reality.

      Gotcha - 2011-04-18 09:36

      Sorry it's on

  • Clifton - 2011-04-18 12:57

    So lekker to be able to call ref, but you won two titles with refs!!! Wake up JJ! Your bok team always smack of bulls that you pick in the paper and now you want to call the ref for your loss to the Reds....did you mention the poor kicking stats of quade? If he kicked his conversions you would not even be in with 14 points!!! Bulls were never going to win that game....the reds managed them perfectly! Huil op ander plek as om ref skuld te gee as jy weet jou span het al so baie met refs weggekom!

      wpsux - 2011-04-19 14:50


  • Clayton - 2011-04-18 13:33

    Don't think the Bulls were that bad on Saturday, think the Reds are just a much better side at the moment, they are going to be a tough side to beat if they land a home semi final... Especially if the referees continue to allow the "decoy runners" to obstruct defending sides. Must say there was a lot of talk last week about Lionel Cronje, watched him for the first time on Saturday at flyhalf and he looks a excellent prospect for the future.

      Howzitekse - 2011-04-19 17:50

      I watched the game and thought that most of the Bull players played as well as they could, and would have beaten most sides on the day, but that the Reds were just better. Pitty they do not have the courage to start with the same team again.

  • Tony - 2011-04-18 23:01

    Om te dink dat Pretoria ook eens op 'n tyd hulle eie see gehad het...toe trek die water terug en net die skuim bly agter...

      René Müller - 2011-04-19 10:44

      You're confused, it's called the cream stayed behind and the muck went with the flood!

      watalife - 2011-04-19 13:18

      Ja Rene, maybe you should go wash the dishes....bulls...suck

  • Whatever - 2011-04-19 00:56

    HAHAHAHAHA...tipies JJ en BB ondersteuners...blame die ref!Kan bly wees julle het nie met 50 verloor nie!

      GraemeBB - 2011-04-19 12:00

      Bulle het meer as 6 punte ann geteken.

  • wpsux - 2011-04-19 14:36

    typical bulls - quick to whine about refs when it costs them a game but happy to accept a Super14 title down to bad referee-ing. Good to see them losing and would be very happy if the stormers also collected a klap or 3 along the way.

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