Stormers chew on Jean, Schalk

2012-11-28 15:10

Cape Town - The Stormers’ brains trust continue to play a waiting game in terms of who will captain the side in the 2013 Super Rugby season.

Head coach Allister Coetzee held a media briefing at Newlands on Wednesday, shedding some light on plans for the new campaign by the SA conference winners from last season, but the big “Jean de Villiers v Schalk Burger” dilemma remains on hold.

Last year, abrasive Springbok loose forward Burger was the designated captain but suffered a knee injury early in the year which has ruled him out of all rugby since then.

But he is firmly on the mend and it appears as if he will be ready for the start of the 2013 programme.

In his absence, fellow Newlands veteran De Villiers comfortably assumed the reins and the blond midfielder also captained the Boks throughout the Test season - he has had a ringing endorsement from national coach Heyneke Meyer for keeping the mantle next year.

“I’m on holiday,” Coetzee joked as he faced the media corps and was quickly asked for his captaincy plans. “I’ve got to think about these things.

“Look, we’ve already had a planning session with Schalk, and obviously Jean (on the successful Bok end-of-year tour at the time) wasn’t there.

“I will speak to both of them and the management and senior players, and then make my decision; it is still way too early.

“Schalk has been part of our (pre-season) planning - he’s part of the leadership team and will always be there.”

Asked whether De Villiers’s anticipated retention of the Bok leadership would affect his own intentions, Coetzee said: “No, I am happy if Jean gets the (Bok) nod, you know. I think it’s probably the right thing to do; he’s done an outstanding job this year.

“Our situation is obviously completely different being a franchise set-up.”

He admitted the Stormers had a “tough start” with away derbies against the Bulls and Sharks, followed by their first home game against defending champions the Chiefs.

They intend playing pre-season friendlies against neighbours Boland - the now customary away one - and also a likely fellow-Super Rugby side yet to be decided.

Coetzee revealed that hooker Tiaan Liebenberg and prop Deon Carstens would probably not rejoin the squad’s plans until mid-February, while they rehabilitate from injuries, and that promising centre Marcel Brache, who has had a neck operation, may be sidelined for five or six months yet.

“The players who toured (Ireland the UK) with the Boks have a mandatory four-week rest now.

“I will try to keep their conditioning the same as last year; it is important they have a proper conditioning phase and if Jean or Duane (Vermeulen) or Eben (Etzebeth) needs until January 14 to start work with us, that is (in order).”

Tough utility forward Rynhardt Elstadt, who had several injury setbacks last season, is also encouragingly on the mend.

“We had to hold Rynhardt back; he wasn’t supposed to gym (so soon) and we had to explain the programme to him again!”

Meanwhile it appears versatile front-ranker JC Kritzinger, who has been wretchedly plagued by serious knee and other injuries, will be released to get back into studies on a full-time basis.

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HAVE YOUR SAY: If you are a Stormers fan who would you like to see as their captain next season? Jean de Villiers, Schalk Burger or maybe Deon Fourie? Send your thoughts to Sport24.


  • lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-11-28 15:19

    Although Jean has done a great job with the Boks and Stormers I still maintain Schalla should captain the side......afterall he will captain the Boks at 2015 WC:):):)

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-11-28 15:38

      He will retire before then, mark my words

      omge.klits - 2012-11-28 16:02

      And Bakkies 6 . . . .

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-11-28 16:14

      And that guy on twitter 3 weeks

      paul.sdoow - 2012-11-28 16:27

      lionel that's not nice winding up all the Pierre spies fans. ha ha but a good chirp

      braam.groenewald.39 - 2012-11-28 18:30

      And WP 11 years

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-28 23:20

      Braam you are predicting WP to hold onto the Currie Cup for 11 years!! Wow, thanks for the confidence in the team. I'm a WP supporter, but even I think it is unrealistic for them to win it 11 years in a row. I mean the record is 5 years in a row, when WP did it in the 80's. Realistically WP should win it probably 8 of the 11 years. The Lions, Cheetahs and Sharks might squeeze in for a trophy or two as well in that period.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-29 01:41

      So true, greame. Schalk has to play the best rugby of his career and then some to get back into the Stormer set-up at the cost of Kolisi and even better to lift one of the current Bok loose forwards. But then again, if there is one player that can do that, it would be Schalk.

  • jono.qmann - 2012-11-28 15:29

    I like captain insaino but i think it should be Jean!

  • simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-11-28 15:29

    So it's safe to say no super trophy either way - 2012-11-28 15:48

      This a thread about Weepee and their nice predicament,not the boring flou cows.

      niel.walt - 2012-11-28 17:04

      Oh yes offcourse and wp/stormer is just so exciting....

      BulletjieBulBul - 2012-11-28 17:45

      For the next 327 years there will be no trophy in the Cape. They will have to wait for the next settlers to arrive again to start their own league down there.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-28 23:22

      Ou suurgat Bulletjie. Ek sal graag wil weet wat jou dayjob is. As ek moet aflei van jou comments is jy die arme aap wat die stowwerige, lee trofeekas op Moftus moet skoonmaak.

      therealmakoy.makoy - 2012-11-29 15:08

      niel... geez dude that`s histerical !!! thanks for the laugh. where did you get the photos of the nuckle-dragger with the brown polish on him on your FB page ??!!! lollll Eish , that`s sooo funny ! Thanks man , made my day.

  • bdgouveia - 2012-11-28 15:33

    give schalk the freedom to terrorize the opponents again-well hopefully!

      selma.botha.9 - 2012-11-29 14:22


  • frans.visserdsb - 2012-11-28 15:34

    I think it should be Deon Fourie... lol - let the elder statesmen help him and guide him, but let him grow into the role for the future.

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-11-28 15:38

      I think it should be Peter grant - 2012-11-28 15:46

      I like your idea of Dean Fourie. Gerihatricks moet waai!

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-11-28 16:11

      Geriatrics - fyp - 2012-11-28 17:45

      You wish babes

      BulletjieBulBul - 2012-11-28 17:46

      Neeeeeeeee. Gio is mos julle ster daar onder die platberg. Wat het nou van hom geword?

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-28 23:24

      It would be good for Deon Fourie to play with Jean and Schalk to show him the tricks of the trade. He will need it when he captains the Boks at the 2015 World Cup.

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-11-29 10:27

      Greame, Flo will not be playing for the Stormers next year as far as I am aware...

  • cape.maori - 2012-11-28 15:58

    Skalk is oor die muur!

      BulletjieBulBul - 2012-11-28 17:47

      En jy is deur die kuk!

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-29 02:02

      Nee Schalk is DEUR die muur.

      therealmakoy.makoy - 2012-11-29 15:11

      cape.maori.... ermmm jy weet daar is n verskil nevermind LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey , haal gou tanne uit en sing Sannie sal sewe sak sout sleep... toe man...doenit gou

  • khokhiejustin.dubazana - 2012-11-28 16:18

    Meyer has done it n stormers must ff.jean shuld stand as a skipper. if nt broken y fixing it

      paul.sdoow - 2012-11-28 16:23

      and deon fourie was at the helm equal to jean and i would prefer having a forward as skipper as all the rule changes and scrum penalties that are constantly awarded you want a skipper right there to talk and point out to the ref . . if jean tried he would get to the scrum long after the incident .

      paul.sdoow - 2012-11-28 16:36

      not saying jean to slow to get there but that split second where a ref has to make his mind up . good example was the last bok match . . the penalty at scrum time could have been avoided by quick action from a captain at the scrum by pointing out the opposition errors . but instead the ref calls both front row and captains to talk . if say adriaan was captain and mentioned to ref straight after the first set that England not pushing straight he would have made a point of looking at illegal scrummage instead of silly a arm bind

  • wayne.vandyk.98 - 2012-11-28 16:27

    stay with jean,schalky visit the hospital too much.since when is patient a skipper.

  • viva.lebok - 2012-11-28 16:50

    Difficult choice. JdV will be the Bok Captain, however of Burger is selected as Stormers Captain, maybe he can then be selected as Bok Captain. The Bok Captain should be a forward, not back. But then again, I'd rather have Frans Steyn at 12 and Flo at 6. No Burger or Jean in the Bok team at the 2015 WC.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-28 23:26

      I agree. Jean should not make it to the WC. I also would like to see how Schalk performs after this injury. I'd hate to see the current Bok loose-trio broken up. They were probably the factor tipping the scales for the Boks in the last three tests.

  • jerome.pienaar.7 - 2012-11-28 17:09

    Nothing to chew on really, Schalk is our captain. Jean getn a bit long in the tooth. I see no comment re Siya Kolisi?

  • jerome.pienaar.7 - 2012-11-28 17:09

    Nothing to chew on really, Schalk is our captain. Jean getn a bit long in the tooth. I see no comment re Siya Kolisi?

  • grant.butler.104 - 2012-11-28 17:16

    Personally I would retain Deon Fourie as skipper and allow the sparing use of Schalk and JDV...

  • solliebc - 2012-11-28 17:24

    HAVE YOUR SAY: If you are a Stormers fan who would you like to see as their captain next season? Jean de Villiers, Schalk Burger or maybe Deon Fourie? But still the trolls couldn't resist.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-28 23:27

      Deon Fourie. It will give him a lot of experience to take over the Bok captaincy later in the year when Jean retires.

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-28 18:12

    I fail to see the problem! Neither of them are good enough!

      stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-28 18:14

      En jy kan ook nie twee senters as kaptein kies nie!

      thulo.langa - 2012-11-29 06:35

      N you've been to the bok/stormers camp to witness their leadership, No you haven't so don't be so easy to judge, according to their results at the stormers they one of the most successful captains with a lot of wins under their belt - now does that not portray symptoms of good leadership.

  • selma.botha.9 - 2012-11-29 14:08

    I just hope the CC Champions do not meet a similar fate as the Lions in 2012. The win against the Sharks in the CC Final was well deserved but a fluke. The Sharks will be relishing the opportunity to turn the tables on the Stormers. For Rugby's sake I hope both franchises are able to field full strength teams. It is going to be a humdinger.

      therealmakoy.makoy - 2012-11-29 15:19

      Selma , you going to have to explain that again.... well deserved , but a fluke ?? Maybe it`s just me , but how the hell can a fluke be well deserved ? of al draai jy hom op sy kop , they deserved to win with a fluke ?

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