Steyn wants out of Boks

2010-05-26 22:37

Hendrik Cronjé

Bloemfontein – Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and fullback Frans Steyn are set to hold an emergency meeting in Johannesburg on Friday in a bid to save their strained relationship.

VIDEO: Francois Steyn lands monster drop goal

Steyn sent an SMS to the coach earlier this week to withdraw from the Bok side that will play Wales in Cardiff on June 5, but work is being done behind the scenes to resolve their differences.

Sport24’s information is that there have been problems between coach and player for some time.

It appears as if there is little communication between the two and that is probably the biggest reason for Steyn’s decision to withdraw from the Bok side that is flying out to London on Sunday.

Steyn apparently took the decision in the interests of his team-mates as he does not want to disadvantage them.

He recently tried to contact De Villiers, but a high-ranking South African Rugby Union (SARU) official apparently refused to give him the Bok coach’s new cellphone number.

SARU alleged that it’s impossible to contact Steyn in Paris where he plays for French club Racing Metro.

Steyn, who is currently visiting a dairy farm near Bethlehem in the Free State, has a French and South African cell number, which makes it difficult for SARU.

If the differences between the parties are not addressed at Saturday’s meeting, the Bok coach may have to pick a different fullback for the Test against Wales.

Zane Kirchner (Bulls) and Joe Pietersen (Stormers) will be strong contenders, while it’s a known fact that Cheetahs fullback Hennie Daniller was asked to arrange a visa.

The 23-year-old Steyn recently struck a drop goal of over 60 metres for Racing Metro against Clermont.

Sport24 understands that a number of stakeholders, including selection convenor Peter Jooste and Steyn’s agent, Gerrie Swart, will attend the meeting in Johannesburg.


  • not that hard - 2010-05-26 22:54

    I'll solve the problem for SARU that makes it difficult. Phone his SA phone number. If he does not answer then phone his french cell phone number. That way you have cut out the big difficulty you are experiencing with him having two numbers. Fools, clowns and incompetent administrators. But we wonder why anyone would go to the Crusaders and panis about them trying to poach players

  • Chris - 2010-05-26 22:58

    Who gives a sh@t about Steyn or De Villiers. Look at the list of replacements available for Steyn, and I could name about 100 replacements for De Villiers and all the ar@eholes at SARFU.

  • bulawayo-based-bok - 2010-05-26 23:07

    This is an absolute joke!! PDV, if you let this oke go you will really be up S**T creek!!! he is arguably one of the biggest weapons in world rugby and has the potential to be one of/if not the greatest rugby players of all time!Yes Francois is a bit arrogant and selfish but deep down every great sportsmen is!! and can someone tell me why Butch James has to be forced to play 12, when it is Francois favourite position??? stick Pienaar at 9, Butch at 10, Steyn at 12 and De Jongh at 13(giving Fourie a break)!! Come back Francois....we need you!

  • ANDRE - 2010-05-26 23:15

    @ Chris, name those 100 !!! I dare you !!!!!!

  • William Shakespeare - 2010-05-26 23:16

    Wasn't this the player who kicked the ball to the Bryan Habana in the 79th minute when the Bulls were playing the plankton in the plankton tank for the 2007 Super 14 Final, and the Bulls went on to win?

  • Jaco - 2010-05-26 23:18

    How f@cking difficult can it be - are the people at SARU totally illiterate?????

  • Izak - 2010-05-26 23:25

    Frans tried to contact Peter de Villiers, but apparently he was not given the cell phone number. Surely this cannot be correct. Steyn is justified in being upset. Carry on with your career in France. The French will not be as short-sighted as SARU and before long you will play for the French national side.

  • Deonic - 2010-05-26 23:35

    P Divvie picked Steyn. He certainly wants Steyn to play. But some idiots are blocking communication. The coach of the IRB team of the season, and the most valuable player in the world is being kept apart by some friggin administrator. WTF? That is exactly why we hate these administrators. P Divvie has flown to Bloem to discuss Juan Smith's position with him personally. That is the type of person that he is. He would have been quite prepared to travel the further 300km to Bethlehem, if things were properly organised. We, the paying public are being screwed again by ridiculous petty childish arseh@les. I am not surprised that Div has said that some of his support staff are not pulling in the same direction. Who the hell is keeping the IRB team of the season coach and his most valuable player apart? Whoever it is, that person is not acting in my interest. There is nothing that I want more in rugby than to see Frans Steyn in our Bok team. His influence on the 2009 rugby season has been more than Johna Lomu's impact in 1995. We want to see him playing for the Boks.

  • dial a player - 2010-05-26 23:43

    One doesn't need to be fluent in French to dial a French cell phone number - the numerical symbols stay the same.

  • @ not that hard - 2010-05-26 23:50

    My first thoughts exactly...

  • KwaggaDan - 2010-05-27 00:00

    But if he doesn't want to play why let him. Playing for the Boks is an honour, and if he thinks he's above that then why "force" him too? Sure he can kick the ball long, but he never passed even when there was an overlap and he always ran straight at the opposing props. Wynand Olivier at 12 and Jaques Fourie at 13. Problem solved.

  • Craig - 2010-05-27 00:01

    Let's see if I can get this straight. Steyn tried to contact de Villiers and the folks at SARU wouldn't give him his cell phone number. Shortly afterwards he sends an SMS to de Villiers asking to withdraw from the test team. This sounds like cr@p to me ....

  • Koos - 2010-05-27 00:04

    Don't waste ur time with Pietersen.. He's getting married then heading to France

  • Tshepo - 2010-05-27 00:04

    Ooooh for f%^ks sakes SARU, how difficult can it be to call a man with 2 cellphone numbers?? Have you tried his wife/girlfriend?? Have you tried email??

  • sean - 2010-05-27 00:39

    Once again shows how f@#*n INCOMPETENT SARU is !!!!!! Obviously they have the brightest people working for them !!! What a effing joke !!

  • hulkyhawk - 2010-05-27 00:48

    What a joke!!! Unfortunately, FS can't play for the French as he's already played games for Springboks. This is another situation where administrators/coaches think they're bigger than the game.......

  • spagmm - 2010-05-27 00:53

    Steyn is a good rugby player, but is far too arrogant and big for his boots. Give him time to grow up. He thinks he is bigger than the game. If a player refuse to play for his country, it tells you all about what sort of a bad sportsman he really is.

  • Peter - 2010-05-27 00:54

    Surely there must be a bigger problem than simply the "inability" to call someone!? There's always email! Person one sends the email, person two reads it. Problem solved. If Steyn can't play, then Joe Pietersen must be the next in line. He had a brilliant campaign for the Stormers.

  • FitMike - 2010-05-27 01:02

    @ Chris! HA HA HA, I bet you are gonna put Kirchner as one of the replacements! Nobody can replace this guy and they way he playes right now he is probably our best player. But then who would put up with Pieters rubbish whne you get paid 700k Euros per season. It is our loss, not his! I for one hope he comes back pretty quickly becuase we have NO ONE at full back that can replace this guy.

  • Arrie - 2010-05-27 01:23

    SARU can't get hold of Steyn, who are they trying to bluff - the unemployed diasadvanged. I do not except their statement and it is based on lies - affirmative action is alive and well. As far as I am concerned Steyn must play for whoever except SA teams and just as well move to France and live their. SA politics are cancer that has infiltrated everything in SA. Steyn, you are young mate, leave these corrupt people and make 'n new life with a new team somewhere else.

  • Impi - 2010-05-27 04:16

    Don't worry too much about losing players to overseas franchises; I'm more worried about the brain-drain to Bulawayo.

  • Joe Blog - 2010-05-27 04:19

    Hmm, so how did Steyn send de Villiers an SMS if he wasn't given the number of the coach. Bad reporting or are we not getting the full story? Anyway, an oke with a hairstyle like that is a poor example for the manne of SA.

  • Gazza - 2010-05-27 04:23

    @Andre - here's my go at naming a 100 people better-equipped to coach the Boks than Div: 1. Ludeke 2. Meyer 3. Coetzee 4. White 5. Mallet 6. Deans 7. Dumbo 8. Freddie Kruger 9. Roger Moore 10. the gay guy from Glee 11. Julius Malema 12. Andre 13. You 14. Me 15. Dick Muir ... should I continue?

  • ruka - 2010-05-27 05:49

    It's not as easy as phoning his SA numberand if he doesn't answer that then you phone his french cell. If he answers his french cell, do you have to talk french to him otherwise the phone might not understand?? It's a nightmare to figure it all out!

  • Grim - 2010-05-27 05:57

    eventually the spring boks will be playing them selves on the field, if we carry on loosing players

  • jawellnofine - 2010-05-27 06:04

    @william shakespear: was he not the player that sunk the Aussies at Newlands with the two drop goals? Was he not the player that destryed the All Blacks with those monster penalties at Hamilton? Your point about kicking being?

  • tracer - 2010-05-27 06:09

    OH GOD!!!! If they can't manage this how the f$%k are they going to manage a country!!!!

  • GJW - 2010-05-27 06:10

    Don't you people see what is happening??? They produce this lovely front by allowing rugby to be played in Soweto to make it look like reconciliation but in the background they are destroying our national team by p#@#!g off Steyn and now pressurising the Beast. All part of a long term plan. They are patiant and will bleed the team dry slowly but surely. Wait until you see the team for next years World Cup!!!!

  • @Izak - 2010-05-27 06:12

    Izak, he has already played for the Bokke. He will not be allowed to play for anyone else ever. It all sounds very childish to me.

  • Silly - 2010-05-27 06:17

    If you are not loyal to your to your country who made you a champion, then sorry, I no longer support you no matter how great you are. Gat lek - is vir sissies. Their are ways of communication eg - email and so on. Steyn knew this was coming. But do you really want to support a game where the player's heart and passion is not for the country but for his pocket? SORRY - my support is for passion play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And SARU please explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Othello - 2010-05-27 06:17

    William Shakespear - I believe when the little Taurus played the great plankton in 2007 it was a NZ referee that ignored a blatant knock on which led to 'the' Habana try.

  • Mike@CapeT - 2010-05-27 06:22

    If there is a communication problem then it needs to be sorted out however, one cannot have players deciding when and if they will play for their country. If they do not have loyalty for their country then they must be booted out...forever! Just like Bafana Bafana's Benni MacCarthy should have been booted out years ago!

  • Etienne - 2010-05-27 06:28

    Hope he is not getting bigger than the game. Steyn said not long ago he would love to play in the green and gold again. I am sure there is more to this than meets the eye

  • Cobus - 2010-05-27 06:29

    There are two sides to this Coin. 1. Francios you dont send and SMS, you pick up the phone and you act like a man. This is very dissapointing. Also He had to call a high ranking Saru official to get P Div's number. You dont keep numbers of your old Pals @ the sharks or Dick Muir, Garry Golds number? This is absured. You have tallent but dont let your attitude ruin it. 2. PDiv, you are supposed to be a mentor to these guys. How do you not know by him leaving to France and publically saying that there are bad blood between you he will just macigally turn up on your beck and call, you have to put in some work my friend. Conclusion, Francios it is time to grow up and Pieter it is time you serious start looking at your people skills.

  • bigd - 2010-05-27 06:30

    Who does he think he is....Gods gift to SA rugby???? Leave the little hairdresser in France.....pick Peterson, Zane or anybody who WANTS to weir the Bok Jersey. He left because of "the pressures" of SA Rugby....little wanker! Leave him over there please!

  • ddri - 2010-05-27 06:36

    Kom nou Pieter hy is beter as die meeste wat jy het. Hoe moeilik kan dit wees om iemand in Frankryk te, FB, ICQ, MTN,Vodacom, and last the f%$#@$#@#ed up TELKOM

  • Muncher - 2010-05-27 06:36

    History does not repeat itself in this sport here in the good old R of SA, it just lingers on. Year after year we lose our best to the rest, then SARFU tries to cover up with some or other poo poo. Pay the boyz what they are worth, cut your huge salaries and bonuses, and they will stay. Perhaps some of you could move on to greener pastures,or apply for a job at an electricity supplier somewhere in SA, THEN WE WOULD ALL BE LEFT IN THE DARK........moffies.

  • pietman - 2010-05-27 06:38

    Seems that Frans need some discipline. Somebody should just spank his arrogant bum. Where is oom Frik? Unfortunately Danie Craven or those who understands more of rugby than just the playing of it are gone. Are there any of those left? Are there any players left who loves the jersey? John Smit, you have some captaincy to do oh Captain in the Cauldron. maybe you should ask Juan Smith ta have a chat with him. Maybe you should just send this very talented but non appreciative boy back to France and left him to his own arrogance.

  • Martin - 2010-05-27 06:39

    Wow, I have heard it all now. "has a French and South African cell number, which makes it difficult for SARU" - yes that seems very difficult SARU haha. I don't blame Steyn for wanting to pullout, at least there politics don't get involved with sport. Anyway I think we have good talent in S14 fullbacks.

  • Calla - 2010-05-27 06:40

    @Izak - Aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaaaaaai! When last did you read the rules of international selection - Frans has played for South Africa (btw I think it was 34 tests so far) - after Tiaan Strauss (and a couple of others) the international rugby board put an end to players being eligible to play for one country if they have already represented another - so... Frans will NEVER play for France, so if he is set on playing international rugby ever again, it will have to be for SA - I for one surely hope they can sort out the differences as this is SUCH an awesome player - it's a waste to see him lost to our rugby regardless of the rumours flying around about his personal life - on THAT issue I say... if you're as good as this guy, who the hell cares what he does behind closed doors

  • Lood - 2010-05-27 06:41

    Mr. De Villiers. Frans Steyn is worth more to SA rugby than you. Please get out of the way.

  • Gary - 2010-05-27 06:42

    @Izak. Impossible. Steyn will never play for France. IRB rules prohibit a player from playing for more than one nation at that level.

  • Neo - 2010-05-27 06:42

    Nobody is bigger than rugby or his country... players with an attitude must be dropped permanently. We do not need that type of people in or team nor our country.... vat jou goed en trek.....

  • @william shake spear - 2010-05-27 06:54

    Not quite correct wannabe baard. Steyn kicked the ball to Habana in the 83rd when to win the match all he had to do was to kick it out to win the game.Perhaps, the worst moments for sharks supporters ever.

  • zim - 2010-05-27 06:57

    This shows a lot of immaturity on both parties. Francois is requested to report for a training camp and he, like everyone else, has to do so and not expect any special treatment. He is very privileged to be selected. PdV obviously have a positive dilemma with the two SA teams in the S14 final and is possibly forced to make use more of players that are currently playing and already have visas to enter Europe. SARU management knew about this possible dilemma for the last four weeks and was supposed to contact the players in advance, hence the announcement of the team after the two S14 finals. Our rugby players need to grow-up and not at each and every moment disclose their difference to the media. This is an employee management relationship that needs to addressed in that context and not to destabilise others that wants to play the game.

  • AN3AS - 2010-05-27 06:58

    Have Peter and SARU not heard of e-mails and including that detail on the player particulars (as everyone else does, banks, insurance, business cards,etc,etc.)? I like the idea of the BBB to play Steyn at 12.

  • Michael Moolman - 2010-05-27 06:58

    How difficult can it be? In this day and age of modern communication technology, that two people can't talk to each other. I find it bizzare in the extreme. There are always three sides to a story, yours mine and the truth.

  • Walt - 2010-05-27 07:01

    Steyn must downsize his head! He's a perochial p...k who can kick a ball prodigiously, but do we really need someone with an attitude like this? Bring on Daniller or any of the other names mentioned!!!

  • Rikus - 2010-05-27 07:03

    @IZAK How daft can you get. Firstly, know how the rules work before you comment on a sport and secondly we never know the real story as jounos will only tell the sentational side of things. He can NEVER play for France, ask Shaun Suawerby who played 5mins of test rugby for the Boks and could never play for France even though he was there for prob 8years. And how does actually picking him make SARugby so shortsighted? You would prob complain if SARU do anything. Plonker

  • RugbyStudent - 2010-05-27 07:03

    Can someone please tell what the fuss is about?? He wants to sign million dollar contracts make sure he and his agent get lotsa money, then he wants everybody to run after him. Why doesn't he come back to SA like CJ van der Linde????? Huh? Francois you are a d00s and blaming PdV is childish. Who says you are gauranteed a spot in the Springbok team? Where would you fit in? Zane Kirchner has been doing extremely well and well the Bok team doesn't need your 50% kicking success rate. Francois Steyn being one of the greatest?? Common...He is a d00s. You would never see Os pull an adolescent stunt like this.