Southern Kings in limbo

2012-03-29 14:29

Johannesburg - With a number of pressing issues facing South African rugby, it is unlikely that the SA Rugby Union (SARU) will resolve two of the most important concerns at its annual general meeting in Cape Town on Friday.

The participation of the Southern Kings and a proposed Super Rugby expansion are hanging in limbo after an expected meeting with SANZAR partners Australia and New Zealand was rescheduled indefinitely earlier this month.

Time is also quickly running out to appoint Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer’s assistant coaches, with only two months left to prepare for a three-test series against England in June.

Rather than fast-tracking these issues, SARU is expected to present its financial statements on Friday and to vote on two vacant positions on the executive committee.

Gary Meyer and Pat Kuhn’s two year stints on the committee have expired and they are standing for another four years, according to SARU's general manager of communications Andy Colquhoun.

"There are four other candidates," Colquhoun said.

They were Jan Marais, former chairman of the council, Peter Hassard, former president of KwaZulu-Natal, Schalk Liebenberg, and Western Province president Tobie Titus.

Colquhoun said there would also be some constitutional amendments up for discussion.

A delegation was formed during a meeting between SARU’s leadership and franchises in February to argue for the expansion of the Super Rugby competition to 16 teams to accommodate all six South African franchises, including the Kings.

Representatives of the country's Super Rugby franchises were expected to accompany SARU president Oregan Hoskins, deputy president Mark Alexander, and chief executive Jurie Roux to a Sanzar meeting on March 17.

However, SARU announced shortly before the trip that it had written to Australia and New Zealand, requesting a re-scheduling of the planned meeting.

"The request was made to allow time to prepare additional options," SARU said at the time.

"Alexander and Roux will continue with their scheduled SANZAR meetings as well as discuss with Australia and New Zealand the principles of expansion in advance of the formal presentation.

"We have two options for our partners to consider but are completing work on a further two.

"If that takes a week or two more then we’re happy to take that time," it said.


  • Bulldozer - 2012-03-29 14:42

    Let them replace the Stormers. Easy as pie.

      Lionel - 2012-03-29 14:49

      Bulls and Lions to amalgamate,easy as pouring a VO and coke!!!!!!!!!

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-29 14:52

      Not as tasty, though.

      Lionel - 2012-03-29 14:55

      Hang seker af watse soort pie dit is:):):)

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-29 15:00

      Haal jou gedagtes uit die gutter uit. Ek praat van steak & kidney.

      Lionel - 2012-03-29 15:07

      hahahaha,you are one of a kind!!!!!!!!

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-03-29 15:01

    Replace them with the Sharks

  • James Parker - 2012-03-29 15:09

    sick of super rugby expanding every year. it should stay super15. either merge the Lions and Cheetahs, or completely remove the Cheetahs. they are the worse of the two anyway.

      Johan - 2012-03-29 15:25

      and replace them with a team that cant even win the vodacom cup, makes perfect sense !!!

      colin85 - 2012-03-29 15:48

      Make it the Super 18 or 20 and remove conferences... Bring in team from Japan and maybe an Argi team Conferences suck, we have CC and VC. Lets see our teams play world teams more

      Lion - 2012-03-29 16:26

      Merge them with the Stormers!!! Then they will be the "StormKings". They are both from the Cape Province anyway and logistically it would make sense. You can then also have Cheeky as your new president and Luke as your captain. The Lions had to merge with the Cheetahs in the past, so it's your turn now. How does that sound to you James Parker you IDIOT!!!

      Shaun - 2012-03-29 16:54

      I think the lionkings sounds better

      Lion - 2012-03-29 17:00

      Shauney... Mommy's calling. It's past your bedtime baby.

      Eugene - 2012-03-29 19:54

      Kings krap waar dit nie jeuk nie..........BLY WEG.....! Al die spanne tans in Superrugby reeks sowel sommige vodacom cup spanne is sterker as julle , Maties en Tukkies sal julle op%&^ . As julle drie relegasie wedstryde teen die span wat laaste eindig kan speel en twee uit drie wen dan praat ons weer maar andersins.............No way !!!!!!

      Eugene - 2012-03-29 19:55

      Nee Lion man......Jy krap my nou heel om...voel sommer nou kotserag....!

      Lion - 2012-03-30 01:17

      Eugene... Sorry my ou maat. Ek het dit maar bietjie tong in die kies gesê. Voel jy hoe voel dit as mense die heeltyd gemors in jou keel wil afdruk? Die konsep van spanne "merge" het nog nooit gewerk nie en sal ook nie. Ek dink nie hierdie patete wat hulleself die Kings noem kan eers Affies se 7de span wen nie, wat nog Varsity spanne. Enige rugby administrateur met sense sal nie eers so ver gaan om S15 vir die Kings voor te stel as hy in beheer van hulle was nie. Hierdie is totaal en al 'n politieke ding en ou Cheeky en Luke se persoonlike agendas. Hulle was nog hulle lewe lank net in die limelgiht met negatiewe nuus en ek dink dis eerder 'n persoonlike vendetta teen SA rugby en die rugby publiek in die algemeen as wat dit suiwer gaan oo EP Rugby hier. Alles wat in die nuus gesê word oor die tweetjies en Luke wat oral geboe word as hy tokse aantrek lok negatiewe kommentaar van al wat rugby ondersteuner is. Dis 2 patetiese figure daai en ek dink dis payback vir hulle in hulle eie minds. Anyway... Sterkte vir die naweek. Dit gaan 'n moeilike een wees.

  • Jeandré - 2012-03-29 15:10

    Wat van ons laat hulle net nie speel nie! Cheetahs 4 life! HOEKACHAKACHEEEETAAAHHHSSS!!!!

  • Reinhard - 2012-03-29 15:25

    Kan die mense nie net alles los soos dit is nie! Die dag wanneer die Kings in die Currie beker speel,saam met die groter spanne,en hulle kan wen, dan kan ons weer praat! Maar hul kon die naweek nie eens die wp se b-c span wen in die vodacom beker nie. Nou wat dink hulle gaan gebeur as hulle teen spanne soos Reds,Crusaders,ens speel.

  • john.fourie1 - 2012-03-29 15:28

    Why replace any teams, the must earn their spot in Super Rugby. Solution - Top 5 teams in Currie Cup play Super rugby, at least the Currie Cup won't loose spark

      Jean-Pierre - 2012-03-30 12:11

      Problem is CC runs concurrently to S15, so the major franchises only have their B or C sides in the CC, not to mention call ups to the Springboks etc. Wouldn't be fair.

  • Niki - 2012-03-29 16:35

    Let the South African team that ends in the lowest position play a promotion relegation game against the Kings to decide who should represent South Africa in the Super 15 next year...

      Eugene - 2012-03-29 19:58

      Best of three.....One is luck if you win it

  • Saffa - 2012-03-29 16:41

    As much as I am a Stormer and WP groupie, I would NEVER agree with any of the current franchises being booted to make way for the Kings. The sad thing is: it is going to happen regardless. The courts ruled, SARU agreed, and this has been such a long time coming that it's beyond ridiculous that no decision has been made as of yet - embarassing and so 3rd world - ****tonsils. The Kings are a-coming - and that is the only certainty at the moment. Why can't the Sharks take them back? I know the Sharks 'bought them out' many years back when they wanted to split from them for Superrugby purposes.....AND: it is only the Sharks who have no smaller union to piggyback at the moment - why should they get all their cash, while the rest of the franchises assist others? Just a question.

      Pierre - 2012-03-29 16:51

      Hear your sharks argument, and makes sense. Would just prefer that if we have to lose a franchise, it be the stormers:)

      Bulldozer - 2012-03-29 16:59

      I agree with Pierre, believe it or not.

      Pierre - 2012-03-29 17:02

      Is it that hard?

      Lionel - 2012-03-29 17:05

      Im outa here,lekker aand julle!!!!!!!

  • Julian - 2012-03-29 18:08

    The idea of replacing the Cheetahs or Lions with the Kings is madness. Considering that both teams have started playing really great rugby and produce so much talent, I cannot fathom why you would replace them with a team that cannot even win the Vodacom Cup. The Kings aren't ready for the step up, it would be like trying to deliver a baby 6 months after conception.

  • Joe - 2012-03-29 19:18

    Let them first proof themselves in the Currie Cup !!!

  • Jody - 2012-03-30 10:55

    Kings will be accommodated as ANC and Hoskins have a agreement. Hope Sanzar do not budge and SARU promoting the Kings at the cost of current teams will start the demise of rugby as we know it. Was going to happen sooner or later. I have become like many mountain goats by supporting the All Blacks.

  • Jody - 2012-03-30 11:04

    Kings will lose to top 4 Varsity teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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