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So sad. Boet Erasmus in ruin

2013-11-07 09:00

Cape Town - The former home of Eastern Province rugby, the Boet Erasmus Stadium, is currently in a state of ruin.

The stadium, which had a capacity of 33 852 and was named after Boet Erasmus, a former mayor of Port Elizabeth, was officially closed in July 2010. The last match to be played at the stadium was a friendly between EP and the Blue Bulls on July 3, 2010.

Subsequent to its closing, the Eastern Province Rugby Union (EPRU) moved all games to the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium which was built ahead of the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

The stadium is most famous for the 'Battle of Boet Erasmus' Test during the 1995 Rugby World Cup, in which the Springboks beat Canada 20-0.

The match saw not only a power failure, but the issuing of no fewer than three red cards - to Springbok hooker James Dalton and Canadian duo Gareth Rees and Rod Snow. Springbok wing Pieter Hendriks was cited post-Test, and along with Dalton, was banned for the remainder of the tournament.

Sadly, today, the stadium is in a state of rack and ruin, as illustrated by former Springbok legend Rob Louw's tweet and image, below.

So sad to see old Boet Erasmus stadium being broken down by vagrants. What's happening disgrace - Rob Louw




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Comments
  • Lionel Kemm - 2013-11-06 14:12

    Shocking....so sad!!!!!!!!!!

      Greg Townes - 2013-11-07 10:59

      Boet Erasmus belongs to the PE municipality and EP rugby just rented it so municipality is at fault. Newlands belongs to all the rugby clubs in Cape Town and it's debenture shareholders. It also has around 200 boxes at a cost of over R10000 per season (income for shareholders i.e the clubs). It is also paid for, so only cost is maintenance. Cape Town stadium is owned by municipality, so WP would have to rent and has around 50 boxes.

      Mark Croxford - 2013-11-07 12:28

      Really just the sad reality of what is happening to SA as a whole !

  • Charl du Preez - 2013-11-06 14:14

    What's the problem, they have beautiful new stadium now?

      Spring Bok - 2013-11-06 14:49

      hoekom gaan bly jy nie sommer in n shack nie of immigreer eerder na Zimbabwe ? What's the problem ? Typical "don't give a sh*t" attitude south africans have these days !

      Martin Willemse - 2013-11-06 15:17

      get over yourselves..they will demolish this stadium...if you all so concerned why don't you spend your own money for its upkeep...typical...moaners....kerm oor alles. the logic shown by some is laughable

      Adrian Dunbar - 2013-11-06 16:00

      @Martin... It seems you have so much to say but yet have so little knowledge. Yes we do have an awesome stadium to go play at which is good. But if you actually knew what was going on in the sporting culture of SA, which clearly you don't, there is a need for sporting facilites for the less fortunate and this would have been the perfect opportunity to use an iconic stadium like this as a breeding ground for young talent. Not to mention if one stadium was used for everything that the maintenance costs would be just as high as if the load was shared. Basically manage it properly and use the one stadium for development and the other for important matches. At the end of the day the cost will balance and we have two awesome stadiums.

      MikeyHarky - 2013-11-06 16:42

      Yes the new terrorist stadium

      Richard Barnes - 2013-11-06 17:33

      It takes money to maintain a facility. If you have no use for that facility then it is money down the drain. And even if you do have a use for the facility, it needs to at least pay for its upkeep. Spending a million rand per annum to maintain a facility that only earns R500k is not sound economics. This happens all over the world. The US city of Detroit built the Pontiac Silverdome in the 1970s for US$55 million. They sold it in 2009 for just over half a million dollars. The land value alone is more than that - and the buyer got a complete 80 000-seater domed stadium and all its infrastructure on top of the land. But parts of Detroit have become a ghost town and it was costing the city $1.5 million a year to maintain the stadium. So they almost gave it away. It doesn't matter how excellent a facility was. If it can't pay for its own upkeep, it's a white elephant and a millstone around the owner's neck.

      Chris Clark - 2013-11-07 11:16

      could have been used for development, school , Interprovincial sports , low rent with all the facilities

      Richard Barnes - 2013-11-07 15:04

      How many underprivileged schools could afford to pay one cent for their team to use Boet Erasmus? How many underprivileged schools could even afford to transport their team to Boet Erasmus to play? These schools need facilities where the kids are, i.e. at the school itself. It doesn't help having a stadium thirty miles away from the school. Basically, it would have boiled down to the government running the stadium as a charity - paying for the maintenance but not getting any money in return. Those organisations who wanted and could afford to hire a stadium of that size for their events could hire Nelson Mandela anyway. When somebody who has sat down with a detailed cost-benefit analysis and business plan for Boet Erasmus can tell me why it makes sense to use it for development, I'll listen. Until then, it's just a lot of people who have no expertise on the subject guessing. It's like the internet masses proclaiming that they could do a better job of running the US than the President does. The fact that they know diddly about the issues which the President must tackle, and aren't even clear on what the President may or may not do, doesn't deter them in the slightest.

  • Leon E Young - 2013-11-06 14:23

    a disgrace indeed cant these people maintain anything

      jeremy thorpe - 2013-11-06 15:15

      Don't talk rubbish Leon. The stadium hasn't been used for three years because a brand-new stadium was built for the World Cup. What needs to happen now is for Boet Erasmus to be pulled down and the site redeveloped.

      Barney Dino - 2013-11-06 15:23

      Jeremy,...it could have been used as a ground to promote the development of rugby in that area. Ev always screams, we dont have facilities, blah blah,...the smaller clubs could have used this ground to promote and develop rugby. So your argument holds no ground, it comes down to mismanagement and a "dont care" attitude by the administrators and politicians. No wonder the EP is in the state it is.

      jeremy thorpe - 2013-11-06 15:37

      I doubt it Barney. It was too big, and too expensive to maintain for the lind of thing you're suggesting. PE isn't big enough for two big stadiums. As I said Boet Erasmus has to go and the site redeveloped.

      Spring Bok - 2013-11-06 16:17

      jeremy tworp, the only rubbish here is that uttered through that bearded mouth of yours

  • Darryl Farmer - 2013-11-06 14:24

    can become a main reason why Super Rugby should stay out of EP as a whole

      Marshall Smith - 2013-11-06 15:41

      Darryl, don't talk crap !!!!

  • Jackey Moss - 2013-11-06 14:26

    In with the new , Out with the old, Its a fact of life, or did he expect the EC government to maintain 2 white elephants ??

      Jim King - 2013-11-07 16:34

      i pity the women stuck with a whining retard like Stephen Trenam..

  • Zanoxolo Duncan Lholhoza Mbekela - 2013-11-06 14:28

    This is eastern cape for you am not shocked at all

  • Spring Bok - 2013-11-06 14:45

    What a brilliant display of our superb leadership in SA today ! And that includes SARU !

  • Greg Chemaly - 2013-11-06 14:53

    You whiteys are a joke,first you crucify the ANC for 'wasting' taxpayers money on a brand new stadium that brought us all a lot of joy.Now the same ANC is blasted for not spending money to maintain a apartheid era relic that nobody needs.Jeess!

      Splunken Gobblesmack - 2013-11-06 14:56

      Easy on the racial slurs there Greg.

      Quota Domino - 2013-11-06 15:04

      Harlequins & Progress het OP rugby opgemors - Q Davids - onthou jy hom??

      Priyal Pillay - 2013-11-06 15:15

      Lol...too true Greg, but lets not say all whites, just the N24 ones :) As for you Stephen, get of your high horse bud. What have you invented, do tell?

      Spring Bok - 2013-11-06 15:19

      Greg jou goffel ! Klim uit die pyp uit waarin jy woon ! Hoe is hierdie stadion n apartheid relic ? Ek dink jy is eerder n apartheid relic !!!

      Barney Dino - 2013-11-06 15:26

      Nothing intelligent to say....so the old "apartheid" word has to be used....the only word in your vocabulary it seems. If thats the case, demolish Ellispark, Loftus, Nuweland,....hyh...were they not also there during "apartheid". Grow a pair and grow up. Blah blah "apartheid"..blah blah blah.."apartheid". Pfft...idiot!

      Spring Bok - 2013-11-06 15:42

      nou klim die koelie brak ook op die band wagon ! Julle kerm altyd oor alles en soek altyd alles verniet, dan kry julle dit en trek dit deur julle gatte en blammeer ons daarvoor ! F-Off terug Indie toe eerder, eks seker julle altwee sit sonder werk en teer op julle vrouens of ouers en dra niks by tot die samelewing nie !

      Priyal Pillay - 2013-11-06 15:44

      @Marthinus. Thanks for living up to the stereotype as i mentioned in my previous comment. When i need some panelbeating done, i'll call u champ. And Stephen, there are many in this country already working to build this country, not crying on news sites. Expand your circle and you will learn. As for Europe. Been there, seen it, not impressed.

      Adrian Dunbar - 2013-11-06 16:53

      @Greg, it is not about race, it is people with the mentality like yours that starts the problem. Firstly it wasn't us whites that crucified the ANC, it was actually people ("with lets just say a higher IQ then yours") in general that questioned why do we need a new stadium when we can revamp one. Fine we went with a new stadium, but as I said in a previous post, why let this stadium go to waste. It is going to cost just as much money to demolish and prepare it for another development to happen. So keep it going for our less fortunate and schools to use, and if it is needed for provincial training then there we go we have a stadium that can do that. Then when we have important fixtures and touring sides that need to train, they can use the main stadium. Not to mention this "Apartheid Era Relic" can be used for soccer development as well. So in my mind there is a need for it. And I'm not even going to indulge in your "New stadium brought us joy" statement as a revamped stadium would have brought us just as much joy. Not to mention the 1995 World Cup being a success which this stadium was apart of. As Mr. T says "I pity the fool".

      Pierre Fourie - 2013-11-07 13:48

      Get over apartheid seriously dude, we going for 20 years of democracy yet you still suckling on the apartheid tit! Anyway as far as the stadium is concerned they could have just upgraded the Boet Erasmus stadium like they did with the Bloemfontein Stadium instead of wasting money and building a new stadium!

  • Geoff Tennant - 2013-11-06 15:03

    What do you mean? It's never looked better!

  • Matthew Keeley - 2013-11-06 15:07

    The Metro is in the process of appointing a professional team to design a new concept plan for the land...a private developer will then be awarded a long-term lease to develop the land. Hopefully this will include a tribute to symbolise the significance of what that stadium meant to EC/SA Rugby.

      Matthew Keeley - 2013-11-07 11:25

      @Tyronne. Thanks for your enlighteningly positive response. Reviewing all your comments shows that you clearly just shoot from the hip with a lot of built up hate. I'm not sure how I'm kidding myself or should be ashamed when I have no official allegiance to EP Rugby or this derelict site? Yes, its terrible and far more should have been done to secure the stadium from vandals. As far as it being used for 'school competitions in all sport codes and events or shows' I think shows a lot of naivety on your part. As with many cities and towns around the world that have built new stadiums, many of the old stadiums are then deemed to no longer be financially viable to sustain. It is about finding more efficient ways to use council land that can then improve the livelihoods of people that live in the area without placing a financial burden on the city. Possibly a new social housing development or convention centre might be found to be the most vilable way forward for the redevelopment of the land...your recommendation will however just place the existing financial status of the local council in an even more precarious situation.

      Matthew Keeley - 2013-11-07 16:33

      @Tyronne. Open your eyes, its great that you have listed all those cities, I'm really happy for you. But are you inferring that all those stadiums are used to their capacity and are operating at break-even? You know nothing about this topic and I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you. Just do some Googling and you will find that all new stadiums in SA except the NMB stadium is actually running at a loss since 2010 . PS: EP is not a Province, its called the Eastern Cape, and please never come here.

  • JMaree - 2013-11-06 15:13

    Could it not be maintained and used for youth sport development? Keeps them off the streets and creates a few much needed jobs?

      Jim King - 2013-11-06 16:42

      there is plans to build a world class convention centre on the site..n24 loves to stir emotions..why didnt they post the new plans for the land ?

  • Nico Raubenheimer - 2013-11-06 15:23

    I remember: 1980 - Springboks vs British Lions - 3rd Test - Very wet and raining - Gerrie Germishuys scores in the corner and Naas Botha converts to give Boks 12-10 match and series victory.

      Jim King - 2013-11-06 16:44

      nice..but lets build new memories..boet..the past was not good for everyone..a new project will surely be beneficial to the city

  • Martin Willemse - 2013-11-06 15:25

    i fail to see how this old stadium has anything to do with race, politics and what ever else you lot suck out of your thumbs. it old, there a new one...they will demolish it....what is the problem?

      Mark Ice - 2013-11-06 19:35

      The problem is that it waisted,away and coulf have been used much more effectively.The municipality lacks leaders that can think ahead.

      Rustin Engelbrecht - 2013-11-07 06:46

      If u will care about my heritage I will care abour ur's don't eva take stuff like this as a given

  • Greg Chemaly - 2013-11-06 15:59

    Sorry,definitaly not all whites.In fact I am proud to say that some of my best..............

  • Cina - 2013-11-06 16:16

    This is the Eastern Province for you. Everything falling to pieces stadiums, hospitals, schools and who know what else.

  • Greg Chemaly - 2013-11-06 16:20

    Jaycee you really are dumber than a bag of hammers.

      Spring Bok - 2013-11-06 16:25

      just shut that toothless hole why don't you !

  • Erik Prinsloo - 2013-11-06 16:38

    Post '94 no respect for pre.

  • Sean Bagley - 2013-11-06 16:40

    Soon Newlands will look like that too,

  • John Jessup - 2013-11-06 17:10

    It was also (in)famous for the nasty incident of bottle and rock throwing between the "white" and "non-white" enclosures. I think it was 1963 against Australia. I was there as a schoolboy. It started when the latter were somewhat provocatively supporting the visiting team. Some burly Karoo farmers did not like it and started throwing bottles. Within it seconds it started to rain bottles and rocks and stones. Fortunately we made a hasty retreat. Game was stopped and a tense order was restored.

  • Selma Botha - 2013-11-06 17:40

    Why was the Boet Erasmus not sold, demolished or redeveloped. The site must be worth millions.

  • Steve Jansen van Vuuren - 2013-11-06 18:33

    Tipies nuwe Suid Afrika, wil alles net F****** afbreek. Pres Zuma moet asseblief bedank , saam met die Minister van Sport. Hierdie stadium kon behoue gebly het vir die plaaslike sport klubs.

      Christo Botha - 2013-11-06 20:13

      Stem saam.Dis is so hartseer om SA geskiedenis so te sien.In al my jare in PE, was ek slegs 1keer daar, maar dit was n ordentlike stadion.Nie wereld klas nie, maar dit kon gebruik word vir ontwikkeling.Dit breek mens se hart om te weet groot name het spore daar getrap.Dink net..Hennie le Roux, Garth Wright, Hannes Strydom, Adri Geldenhuys, Domkrag Erasmus, Andre Vos.Net om n paar te noem.Wens ek het die geld gehad om iets te kon doen

      Pieter Klaasen - 2013-11-07 14:30

      Stem saam Christo. Voeg by: Danie Gerber, Fanie Cloete, Len Killeen, Eben Olivier, Kriek Erasmus, Orlando Gerber, Stan Terblanch, Willie Meyer, ens ens. As hulle nie die apartheids naam wou behou nie, verander die naam maar dat ons (ek) as n ouer mens goeie herinneringe van die plek behou.

  • Bathandwa Bathy Jonginamba - 2013-11-06 20:41

    depressing,everything about this so called rainbow nation is depressing.U people suck all of you.

  • Dooks Terkier - 2013-11-06 21:36

    KUSIETE

  • Gerhard Steenkamp - 2013-11-07 07:12

    Answer 2 questions... Who is running the show and why is it allowed??

      Marius Olivier - 2013-11-07 07:54

      It belongs to the PE municipality and it always has. The land is worth millions, because it is situated in an upmarket area only 400 metres from the beachfront and therefore worth much more to them to rather develop it for commercial purposes. This way they just save a bit on the demolishion costs by allowing vagrants to carry it away piece by piece.

  • Lourens Wurz - 2013-11-07 08:05

    And then our government will spend millions on new ventures...Shocking! This could have been upgraded or used for something else...but no! Out with the old (forgetting what have been spent on it) and in with the new!

  • Jaco Joubert - 2013-11-07 08:18

    Wel die sinkplaate is geborg deur die ANC vir nuwe behuising n naby gelee Township. Mense dis die toekoms van die Land moer hartseer om n plek so te sien maar Cheeky en Luke Watson vind seker genot uit die Afrikaans(Dutch) naam wat so op geneuk is. Nou haat ek die Kings meer as enige iets anders.

  • Spring Bok - 2013-11-07 09:03

    Laat een van hulle stadions nou so verwaarloos word dan sal jy sien hoe begin die spul se maagwerkings.....

  • Wicus Burger - 2013-11-07 09:05

    I played my 2000 Craven Week there. Sad to see it like this...

  • Koos van der Walt - 2013-11-07 09:38

    This picture of Boet Erasmus makes me so sad.I played quite a bit of rugby on this beautiful ground.

      Jim King - 2013-11-07 13:13

      we have a new stadium koos ! better and bigger.. a nice new conferance centre will be erected on the site..dont be a chop

      Spring Bok - 2013-11-07 13:21

      Yes Jim, a nice new conference centre so the ruling party can hold useless and countless parties, events, etc where they spend millions of tax payer's money ? What an awesome plan ! You go boy, catch the bone !

      Pierre Fourie - 2013-11-07 14:11

      Jim why didnt they just upgrade the stadium and instead of building a new stadium where they did just build a conference centre instead? Oh but wait neither you nor them can't think that far!

  • Tshepo Sneed Monyai - 2013-11-07 09:46

    that is bad

  • Greg Townes - 2013-11-07 10:58

    Boet Erasmus belongs to the PE municipality and EP rugby just rented it so municipality is at fault. Newlands belongs to all the rugby clubs in Cape Town and it's debenture shareholders. It also has around 200 boxes at a cost of over R10000 per season (income for shareholders i.e the clubs). It is also paid for, so only cost is maintenance. Cape Town stadium is owned by municipality, so WP would have to rent and has around 50 boxes.

  • Pete Stoter - 2013-11-07 12:41

    the roof sheets are now at the squatter camps.

  • John Jessup - 2013-11-07 13:37

    Fix it up or clear the site. Why do 3rd world countries and their 3rd world people just leave piles of crap everywhere? Is there no pride or do the authorities responsible not see how bad it looks and will become a disease-ridden cesspit that will eventually cost more to fix or clear.

  • Pieter Klaasen - 2013-11-07 14:12

    Geen politiek vir my nie. Ek het baie wedstryde in die Boet Erasmus gespeel. Lekker gees, veld ens. Het feitlik geen wedstryd gemis wat daar gespeel was nie. My punt in 2010 was, "waarom biljoene rand gaan spandeer om n nuwe stadion te bou. Gebruik helfte van daai geld en vergroot en upgrade Boet Erasmus soos wat hulle in Bloem en Loftus gedoen het. OP sou nog n stadion gehad het wat jare lank al klaar betaal was en soos voorheen kon rugby en sokker daar gespeel word. Miljoene in Umtata spandeer en die stadion is nie eens voltooi nie. Weet nie wie verantwoordelik is vir alles nie, maar in 2010 is te maklik geld spandeer om stadions te bou. Het vroeer vanjaar verby die Boet Erasmus gery en was geskok om te sien hoe die plek lyk. Breek af, verkoop die staal en bou huise daar. Groete uit Slaapstad.

  • Mike Thomas - 2013-11-07 16:42

    I agree with the sentiments, it was only a few weeks ago that I made a comment on Facebook about how the "Old Lady" was systematically being stripped bare and left to rot, a shame, I watched many games there including the "Battle of the Boet"

  • Stephanus Bernardus Buys - 2013-11-07 21:32

    Do you now understand why the EP Kings belong in the 1st division ? If rugby was truely alive it would not have happened. All which is alive there is political bs

  • Andrew Seagull Tomo - 2013-11-25 07:06

    What a shame. The Boet is part natural amphitheatre (the Northern terrace is built on ground) & its a short stroll to the beach from the stadium. Cannot believe there would not be demand for its use. Eish, maybe the plan is to turn it into a ghetto where from more violent & heinous crime can be conducted by Umkhonto.

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