SARU reject Kings request

2012-10-06 09:16

Johannesburg - The South African Rugby Union has kept its cap on foreign players in the Super Rugby to two per team, rejecting a request by tournament newcomers the Southern Kings to allow them more in their first season.

SARU said on Friday that "the status quo remained unchanged" regarding overseas players in franchise squads following a meeting in Johannesburg.

The Kings hoped to bring in more foreigners to help after being promoted for the 2013 season.

The Port Elizabeth-based Kings said this week they had signed New Zealander Hadleigh Parkes and Argentina and Toulouse scrumhalf Nicolas Vergallo, although there was doubt over Vergallo's move from France.

The Kings reportedly were hoping to sign as many as six foreigners for next year, when they will replace Johannesburg's Lions who were relegated by SARU.


  • nash.britz - 2012-10-06 09:31

    Kings are rediculous!

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-10-06 10:16

      What will they do now, sit on the field till there demands are met

      JaredVN - 2012-10-06 13:12

      This entire fiasco has been a farce from the beginning. It was supposed to be about "developing EC and specifically black" players, but it is now plain to see it is only about enriching the stinking Watson ANC-cadres. Voertsek, Puke and Cheeky!

      1nawty0 - 2012-10-07 07:27

      Firstly let me state that I don't like the Watson clan for the damage they inflicted to South African Rugby, I also believe their motives are self enrichment and prolonging the idiot son's career. There are two major problems to be addressed a) SARU and b) Eastern Cape schools rugby. A) SARU were bullied by Australia (and their allies New Zealand) into last years format, of all the home games between the provincial teams, thereby helping Australia to now have a domestic competition and we now have a "SUPER currie Cup". South African fans voted with their feet and don't attend live games any more and the REAL Currie cup competition is "Dying a slow death"! B) EASTERN CAPE SCHOOLS RUGBY: Traditionally, Between Selborne, Dale College, Queens College, Grey P.E. and other schools Produce exceptional talent, but they cannot hold this talent as players are poached into other provinces Universities and provincial teams by higher Salaries and Fame. IN CONCLUSION : Based on Talent Eastern Cape deserves a chance at higher Honours, but SARU and The Watson's have messed it up, top players are not prepared to sign-up and put their livelihoods on the line for only the next year to see their careers nosedive when the kings are Relegated.

  • robert.dood.1 - 2012-10-06 09:34

    An insult to SA rugby

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-06 09:40

    Are Saru enforcing this to make up for their mistakes??

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-06 09:42

    It should be NONE. There are simply to many SA players out in the dark/cold/wild/europe (primarily politics and perpetuated by money) that could make a valuable contribution in SA. Actually, we could have made up the 5th franchice from those players and STILL beat the Kings!

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-10-06 11:25

      Any high school second team could beat the kings !!

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-06 23:25

      any hobo in the street is smarter than Deetee

  • boltonbarry - 2012-10-06 09:43

    Suck it up. Sorry Kings but next year every match will be a relegation match for you. You wanted to play in the big leagues you should have had your house in order a long time ago.

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-10-06 09:55


      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-06 23:26

      I already started boycotting you, Idiot

  • neville.watson.31 - 2012-10-06 09:56

    Why all these foreign players, aren't there plenty of good south african players?

  • shorcha.visser - 2012-10-06 10:01

    Now the Kings gona run to the ANC and moan to get it there way 10/1

  • larysa.narozny - 2012-10-06 10:05

    Well done SARU !!!! Why should the Kings think that they are "special" & different from any other team in Super Rugby ????

  • gary.clark.376 - 2012-10-06 10:07

    Thought they did this to promote their province and all i hear is them buying buying buying..Cheeky you looser

  • Jason Scott Johnson - 2012-10-06 10:09

    The whole idea about the Kings is to improve the rugby in the eastern cape.the way they going now its going to be players from all over except the eastern cape.Cheecky Watson is a loser and thats why puke, sorry i mean luke is the way he is.this whole Kings thing is a joke

  • GregGow1234 - 2012-10-06 10:10

    Good they want the big time then they must enter it just like the rest had to.

  • martin.marais.90 - 2012-10-06 10:11

    Now they can show us there LOCAL black talent as how they tricked SARU to allow them! King$ se moer!!!

      sponge.plank - 2012-10-06 22:29

      If you're going to comment then type properly! This isn't an sms you're sending

  • gavin.jepson - 2012-10-06 10:15

    The King's se dinges!! Why should they get preference. They shouldn't be there in the first place. Cheeky Watson, puke and the rest MUST get NO special treatment. One year and back to the juniors I fear!!

  • lukesureen.evans - 2012-10-06 10:22

    is this not meant to be the team that brings in transformation - clearly not - so why the hell do we need them then - BRING BACK THE LIONS

  • gert.swart.393 - 2012-10-06 10:33

    The kings hoped to steal all the Lions' players but seems that most Lions puked on their plans

  • storm.chambers.5 - 2012-10-06 11:10

    Why not just give them the the trophy

      gillian.d.toit - 2012-10-06 16:43

      Damn beat me too it.

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-06 23:30

      storm they can't be given that, but they will just be like other cupless teams who palyed in Super rugby for donkeys years and have f*^^k all to show. just plain useless teams who will always tell us they were almost close to winning it, pathetic, all hail the KINGS

  • jim.gordon.129 - 2012-10-06 11:17

    Strange that the Kings want more foreign players when they have been trying to convince us that they have more local players than anywhere in South Africa. Same rules must apply to all.

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-10-06 11:37

    These Southern Kings must really be a bunch of idiots. The damn cheek to make such a request. Was under the impression that they had more than enough players in the Eastern Cape and to give them the chance of playing but now they want more foreigners to play for them.

  • Ndongz - 2012-10-06 11:37

    What f*cken happened to that \we're developing rugby in eastern cape\ crap I really thought the southern kings were gonna get my support,they can voetsek for all I care bloody hypocrites

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-06 23:32

      you can just do as you just said, f(*^%k off for all we care, we don't need non EC pallokas anyway

  • andrew.gordon.505523 - 2012-10-06 11:42

    Good. Now the Kings can do what they 'claimed' to do. Which is use local talent, specifically from the Eastern Cape.

  • wikus.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-06 11:51

    Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the Kings(Cheeky Watson) telling everyone they need a place in super rugby to bring the game to the eastern cape and expose the undiscovered talent they have available? So why do they want all the foreign players then?

  • werner.pretorius.12 - 2012-10-06 12:11

    As die Kings teen die Crusaders speel belowe ek vandag sal ek vir die Crusaders skree.

      catharina.j.nel - 2012-10-06 19:14

      As jy my vra vir wie ek skree vra ek eers, teen wie speel Op.

  • daniel.bulbring - 2012-10-06 12:31

    A difficult situation indeed, but SARU had promised to let the Kings play in SupeRugby for years but waited until the last moment to announce the decision. SARU are the ones who should be embarrassed. It's also ridiculous that they only have one year in which to prove themselves without allowing them to recruit extra players. What many people don't seem to understand is that the situation is a double-edged sword. You must come at least 4th in the SA conference to avoid being relegated after only one year, but on the other hand you must promote black rugby players. Well, unfortunately if you don't make the first year unscathed, then you won't be around to promote anybody! What choice do they have? Plus, for years EP players have been poached by the other provinces because they just couldn't match the salaries. It's about time EP rugby get to where they belong, despite what people say.

      lonewolf1806 - 2012-10-06 13:17

      Agreed Daniel..But its unfair to give a under performing team the spot of a team that could beat them any time and any place..Why didn't SARU organize a relegation match between the Lions and the Kings? Luckily Im a Bulls supporter and my team together with all the other teams are going to eat the Kings for breakfast..Free points for every game played against the Kings!! By the way..have you checked the Currie Cup log recently?

      werner.pretorius.12 - 2012-10-06 13:24

      Dan moes SARU hul in die Curriebeker toegelaat het.

      matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-06 13:32

      Lonewolf, a relegation match would not have been all that fair either. You would have a \non existing\ franchise play a franchise with the benefits and privileges of many years of SR. I say non existing because the EP Kings 2012 is NOT the Southern Kings 2013. They would not be able to field any new signings that would obviously bolster their squad. Not really a level playing field is it? Maybe after we had the same priviliges yes. But we will make the best of the situation that we have. ALL the franchises had a tough time to start with. We will stick with our team no matter what. Only thing that's a bit unfair still is that NO other franchise faced a promo game after their 1st season if they did badly. Well, I have enough faith in the Kings to believe they will actually not be the last placed team...

      nico.pretorius.946 - 2012-10-06 15:00

      hahahaha, sorry daniel, but the kings were told beginning of the year they are playing, in fact, they were the only team assured a place in next year's super rugby, so they did not wait until the last moment. then, big puke has been saying for years they have the players and they are ready for super rugby, or is that just a way to get his name in newspapers? hahahahaha, looking forward to all the hidings you are going to get next year :)

      nick.collis.16 - 2012-10-06 15:19

      My pet point ! Politics and international / first class sport shouldn't mix. All EP's development should have been done at school/university and club level . If this had genuinely happened over the years there would be a chance of local black players combining with a couple of imports to produce a competitive squad but we all know this hasn't happened!.All government and SARU pressure is from the top down instead of the other way round.

      wanderering.wanderer - 2012-10-07 07:06

      Are you by any chance family of David Bulbring that plays for the queens?

  • matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-06 13:36

    Bring it on!!! Southern Kings will be there, and we will support them NO MATTER WHAT!!!

  • cecil.wright.142 - 2012-10-06 16:00

    This is so pathetic it is just not true. What are these morons even doing playing in the super 15 league anyway???? Shows exactly what state the country is in when government policy dictates in sport. After 18 years they are obviously still classified as one of the " previously disadvantaged " I am embarrassed and ashamed to have South African on my birth certificate

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-06 23:36

      same old nonsense, b*&^%ng and moaning and whining, go and call 702, thats where people like you belong

  • jim.dickson2 - 2012-10-06 16:05

    They replace the Lions who have been dropped by SARU! The Lions were not "relegated" neither were the Kings "promoted". It was politics within SARU. SARU bent over backwards to accommodate Cheeky Watson. Enough is enough. Play with what you have and let's see if you belong there.

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-06 23:37

      do you want Cheecky to be your galfriend, I can arrange that, seeing all you people are obsessed with this great leader from EC

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-10-07 08:47

    I smell a bit of Watson in preferrential treatment ,request.

  • werner.klee.5 - 2012-10-07 09:38

    Was this team not started too promote and uplift East Cape players? Looks like the team is consisting of every body except East Cape players. Mr "I am a rugby Saint" Watson and there board of directors is only in it for the money. Only thing they wants too uplift is there bank balance!

  • louis.bensch.31 - 2012-10-08 08:22

    Welcome to the real world kots se pa, just shut up and and make your name gatter next year..

  • nicholas.a.groves - 2012-10-10 10:51

    Hmmmmmm....lets assume that there was no EP/Southern Kings, and no other SA franchise to promote... That would make the Lions the laughing stock of 15 world class Super Rugby teams. Lions have only the Currie cup to brag about (won, mind you against teams less their springboks). Give the Kings a chance - As stated before we may not win a game, but neither did the western Force when they had their debut either.... The argument of buying players is nonsensical. Look at all our SA franchises - 70% of players in each franchise have played in other provinces. So weather you buy a player from the Free state and play him in The Sharks, or buy a player from an Argentine club and play him in the Kings is the same..... SARU has dragged its heels far too long on this issue now, and EP deserve the chance. With a Super rugby chance comes big money. We may be relegated, but at least we will be able to manage our Union better, retain talent, and add to it for 2014... "just sayin' "

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