Jake: Bok defence needs work

2011-08-22 11:16

Cape Town - Former Springbok coach Jake White has warned the Boks that they will need to improve their defence to stand a chance of winning the Rugby World Cup.

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Peter de Villiers’s team put in a courageous performance to beat a weakened New Zealand side by 13 points at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium in Port Elizabeth on Saturday, in what was their last game before the World Cup.

The Boks conceded only five points and scored 18, but had their first line of defence breached regularly during the game and were forced to make several last-ditch, try-saving tackles.

Speaking on his website, White praised the Boks for their commitment, but said they would not be as fortunate during the World Cup and advised the team to shore up its defence.

“The positive was we only conceded five points against those attacking players. Henry said a lack of execution and maturity once they'd made the linebreak cost them, and he was right,” said White.

“We'll have to tighten our first phase defence, because you won't always get away with it and we won't always be able to scramble to that effect. In a different game, the opposition will finish.

“World Cups are won on defence and (Graham) Henry praised the Bok defence, especially the physicality and passion. But we won't be allowed that much leeway every weekend, because the All Blacks did everything right except finish.”

White coached the Springboks to victory in the 2007 World Cup and is currently employed by Australian Super Rugby franchise, the Brumbies.


  • Jackool - 2011-08-22 11:26

    uh Jake, like they don't know that and like they asked Nienaber to come over for tea and a chat about dolphins. Most of those first line of defense breaches are due to dubious forward off loads by the AB's, for which they will get nailed in the World Cup (I hope).

      Raka13 - 2011-08-22 11:42

      Jack - good comment on the dubious off loades. No team can have a structured defence plan for that - it will be like gambling on the bounce of the ball. The boks should however work on their first time tackles, it is not acceptable to miss so many tackles. I have noticed that Habana is back to his old tackling technique - instead trying to grind the attacking guy to the ground and be applaud for a great tackle - he goes for the ball whilst tackling if you understand what I mean? Chester also used to defend like that.

      Obama Bin Laden - 2011-08-22 11:58

      Jake better hope that the Brumbies win everything when he's in charge. Because if they don't, I predict a lot of "advice" being forthcoming from this end of the world.

      McDaNife - 2011-08-22 11:58

      Jake you must throw in your pennys worth, always looking for the faults instead giving some credit.

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-22 12:02

      Why is Jake always at the Boks??? Doesnt he have his own set of problems at the Brumbies? I respect him, but he is giving me a pain in the ass now.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-22 12:05

      @GraemeBB - I wish Jake would comment on the role of a 'fetcher' once more.......If this man was still coaching, Heinrich Brussow would be fetching him beer, not starting for the Boks. @News24 - Please ask Jake if his opinion on the importance of 'fetchers' has changed somewhat? Also ask him if any of Pocock, Brussow and Richie would ever have featured in his starting 15. Dankie.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-08-22 12:29

      Do you guys realise that newsites get opinions from many people but they just decide to use White all the time to rile you up? If what he says is "obvious" then maybe it is because that is indeed an issue. I don't see White saying the Boks are not focusing on the right issue, just that it hasn't been fixed yet, which is entirely correct.

      C S - 2011-08-22 12:32

      Not sure why News24 give Jake so much 'air-time' ... surely there are less 'sour-grape' comments that would be FAR more interesting from other knowledgable rugby analysts and coaches??

      Redwine - 2011-08-22 12:48

      No sh-t? You dream this up all by yourself or you asked Eddy what he thought? Maybe Jake can tell us why the Lions went backwards at a rate of knots when he was hanging around there. Ditto for all the small teams and schools that got him involved. All recorded a serious decline in their rugby. SA only made progress under Eddy despite having this fool around

      daspoort - 2011-08-22 13:04

      Redwine. Serious Decline??? Interesting..

      Netherlands - 2011-08-22 14:08

      Jake... please PI55 OFF, already! Enough with the comments... there are PLNTY ARM CHAIR COACHES IN THIS BLOGSITE!!!!! Jeez man,.... wait till the Super Series starts and check the COMMENTS FROM THE ARM CHAIR COACHES, ABOUT YOUR TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Grant - 2011-08-22 14:14

      @Saffacat - regarding the fetcher role... White would NEVER leave Brussow on the bench. Whilst he was coaching, South Africa simply didnt have any quality fetchers. An AVERAGE fetcher would not have given the Boks any advantage, and certainly not enough of one to leave out someone like Burger. Brussow is pure class, and therefore merits his place in the team. Playing a fetcher just to "have" a fetcher is stupid. Playing him because he is good, on the other hand, is just common sense...

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-22 17:37

      @Grant - I beg to differ. Jake also had a few comments about players that are 'too small' for international rugby......I am betting you Heinrich Brussow would have been one of those. Jake believed in size over skill.

      2012 - 2011-08-22 20:32

      are we going to be the only team at the World Cup...with our Captain sitting on the bench??!! Should they decide to start with Bismarck.....that means that Smit won't be captain, Matfield will be........pointless!?? Should they start with Smit, to be subbed not too long into the match....we are left with out our captain yet again!!?? Matfield is the only certain Starter Captain Available!!! SA Rugby will have the same regret like they did with Teichman.......only this time they should have done so!!

      flat bier - 2011-08-22 23:46 the all blacks did everything right except finish??? What about the All Black scrum?

      ashley.snalam - 2011-08-23 09:37

      Jackool you do realise that the referees dislike SA with a passion and come world cup time we land up playing 16 men generally. I trust the BOKS and not our coaching fraternity lets hope though that Rassie and Nienaber have much bigger influence then just our defense cause its obvious to all the the 3 stooges are useless

  • garthj - 2011-08-22 11:27

    Agree with Jake. We were lucky to get away with the score we did in PE. A lot better though from the lads.

      slg - 2011-08-23 07:15

      It's virtually a hopeless cause our WC campaign.

  • - 2011-08-22 11:38

    Noooo you lie any fool could see the defence was lacking. Worry about your Brumbies rather Jake you are not the SA coach anymore.

  • Scottish - 2011-08-22 11:39

    Only reason why this guy can run his mouth so much is because he won the RWC in 2007... Otherwise, even he knows we played a game filled with passion and intent to win in PE.

      Statistic - 2011-08-22 14:22

      So what is a higher achievement then winning the WC? He's not running his mouth off, he said this on his own website you noob.

      Scottish - 2011-08-22 16:31

      when was the last time a positive comment came out of Jake's mouth about the springboks? call it jealousy??? I dnt know. But back to my point... The boys played with a big spirit, hence the victory, if Jake fails to se that then I think he should just hush.

      Netherlands - 2011-08-22 23:04

      The Boks, under a certain Mr White, lost 49-0 to Aussie back in 2007... remember? Keep that mouth closed Mr White!

      Mickey Fin - 2011-08-22 23:33

      @Scottish. Just what do you think Jake is jealous of? He has a World Cup under the belt. He is purely stating a fact that is clear for anyone to see. You SAFFA's have a very short concentration span and this very same team that has been hammered by all and sundry the past 18 months are now suddenly the World Champs of 2011 and Snoerre the best coach ever. Come the semis and the All Blacks take the Boks out, then this team is the worst ever and Snoerre must be tarred and feathered. Really pathetic!

  • Marx - 2011-08-22 11:40

    Looks at the Scoreboard I say. We need to fine-tune our first line of defense. We were lucky a few times, the harder you train, the luckier you get!!

      Chronoman - 2011-08-22 13:51

      Yes @Marx, it transpires from a lot of comments here that making your tackles makes you lucky. Interesting view about rugby, that one.

  • Daniel - 2011-08-22 11:41

    Is News24 the official media partner of the Jake White website? Are you his PR company? It's like everything he posts on his site has the importance of a press conference.

  • GT - 2011-08-22 11:41

    Jake knows his rugby, he is a RWC winning coach. Defense, like as on Saturday, will win us the world cup. We should now focus on being super fit and getting around the park faster than any other team. The rest will fall into place.

      HJS - 2011-08-22 13:27

      So nice to read a "sane" comment from GT amongst some of the jealous junk.

  • Babba x - 2011-08-22 11:43

    Don't worry Jake, it will be sorted. We've got Nienaber in there...

  • Drewka - 2011-08-22 11:43

    Ag Jake, shut the hell up please. We don't need your commets in South Africa any more. Why don't you comment on your new found Ozzie side rather. Blerry Chop!!!

      Kaapie - 2011-08-22 12:16

      I feel the same way about this okes chirps.. frankly I think he's worried that the Bokke are showing glimpses of form that may win the WC. Under Jake the bokke could only kick, defend and also scored min tries.. Si imo Jake must worry about the Brumbies

      daspoort - 2011-08-22 12:34

      Drewka, Jake White knows more about rugby than you, so I think you should rather shut up! Kaapie, remind me please, is the name of the game "the-team-that-scores-most-tries-wins"? If you want to see tries, go watch schools rugby. TEST rugby is about winning, not scoring tries. World Cup Finals are not won by scoring tries.

      daspoort - 2011-08-22 13:31

      Kaapie, the average number of tries scored for SA, NZ and Aus: South Africa under Jake White: 3.59 New Zealand under Graham Henry: 3.97 Australia under John Connely: 3.72 And you said we could only kick??? Kick sand defence is vital for winning games. Send me your a address, I will send you "Rugby for Dummies". Free of charge.

  • Evelyn - 2011-08-22 11:45

    Its funny how Jake now has all these ideas that he did not have when he was coach!!! Face it dear Jake, you are not the coach anymore!! move on!!! P Div has won 1 world cup, just like u

      balderdash - 2011-08-22 12:11

      When did P Div win the World Cup?

      DeonL - 2011-08-22 14:11

      Div has only 1 Tri- nation and not much else. The RWC is only next month.

      Shnez - 2011-08-22 14:29

      OK!? What world cup Has DIV Won!? He has only one something thanx to Jake for building a foundation!!!

      christiaan.jaarsveld - 2011-08-22 17:10

      He did have these ideas when he was the coach how the hell do you think we won the WC?

      Dillyn - 2011-08-28 17:05

      wc win is jy dronk?

  • 2012 - 2011-08-22 11:45 really are a bit of a douchebag of late.... just concentrate on your own team tactics instead...hopefully there is enough players to help you with your emotional meltdowns down under...!

  • Utopian - 2011-08-22 11:45

    Oh Jakie. Do you remember when the boks were almost beaten Connuaght a few weeks before the 2007 World Cup. I remember well that you were dragged over the coals for the sloppy defensive pattern. You said that it was important not to reveal your hand until the oppotune moment. Maybe... just maybe that is the case here.

  • Raeez - 2011-08-22 11:46

    Hou jou blerrie bek man!!!!!!!!!! Some1 please shut him up. He always talk s(*& bout the Bokke ever since he left.

  • Tsotsoma - 2011-08-22 11:46

    Can't this guy focus on coaching the brumbies?

  • Michael - 2011-08-22 11:46

    Jake White's actual article is well written, thoughtful, and I thought well balanced. I find it quite difficult to respond to a couple of sentences taken from a 500 word article without seeing the context in which those statements were made.

  • Cornel - 2011-08-22 11:47

    Jake the Snake strikes again. Well not all bad commentary this time mind you. I believe the Boks will be working hard on set pieces before the world cup; specifically the line outs to ensure we do not lose any go forward ball. The first line of defence will be improved significantly by the time we hit the knock out stages of the world Cup (I hope we make it that far) as we will have a chance to go against very physical sides with the Fijians and Samoans which I believe could benefit us in the long run as we work on our title defence. The Welsh are our first obstacle and I thought they played a very balanced game against the Argentinians this past weekend when all the bok supporters were drinking their hearts out. We have a very hard group and probably barring injury get the best preparation prior to the knock out stages. Tempering by fire. Well I am looking forward to all the games at this point.

  • Sportslover - 2011-08-22 11:48

    Amazing how Jake has nothing positive to say about the current SA side. While I do believe he did a great job as coach and won us a World Cup and even more so, I do not believe in our coach and assistants, we have brought in Erasmus and Nienaber for those issues to be resolved. Instead of rendering support and encouragement to the Bokke, all that comes out his mouth is negativity. The sour milk has to come to an end at some point and let the players and coaches be accountable once they finish the world cup. Either positively or negatively. I almost feel that Jake would rather see us lose so he can say I told you so. I am losing respect for him with every comment that comes out of his mouth and I think that Sport 24 should rather get other opinions from other guys in the know. I bet Naas would not knock our team at every opportunity!!!!

  • Bellakanoose - 2011-08-22 11:49

    Jake is so annoying, cripes!

  • Tumi Motlatla - 2011-08-22 11:51

    Ek is gatvol met die man.....shut the hell up Jake!

      daspoort - 2011-08-22 12:40

      Well done Jake, you brought us the RWC and you were treated like a piece of sh*t. Don't listen to these fools. Jake White, you are a LEGEND!!

  • BosBeFonk - 2011-08-22 11:53

    Ok - so next year when the Super Rugby starts we will be judging Jake and advise him on what to do with the Brumbies. Jake - we did everything right except first line defence so what's your point? We won. Please shut your pie hole.

      Granny - 2011-08-22 12:41

      Why should criticism of Jake become so personal. Think what you like but be careful what you put into words. Say what you like about him, he is still far more knowlegeable than any of you lot. He has devoted his entire grown up life learning his trade and deserves a little more respect. Of course, that is impossible when you dislike someone - much easier to say something stupid. Granny

      Bootman - 2011-08-22 13:49

      Wow! Now Jake's got his grandmother covering for him.

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-22 12:00

    I wish he would change his websites name to :

  • Mathaithai - 2011-08-22 12:01

    Jack is making a lot of noise. He must concentrate at his job in Aussie and leave DIV alone. No one interfered with his job when coach of Boks. He even enlisted Jones to help him win and no one complained!!! Whenever he opens his mouth, he either critisises or offer some stupid advices. It appears he is still crying for Boks job as if it is only meant for whites. Let us wait for the cup to start and see what happens!! You agent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      PussyGalore - 2011-08-22 13:47

      I was waiting for some Simian to play a race card somewhere. Well done M...something

  • Craig Haupt - 2011-08-22 12:07

    Eddie Jones to comment next...

  • Canibus - 2011-08-22 12:12

    LOL.. "...All Blacks did everything right except finish.." Wouldnt you say that the defense ensured that the All Blacks couldnt finish? But hey... you are the one the won the World Cup in 2007 with Eddie Jones by your side.

      Neles - 2011-08-22 12:38

      oh, was that a world cup? I was under the impression he was coach while we played England, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Argentina ... and then another against England.

      daspoort - 2011-08-22 13:07

      Neles, you seem to think the RWC format does not work. How should it be structured then? New Zealand automatically qualify for the finals each RWC??

  • bossorig - 2011-08-22 12:13

    Jake, whither and fade away already....all you do is criticsize the team you were no longer good enough to coach. Why dont you offer some insight into the mating habits of the koala bear and dingos rather, since they are more relevant to "when we" SAfricans...

  • neville.mclean - 2011-08-22 12:17

    Classic South Africans fans the lot of you!!!! Love a man when he has won the world cup, hate him when he as left???? How can you guys be so bitter???? He writes on his own website, News24 use his articles and you slate him!! shame on you!!!! the man is a rugby genius, having won 2 world cups (we all forget about the junior boks world cup win) Surely the man is entitled to express his opinion, his opinion which is obviously more valuable and insightful than you lot who just criticise the man and not what he says!!! !!! Since when are we South Africans so bitter!!!! WOW!!!!!

      Neles - 2011-08-22 12:46

      oh, was that a world cup? I was under the impression he was coach while we played England, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Argentina ... and then another against England..

      Shark-Chic - 2011-08-22 12:51

      couldn't agree with you more. He was a great coach (had his ups and downs too) who won it for us and which has given us another chance to be the first country to defend the title. I am not a Pdiv fan at all, but it would be awesome if we would be able to make this chance a reality. BOKKKKKKE!!!!!!!

      FJ2 - 2011-08-22 13:43

      @Neles: Ja, that was a world cup, won by the team whou could handle the pressure and lost by a few others who got derailed by the enormity of what they were attempting.

  • MB1810 - 2011-08-22 12:24

    I really don't think this is meant as a snub. Just some friendly advice on what Jake would have focussed on if he was still the man in the hot seat. Before he was SA's head coach he was a technical advisor for the Boks, he is a smart guy and perhaps someone worth listening to, regardless of his feelings towards SARU and the current guys in charge of the Boks.

  • Leighton - 2011-08-22 12:31

    Just a comment on the maych officials of Saturday's game, they were all from the nothern hemisphere (besides the tv ref) and you can see they struggled to keep up with the pace of the game. they missed many forward passes etc. they acted more like spectators than anything else. Lastly i believe Heinrich Brussouw is our "Carter".. Daai's maar al

  • daspoort - 2011-08-22 13:14

    Jake White is a LEGEND!!

  • Tinus - 2011-08-22 13:23

    For all you Anti Jake White fan club out there keep the comments rolling, the more you lot complain about the man the more news24 are going to publish what he says. Not only is he a world cup winning coach, he know how to sell a story, and you guys are being caught hook,line and sinker every time. Keep it up.

  • FM150 - 2011-08-22 13:29

    The defencive structure proofed to be effective, looking at the so called "scrambled defence", witch really refers to the lines and areas that a player was assigned to, not making the tackle should cover! Its now up to the individual making the tackle not to miss. It was the player letting down the structure that resulted in the first line breaking. And please remember, its the player getting the offload ball who is the danger! Not the offloader so stay on the defencive line, theres no need for two players tackling one man WHEN the ball goes wide.

  • Totman - 2011-08-22 13:36

    Why are so many going for JW's throat? He made a statement on his website. Sport24 got if from there to have news. He has the same amount of right than all of us have to air our opinion. Bitterness, and something like reject reveals because he had to look for a job in another country. He point out what all of us are worried about. He also mention "us" and not "them". That indicates that he still see himself as a South African. His observation is 100%. Not saying we can't and will not get it right. He just spoke of what he observed and what he knows out of his experience. I am not in particular a JW fan, but If we agree on something I belief to air it. This inborn negativeness in us sometimes let us forget what is on the table and rather goes for another's throat instead of addressing it and explain how we see it. Stop playing the man and go for the ball!!!!

      Totman - 2011-08-22 13:38

      Mend "rejection"

  • Tsotsoma - 2011-08-22 13:45

    Dear Dr Jake White, The super 15 tournament is starting next year and I expect your team not to miss any tackles, or concede any try. you should be able to beat your opponents pants down without a sweat.

      Greegs - 2011-08-22 13:57

      Jake is 100% correct. Our defense line was broken 23 times and that is worrying. Not even the NZ A team. Can you imagine? I do agree that it was a much better performance from the boys.

  • mbube - 2011-08-22 13:57

    Jake White stepping in for Captain Obvious like always?

  • John Jameson - 2011-08-22 14:02

    Jake White should be reminded that he only won his fabled 2007 Rugby World Cup final courtesy of some desperate scrambled cover defense that prevented an almost certain try after the first line of his defense had been broken. Very similar to this weekend's game, but with a different coach. Just try to Google the words "MARK CUETO'S DISALLOWED TRY COST ENGLAND THE 2007 RUGBY WORLD CUP" for some excellent visuals to refresh your memory.

  • - 2011-08-22 14:04

    C'mon guys....... Say it with me - JAKE WHITE HOU JOU BEK!!!!!!!!!

  • matthew - 2011-08-22 14:17

    Lets face it guys, the Sringflowers will certainly do South Africa proud! They will loose to Ireland and to Samoa! Then at least Divy will be out!!!

  • - 2011-08-22 14:37

    Shut the hell up!!!!

  • Mrgreeky - 2011-08-22 14:41

    As long as we don't heed the advice given by experts even if it is Jake White we won't be a major factor at the WC. He is just stating the obvious, PDV And Graham Henry said it our "scramble defense" was brilliant, it was!! that's because our first line of defense was breached so often, as early as the AB first touch of the ball, scramble defense is the same as sticking your fingers in the holes appearing in the dam wall. Jaq Fourie intercepted a ball running towards his own tryline, we managed to hang on to boots and jerseys long enough to hold the AB out, statistics say they had 5 or 6 opportunities. We won and most boks were brilliant and still we needed a brilliant scramble defense to win and the boot of Morne' Steyn who a few weeks ago everyone was calling for him to be dropped. Luckily I don't think Jake White is saying anything our coaching staff don't know.

  • ohwell - 2011-08-22 14:54

    oh jake, you doing exactly what you disliked when you were bok coach. well done. boks must decide smith plays hooker or not at all. and our loose fwd we need to pick and stick with them. lets pray that nothing happens to victor and bakkies. div must stick with a flyhalf, steyn, lambie, butch

  • powachair - 2011-08-22 16:20

    Oh! Shut up Jake. Go and coach the Brumbies.

  • waratawu - 2011-08-22 16:32

    Jake you musn't do it on the Fosters please

  • BlueRaven - 2011-08-22 16:54

    Jake you need work, and a lot off it.

  • Kevin - 2011-08-22 17:52

    For many of the idiots who posted comments on this article. Learn to listen, read and digest constructive criticism. If our present coaching staff were great they would have had a better win/loss record, as they took over a World Cup winning squad. Last Saturdays test showed the Boks as clueless in creating scoring chances, whilst their beaten opponents created several. Kamikaze defence may win matches but is unsustainable for a lot of matches as it has a high attrition rate on players. We need to create scoring chances and continue to improve our defence if we are to have any chance of defending the World Cup.

  • malput - 2011-08-22 23:15

    could someone please explain to me why jp pieterson is in the springbok set up,as he has no clue about defence (i dont think i have ever seen him attempt to take anyone below the armpits) and how many tries has he scored for the boks and when last did he score for the boks

  • Owentjie - 2011-08-23 03:51

    To all the negative nancies out there. Take note "We'll have to tighten our first phase defence""we won't be allowed that much leeway every weekend" Jake White is proudly South African, and I think he has earned hiw right to express his opinion!

  • Lions Man - 2011-08-23 09:37

    What a bunch of negative so called rugby fans commenting on here. Reading these comments its embarrassing to be a Springbok supporter sometimes. You people have a lot to say to man who won TWO world cups and was hung out to dry by the politicians involved in sport in this country, the very same politicians you all think are idiots. If Jake was a Kiwi, Aussie or Pom he would still be in his job and when you lot have achieved one tenth of what he has in rugby then maybe you can open your toxic little traps.

  • Dillyn - 2011-08-28 16:55

    people people people....if you all know so much why dont you get a coaching job somewhere. Jake White is only looking out for our boys and is aloud to voice his concerns, and why shouldnt he...he bladdy coached the boys to a world cup victory...i just dont get the negative attitude here. bladdy wake up and support each other instaed of nitpicking on comments made by our proffesional sure that you all have issues at your respective job roles....sis mense.

  • Dillyn - 2011-08-28 17:11

    peopl people people. White praised the Boks for their commitment, The positive was we only conceded five points against those attacking players. Henry said a lack of execution and maturity once they'd made the linebreak cost them, and he was right,” said White. White coached the Springboks to victory in the 2007 World Cup . see above!!! Did you read the article properly Jake has a huge amount of passion for springbok rugby so shut up an get behind the bladdy boks rather than nit picking at our profesional coaches all must be so perfect at your respective job roles...????

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