White: Coetzee to succeed Div

2011-08-23 08:39

Canberra - Jake White has given Allister Coetzee his vote of confidence to succeed Peter de Villiers when the current Springbok coach's tenure comes to an end.

Speaking from his RugbyXV website, White said he felt that Coetzee was the most obvious choice to replace De Villiers if the current Springbok coach is axed after the Rugby World Cup.

“I think it's only fair that Allister gets the job, and that has nothing to do with me having worked with him before. Allister should've got the job in 2008, when he knew the players like the back of his hand.”

In 2008, Coetzee, Chester Williams and Heyneke Meyer lost out on the Springbok coaching post after SARU decided De Villiers was the best candidate for the position after his successful spell with the Baby Boks.

White went on to add that Coetzee’s subsequent accomplishments had proven his readiness for the task.

“The Stormers have finished second on the Super Rugby log twice in the past two years under Allister, something that shouldn't be shirked at. He's been groomed by SA Rugby to do the job, and it would be wrong of them not to pick him at the last hurdle again.”

“He's coached SA 'A', SA Under-23, been an assistant Bok coach - how could they not pick him? He's gone through the ranks and has a list of achievements to show it would be an injustice if they don't pick him,” White added.

De Villiers's current contract runs until the end of the 2011 Rugby World Cup.


  • slg - 2011-08-23 08:46

    This would be another mistake. Only coaches who have consistently won at the highest level should be appointed. That is the Super 14/15.

      René Müller - 2011-08-23 08:51

      And who will replace Dick Muir and Gary Gold? It's not just PDivvy that should pack his bags, but the 2 assistant coaches as well. Dick Muir's backline coaching is as entertaining as watching paint dry!

      Shark-Chic - 2011-08-23 08:58

      Rassie, Coetzee and

      René Müller - 2011-08-23 09:14

      Shark-Chic, they would make a formidable team, however I doubt Heyneke would go that route after the treatment he got from SARU. Would also hate to lose him at the Bulls, he is super valuable!!!

      Cynix - 2011-08-23 10:56

      Hey Jake, ride off slowly into the sunset - take Olie le Roux with you. And by the way, get Brumbies on a winning streak first!

      pcpcoetzee89 - 2011-08-23 11:11

      Eish JAKE ... why oh why should we not consider a WINNING COACH as the next Bok Coach - for heaven sake? Yes Allister is by all accounts a good guy, talking coherent and certainly experienced .... but what silverware has Allister won? What rugby competitions have Allister won? What rugby milestones have Allister achieved? Nope ... we NEED a champion coach of note to take over from P DIVVY!!!

      radar - 2011-08-23 14:07

      If you want to play modern rugby and use the full potential of our awesome talent pool, then John Mitchell is the best available coach in South Africa. Look what he has done in a short period of time with below average talent at the Lions. Their brand of rugby is lovely to watch and he will probably challenge strongly for the Currie Cup honours this year. John Mitchell has a 2 and 4 year plan for his teams and he would be outstanding with the Boks. Can you imgaine him unleashng our true depth of talent on the world - we would be fighting it out for # 1 world ranking with the All Blacks every year - not just a sniff come world cup and then drilled in the lead up and post world cups by Aus and NZ. Like they have done with cricket, it is time to appoint the best available coach regardless of skin colour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John Mitchell the perfect candidate to transform old style Bok rugby - which is bloody boring to watch in the modern era. All about creating pressure in the opposition half and kicking for territory. Come SARU - pull your finger out of your prverbial butts and understand that you are running a professional sport> It is time to take Bok rugby to another level!!

      HondaTypeR - 2011-08-23 14:09

      slg , you are a sour Bulls supporter hey... I think Allister would be a great choice.

  • aussiebok - 2011-08-23 08:47

    the poll on : shows Rassie Erasmus must get the job. go and vote at above link.

      Magmansa - 2011-08-23 08:55

      I went to your blog, got some good stuff on there, don't agree with sum of ur reserves tho. I voted John Mitchell :-p

      CJHoy - 2011-08-23 09:13

      rassie will never take the job, nor naas, or anyone decent ever again,,, they're not stupid or arrogant enough to fall into that trap

      Blougroen - 2011-08-23 09:36

      @Aussiebok - Do you really think a white man would apply for the job again . . . how stupid do you have to be to realise your country doesnt want your skills or expertise, irrespective of the consequences . . . you have been away for a while . . . .

      Leftyloosy - 2011-08-23 09:50

      @CJHoy -- thank god naas will never take the job.

  • Kerr - 2011-08-23 08:52

    Agreed. Ali Coetzee has cut his teeth ast every level. He is an excellent coach. An this time, if SARU appoint him, it will meet the approval of everyone. Firstly, he is a true student of the game, and has excellent strategies for all teams, and prepares his team accordingly (we have seen this time ans again with the Stormers). Therefore he should meet with the approval of Rugby supporters who recognise his worth. Secondly, he will meet the approval of the Politicians as he is a previously disadvantaged guy. The difference with this case will be he wont be appointed on political grounds (as PdV was, which was admitted to us bu Oregan Hoskins). I think Ali Coetzee is the ideal man. Rope in Heyneke Meyer into the fold, and I can guarentee the Boks will be back to where they belong in no time at all.

      Sarge - 2011-08-23 09:01

      Please no!!!! The Springboks cant afford to be runner ups for the rest of their lives!!! We need a coach that knows how to win!!!!!

      MaestroX - 2011-08-23 09:05

      Have to agree with you Kerr, Coetzee with Meyer (if he would accept an advisory role) would make for a good combination I think. Other than those two I think we would need to go for a foreigner. Deans if he gets booted from Aus would be nice, although I am sure he is destined for the AB job sooner or later.

      Slingervel - 2011-08-23 09:29

      And he has the right colour!

      Blougroen - 2011-08-23 09:55

      @MaestroX - why the hell should Heyneke Meyer accept an advisory role - last time around he was adjudged the best candidate available . . . . . do you think it was okay for SARU do destroy his coaching career ?

      Leftyloosy - 2011-08-23 09:57

      @Sarge really.. and who would that be? heyneke? So we can play bulls bashim up crap for the next 4 years? Heyneke who apparently built a "pipeline of talent" for the bulls yet now they buying up players from all over the country to build their team again. I wouldnt go for any of these coaches, none of them have moved their teams towards the mondern game. Bashim up is the name of the game for them. it will work against the doppies of world rugby but it doesnt work against the aussies and NZ.

      Sarge - 2011-08-23 11:10

      @Lefty, By no means do I want Heyneke to be our next coach! I just think that the lets defend and maybe we "win" WeePee type of rugby isn't our best way forward. The only real change I want at the moment is to get rid of Dick Muir, he is the most unimaginative back-line coach in history!!!

      FJ2 - 2011-08-23 15:13

      Think Coetzee will be great, as long as he picks as his assistants better than PdV did (which was, methinks, his second biggest mistake - the first being that he stayed in the comfort zone of the Jake White style of play and never got the Boks to play his own brand of rugby). Rassie wouldn't want to coach anyway - he likes working behind the screens, doing match- and player analysis. But let's not start speculating on the new coach already - let's support the current team and coaching staff for the moment. They need it. Desperately!

  • Brian Smith - 2011-08-23 08:53

    You must be joking he is not an ANC cadre!!!!

      steam_engine - 2011-08-23 09:05

      Who said he is??

      grant9 - 2011-08-23 09:28

      @Steam engine. You missed the point of Brian's comment which was that nowdays only an ANC appointed cadre gets the job.

  • - 2011-08-23 08:58

    Yep! This guy just goes on and on. Every ex-bok coach must think Jake is the biggest box of all time.

  • Stompies - 2011-08-23 08:58

    And what have Allister Coetzee (and Rassie) achieved in rugby terms! NO CUPS!!

      WeZo - 2011-08-23 09:34

      Coetzee was one of the coaches for the 2007 World Cup winning team. do some research or just look at a team photo! maybe it was all him instead of White anyways

      Stompies - 2011-08-23 09:51

      Yea, and so was the ball boy!

      Hendrik - 2011-08-23 14:47

      Idiot, what about rassie? he turned the Freestate into a formidable force again by winning two currie cups! Clearly youre a chop

  • Franklyn - 2011-08-23 08:59

    Seems like everyone involved in SArugby during whatever period has an axe to grind,I agree though....Coetzee should get it,thats unless Div wins the whole shebang...then he should get an extension,actually Heyneke Meyer really deserves it...but Rassie Erasmus has the best innovations FOR SURE,our captain is too damn fat........hell pass another beer

      kosie - 2011-08-23 12:52

      no mate, even if we win, pdv must get axed,they did it to white, and afterthis world cup most are retiring, and pdv did not procure for the future, next year it will be a whole new fresh springbok team with almost no experience, what will div do then....

  • Chief Kok - 2011-08-23 08:59

    Than the boks will remain cupless like weepee.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-23 09:02

      Or the AB,s no William Webb Ellis trophy for 24 years and counting

      jk - 2011-08-23 09:13

      kokkie- that comment gonna come back and bite you in your caramel arse...

      Kerr - 2011-08-23 09:23

      Let us review world cup histories Chief. Boks: 4 world cups participated : 2 Wins - 50% record. AB's: 6 world cups participated: 1 win - 16% record. Seriously, your arguments hold no water. Stop being an idiot.

      René Müller - 2011-08-23 09:32

      Chief Kok, I'm all for opinions (even if some of them suck), but please explain how are the BOKS 'cupless' since the Webb Ellis Trophy is safely on display in the R of SA?? Your hatred for the Bokke is clearly dimming your thoughts and brightness!!!

      The Oracle - 2011-08-23 11:14

      Why don't you eat some "Chief-Kok"

      bullincapeto - 2011-08-23 11:58

      Ko(c)k, how about my theory.I think you are the splitting image of Kevin Mealamu, and that is why you identify with a culture different to your own.Or your mom was a staunch Bokke supporter and she liked cheap white wine, however she continued to watch the Bokke and drink whilst pregnant with you, and thus you blame the bokke for your fetal alcohol syndrome

      Lance - 2011-08-23 13:31

      Aaaii, Kok. I cant believe that you even shun what I assume is the provinical team from where you come (WP ?). So sad indeed. Shop around, there might be a therapist prepared to take up the challenge..

      Mike - 2011-08-23 14:01

      Chief Cock, you are "clueless'' and we are not "cup-less". People with your level of rugby knowledge should be banned from blogs such as this. Try "Google" before you open your mouth next time and make such idiotic statements

  • Major Fan - 2011-08-23 09:00

    Thanks Jake, that is all SARU needed was your blessing!!! Please go away now... Brumbies need your help, not the Springboks!! WANKER

  • Mojojo - 2011-08-23 09:01

    The reason P Divvy got the Job over AC the last time was because he was openly an ANC supporter. If they needed a non white coach, Allister was the best candidate based on colour and Merrit. However, the move was not just an AA one, but also a political one, therefore the ANC spokes person was selected. We are now bearing the brunt of that $h!t decision. Good luck to the Boks anyway. Whoever the next coaches are, they will be better than our current coaching team.

  • Sarge - 2011-08-23 09:03

    Naka for Bok Coach!!!!! Just hide your wives and girlfriends though!!!!

  • Scottish - 2011-08-23 09:04

    Lol... what did P Divvy ever do to this guy? I mean its pretty clear now, Jake has beef with the guy. And all u guys are gonna keep rambling about 2007, Jake White, RWC... Well its P Divvy's turn now and Jake is still bitter bou that. what a tool..

  • Tumi Motlatla - 2011-08-23 09:16

    Jake White is a clown!!!!

      RandomDude - 2011-08-24 05:46

      Maybe we should get another clown to be our next coach then since the last one won us a WC

  • MikeMack - 2011-08-23 09:18

    Jake White who do you think you are these days? Do you honestly believe what you say goes all the time? you had your time, you left. Let us be and stop thinking you know whats going on all the time!

  • Hardus Steyn - 2011-08-23 09:18

    Don't get me wrong! I really like Jake - but it seems he has something to say about everything in SA Rugby nowadays..... if you have an opinion about absolutely everything - some people tend to stop taking you seriously.... Maybe it's the reporters that writes this - but it seems jake is becoming a "Moan-Gat"

  • Totman - 2011-08-23 09:20

    Once again. The man is running a website. It is not about baking cakes etc. It is about rugby. In other words he will address rugby issues and somewhere his view point will come up regarding the next coach. He need to discuss topics like that to entertain his readers. What is wrong with that. Your [the dis-grunted commentators] problem lies within yourselves. Sport24 convey his point, that he made to his readers, to their readers. This enable them to have enough news to present to you, the reader. If you than feel unhappy about JW's point, counter it. Not the man. He is not walking around and phoning media people to publish his point because he wants to be heard. He wrote it on his website for his readers. Sport24 knows some of you will do the "gutter drill" and therefore do not mind to publish his view on this site. The more clicks you do the better reader rating to ensure advertisement. Plain simple business. If you do not want to hear from JW you must address it to Sport24. It is them who reveals what JW said on his own website.

      FJ2 - 2011-08-23 15:24

      You may tell it a 1 000 times and most people on this forum will not hear you. People will believe what they want to believe - even all that urban rumours about how it was actually the players who coached the 2007 RWC winning side, or that we only won because of Eddie Jones, or because the AB's couldn't take the pressure (that one is probably true). Fact is, White won the cup, being the head coach who made the right choices regarding players and assistants and despite being stabbed in the back all the way by a few arrogant journalists and politically-minded officials on the Saru board, as well as being shat on by the know-it-all, always-negative SA rugby public.

  • Kevin - 2011-08-23 09:22

    Why is it necessary to have a person of colour take up the mantle....????Politics in rugby has led to the current debacle !!!! Do we honestly not have better coaches in SA???

  • bretton.eveleigh - 2011-08-23 09:25

    I think political pressure will mean PDiv will get another 4 years to torture us! SARU execs will not have a say, final decision will be made by Minister of Sport!

  • Alex Ander Pfoss - 2011-08-23 09:29

    if Jake white has to "SHUT UP" like most of you say, then maybe you guys must shut up. Its his opinion and last time i checked what you comment is your opinion.

  • Klopps - 2011-08-23 09:33

    Hey, Jake, Reality check. You are the EX coach. Move along now....

      Oukoos - 2011-08-23 22:00

      Ag f@k wat 'n joke!!! Dan kies hy die hele useless WP span sodat die Springbokke ook vir 11 jaar niks kan wen nie man!!!

  • Khoisan X - 2011-08-23 09:34

    I hate rugby and the springbok emblem with a passion BUT, I wish that the team does very well at the world cup to silence negative ppl like Jake White. I'm just sick to the gutt with this guy's destructive streak...yes comment but also LEAD you pupol

      LeDuke - 2011-08-23 20:43

      why do you hate the springbok emblem? has nothing to do with race but all to do with the grace of the springbok relating to rugby!!!!!!!! you just mean you hate whites therefore racist. Oh i forgot people like you cant be called racist ehat a laugh!!!

  • bullincapeto - 2011-08-23 09:34

    Hi Bulldozer, I have a theory for you with regards to Chief Kok. The good Chiefs mom was actually a huge Bok fan, in fact she was such a fan that she liked a little tipple whilst watching them play.Unfortunately she continued to tipple whilst pregnant with Kok. He now blames the Bokke for his fetal alcohol syndrome.

  • Durasmart - 2011-08-23 09:42

    If he rates him so high, then why did he have to get in Eddie Jones to coach the backline just before the 2007 WC. That was supposed to be Allister Coetzee's job and it took White 3 years to see that he wasn't good enough and had to get Eddie in or finish nowhere in the WC.

  • Frederik - 2011-08-23 09:47

    Another reason why not to support the boks

  • Zullie - 2011-08-23 09:48

    Hey, the guys are pulling out all the guns today. Has anybody thought that comments from Jake White are here for us to read BECAUSE A JOURNALIST CONTACTED HIM AND ASKED HIM FOR HIS OPINION!!!!! Coetzee seems the logical choice and he will have also learnt a great deal from Rassie. Would you then appoint Coetzee as the new coach and then ask Rassie to be his technical advisor????? I think that the Bok brainstrust ( if there are any?) should look beyond SA and find an overseas coach - Mitchell / Plumtree / Jones? We must all remember that after to up-coming RWC, there is going to be a major cleansweep - why not make a good job of it straight away. Heyneke Meyer should come into the equation somewhere too?

      Totman - 2011-08-23 10:47

      No-one phoned him. The writer of this got it from his website where he is publishing his thoughts for HIS readers. He did not even do the effort of phoning him. It is the same if I start criticizing Naas's remarks, on this side, when he wrote it in context, on HIS OWN site, with what he and his readers were discussing. Totally disgusting how some people can rip parts from other sites, without the context, and make it news on this site, just because they can't do there own research and journalism. Even worst is that readers on this site do not pick it up or just like to do the bashing thing. I am not a JW follower, and neither am I stupid [] , but some on this site can't definitely not say the are not the 2nd.

  • oomjan - 2011-08-23 09:53

    Jake, please keep quiet. You are tarnishing your image.

  • Johann - 2011-08-23 09:54

    Give that man a BELL'S!!!!

  • denlyn - 2011-08-23 09:55

    Come on Jake. You did a good job when you were here. Now build a bridge and get over it. Move on and enjoy your career in Aus. Dont try continue running SA Rugby from there.

  • elspeth.hassall - 2011-08-23 09:57

    Jake were the coach when we won the last WC....we all acknowledged and praised you for chose to now ...move on and "shut up" ! We have a new coach (not that I really think much of him), a lot of new players so just let them get on with it...we can do without your "pearls of wisdom".....grrrrr

  • Wouter - 2011-08-23 10:04

    Uhmm. Jake. No. When Coetzee coached the Springbok backline they were nowhere, useless. Untill Eddie Jones stepped in to save the day. He coaches the Stormers/Western Province. S14 Final 2010 - Lost (humiliated), Currie Cup Final 2010 - Lost (humiliated again by the Sharks) and S15 Semifinal 2011 - Lost. I do, in all honesty not think much of him as a coach. My opinion is that he rides on the raw talent of the rugby superstars in his squad (Schalk B, Jean d V, Jaque F, Bryan H etc) His coaching has very little to do with the degree of success achieved by these teams. I have much greater respect for a coach like Johan Lerm at SWD for what he managed to achieve last year with a semi bancrupt union, despite political interference with a herd of players who were not even certain that they would get paid. My 5c worth.

  • haveyoursay - 2011-08-23 10:14

    Who cares what White says about the coaching job in SA? I think he is given far more airtime than he deseves.

  • vaughn.l.jacobs - 2011-08-23 10:16

    Hey look, who-ever, what-ever.......the only positive of this suggestion is: at least it's a rugby coach that's being suggested, not a jester.

  • Raka13 - 2011-08-23 10:24

    I don't care what anyone says but Jake White is a brilliant coach, technical probably the best there is. The amount of trash this guy had to endure and still won the WC is more than any coach in the history of rugby has ever achieved. Jake White, Ewen Mckenzie, Robbie Deans, Heyneke Meyer, Nick Mallet and Allister Coetzee are for me the best coaches currently in World Rugby(don't know european coaches that well). Why does so many people hate Jake White's opinions, maybe because he is right - again?

  • colin - 2011-08-23 10:28

    Assablif Jake hou nou net jou BEK - what an irritation.

  • Davearch - 2011-08-23 10:36

    What on earth will they then do with PDIV ??? No decent rugby outfit on the planet will employ him ... ha ha, send him to the BULLS !!!

  • Hotti - 2011-08-23 10:38

    Brother Jake, vat jou goed en trek! Get over yourself! Who asked your opinion. Alastair cannot even coach WP and stormers team to a title... Take him with you to the Brumbies.

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  • AirAction - 2011-08-23 10:43

    Keep it up Jake, at least you can understand his comments. Not like Div ,havent a clue what he is trying to say when he speaks.

  • caleb69 - 2011-08-23 10:59

    No Jake!!, from bad to worse.... We all know that WP's trophy closet is empty thanks to Coetzee. So maybe you want that cos you are an Aussie now.

  • Andrew - 2011-08-23 11:01

    Don't get pissed off with Jake. As we all are, so too is Jake entitled to an opinion and is free to put it on his web page. The problem here is that S24 is scratching for stories and keeps taking material from his website. Jake is not forcing his opinion on anyone, you are free to read his website or not. S24 should get some fresh sources.

      Totman - 2011-08-23 11:27

      THANK YOU!!! At last some-one agrees. His comment on his site and criticize him there. Not falling for a 2nd hand article to keep one busy pushing up the readers total. Different sites, different context. Why don't Sport24 phone him and ask for his comments on rugby issues that are running strong on THIS site? Seeing they like to "pirate reporting" Let me think of a Afrikaans friend of mine that went to Teasers. Not being there myself before, I ask him how it was and he told me guys was hiring girls to do table dances in front of them. I ask him if he did the same. His reply: Nee, ek het maar net "geroof kyk" by die ander tafels.

  • jase880 - 2011-08-23 11:06

    The only thing that worries me is that WP only started doing well once Rassie went down there. Is he not the brains behind their comeback or is it Alistar? Was Alistar the coach there when they weren't doing so well? I don't know - just putting it out as a question.

  • Chekmate - 2011-08-23 11:06

    Jake, Please concentrate on ur future u had ur time with Boks and it's gone what happens in the future is none of ur business. Div our coach even after world cup. Phambili Div Phambili!

  • andre - 2011-08-23 11:08

    God forbid as then we will see an all Western Province Springbok team then. We need an unbiased person like John Mitchell(and who is a top professional).

      wombles - 2011-08-23 13:39

      haha dude we already have a team consisting of only sharks and bulls the 1 lot can't tackle the othe lot can't pass the ball the best players on the field last weekend province boys with exception brussouw and steyn

  • Farouk - 2011-08-23 11:11

    jake, jake, jake - shut the f***k up

  • Bennie - 2011-08-23 11:20

    Leave John Mitchell out of this. He is happy with the Lions.

  • joep - 2011-08-23 11:28

    All coaches do now is just talking, because theyre now the "Boss", get fat salaries and guess who's doing the real job? Those in the job now is just lucky they could still plough with another man's heifer. Talking political issues, we must just hope that Malema is not given the job.

  • Hitch - 2011-08-23 11:37

    What short memories everyone has! Jake was our first coach ever that treated the Springboks as a business. His analysis was always spot on and he had no ego issues about bringing in the right people to assist. Compare the conditioning and ball handling skills from now to 4 years ago, no comparison! If you don't want Jake's opinion then don't read it but I personally would feel a lot more confident with him and his management team still at the helm.

  • Kenpachi - 2011-08-23 11:38

    This dude is like a guy who took his girlfriend for granted, lost her and now he regrets it.

  • craig.levey - 2011-08-23 11:39

    36% of readers think that SA will win the RWC. That will make PdV the most successful SA coach of all time (RWC, Lions, Tri-Nations). I guess he may not be going anywhere if that happens.... 70% think we'll get to the semi-finals. So most people have a lot of faith in Pdv and his coaching staff!

  • roboman1 - 2011-08-23 11:51

    Well, I am glad to see by the thumbs up/thumbs down that SA still has a majority of intelligent people left here. Jake is writing his opinions on his own site, it's his right, and never forget he has been there and done it. NEWS24 are using it after trolling his website, so to BIN LADEN etc, get some substance man, get some credibility, show some intellect and informed analysis. You do not have to agree with Jake White, but do not shoot him down for having an opinion, you have one, and we enjoy the debate with you, even if we disagree with you.