Jones offers Boks sage advice

2011-09-21 12:15

Cape Town - With the RWC in full swing, there have not been a lot of unexpected results to date, barring Australia's defeat to Ireland.

The Wallabies, who were expected to beat Ireland, fell hopelessly short, although it was not entirely a surprise that the Irish walked away triumphant.

As a result, permutations are abounding, as the minnows prepare to have their last say in the tournament before exiting.

The potential quarter-final between defending champions, the Springboks, and the Wallabies, who slipped down to third in the world rankings following their defeat, has everyone's attention, including Eddie Jones', who has played a coaching role for both teams at prior World Cup's.

“If South Africa face Australia in the quarters, they need a really tactical approach, they need to practice it, and then stick to it. Australia have played some exceptional rugby under (Robbie) Deans, but they've played the same way every game.

"When you play against them, you have to know what you're going to do and how you're going to do it,” Jones wrote on rugby blog website, RugbyXV.

Jones went onto highlight that the Achilles heel of the Wallabies has emerged once more, with their scrum coming under tremendous pressure and buckling against the Irish, an aspect of the game the Boks are all too familiar with when exposing their Tri-Nations rivals.

“If the Boks want to attack the Australian scrum that causes a whole new issue. If they want to go that route, they'll have to pick their strongest scrummaging front row, and that includes starting Bismarck du Plessis. Jannie du Plessis and Beast Mtawarira should start either side of him if they want to go that route.”

Jones went on to criticise Springbok coach Peter de Villiers for his handling of Bismarck du Plessis.

“By not starting Bismarck against Namibia on Thursday, they've essentially wasted an opportunity to improve the side before the Samoa game and the quarter-final. You look at games like this from the point of view of how you could develop your team.

"It is unlikely Chiliboy Ralepelle is going to play in the big games, so it's a waste to put him on the bench. You should pick the core of your team, and think of ways of developing the team.

"There are no points for keeping the entire team happy.”

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  • Johnny-BB - 2011-09-21 12:21

    Agree Eddie, ....PDV will again choose John Smit at hooker, instead of Bismark du Plessis (worlds best hooker)... ...that is why the Proteas will lose against the Aussies... ......Proteas out in quarter final... ........Go All Blacks..!!!

      slick rick - 2011-09-21 12:25

      Jonny-BB. Proteas are in your garden (if you have one). The South African Rugby Team is called The Springboks. And its not Quarter Final time yet.

      kingkong - 2011-09-21 12:35

      He is picking smith hopping he gets injured and then his problem will go away. perhaps its been planed like that

      ty_47 - 2011-09-21 12:53

      Nice comment you mullet! You calling the Boks the Proteas displays your rugby knowledge or lack thereof!

      Smacker - 2011-09-21 12:54

      If we wear green the aussies will crumble- wait-we do wear green.Forget it- the bloody Aussies couldn't beat ireland- wish you could be as optimisitc about the Boks as you are about the no # side in world rugby.

      Balhaar - 2011-09-21 12:58

      @Hendrik Your mentality is LOW. You AGENT.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-21 13:56

      @Hendrik, @MaanDonkie, @Dok, @JackTurner, ... ........its seems the truth hurts...???? .............he he he he he ..!!!!

      springbokke - 2011-09-21 13:57

      Springbokke.. thats a completely different ballgame. [ex. the punt.]

      Chief Kok - 2011-09-21 14:12

      I don't agree with you on Bismark being the world's best hooker. All he does is running around like a headless chicken. Does that make him the best?

      The J - 2011-09-21 15:07

      Oh you know. Kok we want to avoid and ignore your absolute stupidity, but for some reason you keep coming up with your braindead, useless statements. "Bismarck running around like a headless chicken, does that make him the best?" mate. I'm glad you support the All Blacks (I'm sure they are saddened though) because to have a f.cking idiot like you supporting the same team as I do is just bloody tragic. As for your equally stupid alter ego Johnny-BB.... You guys should get a room so that you could find some solid work for your mouths...

      Dave - 2011-09-21 15:40

      Johnny-BB Wish you would emigrate and vist the NZ sites. To say you sound like a stuck record is unfair on the musicians on the record. At least with a record there is music no matter how repetitive. You are just trolling.

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      Byron - 2011-09-21 16:40

      And so the Kiwi's, like the flightless bird will fall again.

      RandomDude - 2011-09-21 18:04

      @Chief Kok , he's widely regarded as the best . Having said that I think S Brits ( plays for Saracens ) is better than Bismarck as a general all round rugby player. He's currently the best all round rugby player in the world IMO . Pitty most in SA don't get to see him play .

      RandomDude - 2011-09-21 18:11 , and this is not a one-off.. he plays like that all the time .

      RandomDude - 2011-09-21 18:24 , watch him in this clip, this is all in ONE match ( 2010 Premiership final ) .

      soetdoring - 2011-09-21 19:04

      Yes, they are our Springboks, but I still say this jersey is an abomination and untill the Bokkie is back in its rightfull place, I will not recognize this jumper as a Springbok jersey.

      mozzer - 2011-09-22 01:00

      @ Chief Kok Sean Fitzpatrick and a host of expert commentators with no South African bias have said on numerous occasions that he is the best hooker in the world you fool. I'm trying to fugure out if you live on the Cape Flats or are some South African loser that emigrated to New Zealand because they didn't have the qualifications to move anywhere decent. Either way, isn't it time you mowed someones lawn for money?

      mozzer - 2011-09-22 01:06

      People..... replying to Johnny BB makes his day everytime. He loves to annoy. Please remember if you saw him in the street you might flick R1 his way. Yes he may have learned to use the internet but that doesn't mean we have to engage him. DON"T GIVE HIM THE SATISFACTION. IGNORE HIM AND MAYBE HE WILL SMOKE ONE TOO MANY TIC PIPES AND DISAPEAR.

  • Joe - 2011-09-21 12:24

    I completely agree with Eddie Jones..... This chap knows what he is talking about. Such a pity he isnt a consultant for the boks........ Eddie & Naas Botha - two great rugby minds

      cj - 2011-09-21 12:55

      Whaaaat ? Naas " on de udder hand, but more importantly, whatever we say, its the 80 minutes in the game that counts" Botha ?

      BrainPWR - 2011-09-21 13:41

      @cj - To be fair he is not wrong about the 80mins.

      Aitsa - 2011-09-21 15:49

      Eddie is a fool and therefore coaches Jap club rugby.

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-21 16:26

      Eddie is spot on, and thats why he has a world cup winners medal! Go Bokke.....!!!!

      First48 - 2011-09-21 18:29

      Eddie Jones does know his stuff but does not have a clue what is really happening within the Springbok squad and the reasoning behind the coaches thinking.

  • Neutedop - 2011-09-21 12:36

    Knowing people who scrummed against both - all of them agree that John Smit is probally the best scrumager on the planet....leaving you without wind after every scrum. And you can see that when they change hookers - we struggle more with Bismark. But agree on all the rest.

      Werner - 2011-09-21 15:17

      You are talking about John in his prime. Unfortunately not the same player anymore. The only one without any wind is John - look at him standing around the edges huffing and puffing.

  • StBad - 2011-09-21 12:38

    oooohhh... punch to the stomach, the Bismark/Smit issue again!

  • Garth - 2011-09-21 12:52

    Never agreed with an Aussie before but Eddie Bismark has a problem throwing into the line-out. This will then give the Aussies the upper-hand in this part of the game where they did not have a chance if Smit or Chiliboy played. Scums usually are a 50/50 call by the ref where-as lineouts always go the other way.

  • LekkerinSA - 2011-09-21 12:52

    I am getting a little tired of all the banter. Let the bokke do their thing on the field. To analyse and second guess so much before every game is pointless. Win or lose the Bokke are a truly great team and they carry the hopes of 50 million South Africans with them. 97 - 0 Namibia on Thursday. 46 - 10 Samoa, 30, 15 Oz 15, 12 AB and then probably 42 - 14 Finals. We will bring this trophy back and break those New Zealand hearts.

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-21 16:31

      The IRB said that if we beat Aus in the 1/4 and NZ in the SEMI, the Final will be cancelled due to lack of proper opposition and we can keep the trophy.........

  • thatmanvan - 2011-09-21 13:15

    When the springboks win their third RWC can we have the springbok emblem back on the left chest of the jersy instead of the protea ?

      Jaco de Clerck - 2011-09-21 13:20

      Hear hear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      LionsFan - 2011-09-21 13:56

      Give that man a bells

      Nino - 2011-09-21 14:24

      Well said...jah and give that man BB a Papsak.

  • Hanjo - 2011-09-21 13:16

    my humble opinion, (as great a rugby mind as Eddie Jones may be) John Smit is the better option at set piece time(scrums and line-outs) the reason John can slot in at Prop(even if he isn't very good at it) is because he's a very good scrummaging hooker. Bismarck is a brilliant player, and his strengths lie in his loose play, his carrying, defence and fetching ability.

  • thatmanvan - 2011-09-21 13:18

    When the springboks win their third RWC can we have the springbok emblem back on the left side of the cest area (over the heart) of the springbok jersy ?

      Jaco de Clerck - 2011-09-21 13:23

      I SECOND THAT MOTION !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jaco de Clerck - 2011-09-21 13:18

    The Aussies scrum illegally and it is evident in this world cup. They were penelized for it in the match against Ireland. We all know it for years. It is just a pity that they are concentrating on it now. How many times have we seen them get away with murder in the scrums where the opposition gets penalized and the Aussies stand there smurking like a bloody cheshire cat? Nice to know that Karma is a &*@$

  • BluffO - 2011-09-21 13:47

    Eddie can grumble all he wants, we are keeping our strongest players uninjured for the bigger games. eddie would love to see our top players taken out by injury in minnow games like Namibia. Wait boet die bok gat julle a bok naai gee.

      Neo - 2011-09-21 16:58

      @Bluffo. Agreed... Bismarck is in top form and we do not need to put him on against the minnows. I think Div has got it right this time.

  • namibia24 - 2011-09-21 13:55

    Ek gaan more - oggend opstaan en n’ “brotchen” vreet met Springbok Steak, dan gaan ek n’ Springbok potjie begin en ek gaan hom eers braai en dan vol chillies gooi (hy moet brand!!! soos die hel) ek kook dat die spoeg spat terwyl ek Springbok biltong eet met lekker mooirivier botter, (Sprinkbok biltong kan soms bietjie droog wees). Dan gaan ek kyk hoe die WELWITCHIAS die Springbokke ook braai en VREET!!! op die veld, Die Springbokke moenie dink dit gaan “sommer so, sommer so” wees nie. Die bloed gaan loop in die jagvelde van Namibia.

      Hendrik - 2011-09-21 14:08

      HAHA! like the spirit nam24! would sure like to try the biltong with the mooirivier botter!

      The J - 2011-09-21 15:34

      Good on ye Nam. Some of the things you said I don't understand, but it seems funny enough and you seem like a proud supporter of your team. I hope you guys get one or two tries just for all that effort you're putting in. Matter of fact you've just made me f.cking hungry mate...

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-22 09:20

      Namibia24....all that must be a fat mo/fo!!! hahaha Boks will bring up the 100 and then declare. Then we will take back Walvis bay!! Enjoy!

  • FJ2 - 2011-09-21 13:58

    What was interesting to me: Heynecke Meyer and Allistair Coetzee commented on Superrugby about the way the Irish held the Aussies up in the loose, thus forcing them to maul and not to ruck and at the same time getting their hands on the ball, preventing it to come out and forcing the turn-over scrum that way. They also pointed out that, by slowing down Aussie ball, Cooper was shown up tactically. Interesting.

  • Bootman - 2011-09-21 14:07

    I've always respected Eddie Jones and believed that it was he who won the WC for us in 2007 but now he is talking rubbish. Why on earth would you risk Bismarck against Namibia? If anybody needs gametime it's Chili. He says thats it's unlikely Chili would play in the big games.......well it's not. John or Bissie could pick an injury at anytime and that would bring Chili right into the picture. I wouldnt want to go into a big match with an (excuse the pun) undercoocked Chili. Another thing....Bismarck should just shut up about his dissatisfaction about being on the bench. He must just fullfill the role that the coach has set out for him. - 2011-09-21 21:06

      well said said,,,,,,

  • Gregs - 2011-09-21 14:17

    Eddie is expressing his opinion and that is his right,especially as a knowledgable rugby man, but I do not totally agree with him.It is important that all players in the squad get an opportunity to play in the RWC,not only to keep them happy ("There are no points for keeping the entire team happy.”),but also to get all players match fit.You never know when you may suffer injuries at a crucial time in the tournament and then you need your back up guys to come in and be match fit and ready.Regarding the "happy"comment, just this past Monday on Super Rugby,both Breyten and Ashwin spoke of how important it is that all players in the squad are made to feel part of the whole effort by playing them as one unhapy person in the squad can upset the entire apple cart.

  • Rugganut - 2011-09-21 14:50

    “If South Africa face Australia in the quarters, they need a really tactical approach, they need to practice it, and then stick to it. Australia have played some exceptional rugby under (Robbie) Deans, but they've played the same way every game. "When you play against them, you have to know what you're going to do and how you're going to do it,” Jones wrote on rugby blog website" Wow and the writer considers this 'sage' advice...come on, even I have thought of that and I have never coached in my life!!! Gee...Thanks we have definitely avoided a defeat

  • 44mag - 2011-09-21 15:53


  • janajonker - 2011-09-21 21:06

    best hooker in the world-choke on this chief.

  • CITIZEN - 2011-09-21 21:13


  • Bluemuel - 2011-09-21 21:19

    Welcome to South Africa, land of the Springboks, home of the Webb Ellis.

  • nzbro - 2011-09-21 22:26

    jones and white shouting from the stands regularly and making their thoughts public just screams " pick me please " as a consultant. "I can help...really I can" get a life you 2. you had your chance.

  • Llen - 2011-09-22 08:13

    Can anyone comment on why Mrs Smit has to have 2 replacements in Bismark AND Chilly?

  • Crystal88 - 2011-09-22 08:17

    Unlike up to now, I just have this belief the Springboks will be up to the challenge against whichever side they may be facing. This positive belief was sparked by SA scoring that 2nd try v. Wales when it really mattered, despatching Fiji with ease and the type of rugby they were playing (The Aussie analysts put this rout of the Fijians down to a Fijian under-performance, something I don't believe. The Fijians were simply beaten at their own game by imaginative play from guys like Francois Steyn, Danie Rossouw and Brussow, amongst others). If the Springboks match the physical Samoans and win this won comfortably, I foresee an even more heightened momentum from the Boks. Hierrie Bokke ken hulle bolletjie. Watch die boytjies, hulle is eit op 'n moerse ding! They've certainly won me over! Best of luck SA!

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