Boks 'will cope' without Juan

2011-08-19 07:32

Soweto - Former Irish international John Robbie said on Thursday that South Africa were in the fortunate position to have many loose forwards who could take over from the injured Juan Smith.

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This comes after Springbok management confirmed that the Free State captain would not be part of their World Cup plans after he had withdrawn himself because of an Achilles injury.

"If you are going to lose a top player, for South Africa the backrow is probably the best place because they just seem to have backrow players coming out of the woodwork," said Robbie.

"There are guys playing in the Currie Cup that can play at international level and I don't quite no why South Africa produces so many back-row players."

Smith was one of the key players in the Springbok squads that won the 2007 World Cup and secured a series victory over the British and Irish Lions in 2009.

Robbie admitted to being a bit baffled that the backrower had managed to keep a relatively low profile despite his brilliance.

"Juan is a wonderful player, there's no question about it," Robbie said.

"He's one of the unsung heroes because he's sort of a quiet guy and therefore doesn't always make the headlines."


  • The Oracle - 2011-08-19 07:39

    Indeed and we will Cope even better without Helium, Mr. Muir and Gary Gold. The time has come for them to step down gracefully or to be unceremoniously fired. check out Zapiro's latest cartoon it says it best they have cheapened our jersey!!! Jake come back please!!!

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-19 08:10

      (That is not under discussion here. If you knew your facts, you would know that if PDV has the luck at the RWC that Jake had, he will have a better record than Jake.) Juan Smith, Brussow and Schalk are the top 3 loosies in the country. The others lack the skills and commitment required to be in that class, and Juan's loss is huge, no matter what John Robbie and Bobby say.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-19 08:31

      Agree Oracle...!! (AA/BEE) PDV = Paloooka... ....Gold = palooooka .. ..Muir = paloooka....

  • Preshan - 2011-08-19 08:01

    start with Dysel at 7)use Big Alberts as impact player of the bench.

      Justin - 2011-08-19 08:07

      I agree with you. or either swap them around and have Alberts starting. Dysel is great and coming into his own... I think he is a great prospect should schalk not heal 100 % and Brussouw not perform as well as we would like.

  • Anneleen - 2011-08-19 08:12

    ...good luck Bokke...and Juan...Bokke all the way!!!!!

      Anneleen - 2011-08-19 09:03

      @Drewka...thanks for your this morning in the "Cape Times" the octopus predictor at uShaka Marine World picked the Boks for a win...i and gold all the way! What do you think about the Sharks vs Leopards game?

      Drewka - 2011-08-19 09:40

      Well, the Sharks should not underestimate the Leopards, but think they will take 5 points. It was quite a shock to see Botes taking over the captaincy. Your thoughts on that?

      Anneleen - 2011-08-19 10:07

      @Drewka...that was quite surprising to read, indeed. I just wonder if it is only going to be for tonight's game or will the captaincy be shared amongst Botes and Daniel? What is Plumtree's plan? Do you think it is because of Keegan's wear and tear, or is there more to it? I just read a few comments on ruggaworld regarding this move...

      Drewka - 2011-08-19 10:45

      @Anneleen, I think the sharks is looking for someone to captain after Stephan & John retire from rugby in total, so my thoughts would be that they have 2 or 3 players in mind, but they have to test the grounds first.

      Anneleen - 2011-08-19 10:58

      @Drewka...thanks for your answer...after Stephan and John, who would you like to see as the Sharks-captain?

      Drewka - 2011-08-19 12:43

      I personaly would go with Botes, but Daniel showed he can do the job too.

      Anneleen - 2011-08-19 12:56

      @Drewka...thanks for the answer...hope you will enjoy the match tonight!

  • Drewka - 2011-08-19 08:24

    Behind the Boks 100%. Wish we knew who's going to the RWC. I think we have enough depth in the forwards, but the backline is working factor. Hope Adi Jacobs would go as replacement for either Jaque or JDV. He players fantastic rugby but can't understand why Plum always plays him of the bench. Gio & de Jongh have shown that they are not up to the task yet.

      Justin - 2011-08-19 08:26

      Im thinking Hougaard might make a good center. Just a thought

      Anneleen - 2011-08-19 08:32

      @Drewka...great for the 100% support for the Boks!!!

      Drewka - 2011-08-19 08:38

      @Justin, don't know if they should play him out of position. He is a potent scrumhalf, and a great player but I think in a world cup we need a specialist in midfield. @Anneleen wearing my green & gold today. Do you thing we going to make it tomorrow?

      Coach18 - 2011-08-19 11:04

      Cant believe that you giving AD Jacobs a nob for the boks, he is absolutely hopeless and cant play rugga to save his life, i would rather go for someone like dejong, if paired corectly he can be the play maker we are looking for, he has to play inside tho, he is too small for outside. @ justin you say hougaard at center at this stage i am willing to put him anywhere in the backs he is the type of player that CAN play anywhere he has strength speed agility and a great hair style but most of all he is not afraid in the slightest and will take on the biggest oak on the field and bring him down with force, i would replace him with habana who has been found wanting on defense! i rate him better as a outside back then a half back! great thought chap!

      Justin - 2011-08-19 12:07

      @ Coach 18 - I would put Hougaard in in place of De Villiers & Mvovu in for Habanna. if either fail dismally, we have de villiers who can come in off the bench to work on wing or center.

  • Chief Kok - 2011-08-19 08:29

    Not even Chuck Norris can help the boks.

      Drewka - 2011-08-19 08:42

      Ag come on Kok, please show some respect to the Boks. I think that the green & gold could counter the AB's tomorrow. It's going to be a close game. Bokke by 5 or 7.

      Chief Kok - 2011-08-19 09:04

      If you are really the deserving world champs, you should win this one easy. - Most test experience - Home ground advantage - All Blacks B team Easy one for the boks, but I also know the capabilities of the ABs.

      Drewka - 2011-08-19 10:38

      There's no such thing as an All Black "B" side. One thing that Henry did well is to give all his WC players enough gametime before the tournament. If the Bokke does the basics right, defend well and 1 or 2 phases of induvidual brillians, we could win. The key would be to do that in NZ, and even that is not imposible.

      Gustav - 2011-08-19 10:40

      Kok since when is SBW , Israel Dagg, Ali Wiliams , Hosea Gear, Jimmy Cowan B team? Only Carter and Mccaw and Read thats really missing

  • Fedup - 2011-08-19 08:34

    Go Bokke ..... Have NZ really put in their B team to play us?? Or is that false news again?

      Tools1 - 2011-08-19 08:40

      NZ are the only team in the world to make 13 changes and actualy field a better side. They are resting a couple of first choice players but then again a couple of players back from injury whom are actualy first choice and then players on the fringe of forcing themselves in the starting line up.

      Tools1 - 2011-08-19 08:48

      Watched the Famous French AB 1999WC Match ( a repeat ) last night and was just reminded how any game can be turned upside down by pressure, individual briliance or devine intervension. The All blacks are the Best team in the world... between world cups, and thats a fact.

  • sean - 2011-08-19 08:41

    If we have such a glut of great loosies , how come we generally only win 40% of the ball , esp when Brossouw plays .Juan is a massive MASSIVE blow........Still hope he gets fit and gets a late call up for the WC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • piet4545 - 2011-08-19 08:48

    Yes we have dept he's postion, but Juan has been our most concistent player since last wc, he will be missed! To gain anything or momentum from now on the boks needs a statement more then just a narrow win. We have to put 20 points over the all blacks "2nd team" Thats almost our best team for the WC (but i'll swap Habana for Houghaard). They've played a game together last weekend, no more rustyness no more excusses, just get on with the business! Go Boks!!!

  • theysay - 2011-08-19 09:10

    Juan jy is 'n gentleman en die hele land dankbaar wees dat jy jou land voor geld plaas. Wonder of daar nie n paar van die "ou manne" (sien Zapiro) wat dit ook moes doen. Die tyd sal leer.

  • PnutGallery - 2011-08-19 09:25

    Sure the Boks can cope without Juan, but can they win without him. He is one of those players that gives 120 % each time he plays and leads by example on and off the field

  • Wolf Muller - 2011-08-19 09:28

    "No", "know", "there", "their" - please learn the difference. And no, I'm not being a grammar Nazi, when you write for a publication you need to do it right.

      flowing river - 2011-08-19 10:04

      Wit Wolve perhaps?

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  • Justin - 2011-08-19 10:03

    I will keep on saying they must play Schalk Burger in Juan's place, Brussow on openside flank, and Pierre Spies on 8th man for his mobility. What we lack in Spies's defense will be made up for with both Schalk and Brussow being there.

  • rex.aspeling - 2011-08-19 10:47

    This does not Make any Sense. He was running up and down the Umhlanga Promenade this week end. He looked very fit!!! How is this possible ?? I smell PDV rat!

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-19 11:14

      Jaun withdrew himself. If you smell PDV, then go brush your teeth. You are seeing things where there are none. Cheers

  • Robinson Caruso - 2011-08-19 11:18

    Firstly, this test on Saturday means almost nothing to the all-bleks, thats why they are fielding a B team. Makes perfect sense especially when you have already won the tournament. OUR B team we sent to Aus and NZ also made sense, but for different reasons, AND PDV almost guaranteed we would be nowhere in this year's Tri-nations. I think he KNEW NZ will win, and he hoped we would get results against Aus...and his gamble backfired. BUT at least some new guys got a run and we know how they are. as for mr Howziteskie;s comment: there is NO WAY a coach wins rugby world cup by luck, dude, get real. BUT to bring back JAKE now would be a huge step backwards...we need Talent, new, fresh talent that can cope with the game, and SA politics, and we need it from players and coaches. We need to look at how NZ does things so professionally even better than England does...and learn from that. Its about selection, developing players, consistency in policy, and developing a GAME plan or a style thats flexible, solid in defence and fast on attack. Right now we have...maybe 50% of what we need. On current performance we will be lucky to beat France, Wales and England at WC 2011.

  • Ryno - 2011-08-19 11:42

    Ons gaan Juan mis. Almal weet nou hy gaan nie meer saam nie maak nou daai nommer 7 triu joune Wilhelm.Dit is tyd vir die ander flanke om inplek te kom Alberts is n moet vir die begin span.Los maar vir ou Danie by die huis as hy teen die tyd nog nie kon leer om n bal te vang en te hou in die kontak nie sal hy dit nooit kan doen nie. Ons soek manne wat die voordeel lyn kan oorsteek en bal terug speel vir die volgende fase.Wat nog gese dat hulle die ander span se bal moet afneem ook. Kom nou Bokke ons soek n grote die naweek. Julle skuld ons.Ten minste n paar driee.

  • Babs Visser - 2011-08-19 12:54

    Truth of the matter is that they are NOT COPING at all (Juan or no Juan) they already lost 3 games and whether Juan play tomorrow or not will make no difference you dont win or lose a game because of one player!

      FJ2 - 2011-08-19 13:03

      He's a massive influence. Read wat the AB's coach say about him. Also, he's the best blindside defender in the world - scrummies don't take chances there when he's playing, like Genia did in Aussie.

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