Boks wary of Samoa - Burger

2011-08-26 07:30

Cape Town - Springbok flank Schalk Burger says they will do their homework thoroughly before their group-stage clash with Samoa at the World Cup in New Zealand.

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Burger believes the Samoans will be a much tougher nut to crack than when the teams clashed at the previous tournament in France in 2007.

The Boks won that game 59-7, with wing Bryan Habana scoring four tries.

But that was four years ago, and this time round South Africa will face a team fresh from an upset win over Australia six weeks ago.

Samoa stunned the Wallabies 32-23 in Sydney in July.

Burger says while they are currently focused on their first game against Wales (on Sept 11), they will take due note of the threat the islanders could pose.

"They showed against the Aussies that they don't fear other teams anymore. We're not yet focusing on that game, but we will be dumb if we don't do our homework accurately on how to beat them," Burger told the Beeld newspaper.

Only one player in Samoa's group of 30, Ofisa Treviranus, plays his rugby in Samoa. The rest mainly play in France and England, which means they will be a fit and well conditioned group - who should by no means be underestimated.


  • cocopops - 2011-08-26 07:42

    Forget Wales, Fiji and Samoa pose a bigger threat to the Springboks chances of advancing to the knock out stages, there will be plenty of support for them as the two islands are quite close to NZ. Remember in 2007 that game against Fiji, heart stopping stuff, and that was in Europe.

      Ferraro - 2011-08-26 08:36

      I disagree, you need to focus on every game. No second chances in the world cup!

      BlouBos - 2011-08-26 09:21

      Tends to agree with Fiji and Samoa. They play a very physical game. Some of these guys muscular looks are very intimidating. They look like man-eater barbarians that will chew you up for breakfast? Who is Schalk Burger now again?

      StaalBurgher - 2011-08-26 09:45

      Schalk Burger is the man that should be fathering children on all the women in SA; Genghis-Khan-like...

      Chief Kok - 2011-08-26 09:51

      Boks should focus on Namibia.

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-26 10:14

      NZ should focus on the Boks.

      buckaroo - 2011-08-26 11:53

      Very apt name... ChiefKok

      BlouBos - 2011-08-26 14:36

      Guys guys, where is your sense for humor. The Schalk Burger thing was a joke!!!!!

      milswanka - 2011-08-26 18:38

      No one is going to stop the green machine this year....mark my words

  • Rugby Fan - 2011-08-26 07:42

    Good, every game should be treated as a final. Don't underestimate you opponent regardless of who they my be. KOM DIE BOK

  • BardofAvon - 2011-08-26 07:48

    Never give a sucker an even break.

  • ButBoy - 2011-08-26 07:50

    According to Plumbtree, if they come from france they won't be well conditioned, so run them off their feet!!

      Coach18 - 2011-08-26 08:36

      What a but boy comment! you play as if there was no tomorrow, coz face it for alot of these boks there is no tomorrow!

      nzbro - 2011-08-27 01:10

      Err so does that include frans steyn? & perhaps explain his form?

  • MB1810 - 2011-08-26 07:56

    I'd worry about Wales first though, they are our first game and the highest ranked opponents in our pool, get past them first and then be concerned over Samoa.

      sean - 2011-08-26 08:13

      Spot on, forget about Samoa and concerntrate on Wales.

      Tools1 - 2011-08-26 08:56

      If you took the time to read the full article... "while we are first focused on our first game against Wales..." He was obviously asked by some reporter what he felt the threat that Samoa poses and gave his answer..

  • - 2011-08-26 08:18

    Good to see Burger and Louw get the nod. Spies was by far the best loosie for the Bulls, he desreves his spot. Stegman and Potgieter both had a terrible Super 15's and Stegman no presence when he played for the Boks this year.

      Marx - 2011-08-26 09:22

      You almost seem like you need to convince yourself that they are the right choices. Potgieter and Stegmann are both injured, but you don't seem to know that and you keep hammering on Stegmann like a worn out Vinyl. Stegmann and Brüssow are the no.1 fetchers in this country. Spies had a terrible season, his last couple of games was better, to say he was by far the better loosie for the Bulls is the most ridicilous thing I 've heared on these forums!!!! - 2011-08-26 10:13

      Give me a break, are you telling me Stegman is a better fetcher than Louw, If you think that you know jack all about rugby , Stegman would never have come near the Bok squad fit or not. He had his chance in Aus and Nz and he was terrible and please dont give stats about how many rucks he attended , because he achieved nothing at those rucks. Louw is there because his better than Stegman end of story. Go look at the stat's at then end of the Super 15 Louw stole or Pilfered more balls than Stegman. He made more tackles than Stegman and they conceded the same amount of penlaties. So take off those Blue glasses buddy cause they blinding you.

      Marx - 2011-08-26 13:08

      Stegmann and Potgieter played a Major part in how many titles the Bulls won the last souple of years?? CC, Super Rugby Titles ring any bells, no it wouldn't, cause you Cupless lot only watch your wiepie games then you think you know something. You know how to support a losing cause, that's for certain. What was that semi score margin again on your home ground, we actually win when we get into the semi's!!

      ockert.niekerk - 2011-08-26 13:34

      @marx..1st their is a huge difference between running crash balls for 80 min and playing rugby. 2de You had to mention last couple of years cause they where sh#t this year. 3rd im not even a WP supporter and even I know they have had the best defence/ruck conversion rate of all the SA teams the last two years. So go drink your brandy and beat your nabour or something.

      Marx - 2011-08-26 14:31

      Ockert, you are so clever with your crashball talk, shame, firstly, I know my rugby and I know the facts. I happen to think Flo is a very good rugby player, but I DO THINK that Steggies has a lot more experience in pressure situations and has achieved more with his Bulls team mates than the rest of you still dream of, a lot of trophies to prove that fact. Secondly. I don't insult people like you're trying to label me a some sort of Brandy drinking hooligan, in fact I DON'T like Brandy and hardly drink. If you don't have a decent point to make don't reply to my comments in future please, I like to talk rugby.

      Marx - 2011-08-26 14:54

      Vallem, how can Stegmann never have come near a Bok squad if he played for the Boks already?? Another one of your silly comments, you are indeed the genius of rugby and a lot agree with your drivel. You are one of those who love to use stats to boost the players you prefer, and against the players you hate, another fact. I am humbled by your superior knowledge(not!!)

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-26 08:39

    The Fiji and Samoa games are going to be brutal encounters - my worry (as always when playing these teams in World Cups) 1) Injuries 2)Discipline - cards, hearings, bannings etc and then 3) The support the 'islanders' enjoy all over the world - in NZ it's worse - "home games" for those chaps, which motivates them incredibly. 4) The real belief amongst the Pacific teams that they can beat the big teams. I am dreading both of these games.......and we can FORGET about playing a "B" team (with Fiji certain players can be rested because Fiji's set pieces are still dodgy) but Samoa.....eish. One almost HAS to slow their ball down, so Brussow 'should' play, but I wouldn't play him - LOUW must start cos Brussow is injury prone. Worrying..... Samoa also have (IMHO) the finest scrum half in the world. Oh dear rugby gods my nerves are finished. Time for a drink?

      Lance - 2011-08-26 09:19

      .....two teams that have the same passion as the AB's and share some genetics...eish !

      BlueSperm - 2011-08-26 09:51

      That internet predator and low life scumbag know to all of us as daspoort, cliffb, cliffbradley has stolen my Brannas profile. Is that the only satisfaction you can get out of life tosser

      nzbro - 2011-08-26 10:18

      agree with you 100% SAFFA-CAT. Ive been saying this all the time on this forum about these teams.They have become formidable over the past 4 yrs and will give the boks or any team a run for their money. Pdvvy will have to use his best players to fend them off.For most pacific islanders NZ is just like another home so they have an advantage again just like Oz.I'll be watching their games with keen interest.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-26 10:19

      @Brannas - ek dink nie Cliffie het al ander se profiles ge-hijack nie. Twyfel of dit hy is. Is dit nie dalk die ou wat dit laas gedoen het met al ons profiles?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-26 10:35

      @nzbro - do you agree with me that Kahn Fo'tuali'i (my spelling?) is a special special special player. I am not sure why NZ didn't try and 'adopt' him as a national? IMHO - he covers a position I consider to be one of the AB's possible stumbling blocks. Why the Saders let him go is beyond me as well?

      BlueSperm - 2011-08-26 10:37

      Ek weet nie, maar ek dink dit is cliffie, ek het n' comment gemaak oor die bok span en Spies( Just to pee you off) en toe het daspoort begin comment en die laaste Brannas een was nie van my af nie, Ek sien Ou Koos se profile is ook gehijack, it does take the fun out of . As jy kyk na daspoort ake cliffbradley se comments en die wat "Brannas en Ou Koos" nou maak, dan sal jy die ooreenkoms sien.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-26 10:43

      @Brannas - ek weet wie Oukoos se profile ge-hijack het :) Dit is my goeie vriend Paul.....van Canada. (Effel) - want sy "style" is maklik om te ID. Sekere woorde soos PK, foetale alkohol sindroom ens, haal hy nog die hele tyd op in al sy profiles, so hy is definitiek die fake Oukoos. Ek het nog nie 'n fake "brannas" profile gesien - was 2 dae omtrent glad nie op die forum nie. Dan is dit dalk Paul weer :) Hello @Paul - hoop alles gaan goed in Canada.

      nzbro - 2011-08-26 10:58

      SAFFA-CAT yes I agree with you on Kahn Fotuali’i is a special player. I was very impressed with his game during the S15 for the crusaders. Im a crusaders fan too even though I live on the NZ north island .I would have liked to see more of him on the field as a starting player .As an opposition player he would be dangerous .For your info he was born in auckland NZ Kahn Fotuali'i Personal information Date of birth 22 May 1982 (age 29) Place of birth Auckland, New Zealand Height 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) Weight 96 kg (15 st 2 lb) Rugby union career Playing career Position Halfback, Fly Half Amateur clubs Stoke Provincial/State sides 2004 - 2009 2010 Tasman Hawke's Bay 38 Super Rugby Years Club / team Caps (points) 2008 - 2011 Crusaders 28 (33) correct as of 11 April 2010. National team(s) Years Club / team Caps (points) 2010 Samoa

      BlueSperm - 2011-08-26 11:11

      Die laaste 2 dae sal jy sien Brannas is pro stormers en anti bulls en spies, en ek kan jou verseker dit is nie Brannas daardie. Kyk die Moller article.

      BlueSperm - 2011-08-26 11:14

      Derrick Kuun article also. Fake Brannas

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-26 13:23

      @Brannas - ek het gelees, dit is nie Cliffie nie - dit kan ek jou amper guarantee. But to be honest, hahahahha, reading those comments, it is pretty obvious it isn't you making them. In the same way my 'fake profile's' comments about Duane and the Stormers/WP were very obviously not coming from me.

      Oukoos - 2011-08-26 14:07

      I wrote to the editor of News24 (Estrelita.Moses) about the profile hijacking and recommended steps that can be taken to contain it. Hopefully it will be implemented soon. BlueSperm, I fully agree with you, It is a fun-spoiler and an irretation.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-26 14:30

      @Oukoos - ek het dit ook met hulle opgehaal toe my profile gesteel is. Dit is dieselfde ou - ek waarborg jou dit.

      BlouBos - 2011-08-26 14:38

      Tends to agree with Fiji and Samoa. They play a very physical and brutal game. Some of these guys muscular looks are very intimidating. They look like man-eater barbarians that will chew you up for breakfast?

  • Bandleader - 2011-08-26 09:55

    Prepare for all the games as if they are finals. Glad to see Schalk's positive attitude "how to beat them". We took Fiji too lightly in 2007, and nearly lost that game; it seems we've learnt to respect the island nations since then? The islanders have only ever progressed to the quarters at RWC, so they see an opportunity to advance to the semi's with the strength they now have. Injuries are a worry in physical encounters, but our squad selection has taken that into account.

  • draaft - 2011-08-26 10:22

    We will crush Fiji. Our defensive structures will annihilate them. We will beat Wales, they've never been good in the Southern Hemisphere. We will crush Nam, they just don't have the fire power and will be greatly intimidated to face the World Champs. The only worry is Samoa, we have always stuggled to get good offence flowing against them, and of all the teams in our pool they have most striking power to score against us. Schalk has this spot on.

  • Carl Muller - 2011-08-26 10:34

    Bokke, go out there and beat them convincingly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bulls and Bokke forever... PS: Schalkie, jou doring.....

  • GTFO - 2011-08-26 10:47

    lets atleast get through to the next round a defeat to Fiji is okish aslong as we win the rest..

  • Andre - 2011-08-26 10:52

    NZ Should focus on France

  • Raka13 - 2011-08-26 11:48

    I don't want to go into all the log analysis, but can someone explain what should happen in the nock out stages for the Springboks and All Blacks to be in the final?

      Jashfx - 2011-08-26 13:01

      If either the Boks or NZ finish 2nd in Pool while the other finishes top, then its possible for us to meet in the final. So if France can do their normal world cup spoils over NZ and we top then we could meet them in the final (assuming we get passed Ireland in 1/4ers and then France in Semis). Or if we finish 2nd, and NZ top, then we could meet them in Final (assuming we get passed Aus in 1/4ers and then either Eng/France in Semi).

      Ross - 2011-08-26 13:28

      If both SA and NZ finish top of their logs we will meet in the semi final. ANything else then we meet them in the final

      Jashfx - 2011-08-26 14:16

      @ Ross -- Not Quite anything else. If we both finish 2nd then we also meet in the Semi-Final. One of us has to top and the other has to finish 2nd for there to be a chance of us meeting in the final. (As stated in my above post).

  • Craig - 2011-08-26 11:57

    Every game should played as if it was a final. There should be no half measures at all. take no chances and give it everything... each and every game... From now on EVERY day is a GREEN day. not just FRIDAYS and GAME days....

  • Joshua Austin - 2011-08-26 14:13

    The Bokke should petition for a bigger bench for the game. We are gonna need a full pack of new forwards by the time the second half starts...

  • King Mark - 2011-08-26 16:25


  • slg - 2011-08-27 03:14

    They should be most weary about their coach, particularly his substitutions. He's the biggest threat to their chances.

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