Boks 'better than in 2007'

2011-08-31 07:30

Cape Town - Western Province coach Allister Coetzee believes the current crop of Springboks going to the Rugby World Cup are better equipped for the tournament than the team that won in 2007.

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Coetzee was former coach Jake White's assistant when South Africa won the World Cup in 2007, beating England 15-6 in the final in Paris.

Speaking to Die Burger newspaper, Coetzee said he feels the current team is a very good side, and people are too pessimistic when it comes to the national side.

"There are a lot of guys in that side that know how to play winning rugby, that know how to get to a final. And there are more than enough leaders.

"Back then (in 2007) we had to develop leaders, whom are now hardened players.

"As long as all of them play in New Zealand, we should do well," said Coetzee.

The Province mentor also believes the Boks won't be overawed by the prospect of facing the All Blacks on their home turf.

"Since 2008 (when Peter de Villiers took over as coach), South Africa has played 11 Tests against New Zealand and won five times. Two of those wins were in New Zealand," said an assured Coetzee.

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  • Bulldozer - 2011-08-31 07:43

    Australia and NZ as well.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-31 07:47

      More Bulldozer,ja nogal n nikseggende berig want almal,selfs Italie en Wallis het verbeter.Enige iets om te moraal te boost maar ek glo dat die Bokke n gelyke kans met die AB,s en Ausies het ,hang af watter kant die bal hop en wat die ref se siening van die reels is

      jk - 2011-08-31 08:08

      julle twee moet net begin positief raak.. julle local spannetjie benadeel julle denkwyse

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-31 08:12

      More AGENT, n mens kan sien n WP man het bygedra tot hierdie artikel. Net soos die WP supporters het hy niks konstruktiefs om te sê nie. Terloops, ons het n plumber nodig. Ek sien die drol (jk) het nie weggespoel nie.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-31 08:16

      Hy is n duikboot drol,sal elke keer op n ongelee tyd opdaag,soos die dag van sy geboorte tot nou Dokter het gese maak dood toe dag sy ma hy het gese maak groot.

      Mojojo - 2011-08-31 08:17

      For Once I agree with you. This Squad might be better than 2007's. However, Australia look awesome this year, and they were downright bad in 2007. Well, New Zealand will always just be Nea Zealand. Best in the world, but best at choking also. SA v Aus Final. Heart Says Bokke, mind says Aus.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-31 08:35

      @Lloyd - excuse me! I take offence. Retract your comment about WP fans lacking in the 'intellectual stakes" and I will call off the dogs of war......... Refuse to retract it, and I will start passing word that Juju's disciplinary hearing has been moved to Plattekloof........ @Alwyn - Hello, hoop dinge gaan goed in Warmbad. @jk - we are struggling with injuries now.......our senior team is basically an U/21 team, our U/21 team is an U/19/21 team, and our U/19 team will be pulling up U/18 players shortly.......we will prevail!

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-31 08:40

      Morning SAFFACAT,Everything is fine thanks for asking,niice warm day,looking forward to the Worldcup,and hope the Bokke wil bring the William Webb Ellis Trophy back home

      jk - 2011-08-31 08:42

      saffa- we had no choise but to select our craven week side for weeks now, and still we 2nd.. keep believing and province will do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      jk - 2011-08-31 08:44

      dozer- jys n lost case, maar daai skuim van n agent is daar nie moetie voor nie...

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-31 08:49

      jk ,papsak en tik in nie goed vir jou nie,wil jy soos jou pa opeindig?

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-31 08:51

      Let me rephraise: "Net soos sommige WP supporters het hy niks konstruktiefs om te sê nie". I truly apologize SAFFA, I was a little quick on the keybord.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-31 09:04

      @Alwyn - ek kan nie wag vir die toernooi om te begin. This waiting is terrible.....seriously. I will feel better as SOON as the 1st game is out of the way. That will settle my nerves a little:) @Lloyd - LOL.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-31 09:17

      @SAFFA,i will have to get one of those drifter jobbies if i want to view any of the games,but agree with you -100% support for the boks,Curriecup has to take the back seat for a while(Hope the Bulls improve with every game)All focus on the RWC

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-31 09:32

      @Alwyn - Now you know I am not the Bulls biggest fan :) BUT: I like the fact that they are playing so many youngsters. Arno Botha is unreal.....seriously. And I also quite like the look of Louis Fouche (not the finished product, but he seems to have something special) The BEST young player you chaps have coming up:the loosie, Mabuza, who played Craven week and in the SA schools team against the Frenchies - hy is ongelooflik) So while the Currie Cup doesn't 'worry me' that much this year, I am seriously enjoying the young talent being exposed at this level (by the Bulls and WP especially). It bodes helluva well for SA rugby in general - all we need now is someone to up their SKILL levels.......

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-31 14:36

      Alister (zero cups) Coetzee = paloooooka... .......Alister + WP = 10 year losers.... ....he he he he he he...!!!

  • Jeff - 2011-08-31 07:52

    As a Stormer/WP supporter, i always trusted Coetzee, and still do! For me he is one of the best coaches in SA. He said that this team is better than the 1 of 2007, on statistics. So now its up to the guys to go and proof it. And i know they can do it, we do have the potential. However, he did not say that the Boks will definitely win, just that the team is better. GO BOKKE!!!

      Lu_blake - 2011-08-31 08:01

      they won the in WC in 2007. Whats better than that?

      jk - 2011-08-31 08:11

      jeff- i totally agree.. keep faith in wp!!

      Zip23 - 2011-08-31 08:24

      prove it

      slg - 2011-08-31 08:36

      What has he won? National coaches should only be those who consistently win tournaments.

      jk - 2011-08-31 08:45

      zippie- get lost please...ok!

  • John Jameson - 2011-08-31 08:02

    When we won against the All Blacks in New Zealand it was because of the heroics of Ricky Januarie. He is now out of form and out of the team, so those statistics mean nothing. That being said, the Boks are better now than 4 years ago. Heck, they're better than they were 4 weeks ago.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-31 08:04

      or 4 days ago

      stefan.strydom87 - 2011-08-31 08:10

      Ricky didn't play in the 2009 win in New Zealand, did he?

      jk - 2011-08-31 08:13

      stefan- fatty was the hero of the day, where were you...?

      ApexPredator - 2011-08-31 08:16

      Ricky didn't play that game all by himself, he had 14 team mates who were on the field as well.

      PatPion - 2011-08-31 08:26

      @jk: No, Ricky played in the 2008 win in Dunedin, that's when he scored the try. In 2009 we only played one game in NZ and won.

      Anon - 2011-08-31 08:44

      @jk - Fatty was not the hero in 2009, Steyn was with a drop goal and it was in Hamilton. The game you idiots are referring to was in 2008.

      ockert.niekerk - 2011-08-31 10:26

      The retard(Ricky Januarie) does 1 thing right and gets remembered as a John,he cost us more games than a cared to keep count of...rather state that ricky was lucky once,a long time ago,thus the stats are irellevant

  • PDP - 2011-08-31 08:05

    You can have the best team in the world on paper, if you don't have a gameplanned you are stuffed.

  • Anneleen - 2011-08-31 08:07

    Thank you, coach Coetzee...go Bokke!!!!!

  • BardofAvon - 2011-08-31 08:11


  • elliot55 - 2011-08-31 08:11

    And the all blacks and wallabies are also way better than in 2007

      hendrik.pienaar - 2011-08-31 08:22

      All Blacks are better? In 2007 they basicly had 2 teams of equal strength. Now they're struggling to find a loosehead, loose-forwards & half-decent wingers. Don't overrate them too much. Australia on the other hand has improved a lot.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-31 08:38

      @Hendrik - I agree with you! The AB depth is not half as potent as what it was in 2007. As for the Wobblies, they have improved yes and they are well coached BUT: their depth-especially in the forwards-is going to be tested incredibly throughout the tournament.....I honestly think the Wobblies are going to struggle come knockout stages on the forward front.

  • Rugbug - 2011-08-31 08:21

    Let's face it, nobody can really claim to be the best team today, which is why this RWC is wide open and going to be so great to watch. I just hope Wellington doesn't cough up its worst weather for the local matches! Regardless, I'll be there absorbing this wonderful spectacle! The buzz in the "greatest little capital on earth" (Lonely Planet) is tangible! Bring it on, and may the best team in the tournament win!

  • Aribs - 2011-08-31 08:43

    Encouraging words from the next Bok coach....

  • patrickb - 2011-08-31 08:44

    Getting a bit tired of every expert and his mother's opinions. Time to shut up and deliver!

  • Aabels - 2011-08-31 08:46

    Bla bla bla!!!!!!!

  • Andre - 2011-08-31 08:53

    Well, Tools1,talking about empty stadiums, there are 200,000 worldcup tickets not sold.The only stadiums still full is normally Newlands. The way things are going i say rugby will become extinct in 20 years time if not sooner. Too much rugby might be the reason!!!!!

  • Irish Devil - 2011-08-31 08:54

    On paper the 2011 team is better than the 2007 one. The difference is that too many of the starting 15 are way out of form, awhich was not the case in 2007. Fourie du Preez was immense, Habana was leading try scorer, Matfield was probably player of 2007 WC, Smit was superb leading the team, Smith was also huge. Francois Steyn fitted right in after De Villers got injured, etc. etc. Only Matfield has shown any of that form of late and reality is we will need all guns firing to win WC.

  • Straightdeal - 2011-08-31 09:02

    Maybe Snorre should give Alex Ferguson of Man U a call to find out how you get your side in "attack" mode. Attack the best form of defence, f*ck this kick and chase crap. Then we will return with the cup.

  • Bill - 2011-08-31 09:39

    If the team play as they can there is NOBODY that can beat them. It has nothing to do with the coach! They are all seasoned proffessionals. GO BOKKE

  • Flinger - 2011-08-31 09:44

    Nope, didnt have to read further, this team is well equiped to see the qtr final, thats about it....A better team lost to Scotland last year!

      Watcher - 2011-08-31 10:22

      I think you, like many others, under estimate the difference that a player like Fourie du Preez makes. He has not been available for the Boks since the end of 2009. The man is in a class of his own when he is on form. You can actually see his game, and the Boks game, improving with each game he plays. The man has a rugby brain second to none! I think that our players will peak at the right time. My only concern is if Brussouw gets hurt if Francois Louw can do a similar job.

      FM150 - 2011-08-31 16:28

      @Watcher- FdP im afraid looked rusty in both games he played! After a 2year lay-off im shocked they didnt release him to play a couple of curry cup games aswell!?!?!?

  • Kuppy - 2011-08-31 11:06

    Yes they might have more experience but i don't think that they have enough juice in the tank to play tuff games week after week in a tournament like the world cup they are worn out and too old now and on top of it if and when players in key positions get injured thats when the wheels are going to come off in there group they have to play teams like Samoa and Fiji who play physical hard and dirty rugby. I just can't see them making it to the semis.

  • Ozman - 2011-08-31 14:09

    Aussie-Aussie-Aussie, Aussie - New Zealand Final

  • John Jewson - 2011-08-31 15:30

    Go bokke!!! Bring it home boys..

  • - 2011-08-31 16:12

    Thanks Allister for telling it like it is.

  • hehe - 2011-08-31 16:14

    nonsense!!..It is almost exactly the same team as 2007, however much slower and older and therefore definitely not better equipped! The leaders we have in the Bok team now which are from that 2007 team has been losing more than what they have won, so the only experience we have gained is....losing games!

  • Fasie - 2011-08-31 18:57

    How can they be better? With ancient Jean, Habana and incredibly stupid Schalk, and Mr 35kg Aplon??? What a bunch of jokers! Go Bulls

  • bhekie2k - 2011-09-01 12:48

    I hate to say this but I don't think the Bokke will win the cup. Call me a pessimist but winning the Webb Ellis Twice in a row when we only managed one win in the Tri-Nations?? We are green a gold and hoping for a miracle to bring it back. Go Bokke!!!!

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